| WagonMonster | 08-14-2006 12:10 PM |
Wanna win? Kiss a Finn! (and hope Loeb chokes on Lutefisk) : Neste Rally Finland!
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Maybe Petter can actually make it through shakedown this week! :banana:
IBWRXedUSASAYSIBLOEBWINSIT
IBWRXedUSASAYSIBLOEBWINSIT
| WRXedUSA | 08-14-2006 12:59 PM |
IBloebwinsit
[IMG]http://www.atodomotor.com/mundial/2004/mexico/imagenes/LoebMexico2003.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.atodomotor.com/mundial/2004/mexico/imagenes/LoebMexico2003.jpg[/IMG]
| XenoWolf | 08-14-2006 01:12 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA][color=#e3e3e3]Ibloebwinsit.[color]
[IMG]http://gfx.dagbladet.no/sport/2004/11/14/loeb.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:furious: :furious: :furious:
[IMG]http://gfx.dagbladet.no/sport/2004/11/14/loeb.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:furious: :furious: :furious:
| WRXedUSA | 08-14-2006 01:18 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]:furious: :furious: :furious:[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.netsport.ro/data/news/_WRC/hicons/Piloti/Franta/Sebastian-Loeb.jpg[/IMG]
"Quel gars, Xeno est-il trop lent ?"
[IMG]http://www.netsport.ro/data/news/_WRC/hicons/Piloti/Franta/Sebastian-Loeb.jpg[/IMG]
"Quel gars, Xeno est-il trop lent ?"
| Yotsuya | 08-14-2006 01:21 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]IBloebwinsit
[IMG]http://www.atodomotor.com/mundial/2004/mexico/imagenes/LoebMexico2003.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just think the picture's funny.
Well, no non-Scandanavian has won Finland other than Auriol and Sainz, so we'll see...
[IMG]http://www.atodomotor.com/mundial/2004/mexico/imagenes/LoebMexico2003.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just think the picture's funny.
Well, no non-Scandanavian has won Finland other than Auriol and Sainz, so we'll see...
| Osgood30 | 08-14-2006 02:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Yotsuya]
Well, no non-Scandanavian has won Finland other than Auriol and Sainz, so we'll see...[/QUOTE]
If you count Estonia as Scandinavia, but I suppose its close enough
Well, no non-Scandanavian has won Finland other than Auriol and Sainz, so we'll see...[/QUOTE]
If you count Estonia as Scandinavia, but I suppose its close enough
| XenoWolf | 08-15-2006 01:03 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA][IMG]http://www.netsport.ro/data/news/_WRC/hicons/Piloti/Franta/Sebastian-Loeb.jpg[/IMG]
"Quel gars, Xeno est-il trop lent ?"[/QUOTE]
I'll beat you eventually, you French goddess!
"Quel gars, Xeno est-il trop lent ?"[/QUOTE]
I'll beat you eventually, you French goddess!
| psg | 08-15-2006 01:17 AM |
Pray for snow?
IBLoebwinsit.
IBLoebwinsit.
| Weasel 555 | 08-15-2006 08:47 AM |
Gronholm will win ;)
swrt's finland preview: [url]http://www.swrt.com/news/viewarticle.html?id=1031[/url]
swrt's finland preview: [url]http://www.swrt.com/news/viewarticle.html?id=1031[/url]
| runnah | 08-15-2006 09:38 AM |
[QUOTE=SWRT]Smooth, wide, undulating gravel stages enable drivers to reach breath-taking speeds of more than 200kph, while the numerous �yumps�, the famous Finnish jumps that feature throughout the route, demand the ultimate in confidence and precision driving. Technically, the event is a difficult one. Jumps can launch a car 50 metres through the air and lead directly into blind crests and sixth gear corners. With average speeds of around 120kph, the event demands unwavering commitment and bravery.[/QUOTE]
I think Loeb will get beat by the Scandinavians! (I hope)
I think Loeb will get beat by the Scandinavians! (I hope)
| Yotsuya | 08-15-2006 06:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Osgood30]If you count Estonia as Scandinavia, but I suppose its close enough[/QUOTE]
After a little thought, I did.
After a little thought, I did.
| FaastLegacy | 08-16-2006 01:24 AM |
My money is on Gronholm, I think Gardemeister and Hirvonen are going to surprise some people too.
| spdracr00 | 08-16-2006 01:23 PM |
Man, just finished up day 3 of germany and all i can say is "damn". Why is he soo good? is it the car? do you think he'd do as well in a different car? the guy is just nuts.
| datageek | 08-16-2006 04:03 PM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]My money is on Gronholm, I think Gardemeister and Hirvonen are going to surprise some people too.[/QUOTE]
Gardemeister isn't entered in Finland: [url]http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2006-07-21T17-05-20175.pdf[/url]
Gardemeister isn't entered in Finland: [url]http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2006-07-21T17-05-20175.pdf[/url]
| WRXedUSA | 08-16-2006 04:42 PM |
[QUOTE=datageek]Gardemeister isn't entered in Finland: [url]http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2006-07-21T17-05-20175.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]
but! Daniel Carlsson is!
but! Daniel Carlsson is!
| XenoWolf | 08-17-2006 12:40 AM |
Gigi is too, woohoo! Except apparently he's going to walk...
| ralliharri | 08-17-2006 07:19 AM |
[QUOTE=spdracr00]Man, just finished up day 3 of germany and all i can say is "damn". Why is he soo good? is it the car? do you think he'd do as well in a different car? the guy is just nuts.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not! He's good but he also has good luck and the best car. Just look at Gardemeister, he does his, what, 2nd or 3rd WRC and beats Gr�nholm on some stages in Germany in a Cittro. Though I think Ford should've kept Toni in Ford instead of Mikko but rumor has it Mikko brought some sponsor money with him to Ford and Toni couldnt bring any. Make no mistake, I like both my countrymen but think Toni is the better and mature driver right now and yeah, I know Fords official version was they wanted one world champion caliber driver and one young driver.
Absolutely not! He's good but he also has good luck and the best car. Just look at Gardemeister, he does his, what, 2nd or 3rd WRC and beats Gr�nholm on some stages in Germany in a Cittro. Though I think Ford should've kept Toni in Ford instead of Mikko but rumor has it Mikko brought some sponsor money with him to Ford and Toni couldnt bring any. Make no mistake, I like both my countrymen but think Toni is the better and mature driver right now and yeah, I know Fords official version was they wanted one world champion caliber driver and one young driver.
| Italiano | 08-17-2006 07:32 AM |
sigh ....
swrt > ur killin me :(
swrt > ur killin me :(
| Weasel 555 | 08-17-2006 07:44 AM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]Gigi is too, woohoo! Except apparently he's going to walk...[/QUOTE]
:lol:
i hope not since he's got a pug 307 to use :p
and SWRT Shakedown news:
The Subaru World Rally Team has completed a trouble-free Rally Finland shakedown, with Petter Solberg completing a total of three runs through the 3.76km stage and Chris Atkinson seven. Chris recorded the second fastest time with 2mins 04.8secs, while Petter was third quickest. :)
:lol:
i hope not since he's got a pug 307 to use :p
and SWRT Shakedown news:
The Subaru World Rally Team has completed a trouble-free Rally Finland shakedown, with Petter Solberg completing a total of three runs through the 3.76km stage and Chris Atkinson seven. Chris recorded the second fastest time with 2mins 04.8secs, while Petter was third quickest. :)
| Weasel 555 | 08-17-2006 10:01 AM |
Also the "Flying Frog" :lol: was fastest in shakedown
| ralliharri | 08-17-2006 03:18 PM |
[QUOTE=Weasel 555]Also the "Flying Frog" :lol: was fastest in shakedown[/QUOTE]
As he was in stage 1....
As he was in stage 1....
| Weasel 555 | 08-17-2006 03:33 PM |
Petter was 2/10 ths slower in 2nd :)
| WRXedUSA | 08-17-2006 04:11 PM |
Solberg is using the car that they rebuilt in Germany. It's on it's 3rd engine in a weeks time.
Should be interesting.................or not.
Should be interesting.................or not.
| psg | 08-18-2006 01:29 AM |
Eight stages today--144.39 km of competitive roads. It's looking like SWRT is going to be in the hunt this weekend, barring another grenaded engine, gearbox failure, kangaroo, rogue spectator car, poor Pirelli compound, or rock on the final stage.
Gotta think positive! :lol:
Gotta think positive! :lol:
| Jay911 | 08-18-2006 02:14 AM |
Listening to WRC+ now and waiting for the action to start. Sucks that they split up Ouninpohja a couple years ago after Petter averaged 130+ thru there.
| ralliharri | 08-18-2006 05:51 AM |
Gr�nholm winning all the stages so far (4 before lunch) with Hirvonen 2nd o/a, Petter in third.
| ralliharri | 08-18-2006 07:47 AM |
Incredible tight after SS5, 8th through 14th is LESS THAN TEN seconds!!!!
| Weasel 555 | 08-18-2006 08:18 AM |
Day 1 : Results as of SS4:
1. Gronholm - Ford - 23'00"1
2. Hirvonen - Ford - 23'11"8
3. P.Solberg - Subaru - 23'14"1 :D
4. Loeb - Citroen - 23'16"7
5. Atkinson - Subaru - 23'27"2 :)
6. Carlsson - Mitsubishi - 23'56"6
7. H.Solberg - Peugeot 307 - 23'56"7
8. Galli - Peugeot 307 - 23'56"7
9. Sohlberg - Subaru - 23'58"8
10. Valimaki - Mitsubishi - 23'59"7
talk about close !
1. Gronholm - Ford - 23'00"1
2. Hirvonen - Ford - 23'11"8
3. P.Solberg - Subaru - 23'14"1 :D
4. Loeb - Citroen - 23'16"7
5. Atkinson - Subaru - 23'27"2 :)
6. Carlsson - Mitsubishi - 23'56"6
7. H.Solberg - Peugeot 307 - 23'56"7
8. Galli - Peugeot 307 - 23'56"7
9. Sohlberg - Subaru - 23'58"8
10. Valimaki - Mitsubishi - 23'59"7
talk about close !
| WRXedUSA | 08-18-2006 09:30 AM |
oddly, it appears that Solberg is adhering to his strategy after SS6.
Does anyone know what car Mads Ostberg is driving? Hanninen?
Does anyone know what car Mads Ostberg is driving? Hanninen?
| sb427f-car | 08-18-2006 09:39 AM |
[QUOTE=Jay911]Listening to WRC+ now and waiting for the action to start. Sucks that they split up Ouninpohja a couple years ago after Petter averaged 130+ thru there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, how do you get signed up for WRC+? I've been all over that site and trying to figure out how to get a membership and still haven't figured out where I need to click...
Is there any other place to get rally coverage online other than [url]www.wrc.com[/url] and [url]www.swrt.com[/url] ?
Yeah, how do you get signed up for WRC+? I've been all over that site and trying to figure out how to get a membership and still haven't figured out where I need to click...
Is there any other place to get rally coverage online other than [url]www.wrc.com[/url] and [url]www.swrt.com[/url] ?
| bjorn240 | 08-18-2006 09:45 AM |
Mads is driving a Subaru WRC (S9, I think). Juha Hanninen is driving a Mitsubishi Lancer WRC.
| Jay911 | 08-18-2006 10:32 AM |
[QUOTE=sb427f-car]Yeah, how do you get signed up for WRC+? I've been all over that site and trying to figure out how to get a membership and still haven't figured out where I need to click...
Is there any other place to get rally coverage online other than [url="http://www.wrc.com"]www.wrc.com[/url] and [url="http://www.swrt.com"]www.swrt.com[/url] ?[/QUOTE]
There's a link on the left side once you try to get into the WRC+ area if you're not registered. Try this: [url]http://www.wrc.com/page/BuyWRCPlus/0,,10111,00.html[/url]
You might try [url]http://www.rally-live.com[/url] but that's apparently not too stupendous. Besides listening to Rally Radio on WRC+ (Rally Radio is free nowadays, btw, I think, i.e. not part of WRC+), I end up downloading the Eurosport coverage as torrents, etc.
Is there any other place to get rally coverage online other than [url="http://www.wrc.com"]www.wrc.com[/url] and [url="http://www.swrt.com"]www.swrt.com[/url] ?[/QUOTE]
There's a link on the left side once you try to get into the WRC+ area if you're not registered. Try this: [url]http://www.wrc.com/page/BuyWRCPlus/0,,10111,00.html[/url]
You might try [url]http://www.rally-live.com[/url] but that's apparently not too stupendous. Besides listening to Rally Radio on WRC+ (Rally Radio is free nowadays, btw, I think, i.e. not part of WRC+), I end up downloading the Eurosport coverage as torrents, etc.
| runnah | 08-18-2006 10:36 AM |
At this point I just want Gronholm to hold off Loeb. Gronholm is the only who can keep this championship interesting.
Petter getting a podium finish would be nice also, but finishing the rally would be good too. :D
Petter getting a podium finish would be nice also, but finishing the rally would be good too. :D
| WRXedUSA | 08-18-2006 10:48 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Mads is driving a Subaru WRC (S9, I think). Juha Hanninen is driving a Mitsubishi Lancer WRC.[/QUOTE]
Tack.
I thought that I heard that Hanninen was in a WRC. Confirmed!
Tack.
I thought that I heard that Hanninen was in a WRC. Confirmed!
| Weasel 555 | 08-18-2006 10:51 AM |
Some serious duelling going on between the drivers for positions
Day 1 Results overall as of SS7:
1. Gronholm - Ford - 1h05'12"6
2. Loeb - Citroen - 1h05'29"8
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 1h05'42"6
4. P.Solberg - Subaru - 1h05'53"8
5. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 1h06'55"4
6. Atkinson - Subaru - 1h07'13"5
7.Sordo - Citroen - 1h07'44"3
8.Carlsson - Mitsu - 1h07'45"7
9.Galli - Pug 307 - 1h07'45"7
10.Valimaki - Mitsu - 1h08'02"3
looks like Petter has a nice barrier with his brother and Chris right behind
hopefully he can take advantage of the Gronholm/Loeb duel
Day 1 Results overall as of SS7:
1. Gronholm - Ford - 1h05'12"6
2. Loeb - Citroen - 1h05'29"8
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 1h05'42"6
4. P.Solberg - Subaru - 1h05'53"8
5. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 1h06'55"4
6. Atkinson - Subaru - 1h07'13"5
7.Sordo - Citroen - 1h07'44"3
8.Carlsson - Mitsu - 1h07'45"7
9.Galli - Pug 307 - 1h07'45"7
10.Valimaki - Mitsu - 1h08'02"3
looks like Petter has a nice barrier with his brother and Chris right behind
hopefully he can take advantage of the Gronholm/Loeb duel
| runnah | 08-18-2006 01:37 PM |
Sigh, Loeb just won SS8.
| bjorn240 | 08-18-2006 01:51 PM |
But Gronholm takes SS9. (By 0.1 seconds.)
| Yotsuya | 08-18-2006 03:02 PM |
If anyone speaks Finnish... [URL=http://www.yle.fi/radiosuomi/radiosuomi.asx]http://www.yle.fi/radiosuomi/radiosuomi.asx[/URL]
| LastResort | 08-18-2006 03:33 PM |
I'm just hoping for a Podium finish by our man.
| psg | 08-19-2006 12:37 AM |
Atkinson with gearbox troubles on SS10, the opening stage of day 2. He's already been passed by both the Solbergs on stage.
| XenoWolf | 08-19-2006 01:24 AM |
[QUOTE=psg]Atkinson with gearbox troubles on SS10, the opening stage of day 2. He's already been passed by both the Solbergs on stage.[/QUOTE]
Looks like a DNF... :(
Solberg is closing in on Hirvonen. :banana:
Looks like a DNF... :(
Solberg is closing in on Hirvonen. :banana:
| psg | 08-19-2006 01:50 AM |
And Petter Solberg retires 700m into the first Ouninpohja stage, SS11. No injuries or something to that effect.
Atkinson only has 3rd gear, but is attempting to make it through the stages for mid-day service.
EDIT: OK, this is even more weird. Solberg is apparently "off the road" (e.g. crashed) 700 meters [B]BEFORE[/B] the start line for SS11. He's out for the day, if not the rest of the rally. Solberg and Mills are OK.
Atkinson only has 3rd gear, but is attempting to make it through the stages for mid-day service.
EDIT: OK, this is even more weird. Solberg is apparently "off the road" (e.g. crashed) 700 meters [B]BEFORE[/B] the start line for SS11. He's out for the day, if not the rest of the rally. Solberg and Mills are OK.
| Carisma | 08-19-2006 01:51 AM |
Man...you beat me to it! :lol:
| KingGalantVr4 | 08-19-2006 02:00 AM |
GO Gr�nholm!
| Berns | 08-19-2006 02:25 AM |
so Gronholm it is then... go Marcus!
Petter... we still believe you can win.
Petter... we still believe you can win.
| soldmyboxster | 08-19-2006 02:29 AM |
***SPOILER***
Loeb hit a rock on Ouninpohja and lost a pile of time to Gronholm. Looks like quite a few others have hit it, too.
Loeb hit a rock on Ouninpohja and lost a pile of time to Gronholm. Looks like quite a few others have hit it, too.
| ralliharri | 08-19-2006 06:16 AM |
Gr�nholm, Loeb, Hirvonen, H. Solberg and Galli are top5 in SS13, Urria, separated by only 5 1/2 seconds! Gr�nholm leads Loeb by 47 seconds, Mikko is 32 seconds behind Loeb, best Subie is Flodin in 13th place, and in 14th place, next best Subaru driver, Anton Alen, son of legend Markku!
| ralliharri | 08-19-2006 07:56 AM |
Alen best Suby driver in 10th now after Ouninpohja SS15, Flodin 11th and Atkinson 13th. Gr�nholm still leads Loeb by 49 seconds, Mikko 3rd. Hanaa p��lle Suomen pojat!!
| bjorn240 | 08-19-2006 08:27 AM |
Flodin and Alen is a battle for the ages in Gr. N.
| Weasel 555 | 08-19-2006 09:01 AM |
Day 2: Results Overall as of SS14:
1. Gronholm - Ford - 1h48'24"7 :D
2. Loeb - Citroen - 1h49'12"6
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 1h49'46"8
4. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 1h51'15"6
5. Galli - Pug 307 - 1h52'26"3
6. Tuohino - Citroen - 1h53'01"9
7. Valimaki - Mitsu - 1h53'08"5
8. Kopecky - Skoda - 1h55'26"2
9. Sordo - Citroen - 1h57'14"6
10. Wilson - Ford - 1h59'07"8
Noteable Retirements !
5 P.Solberg-Mills - Subaru Impreza Wrc - Went off road SS 11 :(
14 Pons-Del Barrio - Citroen Xsara Wrc - Went off road SS 11
15 Carlsson-Thorszelius - Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc - Mechanical problem after SS 9
1. Gronholm - Ford - 1h48'24"7 :D
2. Loeb - Citroen - 1h49'12"6
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 1h49'46"8
4. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 1h51'15"6
5. Galli - Pug 307 - 1h52'26"3
6. Tuohino - Citroen - 1h53'01"9
7. Valimaki - Mitsu - 1h53'08"5
8. Kopecky - Skoda - 1h55'26"2
9. Sordo - Citroen - 1h57'14"6
10. Wilson - Ford - 1h59'07"8
Noteable Retirements !
5 P.Solberg-Mills - Subaru Impreza Wrc - Went off road SS 11 :(
14 Pons-Del Barrio - Citroen Xsara Wrc - Went off road SS 11
15 Carlsson-Thorszelius - Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc - Mechanical problem after SS 9
| WRXedUSA | 08-19-2006 09:42 AM |
Subaru wins again!!!!!
not.
It's nice to see Valimaki up there. Nice rise from the GroupN ranks.
not.
It's nice to see Valimaki up there. Nice rise from the GroupN ranks.
| WRXedUSA | 08-19-2006 10:03 AM |
I can't even begin to count how many broken gearboxes SWRT has had in the past few years.
Atrocious.
Atrocious.
| Weasel 555 | 08-19-2006 11:12 AM |
Results Overall as of SS16:
1. Gronholm - Ford - 2h16'42"1
2. Loeb - Citroen - 2h17'45"4
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 2h18'19"6
4. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 2h20'15"6
5. Galli - Pug 307 - 2h21'22"1
6. Tuohino - Citroen - 2h22'07"7
7. Valimaki - Mitsu - 2h22'26"4
8. Kopecky - Skoda - 2h25'11"1
9. Stohl - Pug 307 - 2h29'03"4
10. Wilson - Ford - 2h29'32"7
11. Atkinson - Subaru - 2h35'12"5
from rally-live.com
After another service break, the drivers are back to compete in the longest stage of the race: Moksi-Leustu.
At 41-km, this stage is also one of the favourites of the drivers, with a great variety of challenges, including wide and narrow roads, interesting corners, jumps and very high speed sections.
Ford achieved another one-two result in SS16, Marcus Gronholm taking the stage victory followed by his teammate Mikko Hirvonen (+11.3).
Sebastien Loeb (+13.6) was close to the Ford drivers' rhythm but had to settle for third place. The Frenchman � who lies second overall � is now over a minute behind the leader.
Gigi Galli continued his good work with another solid performance. The Italian set the fourth quickest time, 5.8 seconds faster than Janne Tuohino in fifth position.
OMV Peugeot Norway drivers Henning Solberg and Manfred Stohl achieved the sixth and eighth fastest times respectively, only separated by Jussi Valimaki in seventh place. With this result, Stohl moves in front of Matthew Wilson in the race standings, taking ninth place away from the British driver.
Jan Kopecky and Jari-Matti Latvala completed the top ten.
1. Gronholm - Ford - 2h16'42"1
2. Loeb - Citroen - 2h17'45"4
3. Hirvonen - Ford - 2h18'19"6
4. H.Solberg - Pug 307 - 2h20'15"6
5. Galli - Pug 307 - 2h21'22"1
6. Tuohino - Citroen - 2h22'07"7
7. Valimaki - Mitsu - 2h22'26"4
8. Kopecky - Skoda - 2h25'11"1
9. Stohl - Pug 307 - 2h29'03"4
10. Wilson - Ford - 2h29'32"7
11. Atkinson - Subaru - 2h35'12"5
from rally-live.com
After another service break, the drivers are back to compete in the longest stage of the race: Moksi-Leustu.
At 41-km, this stage is also one of the favourites of the drivers, with a great variety of challenges, including wide and narrow roads, interesting corners, jumps and very high speed sections.
Ford achieved another one-two result in SS16, Marcus Gronholm taking the stage victory followed by his teammate Mikko Hirvonen (+11.3).
Sebastien Loeb (+13.6) was close to the Ford drivers' rhythm but had to settle for third place. The Frenchman � who lies second overall � is now over a minute behind the leader.
Gigi Galli continued his good work with another solid performance. The Italian set the fourth quickest time, 5.8 seconds faster than Janne Tuohino in fifth position.
OMV Peugeot Norway drivers Henning Solberg and Manfred Stohl achieved the sixth and eighth fastest times respectively, only separated by Jussi Valimaki in seventh place. With this result, Stohl moves in front of Matthew Wilson in the race standings, taking ninth place away from the British driver.
Jan Kopecky and Jari-Matti Latvala completed the top ten.
| WRXedUSA | 08-19-2006 12:37 PM |
WRC.com/Ford reported that Gronholm was at full throttle for 46seconds on Ouninpohja AVERAGING 171kph (106mph)
Whoa!
Whoa!
| steev | 08-19-2006 01:47 PM |
"Absolutely not! He's good but he also has good luck and the best car. Just look at Gardemeister, he does his, what, 2nd or 3rd WRC and beats Gr�nholm on some stages in Germany in a Cittro. Though I think Ford should've kept Toni in Ford instead of Mikko but rumor has it Mikko brought some sponsor money with him to Ford and Toni couldnt bring any. Make no mistake, I like both my countrymen but think Toni is the better and mature driver right now and yeah, I know Fords official version was they wanted one world champion caliber driver and one young driver.
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I am sorry, but is it just me or does the above comment regarding Loeb's talent seem devoid of any pragmatism? First off, the Citroen Xsara is not longer being developed. As in: there is not much performance to get out of it anymore at this point. So, inherently, it is an almost 2 year-old car battling a new Subaru and a newly developed Focus. How can you peg the advantage to just the car? Furthermore, by reading the stage results and time sheets for the ongoing rally, it is rather obvious that Gronholm is beating him. So, should we then attribute his success solely to the Focus and disregard his driving ability? Of course not! I also don't think you can be just lucky so many times. You can definitely "create" your own luck by being consistent, having a clean driving style and other qualities that are just traits of a talented driver. Let's give credit where it is due. One does not equal a 26 WRC victory record without talent. Especially when it took king Carlos 15 years to accomplish, and only 5 years for Loeb...
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I am sorry, but is it just me or does the above comment regarding Loeb's talent seem devoid of any pragmatism? First off, the Citroen Xsara is not longer being developed. As in: there is not much performance to get out of it anymore at this point. So, inherently, it is an almost 2 year-old car battling a new Subaru and a newly developed Focus. How can you peg the advantage to just the car? Furthermore, by reading the stage results and time sheets for the ongoing rally, it is rather obvious that Gronholm is beating him. So, should we then attribute his success solely to the Focus and disregard his driving ability? Of course not! I also don't think you can be just lucky so many times. You can definitely "create" your own luck by being consistent, having a clean driving style and other qualities that are just traits of a talented driver. Let's give credit where it is due. One does not equal a 26 WRC victory record without talent. Especially when it took king Carlos 15 years to accomplish, and only 5 years for Loeb...
| sb427f-car | 08-19-2006 02:11 PM |
[QUOTE=Jay911]There's a link on the left side once you try to get into the WRC+ area if you're not registered. Try this: [url]http://www.wrc.com/page/BuyWRCPlus/0,,10111,00.html[/url]
You might try [url]http://www.rally-live.com[/url] but that's apparently not too stupendous. Besides listening to Rally Radio on WRC+ (Rally Radio is free nowadays, btw, I think, i.e. not part of WRC+), I end up downloading the Eurosport coverage as torrents, etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just don't get any buttons where it says, "create a new account" or antyhing like that...oh well.
You might try [url]http://www.rally-live.com[/url] but that's apparently not too stupendous. Besides listening to Rally Radio on WRC+ (Rally Radio is free nowadays, btw, I think, i.e. not part of WRC+), I end up downloading the Eurosport coverage as torrents, etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just don't get any buttons where it says, "create a new account" or antyhing like that...oh well.
| Jay911 | 08-19-2006 02:51 PM |
I thought I heard on rally radio that someone (not a top driver) got excluded at one point for not wearing gloves, or not wearing the right gloves, in-stage. I was on the phone and couldn't hear it clearly. Anyone catch the full story there?
| soldmyboxster | 08-19-2006 03:00 PM |
Some drivers were excluded for not wearing the proper flameproof underwear. I heard the mentioning of gloves as well.
| bknblk | 08-19-2006 08:50 PM |
It's a good thing SWRT got rid of the Mikko kid... He sucks!!! :rolleyes:
| ralliharri | 08-20-2006 04:03 AM |
Mikko took his first stage win in Jyv�skyl� at SS18, ahead of Bosse and Loeb. Subarus come in at 11 through 13th places O/A, led by Anton Alen.
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