| meebs | 05-19-2002 12:11 AM |
[quote]Im playing the smallest violin in the world just for all you guys.
Sure it sucks. But is it really that big of a deal? No need to get your panties in a bunch.[/quote]
umm.. yeah. why bother interuppting a TAPED show for another.... here comes the shocker.. TAPED show. Quite a slap in the face for all the emails they recieved yesterday, I'm sure.
Oh and whoever merged the threads.. it should be WRC.. not WRX, heh.
Sure it sucks. But is it really that big of a deal? No need to get your panties in a bunch.[/quote]
umm.. yeah. why bother interuppting a TAPED show for another.... here comes the shocker.. TAPED show. Quite a slap in the face for all the emails they recieved yesterday, I'm sure.
Oh and whoever merged the threads.. it should be WRC.. not WRX, heh.
| driggity | 05-19-2002 12:12 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Clegg [/i]
[B]man if you are going to merge a thread, name it right....
WRC not WRX!!!!
hehehehe [/B][/QUOTE]
Haha, silly mods :lol:
And now, back to the rallying. w00t w00t!!! :cool:
[B]man if you are going to merge a thread, name it right....
WRC not WRX!!!!
hehehehe [/B][/QUOTE]
Haha, silly mods :lol:
And now, back to the rallying. w00t w00t!!! :cool:
| WHTWRX | 05-19-2002 12:34 AM |
Well, if there is a god, then perhaps a few NASCRAP fans became WRC fans as a result of this most unprofessional broadcast tonight.
BTW, I LOVE the WRC coverage, but this announcer has got to go, or at least SHUT THE HELL UP during the in-car footage! (Yes, thanks for pointing out the SWRT.COM sticker during the Cyprus broadcast!) :lol:
BTW, I LOVE the WRC coverage, but this announcer has got to go, or at least SHUT THE HELL UP during the in-car footage! (Yes, thanks for pointing out the SWRT.COM sticker during the Cyprus broadcast!) :lol:
| meebs | 05-19-2002 12:35 AM |
let's start a pool
Ok let's get a pool going...
1. they delay the start
2. they interrupt.
3. they forget about it altogether.
I'm guessing number 3 for tomorrow.
[quote]Jesus, what a bunch of whiney beochs.[/quote]
I'm guessing the above devil's advocate does not get speedvision, hmmm? LOL.:lol: :lol: :rolleyes:
edit: oh and i wonder how many nascrap fans emailed DEMANDING that their winston cup junk interupt, WRC... I'm guessing zero, how about you?
1. they delay the start
2. they interrupt.
3. they forget about it altogether.
I'm guessing number 3 for tomorrow.
[quote]Jesus, what a bunch of whiney beochs.[/quote]
I'm guessing the above devil's advocate does not get speedvision, hmmm? LOL.:lol: :lol: :rolleyes:
edit: oh and i wonder how many nascrap fans emailed DEMANDING that their winston cup junk interupt, WRC... I'm guessing zero, how about you?
| Thug | 05-19-2002 12:50 AM |
No, I dont get Speedvision. I get Speed[b]Channel[/b]. Which gives me 5 times as much coverage as Speedvision gave me 2 years ago. Your emails mean crap compared to the millions of dollars that NASCAR brings in. It sux, but it's the truth.
| Clegg | 05-19-2002 12:52 AM |
my dad who is a big nascrap fan, saw one of my WRC DVD's and since then he just LOVES WRC compared to Nascrap.
he called me when SpeedTV interuptedWRC for nascar stuff ( which he just got done watching that nascar race) PISSED that they interupted WRC for that "Crap"!
See even some Nascrap people didnt dig that!
he called me when SpeedTV interuptedWRC for nascar stuff ( which he just got done watching that nascar race) PISSED that they interupted WRC for that "Crap"!
See even some Nascrap people didnt dig that!
| wrxinfx | 05-19-2002 01:20 AM |
The on-the-fly programming makes no sense to me at all. What Nascar fans did they think they were serving? If the schedule says "WRC" then rally fans are watching. GRRRRRRRR:mad:
| hoodwho | 05-19-2002 01:20 AM |
Go ahead and email em.
this is what they think:
Thank you for contacting Speed Channel.
We commit ourselves to read all of your comments. However, due to the
quantity of emails we receive, we may not be able to answer every email. If
your question does not receive a response, we ask that you please visit the
FAQ page on our website at [url]www.SpeedTV.com,[/url] or try contacting us again.
Your comments and feedback are greatly appreciated.
To find out if Speed is available on your cable system, call 1-888-22-SPEED
or call your cable operator or satellite provider directly.
That was the email I recieved.
:rolleyes:
whiney? its not like 3 hours a month is asking too much for WRC...
I mean it does involve SPEED doesnt it? and It IS the oldest form of racing in the WORLD (the part outside the USA)
Oh yea and one of the most popular (outside the US)
eh...
but what can you do eh?
:alien:
this is what they think:
Thank you for contacting Speed Channel.
We commit ourselves to read all of your comments. However, due to the
quantity of emails we receive, we may not be able to answer every email. If
your question does not receive a response, we ask that you please visit the
FAQ page on our website at [url]www.SpeedTV.com,[/url] or try contacting us again.
Your comments and feedback are greatly appreciated.
To find out if Speed is available on your cable system, call 1-888-22-SPEED
or call your cable operator or satellite provider directly.
That was the email I recieved.
:rolleyes:
whiney? its not like 3 hours a month is asking too much for WRC...
I mean it does involve SPEED doesnt it? and It IS the oldest form of racing in the WORLD (the part outside the USA)
Oh yea and one of the most popular (outside the US)
eh...
but what can you do eh?
:alien:
| meebs | 05-19-2002 02:06 AM |
[quote]No, I dont get Speedvision. I get SpeedChannel. Which gives me 5 times as much coverage as Speedvision gave me 2 years ago. Your emails mean crap compared to the millions of dollars that NASCAR brings in. It sux, but it's the truth.
[/quote]
HYUCK!:rolleyes: Let me say again... why would you interupt a taped show, for more TAPED HIGHLIGHTS? There is no common sense in that. They did it either to a.) spite those of us that blasted them last night, or b.) try to draw more fans into their main programming.
Regarding this year's WRC coverage. Quantity doesn't equal quality, The ammount of in-car shots this year is on the extreme side... and then not to mention taking 10 minutes out of the hour to [i]rehash[/i] the in-car shots...AGAIN. The 2000 year coverage was the best, way more focused.
[/quote]
HYUCK!:rolleyes: Let me say again... why would you interupt a taped show, for more TAPED HIGHLIGHTS? There is no common sense in that. They did it either to a.) spite those of us that blasted them last night, or b.) try to draw more fans into their main programming.
Regarding this year's WRC coverage. Quantity doesn't equal quality, The ammount of in-car shots this year is on the extreme side... and then not to mention taking 10 minutes out of the hour to [i]rehash[/i] the in-car shots...AGAIN. The 2000 year coverage was the best, way more focused.
| Red-Impreza | 05-19-2002 02:40 AM |
Speed Channel sucks. This is worse then getting only 1/2 hour of coverage per rally. At least I enjoyed that 1/2 hour. I think I'm going to puke if I here Gary-red-neck-Shaheen tell me what one more bloody obvious part of the car is.
They wouldn't have the balls to interrupt an F1 race for a NASCRAP update. I'm truly starting to despise both NASCAR and SpeedTV... and that's really a shame.
I'm also sick of hearing people defend them. What they did this weekend was simply poor quality TV. Start your own damn thread. In this thread we want to bitch about them.
:mad:
"That lever on to the right of the driver is a hand brake. It's used to help turn the car in tight corners"
:mad: :mad: :mad: Hey Gary, explain to me what a tachometer does. That's an awfully big word and I'm not sure I understand it.
:mad: Moron! :mad:
They wouldn't have the balls to interrupt an F1 race for a NASCRAP update. I'm truly starting to despise both NASCAR and SpeedTV... and that's really a shame.
I'm also sick of hearing people defend them. What they did this weekend was simply poor quality TV. Start your own damn thread. In this thread we want to bitch about them.
:mad:
"That lever on to the right of the driver is a hand brake. It's used to help turn the car in tight corners"
:mad: :mad: :mad: Hey Gary, explain to me what a tachometer does. That's an awfully big word and I'm not sure I understand it.
:mad: Moron! :mad:
| Coati | 05-19-2002 02:53 AM |
Truly annoying. I got back from the rallycross to find my VCR taped half a WRC broadcast and a bunch of something I never wanted to watch.:mad:
Whiney beeyotch email sent to Speed Channel.
Whiney beeyotch email sent to Speed Channel.
| johnfelstead | 05-19-2002 05:25 AM |
hehehe
that sucks!:monkey: speedchanel
OK, back to chanel4's coverage, which really sucks ass :monkey:
I used to watch my WRC on Eurosport, but my digital provider went tits up 2 weeks ago as they paid too much for bloody football (soccer to you lot) coverage and went bankrupt, end of all my digital channels.:monkey:
Yes it sucks, but at least you have some coverage and some hope of decent coverage in the future, i now have to listen to Penny (i used to be a really crap rally driver) Mallory. That really sucks :monkey:
:lol:
that sucks!:monkey: speedchanel
OK, back to chanel4's coverage, which really sucks ass :monkey:
I used to watch my WRC on Eurosport, but my digital provider went tits up 2 weeks ago as they paid too much for bloody football (soccer to you lot) coverage and went bankrupt, end of all my digital channels.:monkey:
Yes it sucks, but at least you have some coverage and some hope of decent coverage in the future, i now have to listen to Penny (i used to be a really crap rally driver) Mallory. That really sucks :monkey:
:lol:
| TampaWRX | 05-19-2002 08:33 AM |
I was really surprised when Speedchannel pulled the plug on WRC. I'm not sure who would have been watching, but I know I wasn't. How much can you say about The Winston??? It was a pretty good night overall and the race to the finish was classic NASCAR stuff, but it was a non-points race that essentially means nothing. Yet they felt the need to preempt a show in order to broadcast highlights??? I see the proliferation of NASCAR in the United States as a threat to other forms of racing on these shores. It's crazy to think that people are THAT into oveal racing. I think SpeedChannel/FOX overestimate consumer interest. Chances are, the ratings for that portion of the broadcast did not go up when they switched to WC coverage. If anything, they probably saw a drop as WRC fans clicked off. That's really the only thing they are going to listen to after all...:rolleyes:
| 63Alpine | 05-19-2002 09:49 AM |
As I said earlier, you guys need to cut down on the caffeine.
No matter how you slice it we are getting MORE coverage of F1 and rally this year than we did before. Do you know why? Because of the NASCAR money. You know what I did when they cut into the coverage last night? I went to bed.
If you want to send them emails then go ahead but do you think coming in here and crying like a spoiled baby that had it's bottle taken away is going to change anything? Do you think that there is a guy in the Speed Channel control booth with a big handlebar mustache rubbing his hands together going "Muuaaahhhhahhhhahha, I will get those darned rally fans! Put on..........NASCAR highlights! Muuuuhhhaaaaaaaa!" It is obvious that NASCAR is where the money is and when the highlight film is done they run it. If you don't like it then cancel your subscription.
As I have said on here multiple times, NASCAR is a perfectly valid racing format. If you don't like it then just shut up, there are some of us that do like it along with rally and f1 and ALMS and touring cars and so on. I find it amusing that professional racers in other series consider NASCAR to be a good series and the drivers to be professionals while the "experts" on i-club have deemed it to be crap. I would like to see one of the wineasses on this board hop into a Corvette like Dale Earnhardt and Dale Jr did a couple of years ago and bring home the car as a winner in an endurance race. Frankly I would like to see some other racing series mix things up a little like NASCAR. I think the Winston is pretty cool and it is fun to watch. As a matter of fact it is about 100x more fun than watching the F1 parade around the Hungaroring.
No matter how you slice it we are getting MORE coverage of F1 and rally this year than we did before. Do you know why? Because of the NASCAR money. You know what I did when they cut into the coverage last night? I went to bed.
If you want to send them emails then go ahead but do you think coming in here and crying like a spoiled baby that had it's bottle taken away is going to change anything? Do you think that there is a guy in the Speed Channel control booth with a big handlebar mustache rubbing his hands together going "Muuaaahhhhahhhhahha, I will get those darned rally fans! Put on..........NASCAR highlights! Muuuuhhhaaaaaaaa!" It is obvious that NASCAR is where the money is and when the highlight film is done they run it. If you don't like it then cancel your subscription.
As I have said on here multiple times, NASCAR is a perfectly valid racing format. If you don't like it then just shut up, there are some of us that do like it along with rally and f1 and ALMS and touring cars and so on. I find it amusing that professional racers in other series consider NASCAR to be a good series and the drivers to be professionals while the "experts" on i-club have deemed it to be crap. I would like to see one of the wineasses on this board hop into a Corvette like Dale Earnhardt and Dale Jr did a couple of years ago and bring home the car as a winner in an endurance race. Frankly I would like to see some other racing series mix things up a little like NASCAR. I think the Winston is pretty cool and it is fun to watch. As a matter of fact it is about 100x more fun than watching the F1 parade around the Hungaroring.
| meebs | 05-19-2002 10:53 AM |
[quote]but do you think coming in here and crying like a spoiled baby that had it's bottle taken away is going to change anything?[/quote]
It's called venting... and just as you so happily "went to bed" after WRC was interrupted, you can do the same on a BBS... Shocker I know, but you don't [b]have[/b] to click on a thread. Especially one that bothers you so. :)
[quote][i]"Muuaaahhhhahhhhahha, I will get those darned rally fans! Put on..........NASCAR highlights! Muuuuhhhaaaaaaaa!" It is obvious that NASCAR is where the money is and when the highlight film is done they run it.[/i][/quote]
I really don't know how else to explain my point. I thought it was pretty simple.
Why would you interrupt a TAPED broadcast for highlights, when your target audience is NOT watching? WRC is same day coverage... it isn't [b]live[/b]. It goes for an hour, gaurenteed. There was 20 minutes left, what was so pertanant that could not have waited [b]twenty[/b] freaking minutes??
And the whole, NASCAR pays the bills whining is quite funny to read. You can go ahead and roll over with the "gee mr. speedchannel, thankyou for tossing me a scrap" attitude. That's fine, you like NASCAR anyway. I guess I'm more of a proactive buyer than just a consumer. Advertising and ratings pay the bills. Remember the XFL??? Exactly.........
[quote]I would like to see one of the wineasses on this board hop into a Corvette like Dale Earnhardt and Dale Jr did a couple of years ago and bring home the car as a winner in an endurance race.[/quote]
Actually... I've done 60 laps in a "pro-stock car" (I don't remember what exact classification it was....not the same HP but same size as nascar guys) around a smaller tri-oval. 2 of us were on the track, I started in front and lapped him in about 12 laps. If you have a feel for grip, and understand the fundamentals of driving a car fast, then racing really comes down to experience and whether or not you're willing to take a risk.
It's called venting... and just as you so happily "went to bed" after WRC was interrupted, you can do the same on a BBS... Shocker I know, but you don't [b]have[/b] to click on a thread. Especially one that bothers you so. :)
[quote][i]"Muuaaahhhhahhhhahha, I will get those darned rally fans! Put on..........NASCAR highlights! Muuuuhhhaaaaaaaa!" It is obvious that NASCAR is where the money is and when the highlight film is done they run it.[/i][/quote]
I really don't know how else to explain my point. I thought it was pretty simple.
Why would you interrupt a TAPED broadcast for highlights, when your target audience is NOT watching? WRC is same day coverage... it isn't [b]live[/b]. It goes for an hour, gaurenteed. There was 20 minutes left, what was so pertanant that could not have waited [b]twenty[/b] freaking minutes??
And the whole, NASCAR pays the bills whining is quite funny to read. You can go ahead and roll over with the "gee mr. speedchannel, thankyou for tossing me a scrap" attitude. That's fine, you like NASCAR anyway. I guess I'm more of a proactive buyer than just a consumer. Advertising and ratings pay the bills. Remember the XFL??? Exactly.........
[quote]I would like to see one of the wineasses on this board hop into a Corvette like Dale Earnhardt and Dale Jr did a couple of years ago and bring home the car as a winner in an endurance race.[/quote]
Actually... I've done 60 laps in a "pro-stock car" (I don't remember what exact classification it was....not the same HP but same size as nascar guys) around a smaller tri-oval. 2 of us were on the track, I started in front and lapped him in about 12 laps. If you have a feel for grip, and understand the fundamentals of driving a car fast, then racing really comes down to experience and whether or not you're willing to take a risk.
| EricB | 05-19-2002 11:40 AM |
I urge EVERYONE to go to the SpeedChannel's feedback page and complain about this. Here's the link:
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/feedback/?lvl=0f&cat=22&a_id=3[/url]
This is not the first time something like this has happenned. A week or 2 ago, they were showing an AMA 600 Supersport motorcycle race live (which they heavily promoted), and cut away half way through to the same post race NASCRAP show. They rejoined the motorcycle coverage to show the winner on the podium.
With all the complaints received from irate race rans, they apologized and said it was a mistake and wouldn't happen again. Here's the apology:
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/motorcycle/?lvl=3a&cat=13&id=1379[/url]
I guess they just meant it wouldn't happen for motorcycle racing. Maybe with enough comments they'll avoid doing this to WRC also.
Eric
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/feedback/?lvl=0f&cat=22&a_id=3[/url]
This is not the first time something like this has happenned. A week or 2 ago, they were showing an AMA 600 Supersport motorcycle race live (which they heavily promoted), and cut away half way through to the same post race NASCRAP show. They rejoined the motorcycle coverage to show the winner on the podium.
With all the complaints received from irate race rans, they apologized and said it was a mistake and wouldn't happen again. Here's the apology:
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/motorcycle/?lvl=3a&cat=13&id=1379[/url]
I guess they just meant it wouldn't happen for motorcycle racing. Maybe with enough comments they'll avoid doing this to WRC also.
Eric
| mclmk8d | 05-19-2002 11:55 AM |
They did it again!
They pre-empted the SCCA Cherokee Trails re-run for some sh**ty Bowflex infommercial...pisses me off; sent them a nasty-gram
| johnfelstead | 05-19-2002 12:01 PM |
what the heck :D
i just mailed em too, that should confuse the buggers. :D
[quote]you guys really need to get your act together.
I am an avid reader of some American BBS's and compete in rallies myself. For you to interupt the TV coverage of the WRC rally of Argentina with 20 minutes to go, and play a NASCAR review programme is insane.
What do you think that achieved apart from anoying rally fans? Were people suddenly emailed to say, hey guys, there is EVEN MORE NASCAR on during a scheduled WRC coverage event. All that has achieved is a lot of bad feeling, you have a huge amount of NASCAR coverage on your chanel, for you to screw up other motorsport fans viewing is unfair, at best it achieved resentment as the guys are already force fed NASCAR.
If the plan was to introduce NASCAR to the WRC audience, it failed miserably as these guys know NASCAR exists, you cant get away from it in the USA, quite a lot switched off in disgust losing your sponsors viewers!
Give the rally fans a break, they dont get a huge amount of coverage compared to other world renound sports such as NASCAR, (ok, i dont mean that but you have to say something nice :lol: ) it's insulting to treat them like second class subscribers.
P.S I think you have a great channel, but your screwing up way too often when it comes to keeping your subscibers happy. You screwed up the bike coverage 2 weeks ago in exactly the same way.
I doubt Dave Richards would be happy if he heard about the way you are treating the fan base he is trying to grow in the USA.
regards
john[/quote]
[quote]you guys really need to get your act together.
I am an avid reader of some American BBS's and compete in rallies myself. For you to interupt the TV coverage of the WRC rally of Argentina with 20 minutes to go, and play a NASCAR review programme is insane.
What do you think that achieved apart from anoying rally fans? Were people suddenly emailed to say, hey guys, there is EVEN MORE NASCAR on during a scheduled WRC coverage event. All that has achieved is a lot of bad feeling, you have a huge amount of NASCAR coverage on your chanel, for you to screw up other motorsport fans viewing is unfair, at best it achieved resentment as the guys are already force fed NASCAR.
If the plan was to introduce NASCAR to the WRC audience, it failed miserably as these guys know NASCAR exists, you cant get away from it in the USA, quite a lot switched off in disgust losing your sponsors viewers!
Give the rally fans a break, they dont get a huge amount of coverage compared to other world renound sports such as NASCAR, (ok, i dont mean that but you have to say something nice :lol: ) it's insulting to treat them like second class subscribers.
P.S I think you have a great channel, but your screwing up way too often when it comes to keeping your subscibers happy. You screwed up the bike coverage 2 weeks ago in exactly the same way.
I doubt Dave Richards would be happy if he heard about the way you are treating the fan base he is trying to grow in the USA.
regards
john[/quote]
| TheWRX | 05-19-2002 01:18 PM |
A group of us i-clubbers were watching this together, and when they interrupted for NASCAR, STiShawn grabbed the phone and started calling first the cable provider and then Speed. He left messages on the voice mails of couple of random extensions, and even got a live person there, seemingly in the newsroom. I don't think they had much to say, but STiShawn was venting like a champ, it was hilarious. Made for great entertainment until WRC was back on! :lol:
| travmn | 05-19-2002 02:14 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by EricB [/i]
[B]This is not the first time something like this has happenned. A week or 2 ago, they were showing an AMA 600 Supersport motorcycle race live (which they heavily promoted), and cut away half way through to the same post race NASCRAP show. They rejoined the motorcycle coverage to show the winner on the podium.
With all the complaints received from irate race rans, they apologized and said it was a mistake and wouldn't happen again. Here's the apology:
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/motorcycle/?lvl=3a&cat=13&id=1379[/url]
[/B][/QUOTE]
yeah, just gotta love how they stick to their word.
i see absolutely no reason for them to interrupt the other programming when basically every other hour (at least) there will be nascar coverage.
if they keep this trend up, they should just broadcast nascartv all day long and quit with the other programming, as they seem to care nothing for any other kind of programming. i wish we had speedvision back. IIRC it was speedvision who initiated the enhanced coverage of the WRC, which fox said they would try to keep up. Obviously they screwed up right away with the new announcer. and now management is proving how talented they really are...
[B]This is not the first time something like this has happenned. A week or 2 ago, they were showing an AMA 600 Supersport motorcycle race live (which they heavily promoted), and cut away half way through to the same post race NASCRAP show. They rejoined the motorcycle coverage to show the winner on the podium.
With all the complaints received from irate race rans, they apologized and said it was a mistake and wouldn't happen again. Here's the apology:
[url]http://www.speedvision.com/motorcycle/?lvl=3a&cat=13&id=1379[/url]
[/B][/QUOTE]
yeah, just gotta love how they stick to their word.
i see absolutely no reason for them to interrupt the other programming when basically every other hour (at least) there will be nascar coverage.
if they keep this trend up, they should just broadcast nascartv all day long and quit with the other programming, as they seem to care nothing for any other kind of programming. i wish we had speedvision back. IIRC it was speedvision who initiated the enhanced coverage of the WRC, which fox said they would try to keep up. Obviously they screwed up right away with the new announcer. and now management is proving how talented they really are...
| Will | 05-19-2002 05:29 PM |
Holy crap you guys are pissed, this is funny to read.
I was thinking about getting my cable back so I can watch SCCA races, WRC events, the GT series, and such, but thanks to Speed Channel, I'm saving $70 a month.
-Will
I was thinking about getting my cable back so I can watch SCCA races, WRC events, the GT series, and such, but thanks to Speed Channel, I'm saving $70 a month.
-Will
| firewrx | 05-19-2002 05:38 PM |
Venting to the only people that understand
Here's the feedback I sent SpeedChannel:
"Why must FOX ruin everything good and decent in the world!
For years I suffered the local cable companies ineptitude and horrible programming, I begged that company for to include the SpeedChannel in it's lineup. Unitll I discovered Directv, I led a Rally/F1 less existence. Recently I have also discovered TiVo and have since not missed a single race, untill this weekend that is. You constantly pre empt my beloved rally racing with hicks making left turns in "stock " cars. Please, in the name of everything good and decent at in the world stop doing this. I'm running out of remotes to throw at the television in frustration."
It probably wont do any good, but it sure did make me feel better
:)
"Why must FOX ruin everything good and decent in the world!
For years I suffered the local cable companies ineptitude and horrible programming, I begged that company for to include the SpeedChannel in it's lineup. Unitll I discovered Directv, I led a Rally/F1 less existence. Recently I have also discovered TiVo and have since not missed a single race, untill this weekend that is. You constantly pre empt my beloved rally racing with hicks making left turns in "stock " cars. Please, in the name of everything good and decent at in the world stop doing this. I'm running out of remotes to throw at the television in frustration."
It probably wont do any good, but it sure did make me feel better
:)
| Vinnie | 05-19-2002 06:56 PM |
The NASCAR Hillbillies are taking over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Opie | 05-19-2002 08:41 PM |
So speedchannel makes a mistake and now it's the fault of the nascar fans. Does a whole lot of good calling them names...rednecks, hillbilly's...all pretty funny when the statistics show that the average nascar fan earns over 70K per year and has a college education.
Really can't believe this thread has been left open this long with the comments and tone of the conversation.
Really can't believe this thread has been left open this long with the comments and tone of the conversation.
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