| kellygnsd | 11-11-2006 07:57 PM |
^^^
my bad, must of brezzed over that
my bad, must of brezzed over that
| PA04STI | 11-12-2006 12:46 AM |
Wonder if they can put me on the 50 year payment plan for a GT3 cup car.....hmmmmmmmmmmm
| AdsWRX | 11-12-2006 12:38 PM |
You guys got it all wrong. The Porsche that won the event is driven by James Sofranos. He is the owner of GMG motorsports. He has raced that Porsche in Speed World Challenge for 2 years now. It is a fully developed car, not even close to being a Stock Gt3 cup car. The bodywork is completely different and is Carbon, splitter in the front, much taller rear wing, different brakes, a Porsche NA sprint motor makes closer to 500hp crank, plus fully dialed Motons, and some trick carbon fiber wheels, just to name a few mods. James is an excellent driver. Yes he is wealthy, but that car/team is a full out race team which he owns and operates. So he is not just some rich guy that shows up and pays people to do all the work. He is a legit racer/business man. He also raced in Speed World Challenge touring car in a tecmark car for a long time. The Engineer that built that car was Nathan McBride, who also engineered the Jon Groom 997's to a championship in this years Speed World Challenge Gt. The 996 is an awesome car.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.
| mav1c | 11-12-2006 12:46 PM |
Thanks for the info. I figured it had to be more than just a customer GT3 cup car. Just goes to show what a well developed car + great team + great driver can do. :)
[QUOTE=AdsWRX;15959863]You guys got it all wrong. The Porsche that won the event is driven by James Sofranos. He is the owner of GMG motorsports. He has raced that Porsche in Speed World Challenge for 2 years now. It is a fully developed car, not even close to being a Stock Gt3 cup car. The bodywork is completely different and is Carbon, splitter in the front, much taller rear wing, different brakes, a Porsche NA sprint motor makes closer to 500hp crank, plus fully dialed Motons, and some trick carbon fiber wheels, just to name a few mods. James is an excellent driver. Yes he is wealthy, but that car/team is a full out race team which he owns and operates. So he is not just some rich guy that shows up and pays people to do all the work. He is a legit racer/business man. He also raced in Speed World Challenge touring car in a tecmark car for a long time. The Engineer that built that car was Nathan McBride, who also engineered the Jon Groom 997's to a championship in this years Speed World Challenge Gt. The 996 is an awesome car.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AdsWRX;15959863]You guys got it all wrong. The Porsche that won the event is driven by James Sofranos. He is the owner of GMG motorsports. He has raced that Porsche in Speed World Challenge for 2 years now. It is a fully developed car, not even close to being a Stock Gt3 cup car. The bodywork is completely different and is Carbon, splitter in the front, much taller rear wing, different brakes, a Porsche NA sprint motor makes closer to 500hp crank, plus fully dialed Motons, and some trick carbon fiber wheels, just to name a few mods. James is an excellent driver. Yes he is wealthy, but that car/team is a full out race team which he owns and operates. So he is not just some rich guy that shows up and pays people to do all the work. He is a legit racer/business man. He also raced in Speed World Challenge touring car in a tecmark car for a long time. The Engineer that built that car was Nathan McBride, who also engineered the Jon Groom 997's to a championship in this years Speed World Challenge Gt. The 996 is an awesome car.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.[/QUOTE]
| spazegun2213 | 11-12-2006 12:51 PM |
[QUOTE=AdsWRX;15959863]You guys got it all wrong. The Porsche that won the event is driven by James Sofranos. He is the owner of GMG motorsports. He has raced that Porsche in Speed World Challenge for 2 years now. It is a fully developed car, not even close to being a Stock Gt3 cup car. The bodywork is completely different and is Carbon, splitter in the front, much taller rear wing, different brakes, a Porsche NA sprint motor makes closer to 500hp crank, plus fully dialed Motons, and some trick carbon fiber wheels, just to name a few mods. James is an excellent driver. Yes he is wealthy, but that car/team is a full out race team which he owns and operates. So he is not just some rich guy that shows up and pays people to do all the work. He is a legit racer/business man. He also raced in Speed World Challenge touring car in a tecmark car for a long time. The Engineer that built that car was Nathan McBride, who also engineered the Jon Groom 997's to a championship in this years Speed World Challenge Gt. The 996 is an awesome car.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.[/QUOTE]
yea, james is known well over on rennlist. While that car is a real race car, yes the CF body work takes a hundred or so lbs off the car (if I'm not mistaken i think the OE body work for the cup cars is fiberglass). And yes, that motor is probably making 500hp. Even then, how is that car that much different from the others with CF body work, 500+ hp and hoosiers?
I really need to find the specs on that skyline to see how close those cars really were :)
still, I'm glad james showed up and let people see what race cars are really capable of, and how close tuners are coming to that level.
How do I know all this, well i work for Jon Groom Racing and won the championship this year, and am close with the team from GMG.[/QUOTE]
yea, james is known well over on rennlist. While that car is a real race car, yes the CF body work takes a hundred or so lbs off the car (if I'm not mistaken i think the OE body work for the cup cars is fiberglass). And yes, that motor is probably making 500hp. Even then, how is that car that much different from the others with CF body work, 500+ hp and hoosiers?
I really need to find the specs on that skyline to see how close those cars really were :)
still, I'm glad james showed up and let people see what race cars are really capable of, and how close tuners are coming to that level.
| joey1313 | 11-12-2006 01:19 PM |
It just goes to show that the Subarus make plenty enough power. Chassis\suspension tuning and weight reduction are whats needed now.
| PA04STI | 11-12-2006 02:54 PM |
[QUOTE=AdsWRX;15959863] So he is not just some rich guy that shows up and pays people to do all the work. He is a legit racer/business man. He also raced in Speed World Challenge touring car in a tecmark car for a long time.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about most GT3 cup teams...Most of them are rich dudes that pay a team to work on their car all season and just show up to race....:rolleyes:
I was talking about most GT3 cup teams...Most of them are rich dudes that pay a team to work on their car all season and just show up to race....:rolleyes:
| kemon78 | 11-12-2006 03:15 PM |
does anybody know who the official photographers were for this event and what their website is?
| AdsWRX | 11-12-2006 05:08 PM |
The 996 Gt3 cup car that James ran in WC had a base weight with driver of 2,800lbs. He is a big guy, prolly 6ft 3" and over 200 lbs. That car without driver is around 2,600lbs.
Stock Gt3 Cup cars have plastic OEM body panels. The only carbon body panels on that Porsche are Front + rear bumpers, rear decklid, hood, mirrors, and splitter. The doors are carbon-kevlar.
The doors, wing, hood, and rear decklid come in carbon from the factory.
The biggest development on these porsches besides shock package, is the roll bar setup. Completely re-designed. Porsches love roll bar changes.
Sorry PA04STi, must have missed that part of your thread.
Stock Gt3 Cup cars have plastic OEM body panels. The only carbon body panels on that Porsche are Front + rear bumpers, rear decklid, hood, mirrors, and splitter. The doors are carbon-kevlar.
The doors, wing, hood, and rear decklid come in carbon from the factory.
The biggest development on these porsches besides shock package, is the roll bar setup. Completely re-designed. Porsches love roll bar changes.
Sorry PA04STi, must have missed that part of your thread.
| Spectre23 | 11-12-2006 05:53 PM |
[QUOTE=kemon78;15961029]does anybody know who the official photographers were for this event and what their website is?[/QUOTE]
Cali Photography was there taking pictures. I don't remember their website.
Cali Photography was there taking pictures. I don't remember their website.
| modaddict | 11-12-2006 06:50 PM |
Congrats to the suby drivers!
All those cars are keeping us proud!
that crawford car is wicked too!
All those cars are keeping us proud!
that crawford car is wicked too!
| MaxSTi05 | 11-12-2006 07:43 PM |
Yes, kudos for the xlnt balls out driving of Russ Warr and the Crawford team! I'd like to see him go head to head, again, with Patrick Lindsey and his sorted Audi S4 :) That S4 with the Penske susp was superb!
| Scoobyslack1 | 11-13-2006 03:18 PM |
[QUOTE=mrubino83;15936696][IMG]http://media.carster.com/images/upload/110806-575-35.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Damn...I didn't know Matt was driving the Cobb car :)
Damn...I didn't know Matt was driving the Cobb car :)
| BHawk | 11-13-2006 09:29 PM |
It looked like the zerosports car didn't have a widebody. How wide were the tires that they ran? I think the crawford car likely had more time left in it. It's just difficult to get all the speed out of a car that never seems to run out of grip.
After re reading I am going to have to assume that the crawford entry was not Dr Warr's widebody gt35r monster car.
After re reading I am going to have to assume that the crawford entry was not Dr Warr's widebody gt35r monster car.
| scoobdo | 11-13-2006 10:31 PM |
[QUOTE=BHawk;15977681]After re reading I am going to have to assume that the crawford entry was not Dr Warr's widebody gt35r monster car.[/QUOTE]
Correct. It was Crawfords widebody car.
Correct. It was Crawfords widebody car.
| Kikin | 11-13-2006 10:33 PM |
[QUOTE=BHawk;15977681]It looked like the zerosports car didn't have a widebody. How wide were the tires that they ran? I think the crawford car likely had more time left in it. It's just difficult to get all the speed out of a car that never seems to run out of grip.
After re reading I am going to have to assume that the crawford entry was not Dr Warr's widebody gt35r monster car.[/QUOTE]
It was Dr Warr's car. Here is a pic of the car:
[IMG]http://s07.picshome.com/92c/crawford.jpg[/IMG]
After re reading I am going to have to assume that the crawford entry was not Dr Warr's widebody gt35r monster car.[/QUOTE]
It was Dr Warr's car. Here is a pic of the car:
[IMG]http://s07.picshome.com/92c/crawford.jpg[/IMG]
| modaddict | 11-13-2006 10:39 PM |
Ibhechangesthepicture^^^
| jrerin | 11-14-2006 12:35 AM |
the car was mine...sold it to Crawford. They put the widebody kit on B4 the USCC. The 450 HP motor was in the car. We ran Nittos for the first time not the Kumhos......The car had the gt35 turbo and the Crawford up and down pipe and their front mount.... It is the same car we ran all year...I has just been evolving a bit..... If all goes well the tube car will be ready for next year. That is the car that was in the NGK booth at SEMA. 2650lbs.....I can only wish. All I can say is that it will be lighter than the car we are runing now. Hope to have it for the start of next season. We will need it to keep up with the other shops.....
C ya at the track!!!
Russ:banana:
C ya at the track!!!
Russ:banana:
| MaxSTi05 | 11-14-2006 01:05 AM |
[QUOTE=jrerin;15979753]the car was mine...sold it to Crawford. They put the widebody kit on B4 the USCC. The 450 HP motor was in the car. We ran Nittos for the first time not the Kumhos......The car had the gt35 turbo and the Crawford up and down pipe and their front mount.... It is the same car we ran all year...I has just been evolving a bit..... If all goes well the tube car will be ready for next year. That is the car that was in the NGK booth at SEMA. 2650lbs.....I can only wish. All I can say is that it will be lighter than the car we are runing now. Hope to have it for the start of next season. We will need it to keep up with the other shops.....
C ya at the track!!!
Russ:banana:[/QUOTE]
Well, my first obvious question. How do the Nittos grip vs V710s vs RA-1s, for these types of track events? What about wear, as long lasting as RA-1s?
Great work, again, Russ! :D
C ya at the track!!!
Russ:banana:[/QUOTE]
Well, my first obvious question. How do the Nittos grip vs V710s vs RA-1s, for these types of track events? What about wear, as long lasting as RA-1s?
Great work, again, Russ! :D
| Edo Performance | 11-14-2006 02:39 PM |
[QUOTE=alcrudojr #00;15942007]Saludos,
This was my first Time Attacks Finals and my first time @ buttonwillow "I'm the driver of EDO's STI". I want to congratulate all competitors because of the profesional atmosphiere in the track. There were a lot of good subies from good companies at the track. I got the chance to talk to Phil for a while, nice car!, also I met some of Cobb's car staff, very nice people!. In general all subaru's look great and did well.
From what I can recall the times were something like this for the Subies!
Zerosports JP 1.51:05
Crawford Performance WB STI 1.55:4x
EDO's Performance STI 1.56:43
Dyno Comp STI 1.57:5x
Cobb Tunning STI 1.58:xx
Element Tunning STI 1.59:xx
They were other two STI's, one white one with charge speed body but I don't recall there time and one black from a nice guy from LA.
From what I could see next year would be a good year for subie's, lots of good new teams that will keep developing there cars for this kinds of events.
[IMG]http://s07.picshome.com/8bf/cp2_3315web(1).jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
Round of applause for Miguel! He took the EDO Performance car to new levels this year. With his continued support, we at EDO Performance and Zero/Sports, hopes to gain more support from the community.
:banana: :banana: :banana:
This was my first Time Attacks Finals and my first time @ buttonwillow "I'm the driver of EDO's STI". I want to congratulate all competitors because of the profesional atmosphiere in the track. There were a lot of good subies from good companies at the track. I got the chance to talk to Phil for a while, nice car!, also I met some of Cobb's car staff, very nice people!. In general all subaru's look great and did well.
From what I can recall the times were something like this for the Subies!
Zerosports JP 1.51:05
Crawford Performance WB STI 1.55:4x
EDO's Performance STI 1.56:43
Dyno Comp STI 1.57:5x
Cobb Tunning STI 1.58:xx
Element Tunning STI 1.59:xx
They were other two STI's, one white one with charge speed body but I don't recall there time and one black from a nice guy from LA.
From what I could see next year would be a good year for subie's, lots of good new teams that will keep developing there cars for this kinds of events.
[IMG]http://s07.picshome.com/8bf/cp2_3315web(1).jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
Round of applause for Miguel! He took the EDO Performance car to new levels this year. With his continued support, we at EDO Performance and Zero/Sports, hopes to gain more support from the community.
:banana: :banana: :banana:
| jrerin | 11-14-2006 08:07 PM |
never tried the RA1's
did not have time to shave the NT01's
At full depth the were real good. they did not fall off after the first few laps. the grip level was down from the 710's. John from Nitto did say the tire is faster shaved to 2/32 but that takes a lot of the tire life away....A LOT!!!! I would have to do a back to back but for the weekend track guy in the summer the Nitto will get more tire life. If speed it the goal then the Kumho or the Hoosier is the way to go. I like the Kumho but thats my opinion.....:) The Kumho is a 30 tread wear, Hoosier is a 40 and the Nitto was a 100. BFG has there new DOT slick out...... Supposed to be faster than the Hoosier and it is a big tire..... a lot bigger than the size on the side of the tire...... We will have to see....
Russ:banana:
did not have time to shave the NT01's
At full depth the were real good. they did not fall off after the first few laps. the grip level was down from the 710's. John from Nitto did say the tire is faster shaved to 2/32 but that takes a lot of the tire life away....A LOT!!!! I would have to do a back to back but for the weekend track guy in the summer the Nitto will get more tire life. If speed it the goal then the Kumho or the Hoosier is the way to go. I like the Kumho but thats my opinion.....:) The Kumho is a 30 tread wear, Hoosier is a 40 and the Nitto was a 100. BFG has there new DOT slick out...... Supposed to be faster than the Hoosier and it is a big tire..... a lot bigger than the size on the side of the tire...... We will have to see....
Russ:banana:
| Bimmubishi | 11-14-2006 09:19 PM |
Good job Edo! That is a quick scooby!
-Alex @dentsport
-Alex @dentsport
| MaxSTi05 | 11-15-2006 01:18 AM |
[QUOTE=jrerin;15990786]never tried the RA1's
did not have time to shave the NT01's
At full depth the were real good. they did not fall off after the first few laps. the grip level was down from the 710's. John from Nitto did say the tire is faster shaved to 2/32 but that takes a lot of the tire life away....A LOT!!!! I would have to do a back to back but for the weekend track guy in the summer the Nitto will get more tire life. If speed it the goal then the Kumho or the Hoosier is the way to go. I like the Kumho but thats my opinion.....:) The Kumho is a 30 tread wear, Hoosier is a 40 and the Nitto was a 100. BFG has there new DOT slick out...... Supposed to be faster than the Hoosier and it is a big tire..... a lot bigger than the size on the side of the tire...... We will have to see....
Russ:banana:[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Russ, great first hand info! I might try the 710's next, after my RA1's wear out. That's one of the reasons I went with shaved RA1's, longer tread life even starting at 4/32". But I have heard the 710's do grip better in the dry, compromising tread wear though. Anyway, now there is a new player, the NT01's, hmmm.
did not have time to shave the NT01's
At full depth the were real good. they did not fall off after the first few laps. the grip level was down from the 710's. John from Nitto did say the tire is faster shaved to 2/32 but that takes a lot of the tire life away....A LOT!!!! I would have to do a back to back but for the weekend track guy in the summer the Nitto will get more tire life. If speed it the goal then the Kumho or the Hoosier is the way to go. I like the Kumho but thats my opinion.....:) The Kumho is a 30 tread wear, Hoosier is a 40 and the Nitto was a 100. BFG has there new DOT slick out...... Supposed to be faster than the Hoosier and it is a big tire..... a lot bigger than the size on the side of the tire...... We will have to see....
Russ:banana:[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Russ, great first hand info! I might try the 710's next, after my RA1's wear out. That's one of the reasons I went with shaved RA1's, longer tread life even starting at 4/32". But I have heard the 710's do grip better in the dry, compromising tread wear though. Anyway, now there is a new player, the NT01's, hmmm.
| sleepy98 | 11-17-2006 01:15 AM |
Ah HA! Man I guess i've been working too much. I didn't know about these results until today, doah!
Way to represent the Subarus guys!
Im glad that crawford is stepping up to the plate and showing what they are really capable of. But I am sure the haters don't like it one bit:(
Way to represent the Subarus guys!
Im glad that crawford is stepping up to the plate and showing what they are really capable of. But I am sure the haters don't like it one bit:(
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