masiocinterior: San Diego Tour... part 1

Scooby South

03-04-2006 06:59 PM

San Diego Tour...
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Anyone know how its going out west...isn't KC codriving something...Josh Sorter should do well in STX...not to much happening in other classes...ie: AS, BSP, SM, DSP, and others..looking for updates..

Bill
#16 BSP

adhowe70

03-04-2006 07:33 PM

Its early still... give them a chance to finish for the day. I mean you posted at 4pm looking for results. ;)

Scooby South

03-04-2006 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=adhowe70]Its early still... give them a chance to finish for the day. I mean you posted at 4pm looking for results. ;)[/QUOTE]
yeah..I know...actually just needed some content for the thread..;)...

Bill

adhowe70

03-04-2006 08:04 PM

SM... The Sias-mobile skipped the weekend for a couple reasons. One was related to noise restrictions. I'd love to win SM this weekend, but wasn't sure 110 horsepower was enough to get it done. It'd suck to lose because you didn't have enough power to get out of your own way. :lol:

Scooby South

03-04-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=adhowe70]SM... The Sias-mobile skipped the weekend for a couple reasons. One was related to noise restrictions. I'd love to win SM this weekend, but wasn't sure 110 horsepower was enough to get it done. It'd suck to lose because you didn't have enough power to get out of your own way. :lol:[/QUOTE]
It seems the Bimmer boys...have that problem ...At Ft. Meyers...Flannagan had the same issue...kept spitting Steel wool out on course..:lol:...

Bill

makofoto

03-04-2006 08:48 PM

I believe Josh is something like 12th with a blown rear dif ... he's going to co-drive Barco's car tomorrow. Barco is in 4th ... tight group from 2nd to 4th. I believe the fellow that came in 2nd at Atwater has a good lead in STX. STU hadn't run yet when I talked to some folk down there.

KC was going to run Rocky's '05 STI in STU ... more as soon as my buds report in.

makofoto

03-04-2006 09:09 PM

Mark Coleman, who won STU last year, says that even though the course is not heavy in transition and it's pretty fast/flowing, but he's only hitting the 2nd gear STI limiter a couple of times ... the BMW's are cleaning up. National Champ (which class?) Steve Oblenes is I believe leading ... with Atwater winner and BMW driver Chris Teague up there along with local LA BMW hot shot driver Mike Simanyi. Mark didn't see KC? San Diego STI driver Tom Shepard was I believe the top STI. Max Hayter is I believe the third STI with his '06. Mark said his just wasn't going full out ... all three runs clean. I think it has something to do with the fact that he just got engaged last night to the english lass he meet at last years Tour. He won to impress her ... now ... :rolleyes: ;) :lol:

Scooby South

03-04-2006 09:41 PM

man...sorry to hear about Josh...that blows...

interesting..that the Bimmers are all on top...:rolleyes:...what happened to SM...only 2 entrants."????? wow...maybe I could have won....:lol:...;)..

thanks Makofoto...for the update...

Bill

adhowe70

03-04-2006 10:20 PM

Steve Oblenes is a multi-time national champ in B Prepared with a wicked RX-7.

Draken

03-04-2006 10:40 PM

i :heart: scca results updates

Chris H.
-wishing he was there getting his ass kicked by the BMWs

makofoto

03-04-2006 11:20 PM

I guess KC is co-driving James Wilson STS2 RX7 ... with an injured arm (?) ... and is in the top 3 ... sketchy info ... sorry

Going down tomorrow to check things out ... missed the Tour myself because I just got back this afternoon from 2 weeks with U2 in South American ... working on a 3D HD project with them. :D

Draken

03-04-2006 11:30 PM

Old man river broke his hand or wrist or something climbing down from the attic. He must have been looking for his jacket. Oh, wait, nevermind.

Thanks for the updates, and will you be in Fontana?

Chris H.
ps: :hugs: KC

Scooby South

03-05-2006 03:58 AM

[QUOTE=Draken]Old man river broke his hand or wrist or something climbing down from the attic. He must have been looking for his jacket. Oh, wait, nevermind.

Thanks for the updates, and will you be in Fontana?

Chris H.
ps: :hugs: KC[/QUOTE]

doh.....

Tom????:lol:

jcroy66

03-05-2006 08:14 AM

Yay, way to go KC! Looks like KC is leading STS2 by 0.8 seconds over Andy Hollis. Both KC's second and third runs were good enough for the lead. Oh, and why KC is in STS2 instead of STU: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=925127[/url]

Very unfortunate about Josh's car. :( Hope he can get it fixed in time for next weekend's Pro!

At least based on times, I wouldn't have characterized the BMWs as "running away with it". Top STi is only 0.2 out of first place. Very tight class - all 7 trophy spots are only separated by 0.369 seconds. Glad to see STU beginning to live up to its potential by beating STX and STS.

DrBiggly

03-05-2006 12:21 PM

I definitely want more updates. Sorry to hear about Sorter. :(

-Biggly

wm07	03-05-2006 01:55 PM

It looks like Yokohmama is the tire to have? or should I say M3s? :p

RacerMike

03-05-2006 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=wm07]It looks like Yokohmama is the tire to have? or should I say M3s? :p[/QUOTE]

Kumho is right there in 3rd, but JGW is a damn good driver.

wm07	03-05-2006 09:15 PM

any updates from the SoCal people? :)

BlkWRXWag

03-05-2006 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=wm07]any updates from the SoCal people? :)[/QUOTE]

Yes - I suck!!

In STU, Tom Shepherd was the top finishing STI in 4th. He really did a fabulous job and was way quicker than any other STI. He was running on RE070's. Steve O'Blenes won, closely followed by Mike Simanyi. On Saturday, I posted the 17th fastest (yea me!) after some slalom 'issues'. Today I posted the 7th fastest time and ended up 14th. Lots of fast transitions both days and speed maintenance was key. One BMW was running 275/40/17 615's!

In STX, Alec Osenback (sp?) won, someone (BMW) 2nd and Jeff Barco 3rd.

Scooby South

03-05-2006 10:13 PM

[URL=http://scca.org/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=249]RESULTS are up[/URL]

Congrats KC...

z3coupe

03-05-2006 11:21 PM

Could not make it, thank to being laid off at work (outsourcing, UGH!), so was not able to be there for KC to drive my car - and boy did I want to see what he could have done with it!

But WOW! Looking at the results, it seems that the BMW's might dominate STU. Giving them up to 275 tires might be a mistake, and most are using 265's. No ifs ands or buts, the //M3 is a fantastic car.

Looks like Yokohama is the tire to have (and I DO, yipeeeeee).

Seeing as I have yet to beat Max or Mark, doubt I would have done well - but who knows what KC might have been able to do in my car :(

Well, congrats to ALL the tropy winners though!

GEARHEAD23

03-06-2006 12:40 AM

edited

crystalhelix

03-06-2006 08:24 AM

Not much action in BSP?

Scooby South

03-06-2006 08:37 AM

[QUOTE=crystalhelix]Not much action in BSP?[/QUOTE]

Cept for Bob Tunnel...but your right...not much going on there...same for SM.....interestingly enough...

Bill

crystalhelix

03-06-2006 08:43 AM

[QUOTE=Scooby South]Cept for Bob Tunnel...but your right...not much going on there...same for SM.....interestingly enough...

Bill[/QUOTE]

I did see that the Tunnels were there. I think there will be more BSP involvemnt as the year goes on though.

Congrats KC on the win.

Justin

buzz313th

03-06-2006 08:49 AM

Yeah, Congrats KC.

I wish I had seen your runs.

JB

makofoto

03-06-2006 12:04 PM

Rita Wilsey has moved to SS

KC	03-06-2006 12:47 PM

More when I get home... but here's a video from Matt Kogans co-driver in car. :) [url]http://www.cpdserver.com/chasecam/video/autox/2006sdtour-spin.wmv[/url]

BlkWRXWag

03-06-2006 01:05 PM

Ha - that's a great video.

PKer	03-06-2006 01:13 PM

Good stuff, I had a great time even though I am disappointed with the result. It was a real eye opener. My son is never going to let me live down the fact that Mom has a 1st place NT trophy but dad has nothing.

Congrats KC nice meeting you in real life, congrats on your win.

makofoto

03-06-2006 01:17 PM

Photos when I get caught up

buzz313th

03-06-2006 01:28 PM

Not bad KC..... even with the gimp hand.

Steve Oblenes and Mike Simanyi were absolutely on fire in STU, unfortunately they were in BMW's. The STI's definately have to start playing catch up.

Very cool event. Alec drove very well. His car seems to really get up and go.

It was an honor to have Sorter drive my car, I got some good feedback from him. I'm glad he didn't say the car sucked.

JB

buzz313th

03-06-2006 01:35 PM

Oh yeah...

Max... I saw Fran the bartender later on, she asked why you wouldn't come talk to her?

:lol: :banana:

JB

BlkWRXWag

03-06-2006 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=buzz313th]Oh yeah...

Max... I saw Fran the bartender later on, she asked why you wouldn't come talk to her?

:lol: :banana:

JB[/QUOTE]

I couldn't afford her!

buzz313th

03-06-2006 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag]I couldn't afford her![/QUOTE]

;)

JB

DrBiggly

03-06-2006 01:42 PM

That course looks like a lot of fun from the video. :)

buzz313th

03-06-2006 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=DrBiggly]That course looks like a lot of fun from the video. :)[/QUOTE]

It was.

It was really interesting seeing the SCCA National staff measuring the course with a tape friday morning. The course was definately under the magnifying glass. Funny thing though..... I coulda swore I was going faster than 45mph in the wiggles on Saturdays uphill section and Sundays downhill section. Maybe they don't consider wiggles to be turns. :confused: ;)

JB

MrDestructo

03-06-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=KC]More when I get home... but here's a video from Matt Kogans co-driver in car. :) [url="http://www.cpdserver.com/chasecam/video/autox/2006sdtour-spin.wmv"]http://www.cpdserver.com/chasecam/video/autox/2006sdtour-spin.wmv[/url][/QUOTE]

Well I wasn't there to see it myself, however that finish didn't seem very safe to me. it was way too fast, especially with that right-left manuver at full throttle. The person sliding around in the video could have easily slid into that giant pole to the right of the finish area (maybe ~20ft away). I've never seen a course with at that rate of speed at the finish...

PKer	03-06-2006 02:54 PM

There were no incidents, so everything is fine. I don't think there is a need to raise the unsafe course alarm.

DrBiggly

03-06-2006 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=MrDestructo]Well I wasn't there to see it myself, however that finish didn't seem very safe to me. it was way too fast, especially with that right-left manuver at full throttle. The person sliding around in the video could have easily slid into that giant pole to the right of the finish area (maybe ~20ft away). I've never seen a course with at that rate of speed at the finish...[/QUOTE]
Here is pretty much the golden rule about autox course safety: If you weren't there and did not drive it, you are not qualified to comment. :)

-Biggly

DougM

03-06-2006 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=buzz313th]Alec drove very well.[/QUOTE]

he does that ;)

the car is owned by Garrett Bickerdike, whom we're also proud of (for trophying in 5th).

:)

MrDestructo

03-06-2006 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=DrBiggly]Here is pretty much the golden rule about autox course safety: If you weren't there and did not drive it, you are not qualified to comment. :)

-Biggly[/QUOTE]

I've seen the video, that's enough for me. I haven't seen that rule anywhere...:D

cooleyjb

03-06-2006 06:12 PM

holy sea of cones batman. they could've gotten by with a few less cones for the corner workers to deal with.

as for the course the only thing I didn't like is that stupid turn at the start. Why the heck to people think it's fun to put a turn 10 feet from the start line. The rest of the course look REAL fun.

solo-x

03-06-2006 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=MrDestructo]I've seen the video, that's enough for me. I haven't seen that rule anywhere...:D[/QUOTE]

video doesn't give the same depth perception as you'd have in real life. the lot the event was held on has a lot more camber/elevation change then you can see in that video too. true, the finish did encourage spins, but the pole was not a safety issue. SD region does a great job keeping things safe and quiet. and they used grown up cones!!!!

nate

solo-x

03-06-2006 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=cooleyjb]holy sea of cones batman. they could've gotten by with a few less cones for the corner workers to deal with.

as for the course the only thing I didn't like is that stupid turn at the start. Why the heck to people think it's fun to put a turn 10 feet from the start line. The rest of the course look REAL fun.[/QUOTE]

what's sad is that they WERE using fewer cones. when i went to the tour a couple of years ago it was worse then that and a lot of cones were half size migdet cones. talk about tough to see!

nate

cooleyjb

03-06-2006 06:38 PM

Just finished reading the SccaForums thread about the tour. A few well respected names said that the finish was not the safest in the world. Too fast too close to people and inanimate objects.

Scary that that is LESS cones that before.

Draken

03-06-2006 06:43 PM

ChrisW

03-06-2006 07:45 PM

solo2wrx

03-06-2006 10:07 PM

[QUOTE=cooleyjb]Just finished reading the SccaForums thread about the tour. A few well respected names said that the finish was not the safest in the world. Too fast too close to people and inanimate objects.

Scary that that is LESS cones that before.[/QUOTE]

I will agree that the finish did not look to be the safest in the world, it also did not look overly unsafe. I have run several courses over the last several years with finishes that are not very safe for either competitors or spectators or even the timing van. The too close to people portion can always be changed by moving the spectators or a courseworker station. The inanimate objects have to be worked around and I will agree that sometimes a course gets too close to a curb or light pole but that course did not look to be too dangerous to run on.

cooleyjb

03-06-2006 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=solo2wrx]I will agree that the finish did not look to be the safest in the world, it also did not look overly unsafe. I have run several courses over the last several years with finishes that are not very safe for either competitors or spectators or even the timing van. The too close to people portion can always be changed by moving the spectators or a courseworker station. The inanimate objects have to be worked around and I will agree that sometimes a course gets too close to a curb or light pole but that course did not look to be too dangerous to run on.[/QUOTE]

With the dwindling number of sites in the world I have run on many that are much less safe than the one at SD. As long as there is nothing that affects the time of run that is after the finish I'm usually happy. I dislike stopboxes that cause you to hit the brakes before the finish. As for the SD I probably wouldn't have thought too much about it beyond it being really quick and sea of cones.

makofoto

03-07-2006 11:30 AM

Photos from the Tour ... mainly Team Blew and friends ... more STU shots to come. I thought I had a bunch of shots of KC driving ... but I got the wrong Miata! No wonder I can't "see" the right line either.

[url]http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/solo_ii/san_diego_national/[/url]

Course Map with 100' scale ... you can see that there was plenty of room.

[IMG]http://images16.fotki.com/v280/photos/4/43793/3302187/CourseMap-vi.jpg[/IMG]

Sideshowbob

03-07-2006 11:47 AM

Based on that course map, it looks like the course gets waaaay to close to some sand, some toxic waste, some water, some orange juice and some grass. I am complaining to Congress.

<--bench course criticizer

makofoto

03-07-2006 11:49 AM

Some of the pot holes have been fixed ... new ones pop up of course. Lot is going to be turned into apartments/mall eventually so they are lax on maintenance.

[IMG]http://images16.fotki.com/v277/photos/4/43793/3302187/Qualcommstadiumnoborders-vi.jpg[/IMG]

frostyTSM

03-07-2006 11:59 AM

I wasn't at the Tour, but I'm an SD-Region member.

I don't know how I've managed to not hit any of those pot holes (they have actually been on the course on the best line... maybe it's since I don't drive the best line :lol: ).

There was a video posted of someone doing a run in a BMW: [url]http://www.sdsolo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204[/url]

KC	03-07-2006 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=makofoto]Photos from the Tour ... mainly Team Blew and friends ... more STU shots to come. I thought I had a bunch of shots of KC driving ... but I got the wrong Miata! No wonder I can't "see" the right line either.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because I wasn't even driving a Miata? You really do need to get your eyes checked. :lol:

(Red FC RX-7 #161 STS2)

--kC

makofoto

03-07-2006 12:55 PM

That's very funny! NOT! :huh: :banana:

ratt_finkel

03-07-2006 01:08 PM

Sweet pics!

abaxter34

03-07-2006 01:19 PM

somebody needs to take the welder away from this guy.
[IMG]http://images16.fotki.com/v279/photos/4/43793/3302187/KieselXhaust-vi.jpg[/IMG]

CamaroFS34

03-07-2006 01:51 PM

I'm guessing that was added in order to meet the sound requirements....

Otherwise, Kiesel's car is [i]sweet[/i].

abaxter34

03-07-2006 02:24 PM

thats what i figured too. desperate measures for desperate....

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