| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 04:30 PM |
The ride5000 $5 DIY Boxer Rumble exhaust mod
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Howdy everyone!
I was hit to this mod by member ride5000. It's cheap and easy. I thought it would be fun to put together a quick how-to for this mod, as there have numerous threads over the last month or so on axle-back straight pipes and so on.
The ride5000 $5 DIY Boxer Rumble exhaust mod is the creation of an exhaust leak to get more 'boxer' sound out of the exhaust without replacing or removing any of the main components of the exhaust system. The gasket between the mid-pipe and the axle-back assembly will be removed, and the nuts and bolts used to hold the mid-pipe and the axle-back together will be replaced. This mod is geared towards the person who would like to get more sound out of their mostly stock exhaust setup, but who does not have the $$ to purchase an axle-back or cat-back setup.
Advantages:[list][*]Easy to do[*]Inexpensive[*]Retains stock look so the po-po shouldn't pull you over on looks alone[*]Completely and easily reversible if you do get hassled by the man[*]Unleashes raw boxer sound[*]Emits burbles and pops liek a real race car! (sort of)[*]Sort of loud[*]Psychological effect of making you feel the car is faster or cooler[/list]Disadvantages:[list][*]Sort of loud[*]No power gains[*]Wife does not like it because it reminds her of her Mom's unreliable and loud car that broke down all the time when she was a kid.[/list]
First, remove the two bolts and nuts that hold the mid-pipe and axle-back together. Separate the two pipes carefully in hopes of keeping the gasket between them in one piece. Set the gasket aside for possible use again someday. Next, take the bolts to a hardware store. Look for bolts that are roughly the same size, but longer. When you have the bolts, pick up 10-12 flat washers, 2 split lock washers, and 2 nuts. I chose all stainless steel hardware, and the nuts and bolts I got are 14mm just like the OEM nuts and bolts.
But wait, you said remove the bolts, and then go to the hardware store?!? But what about the loose axle-back assembly? A-ha. Here's what I did - I removed the axle-back assembly from the car for the trip to the hardware store. This will give you an idea of the volume you'll have to contend with after you complete the mod (although the total removal of the axle-back is a little louder than with the ride5000 mod in place, IMO).
When you get back home, back your car up on a set of ramps, and re-hang your axle-back. Bolt the mid-pipe and the axle-back together with your new hardware, but in place of the gasket, install a few washers. I started with 4 washers per bolt between the two pipes, but now I am running 3 per bolt. The 3 bolts is possibly maybe approximately 1/2 a decibel quieter than the 4, but then again, maybe it isn't. When I first did the mod, I used 4 washers in between, but then read that ride5000 used 3, so that is why I'm running 3.
Driving Impressions and Such-
I first did this mod in early December. I reversed the mod later in the month for a trip to the dealership for some routine maintenance. It has been too cold here since then, and not conducive to laying around on the garage floor. But yesterday was warmer, so I again performed the mod. Today I drove to the store with all the windows down. Because of the location of the mod underneath the car, one has an impression that they have a side exhaust outlet. Upon hard acceleration, it almost seems as though the sound gets a little quieter as one approaches redline. With the windows down, the wind noise overpowers the exhaust sound by the time you hit 3rd gear.
PICS!!
Before (with new hardware holding pipes in stock configuration with gasket):
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod02.jpg[/IMG]
After:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod04.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod05.jpg[/IMG]
Not much to it. Again, it is completely and easily reversible. If you don't have the cash for the real deal, try this. If the po-lice give you a hard time, just say, "Yes officer, I have an exhaust leak. I've been meaning to get that taken care of." But if you think about it, this mod does not make you car any louder than that rust bucket Pontiac 6000 POS that you see around town that has been without a cat-back for 6 years!
Enjoy!
I was hit to this mod by member ride5000. It's cheap and easy. I thought it would be fun to put together a quick how-to for this mod, as there have numerous threads over the last month or so on axle-back straight pipes and so on.
The ride5000 $5 DIY Boxer Rumble exhaust mod is the creation of an exhaust leak to get more 'boxer' sound out of the exhaust without replacing or removing any of the main components of the exhaust system. The gasket between the mid-pipe and the axle-back assembly will be removed, and the nuts and bolts used to hold the mid-pipe and the axle-back together will be replaced. This mod is geared towards the person who would like to get more sound out of their mostly stock exhaust setup, but who does not have the $$ to purchase an axle-back or cat-back setup.
Advantages:[list][*]Easy to do[*]Inexpensive[*]Retains stock look so the po-po shouldn't pull you over on looks alone[*]Completely and easily reversible if you do get hassled by the man[*]Unleashes raw boxer sound[*]Emits burbles and pops liek a real race car! (sort of)[*]Sort of loud[*]Psychological effect of making you feel the car is faster or cooler[/list]Disadvantages:[list][*]Sort of loud[*]No power gains[*]Wife does not like it because it reminds her of her Mom's unreliable and loud car that broke down all the time when she was a kid.[/list]
First, remove the two bolts and nuts that hold the mid-pipe and axle-back together. Separate the two pipes carefully in hopes of keeping the gasket between them in one piece. Set the gasket aside for possible use again someday. Next, take the bolts to a hardware store. Look for bolts that are roughly the same size, but longer. When you have the bolts, pick up 10-12 flat washers, 2 split lock washers, and 2 nuts. I chose all stainless steel hardware, and the nuts and bolts I got are 14mm just like the OEM nuts and bolts.
But wait, you said remove the bolts, and then go to the hardware store?!? But what about the loose axle-back assembly? A-ha. Here's what I did - I removed the axle-back assembly from the car for the trip to the hardware store. This will give you an idea of the volume you'll have to contend with after you complete the mod (although the total removal of the axle-back is a little louder than with the ride5000 mod in place, IMO).
When you get back home, back your car up on a set of ramps, and re-hang your axle-back. Bolt the mid-pipe and the axle-back together with your new hardware, but in place of the gasket, install a few washers. I started with 4 washers per bolt between the two pipes, but now I am running 3 per bolt. The 3 bolts is possibly maybe approximately 1/2 a decibel quieter than the 4, but then again, maybe it isn't. When I first did the mod, I used 4 washers in between, but then read that ride5000 used 3, so that is why I'm running 3.
Driving Impressions and Such-
I first did this mod in early December. I reversed the mod later in the month for a trip to the dealership for some routine maintenance. It has been too cold here since then, and not conducive to laying around on the garage floor. But yesterday was warmer, so I again performed the mod. Today I drove to the store with all the windows down. Because of the location of the mod underneath the car, one has an impression that they have a side exhaust outlet. Upon hard acceleration, it almost seems as though the sound gets a little quieter as one approaches redline. With the windows down, the wind noise overpowers the exhaust sound by the time you hit 3rd gear.
PICS!!
Before (with new hardware holding pipes in stock configuration with gasket):
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod02.jpg[/IMG]
After:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod04.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000mod05.jpg[/IMG]
Not much to it. Again, it is completely and easily reversible. If you don't have the cash for the real deal, try this. If the po-lice give you a hard time, just say, "Yes officer, I have an exhaust leak. I've been meaning to get that taken care of." But if you think about it, this mod does not make you car any louder than that rust bucket Pontiac 6000 POS that you see around town that has been without a cat-back for 6 years!
Enjoy!
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 04:31 PM |
More pics-
Me and car before:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000B4.jpg[/IMG]
Me and car after:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride50004ftr.jpg[/IMG]
Me and car before:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride5000B4.jpg[/IMG]
Me and car after:
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/_hikeeba_/ride50004ftr.jpg[/IMG]
| szeny | 01-15-2006 04:35 PM |
you look very happy with the results in the second picture
| WRXSIG | 01-15-2006 05:16 PM |
damn dude...no offense, but thats ghetto as all hell.
heres what $120 custom one looks like. Sounds beautiful, comments and props from citizens and police alike. And its not a cobb job.
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/WRXSIG112/AAphotoexhaust.jpg[/IMG]
heres what $120 custom one looks like. Sounds beautiful, comments and props from citizens and police alike. And its not a cobb job.
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/WRXSIG112/AAphotoexhaust.jpg[/IMG]
| JustinWRC | 01-15-2006 05:24 PM |
you have to be kidding right you can buy a wrx but cant afford a few bucks on a "louder" muffler give me a break at least just hollow out the cats, mufflers somthing with the exhaust leaking like that under the hatch area and on a wagon its worse just has to sound terrible im sorry but this has to be one of the worse idea's i have seen in awhile :lol: .... i hope this was all just a joke and if so forget my post :eek:
| Impr3zy0u | 01-15-2006 08:12 PM |
hahaha are you serious.
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 08:50 PM |
[QUOTE=JustinWRC]you have to be kidding right you can buy a wrx but cant afford a few bucks on a "louder" muffler give me a break at least just hollow out the cats, mufflers somthing with the exhaust leaking like that under the hatch area and on a wagon its worse just has to sound terrible im sorry but this has to be one of the worse idea's i have seen in awhile :lol: .... i hope this was all just a joke and if so forget my post :eek:[/QUOTE]
Holy run-on sentence Batman! Not everyone on this board can afford to buy whatever parts they want for their car. Being married, a home owner, and in the middle of adopting a child, cha-ching is a little tight. Besides, maybe I'm in the situation where I can just barely afford the car. You don't know me, Dawg! Or maybe I'd rather save my money and spend it on items that will really make a difference, like suspension and/or brake items. Besides, someone has to stand up for the little guy out there who has been driving a stock car and wants to do something to it, but is having trouble coming up with the donuts.
Ghetto as all hell? You betcha! I'm not coming at you JustinWRC. Just realize that there are different strokes for different folks. I'd love to have an 80 gazillion dollar JDM HID headlight setup, but I can't afford it, so I did the DIY mod. I'd love to have real STi mesh foglight covers, but I got the knock-offs because that's all I could afford after replacing the 2nd smashed foglight assembly. Maybe I couldn't afford lowering springs -- oh wait, I did get those. Anyway, I try to watch the $$ I allocate to the car. Sure, If I campaign hard for car parts, I could probably get them. But with this adoption thing going on, and not knowing when exactly we're going to have to shell out another multi-thousand dollar payment, I'm trying to watch my Ps and Qs and have fun with the car at the same time. Tell me that cheap + easy does not + fun.
[QUOTE=Impr3zy0u]hahaha are you serious.[/QUOTE]
As serious as a heart attack.
WRXSIG - Looks nice, and it looks like you got a good price. Buttsecks? Just kidding! I looked into an axle-back straight pipe. I got 3 estimates: Two at custom exhaust shops, and one at Meineke (?). The lowest price I got for a custom axle-back straight pipe was $100. Welcome to WI.
Again, this wasn't my idea. I'm just bringing the idea to the people.
Holy run-on sentence Batman! Not everyone on this board can afford to buy whatever parts they want for their car. Being married, a home owner, and in the middle of adopting a child, cha-ching is a little tight. Besides, maybe I'm in the situation where I can just barely afford the car. You don't know me, Dawg! Or maybe I'd rather save my money and spend it on items that will really make a difference, like suspension and/or brake items. Besides, someone has to stand up for the little guy out there who has been driving a stock car and wants to do something to it, but is having trouble coming up with the donuts.
Ghetto as all hell? You betcha! I'm not coming at you JustinWRC. Just realize that there are different strokes for different folks. I'd love to have an 80 gazillion dollar JDM HID headlight setup, but I can't afford it, so I did the DIY mod. I'd love to have real STi mesh foglight covers, but I got the knock-offs because that's all I could afford after replacing the 2nd smashed foglight assembly. Maybe I couldn't afford lowering springs -- oh wait, I did get those. Anyway, I try to watch the $$ I allocate to the car. Sure, If I campaign hard for car parts, I could probably get them. But with this adoption thing going on, and not knowing when exactly we're going to have to shell out another multi-thousand dollar payment, I'm trying to watch my Ps and Qs and have fun with the car at the same time. Tell me that cheap + easy does not + fun.
[QUOTE=Impr3zy0u]hahaha are you serious.[/QUOTE]
As serious as a heart attack.
WRXSIG - Looks nice, and it looks like you got a good price. Buttsecks? Just kidding! I looked into an axle-back straight pipe. I got 3 estimates: Two at custom exhaust shops, and one at Meineke (?). The lowest price I got for a custom axle-back straight pipe was $100. Welcome to WI.
Again, this wasn't my idea. I'm just bringing the idea to the people.
| THAWA | 01-15-2006 08:59 PM |
Not everyone likes to have an angled fart can sticking out of their car. Big ups for keeping the twin tips! Such an elitist attitude around here.
| Rallycarperson | 01-15-2006 08:59 PM |
:huh:
This is freakin hilarious. Not only is this pointless, but it will probably give no and probably less HP, because you are disrupting the exhaust flow. You have a $24k car and you can't even afford an axleback?
~Mark
This is freakin hilarious. Not only is this pointless, but it will probably give no and probably less HP, because you are disrupting the exhaust flow. You have a $24k car and you can't even afford an axleback?
~Mark
| WRXSIG | 01-15-2006 09:04 PM |
[QUOTE=THAWA]Not everyone likes to have an angled fart can sticking out of their car. Big ups for keeping the twin tips! Such an elitist attitude around here.[/QUOTE]
where'd you get that attitude? at the toilet store?
where'd you get that attitude? at the toilet store?
| Hondaslayer | 01-15-2006 09:05 PM |
So basically you created an exhaust leak right next to your gastank, correct?
| njskatchmo | 01-15-2006 09:07 PM |
+1 for hikeeba for remaining calm and defending himself
-1 for exhaust leak near flammable liquids... boooo
-1 for exhaust leak near flammable liquids... boooo
| DLUX WRX | 01-15-2006 09:11 PM |
:shakes head:
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 09:13 PM |
Thanks THAWA!
[QUOTE=Rallycarperson]:huh:
This is freakin hilarious. Not only is this pointless, but it will probably give no and probably less HP, because you are disrupting the exhaust flow. You have a $24k car and you can't even afford an axleback?
~Mark[/QUOTE]
The gap is small enough that I still get plenty of flow through the muffler and out the tailpipes. And not pointless. The car sounds different; louder, amybe sportier. Therefor is 'feels' sportier. It's a psyche mod, meaning it has a psychological effect on the own3r/driver. No HP gain, but no HP loss, either.
I love how everyone equates the fact that the WRX new was around $24K, and therefor anyone who owns one should be able to afford whatever mods they want. Not everyone has a sweet gig and pulls down lots of cash. Likewise, not every lives responsibly within their financial means. Maybe finding a used WRX that one could barely afford fulfilled a dream that started in 1998 when the first Gran Turismo game came out for PSOne. Maybe I'm mildly retarded and this is a big deal mod for me. Maybe I live int he car, and I just park it in my sister's driveway for pics. Maybe it's not my car, but I pretend it is because I'm a little off-camber ever since I dropped a big rock on my head when I was in 4th grade. Maybe I'm making all of this up and I certainly could afford an axle- or cat-back, but I'd rather prove a point by pushing ghetto mods...
[QUOTE=Rallycarperson]:huh:
This is freakin hilarious. Not only is this pointless, but it will probably give no and probably less HP, because you are disrupting the exhaust flow. You have a $24k car and you can't even afford an axleback?
~Mark[/QUOTE]
The gap is small enough that I still get plenty of flow through the muffler and out the tailpipes. And not pointless. The car sounds different; louder, amybe sportier. Therefor is 'feels' sportier. It's a psyche mod, meaning it has a psychological effect on the own3r/driver. No HP gain, but no HP loss, either.
I love how everyone equates the fact that the WRX new was around $24K, and therefor anyone who owns one should be able to afford whatever mods they want. Not everyone has a sweet gig and pulls down lots of cash. Likewise, not every lives responsibly within their financial means. Maybe finding a used WRX that one could barely afford fulfilled a dream that started in 1998 when the first Gran Turismo game came out for PSOne. Maybe I'm mildly retarded and this is a big deal mod for me. Maybe I live int he car, and I just park it in my sister's driveway for pics. Maybe it's not my car, but I pretend it is because I'm a little off-camber ever since I dropped a big rock on my head when I was in 4th grade. Maybe I'm making all of this up and I certainly could afford an axle- or cat-back, but I'd rather prove a point by pushing ghetto mods...
| Hondaslayer | 01-15-2006 09:16 PM |
The problem is that it is an exhaust leak and does not sound "sporty" at all.
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 09:19 PM |
[QUOTE=njskatchmo]+1 for hikeeba for remaining calm and defending himself
-1 for exhaust leak near flammable liquids... boooo[/QUOTE]
Regarding the junction in question being directly below the fuel tank, I would not have attempted this mod if I didn't do lots of research via the [B]search[/B] function and sent numerous PMs to people who have been running without an axle-back for months upon months. One guy had been running without an axle-back for at least a year, and he's not all blowed up yet. Yet.
-1 for exhaust leak near flammable liquids... boooo[/QUOTE]
Regarding the junction in question being directly below the fuel tank, I would not have attempted this mod if I didn't do lots of research via the [B]search[/B] function and sent numerous PMs to people who have been running without an axle-back for months upon months. One guy had been running without an axle-back for at least a year, and he's not all blowed up yet. Yet.
| Rallycarperson | 01-15-2006 09:24 PM |
[QUOTE=hikeeba]Thanks THAWA!
The gap is small enough that I still get plenty of flow through the muffler and out the tailpipes. And not pointless. The car sounds different; louder, amybe sportier. Therefor is 'feels' sportier. It's a psyche mod, meaning it has a psychological effect on the own3r/driver. No HP gain, but no HP loss, either.
I love how everyone equates the fact that the WRX new was around $24K, and therefor anyone who owns one should be able to afford whatever mods they want. Not everyone has a sweet gig and pulls down lots of cash. Likewise, not every lives responsibly within their financial means. Maybe finding a used WRX that one could barely afford fulfilled a dream that started in 1998 when the first Gran Turismo game came out for PSOne. Maybe I'm mildly retarded and this is a big deal mod for me. Maybe I live int he car, and I just park it in my sister's driveway for pics. Maybe it's not my car, but I pretend it is because I'm a little off-camber ever since I dropped a big rock on my head when I was in 4th grade. Maybe I'm making all of this up and I certainly could afford an axle- or cat-back, but I'd rather prove a point by pushing ghetto mods...[/QUOTE]
Dude Im 15 and I think thats pointless. And even I can afford a $100 axleback.
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark
The gap is small enough that I still get plenty of flow through the muffler and out the tailpipes. And not pointless. The car sounds different; louder, amybe sportier. Therefor is 'feels' sportier. It's a psyche mod, meaning it has a psychological effect on the own3r/driver. No HP gain, but no HP loss, either.
I love how everyone equates the fact that the WRX new was around $24K, and therefor anyone who owns one should be able to afford whatever mods they want. Not everyone has a sweet gig and pulls down lots of cash. Likewise, not every lives responsibly within their financial means. Maybe finding a used WRX that one could barely afford fulfilled a dream that started in 1998 when the first Gran Turismo game came out for PSOne. Maybe I'm mildly retarded and this is a big deal mod for me. Maybe I live int he car, and I just park it in my sister's driveway for pics. Maybe it's not my car, but I pretend it is because I'm a little off-camber ever since I dropped a big rock on my head when I was in 4th grade. Maybe I'm making all of this up and I certainly could afford an axle- or cat-back, but I'd rather prove a point by pushing ghetto mods...[/QUOTE]
Dude Im 15 and I think thats pointless. And even I can afford a $100 axleback.
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 09:25 PM |
[QUOTE=hondaslayer]The problem is that it is an exhaust leak and does not sound "sporty" at all.[/QUOTE]
Well, it Doesn't sound like the exhaust leaks I had due to rusted-through pipes on my past Accord and Civic, either.
I referred the the mod as a 'leak' because that is what it really is. If you use 1 or 2 wahsers, it has been reported that you will get the pfffff exhaust leak sound that sound like lame. Using 3-4 washer per bolt, you are getting more raw boxer sound than anything. Similar to running without an axle-back.
And sprty is just a frame of mind. Fine, it doesn't sound sporty. It sounds boxer rumbly loud, and I like it for now. In 5 minutes, I can undo it. Five minutes later, I can do it up again. No big deal.
Well, it Doesn't sound like the exhaust leaks I had due to rusted-through pipes on my past Accord and Civic, either.
I referred the the mod as a 'leak' because that is what it really is. If you use 1 or 2 wahsers, it has been reported that you will get the pfffff exhaust leak sound that sound like lame. Using 3-4 washer per bolt, you are getting more raw boxer sound than anything. Similar to running without an axle-back.
And sprty is just a frame of mind. Fine, it doesn't sound sporty. It sounds boxer rumbly loud, and I like it for now. In 5 minutes, I can undo it. Five minutes later, I can do it up again. No big deal.
| hikeeba | 01-15-2006 09:34 PM |
[QUOTE=Rallycarperson]Dude Im 15 and I think thats pointless. And even I can afford a $100 axleback.
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark[/QUOTE]
Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]!
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark[/QUOTE]
Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]!
| Rallycarperson | 01-15-2006 09:43 PM |
[QUOTE=hikeeba]Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).[/QUOTE]
Are you done venting yet?? Fine, I may not fully understand [i]those[/i] things yet, but I [i]do [/i]understand what a real modification is, and I [i]do [/i]know the definition of a useful thread.
~Mark
Are you done venting yet?? Fine, I may not fully understand [i]those[/i] things yet, but I [i]do [/i]understand what a real modification is, and I [i]do [/i]know the definition of a useful thread.
~Mark
| iofdetiger | 01-15-2006 09:50 PM |
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| Siper2 | 01-15-2006 09:50 PM |
I'd suggest you all chill out before this whole thing gets deleted....
Now then:
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]damn dude...no offense, but thats ghetto as all hell.
heres what $120 custom one looks like. Sounds beautiful, comments and props from citizens and police alike. And its not a cobb job.
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/WRXSIG112/AAphotoexhaust.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I don't like the idea started by the original poster either, but.. I've never really liked crooked-hanging mufflers, such as yours. Not to whiz in anyone's Cheerios.
:D
=S2=
Now then:
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]damn dude...no offense, but thats ghetto as all hell.
heres what $120 custom one looks like. Sounds beautiful, comments and props from citizens and police alike. And its not a cobb job.
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/WRXSIG112/AAphotoexhaust.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I don't like the idea started by the original poster either, but.. I've never really liked crooked-hanging mufflers, such as yours. Not to whiz in anyone's Cheerios.
:D
=S2=
| Hondaslayer | 01-15-2006 09:52 PM |
[QUOTE=Siper2]I'd suggest you all chill out before this whole thing gets deleted....
Now then:
I don't like the idea started by the original poster either, but.. I've never really liked crooked-hanging mufflers, such as yours. Not to whiz in anyone's Cheerios.
:D
=S2=[/QUOTE]
There is supposedly a purpose to those crooked muffler though, one less bend in the exhaust system. I doubt it does much, but it is there for that reason.
Now then:
I don't like the idea started by the original poster either, but.. I've never really liked crooked-hanging mufflers, such as yours. Not to whiz in anyone's Cheerios.
:D
=S2=[/QUOTE]
There is supposedly a purpose to those crooked muffler though, one less bend in the exhaust system. I doubt it does much, but it is there for that reason.
| hondaeater69 | 01-15-2006 09:52 PM |
[QUOTE=hondaslayer]The problem is that it is an exhaust leak and does not sound "sporty" at all.[/QUOTE]
+eleventybillion. shoulda bought a honduh if you think an exhaust leak is sporty.
+eleventybillion. shoulda bought a honduh if you think an exhaust leak is sporty.
| hondaeater69 | 01-15-2006 09:58 PM |
[QUOTE=hondaslayer]There is supposedly a purpose to those crooked muffler though, one less bend in the exhaust system. I doubt it does much, but it is there for that reason.[/QUOTE]
I always figured the reason for the bend was rice boys that bought generic muffs that just didn't line up properly. Though your theory does make sense in theory.
I always figured the reason for the bend was rice boys that bought generic muffs that just didn't line up properly. Though your theory does make sense in theory.
| MannyMohawk#5 | 01-15-2006 09:58 PM |
As ghetto as this mod is, I 'd take it over the lame angled honda exhaust.
| Predwolf | 01-15-2006 10:01 PM |
[QUOTE=hikeeba]Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]![/QUOTE]
Dude...
Seriously, dude.
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]![/QUOTE]
Dude...
Seriously, dude.
| Rallycarperson | 01-15-2006 10:03 PM |
[QUOTE=hondaslayer]There is supposedly a purpose to those crooked muffler though, one less bend in the exhaust system. I doubt it does much, but it is there for that reason.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it started out like 10 years ago in Japanese N1 races with those coffeecans. And I guess today APC got notified of that. *gasp*
~Mark
Yeah, it started out like 10 years ago in Japanese N1 races with those coffeecans. And I guess today APC got notified of that. *gasp*
~Mark
| Anub1s | 01-15-2006 10:08 PM |
[QUOTE=hikeeba]Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).
And it is a [b]controlled[/b] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [b]A modification[/b]![/QUOTE]
Dude, WT.F?
All I have to say to this thread is....wow....simply...wow.
And it is a [b]controlled[/b] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [b]A modification[/b]![/QUOTE]
Dude, WT.F?
All I have to say to this thread is....wow....simply...wow.
| Damien | 01-15-2006 10:15 PM |
I hope your fellow EMT brethren cannot rescue you when your WRX is alight and you're screaming for help... I also pray that you don't pass emissions in Southeastern Wisconsin...
-Damien
-Damien
| Davenow | 01-15-2006 10:16 PM |
loud and sounds like crap
Still means your car sounds like crap.
Still means your car sounds like crap.
| bl_easy | 01-15-2006 10:17 PM |
... :huh:
| aspenw06sti | 01-15-2006 10:17 PM |
why dont you all get the genome and chil out
| chapstien | 01-15-2006 10:23 PM |
As far as i am concerned, do what you like to your car. Did you consider the possibility of poison gas filling your cabin with your baby in the car? If you are comfortable with what you did, have fun.
| Skreekin | 01-15-2006 10:31 PM |
[QUOTE=chapstien]As far as i am concerned, do what you like to your car. Did you consider the possibility of poison gas filling your cabin with your baby in the car? If you are comfortable with what you did, have fun.[/QUOTE]
+1
IMHO this is a very bad idea. Exhaust gases are bad for you, and even with such a small gap, some of those gases will end up inside your car. I don't have a problem with people modding their cars, even if its the cheaper way. Be smart, hook up your exhaust the right way, save up the money and do the exhaust properly. If you look around I am sure that you can find someone that is willing to trade an axelback exhaust for cheap and you can put it on yourself. I think thats the better way to go.
+1
IMHO this is a very bad idea. Exhaust gases are bad for you, and even with such a small gap, some of those gases will end up inside your car. I don't have a problem with people modding their cars, even if its the cheaper way. Be smart, hook up your exhaust the right way, save up the money and do the exhaust properly. If you look around I am sure that you can find someone that is willing to trade an axelback exhaust for cheap and you can put it on yourself. I think thats the better way to go.
| KAX | 01-15-2006 10:55 PM |
check ebay, check the classifieds of the forum. you can get an axleback for cheap, probably the same price as all those washers you bought. I understand it makes you feel good because your exhaust is sporty. but that light-headed feeling your going to get when the carbon monoxide gets into your car wont feel so good. Save up some change from everyday and in a couple of months you could probably buy a real exhaust. its not hard.
| Wiscon_Mark | 01-15-2006 10:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Damien]I hope your fellow EMT brethren cannot rescue you when your WRX is alight and you're screaming for help... I also pray that you don't pass emissions in Southeastern Wisconsin...
-Damien[/QUOTE]
Wisconsin doesn't have emissions testing...
Hey, if you want a slightly louder exhaust, I've got a free mod for you:
Remove the intake piping from the fender (pre-airbox), it'll give you a deeper exhaust note at 3/4 to full throttle.
But please don't do this, this is a very bad idea. Nobody is pointing this out for absolutely no reason, there is a very grounded reason why you shouldn't do this.
-Damien[/QUOTE]
Wisconsin doesn't have emissions testing...
Hey, if you want a slightly louder exhaust, I've got a free mod for you:
Remove the intake piping from the fender (pre-airbox), it'll give you a deeper exhaust note at 3/4 to full throttle.
But please don't do this, this is a very bad idea. Nobody is pointing this out for absolutely no reason, there is a very grounded reason why you shouldn't do this.
| joehack98 | 01-15-2006 11:04 PM |
is this a joke?
| Redline927 | 01-15-2006 11:09 PM |
[QUOTE=hikeeba]Dude, I'm sorry you think it's pointless, kinda like me discussing this with a 15 y/o. Dude, you can't even legally drive yet. Dude, you're not a home owner or married yet. Dude, you don't even know what 'getting the most bang-for-you-buck' really means. Dude, you don't know what it's like to quit your decent job when you are 30 years old and take a $12K hit in pay to go work for an up-and-coming company that you believe in. But I'm sure you can afford a $100 axle-back. Go ahead, get your $100 axle-back for (insert poster dream car here).
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]![/QUOTE]
DUDE, this is ghetto ass rice.
And it is a [B]controlled[/B] exhaust leak. A controlled leak that I created, and I can taketh away! I can play God with this exhasut leak! I have absolute control over whether it lives or dies, therefor I shall call it... [B]A modification[/B]![/QUOTE]
DUDE, this is ghetto ass rice.
| RHayes | 01-15-2006 11:14 PM |
Wow, what a cool suggestion. Will this work on my car? (jk)
To be serious, it is a BAD idea to intentionally introduce an undercar exhaust leak...
The best case scenario has this setup spewing hot carbon on your underbody, and sounding like a bad exhaust leak (not sounding like a racecar)...
More likely, you will be experiencing a bit of lightheadedness on long drives.
Good luck with this "mod"... If you want my opinion, take a couple of dollars and go get yourself a new gasket.
To be serious, it is a BAD idea to intentionally introduce an undercar exhaust leak...
The best case scenario has this setup spewing hot carbon on your underbody, and sounding like a bad exhaust leak (not sounding like a racecar)...
More likely, you will be experiencing a bit of lightheadedness on long drives.
Good luck with this "mod"... If you want my opinion, take a couple of dollars and go get yourself a new gasket.
| Fitz12444 | 01-15-2006 11:20 PM |
id rather have a healthy child than a "sporty" exhaust note
| King Fish | 01-15-2006 11:24 PM |
[QUOTE=Rallycarperson]Dude Im 15 and I think thats pointless. And even I can afford a $100 axleback.
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark[/QUOTE]
mod�i�fi�ca�tion(md-f-kshn)
n.
The act of modifying or the condition of being modified.
A result of modifying.
A small alteration, adjustment, or limitation.
... Leave the guy alone ... why dont you guys go hassle the guys that run no axle back ... maybe he doesnt want to spend all his money into his car but still wants something different for a change... its his car his life let him life it... all he was doing was showing you guys a cheap alteritive trying to help others out and all you guys do is dog on him. :furious:
Its a freakin exhaust leak...not a mod!
~Mark[/QUOTE]
mod�i�fi�ca�tion(md-f-kshn)
n.
The act of modifying or the condition of being modified.
A result of modifying.
A small alteration, adjustment, or limitation.
... Leave the guy alone ... why dont you guys go hassle the guys that run no axle back ... maybe he doesnt want to spend all his money into his car but still wants something different for a change... its his car his life let him life it... all he was doing was showing you guys a cheap alteritive trying to help others out and all you guys do is dog on him. :furious:
| scooby_x | 01-15-2006 11:27 PM |
Go to a mufflershop and get an axle-back straight pipe for $50. It looks more factory than the factory exhaust does...ugly steel pipe = more factory than nice chrome tip. I agree that this is way cheaper, but you run into the problem that if you idle for too long you could get carbon monoxide poisoning although i think it would probably take like an hour idling with the windows up and a/c off. Its a good cheap mod, and a safe way to see what this boxer rumble that every one raves about sounds like.
| cyrilgrey | 01-15-2006 11:30 PM |
****ing imbecile.
| THAWA | 01-15-2006 11:32 PM |
[QUOTE=hondaslayer]There is supposedly a purpose to those crooked muffler though, one less bend in the exhaust system. I doubt it does much, but it is there for that reason.[/QUOTE]
There was a reason for all the crap on the s201, but it sure didn't make it look better :D
There was a reason for all the crap on the s201, but it sure didn't make it look better :D
| rexfan555 | 01-15-2006 11:38 PM |
:lol:
What a great thread!
What a great thread!
| Bishop | 01-15-2006 11:42 PM |
:lol: good god!! this is gonna be good.
| zer0_thirteen | 01-16-2006 12:16 AM |
hehe, the first time I hooked up my prodrive catback, i had an exhaust leak. I thought it sounded horrible, smelt funny, etc. Apparently, since I hadn't tightened on of the bolts properly, one had fallen out. I got two brand new bolts from a Subaru dealer ($3 dollars) and fixed it, and it sounded 100% better.
To each his own, but in my personal opinion, a leaky exhaust doesn't sound too great (and can smell funny..).
On a positive note, I thought the pictures you took were pretty good (sans the last two) and your description on how to do the "mod" was pretty good.
To each his own, but in my personal opinion, a leaky exhaust doesn't sound too great (and can smell funny..).
On a positive note, I thought the pictures you took were pretty good (sans the last two) and your description on how to do the "mod" was pretty good.
| RHayes | 01-16-2006 12:16 AM |
You know, if you take out the rear seat, it makes your car sound like a racecar... There is more road noise, the exhaust sounds louder and you can hear the turbo better. It also makes your car LOOK more like a race car too. (because race cars hardly ever have back seats)
| jsmonet | 01-16-2006 12:38 AM |
[QUOTE=MannyMohawk#5]As ghetto as this mod is, I 'd take it over the lame angled honda exhaust.[/QUOTE]
honda? are you high? it's simply an n1 ideal. the fewer bends, the better. take it for what you will, but it's nowhere near as common on hondas as it is on wrx's, let alone other non-honda cars. i love how common the idiotic honda-hate is here. every time something stupid shows up on the monitor an nasioc.com member blames honda.
please...please stop the stupidity. it's this kind of irrational crap that makes it soooo easy for EVERY other owners' group to make fun of you guys. i assume i'll soon see "i don't care, they drive stupid cars" pretty soon.
[quote]More likely, you will be experiencing a bit of lightheadedness on long drives.[/quote]
do you understand airflow at all? if the car is moving, the exhaust is moving. also, with 3 cats in place you can saddle up to your exhaust and sit there gasping as hard as you can, and not really get messed up. also, he has all 3 cats in place.
[quote]id rather have a healthy child than a "sporty" exhaust note[/quote]
once again, 3 cats... no problems. you act like 2.5 feet of restrictive hose makes any difference at all.
you people are freakin' hopeless.
this is all from the same site that gave us the square-tubing-gate-hinge harness bar.
this is a silly mod, but far from harmful. i'd never do it, and i would make ENDLESS fun of any friends of mine who did it until they put it back to stock or came up with a real exhaust, but that won't help here.
once again, this won't hurt anyone. there's a heat shield above that section and he's going to have a ton of soot on the undercarriage, but it's not going to do any harm. god... sometimes you people get sidetracked on the silliest things.
honda? are you high? it's simply an n1 ideal. the fewer bends, the better. take it for what you will, but it's nowhere near as common on hondas as it is on wrx's, let alone other non-honda cars. i love how common the idiotic honda-hate is here. every time something stupid shows up on the monitor an nasioc.com member blames honda.
please...please stop the stupidity. it's this kind of irrational crap that makes it soooo easy for EVERY other owners' group to make fun of you guys. i assume i'll soon see "i don't care, they drive stupid cars" pretty soon.
[quote]More likely, you will be experiencing a bit of lightheadedness on long drives.[/quote]
do you understand airflow at all? if the car is moving, the exhaust is moving. also, with 3 cats in place you can saddle up to your exhaust and sit there gasping as hard as you can, and not really get messed up. also, he has all 3 cats in place.
[quote]id rather have a healthy child than a "sporty" exhaust note[/quote]
once again, 3 cats... no problems. you act like 2.5 feet of restrictive hose makes any difference at all.
you people are freakin' hopeless.
this is all from the same site that gave us the square-tubing-gate-hinge harness bar.
this is a silly mod, but far from harmful. i'd never do it, and i would make ENDLESS fun of any friends of mine who did it until they put it back to stock or came up with a real exhaust, but that won't help here.
once again, this won't hurt anyone. there's a heat shield above that section and he's going to have a ton of soot on the undercarriage, but it's not going to do any harm. god... sometimes you people get sidetracked on the silliest things.
| King Fish | 01-16-2006 12:38 AM |
all you guys complain about the smell that it would give off ..... it would be the same as running catless
| jsmonet | 01-16-2006 12:40 AM |
[QUOTE=RHayes]You know, if you take out the rear seat, it makes your car sound like a racecar... There is more road noise, the exhaust sounds louder and you can hear the turbo better. It also makes your car LOOK more like a race car too. (because race cars hardly ever have back seats)[/QUOTE]
that's not actually the turbo you're hearing, so much as the fuel pump whining.
i spent a couple weeks with my rear seat out not too long ago haha
that's not actually the turbo you're hearing, so much as the fuel pump whining.
i spent a couple weeks with my rear seat out not too long ago haha
| jsmonet | 01-16-2006 12:44 AM |
[QUOTE=King Fish]all you guys complain about the smell that it would give off ..... it would be the same as running catless[/QUOTE]
no, it really wouldn't. a muffler has no effect on the smell of your exhaust.
cats: react with passing exhaust gasses to pull the crap out of it that would normally pollute and stink.
muffler: keeps things quiet. has no effect on smell unless the muffler is on fire.
no, it really wouldn't. a muffler has no effect on the smell of your exhaust.
cats: react with passing exhaust gasses to pull the crap out of it that would normally pollute and stink.
muffler: keeps things quiet. has no effect on smell unless the muffler is on fire.
| J-Rex2004 | 01-16-2006 12:55 AM |
[QUOTE=jsmonet][B]also, with 3 cats in place you can saddle up to your exhaust and sit there gasping as hard as you can, and not really get messed up.[/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: Are you retarded? Got Carbon Monoxide? :lol:
:lol: Are you retarded? Got Carbon Monoxide? :lol:
| Damien | 01-16-2006 12:57 AM |
[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]:lol: Are you retarded? Got Carbon Monoxide? :lol:[/QUOTE]
shhh dude.. let natural selection choose the winners...
-Damien
shhh dude.. let natural selection choose the winners...
-Damien
| jsmonet | 01-16-2006 01:04 AM |
[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]:lol: Are you retarded? Got Carbon Monoxide? :lol:[/QUOTE]
have you ever actually looked at an emissions test report?
have you ever run catless?
do me a favor and figure out how much CO comes out of your tailpipe and then look at how much it actually takes to kill or mame a child. i think you'd be surprised to find out just how little comes out of the end of an LEV status vehicle, let alone ULEV status automobiles from other manuf's such as honda.
please research a bit before you make a dumb comment. the fact remains that it is now more likely that idling in the garage will cook you before you die of anything like CO poisening.
have you ever actually looked at an emissions test report?
have you ever run catless?
do me a favor and figure out how much CO comes out of your tailpipe and then look at how much it actually takes to kill or mame a child. i think you'd be surprised to find out just how little comes out of the end of an LEV status vehicle, let alone ULEV status automobiles from other manuf's such as honda.
please research a bit before you make a dumb comment. the fact remains that it is now more likely that idling in the garage will cook you before you die of anything like CO poisening.
| Rickyh | 01-16-2006 01:10 AM |
Rough crowd here. dude, if you like it, I say more power to you.
| BlackfeetVI | 01-16-2006 01:22 AM |
[QUOTE=jsmonet]have you ever actually looked at an emissions test report?
have you ever run catless?
do me a favor and figure out how much CO comes out of your tailpipe and then look at how much it actually takes to kill or mame a child. i think you'd be surprised to find out just how little comes out of the end of an LEV status vehicle, let alone ULEV status automobiles from other manuf's such as honda.
please research a bit before you make a dumb comment. the fact remains that it is now more likely that idling in the garage will cook you before you die of anything like CO poisening.[/QUOTE]
Tell you what, you go let your car idle in the garage and let me know what happens, ok? Actually, I'll look for the news report letting me know Darwin took home another one. You freaking retard. There is plenty of CO, more than enough to kill someone. I can't count the number of CO alarm calls I've been on where pulling the car into the garage and letting it run for a minute or so has been enough to trip a meter on the other side of the house. Tripping the meter means there was enough CO that it exceeded the LEL (lower exposure limit). I'd love to know where you're getting this fact from, because you're sorely misguided. If the exhaust is getting routed into the car at all, even a little bit it will have an effect. Why? Because CO effects are cumulative, it'll build in your system. Do you actually know how much CO is produced by a LEV or a ULEV, or what the exposure levels are? There are very solid reasons why this "mod" is a bad one.
have you ever run catless?
do me a favor and figure out how much CO comes out of your tailpipe and then look at how much it actually takes to kill or mame a child. i think you'd be surprised to find out just how little comes out of the end of an LEV status vehicle, let alone ULEV status automobiles from other manuf's such as honda.
please research a bit before you make a dumb comment. the fact remains that it is now more likely that idling in the garage will cook you before you die of anything like CO poisening.[/QUOTE]
Tell you what, you go let your car idle in the garage and let me know what happens, ok? Actually, I'll look for the news report letting me know Darwin took home another one. You freaking retard. There is plenty of CO, more than enough to kill someone. I can't count the number of CO alarm calls I've been on where pulling the car into the garage and letting it run for a minute or so has been enough to trip a meter on the other side of the house. Tripping the meter means there was enough CO that it exceeded the LEL (lower exposure limit). I'd love to know where you're getting this fact from, because you're sorely misguided. If the exhaust is getting routed into the car at all, even a little bit it will have an effect. Why? Because CO effects are cumulative, it'll build in your system. Do you actually know how much CO is produced by a LEV or a ULEV, or what the exposure levels are? There are very solid reasons why this "mod" is a bad one.
| dr_wheel | 01-16-2006 02:32 AM |
+1 for carbon monoxide poisoning.
| uncle lewie wrx | 01-16-2006 02:38 AM |
The orig poster has got to be kidding me.
Whats he gonna type next, he took a hammer and screw driver to the muffler can???
Idiot. Cheap ass mod that gets you nowhere.
Whats he gonna type next, he took a hammer and screw driver to the muffler can???
Idiot. Cheap ass mod that gets you nowhere.
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