| legacydreamz | 01-24-2007 12:44 AM |
i want to be a professional rally driver...NPH
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ive driven at local courses but i cant afford a full out rally car. having a family and making enough to get by doesnt help my cause. do teams look for drivers or do you have to buy your way through?
i love rally, i cant get enough. i go to school for culinary arts which i love, but i rally racing has always been in my heart and is my #1 goal in life.
maybe i could make a cake or something for a team?
what are some things i can do to get started in working my way towards profesional racing?
EDIT: i also want to add i have a highly technical backround. maybe i could make my way on a team by being a tech?
just a thought.
i love rally, i cant get enough. i go to school for culinary arts which i love, but i rally racing has always been in my heart and is my #1 goal in life.
maybe i could make a cake or something for a team?
what are some things i can do to get started in working my way towards profesional racing?
EDIT: i also want to add i have a highly technical backround. maybe i could make my way on a team by being a tech?
just a thought.
| lummer shawn | 01-24-2007 01:27 AM |
only the top 5 guys in the world get paid
so you better have deep pockets
try searching and you will find the answer to all of your questions
so you better have deep pockets
try searching and you will find the answer to all of your questions
| XenoWolf | 01-24-2007 01:54 AM |
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Enjoy, and good luck!
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[url]http://www.specialstage.com/classifieds/[/url]
Enjoy, and good luck!
| Back Road Runner | 01-24-2007 02:48 AM |
Welcome to every man's dream. :lol:
Rallying = $$$, so um...yeah.
The tech idea is a potential way to get involved. However, it can be much less than that as you can be more of a grunt and help setup and run events. I'm not even talking about WRC, rather more local events. You may not be driving nor wrenching on any WRC cars, but you will be involved and can gain connections. If you enjoy the sport, you'll love it any way you can.
Rallying = $$$, so um...yeah.
The tech idea is a potential way to get involved. However, it can be much less than that as you can be more of a grunt and help setup and run events. I'm not even talking about WRC, rather more local events. You may not be driving nor wrenching on any WRC cars, but you will be involved and can gain connections. If you enjoy the sport, you'll love it any way you can.
| burned | 01-24-2007 03:35 AM |
When you start beibg a tech you drive the cars only for tests because if you are good at it you are more usefull as a mechanic. I was only driving the car when i tested it was enough for me and i didnt have to pay nothing.
If you want to drive you have to have money. Money you get if you are good. So for start you allmoust always have to pay by yourself and than if you are really good come the sponsors( if you are very very lucky son of a bitch).
Personaly i would rather be a tehnician. You actualy can make realy realy good money whit it you get the chance to drive and maybe you make a team and start driveing yourself.
If you want to drive you have to have money. Money you get if you are good. So for start you allmoust always have to pay by yourself and than if you are really good come the sponsors( if you are very very lucky son of a bitch).
Personaly i would rather be a tehnician. You actualy can make realy realy good money whit it you get the chance to drive and maybe you make a team and start driveing yourself.
| Howl | 01-24-2007 08:39 AM |
Join your local rally club and get out to events.
You can volunteer as a marshal at stage rallies. Participate in navigational rallies. Help organize events. And most importantly meet people who are: A) people who are running stage rally cars (not for profit of course); and B) could use your skill and enthusiasm.
You can volunteer as a marshal at stage rallies. Participate in navigational rallies. Help organize events. And most importantly meet people who are: A) people who are running stage rally cars (not for profit of course); and B) could use your skill and enthusiasm.
| Ralliart4 | 01-24-2007 10:59 AM |
[quote=Howl;16788661]Join your local rally club and get out to events.
You can volunteer as a marshal at stage rallies. Participate in navigational rallies. Help organize events. And most importantly meet people who are: A) people who are running stage rally cars (not for profit of course); and B) could use your skill and enthusiasm.[/quote]
The problem i face is that i am not close to any events at all being in north florida (panama city). What can i do?
You can volunteer as a marshal at stage rallies. Participate in navigational rallies. Help organize events. And most importantly meet people who are: A) people who are running stage rally cars (not for profit of course); and B) could use your skill and enthusiasm.[/quote]
The problem i face is that i am not close to any events at all being in north florida (panama city). What can i do?
| RB5 Clone | 01-24-2007 11:02 AM |
dreams can only start by DOING
get to every rally you can
hang out in service park, get to know the mid-pack teams, they are good guys and can use some help from a sharp tech. food is fuel for the service crew, you can cook your way onto ANY team. if you wrench and cook, try not to get mud/grease/blood on the bratwurst, OK? ;)
work rallies to understand how the timing/scoring/controls work
run TSD rallies, it's a great way to learn. do a buncha rally-xes, you don't need a prepped car and can have a blast slinging it sideways in the dirt or snow. spend your first serious $$$ on rally school--it's the single most cost-effective path to becoming a competent rally driver.
if you do all this for a couple of years, and still have that dream, AND find you are good at driving...well, then, the whole team thing begins. buy/build a rally car. find a good codriver. get a haul truck and trailer. recruit a service team. court sponsors. spend yourself deep into debt. scrimp and save and work night and day on your bent dirty rally car. travel thousands of miles to events, only to crash out on the first stage. so what, you keep at it no matter what...and keep at it for several years.
if you do all this for 3-4 years, and you still have that dream, AND find you are really-really-really good at it, AND win a championship or 3, then MAYBE you can think about getting paid to drive. but not bloody likely.
BTDT. Not trying to bum you out, just the voice of first-hand experience. Still love to rally any way I can, tho!
get to every rally you can
hang out in service park, get to know the mid-pack teams, they are good guys and can use some help from a sharp tech. food is fuel for the service crew, you can cook your way onto ANY team. if you wrench and cook, try not to get mud/grease/blood on the bratwurst, OK? ;)
work rallies to understand how the timing/scoring/controls work
run TSD rallies, it's a great way to learn. do a buncha rally-xes, you don't need a prepped car and can have a blast slinging it sideways in the dirt or snow. spend your first serious $$$ on rally school--it's the single most cost-effective path to becoming a competent rally driver.
if you do all this for a couple of years, and still have that dream, AND find you are good at driving...well, then, the whole team thing begins. buy/build a rally car. find a good codriver. get a haul truck and trailer. recruit a service team. court sponsors. spend yourself deep into debt. scrimp and save and work night and day on your bent dirty rally car. travel thousands of miles to events, only to crash out on the first stage. so what, you keep at it no matter what...and keep at it for several years.
if you do all this for 3-4 years, and you still have that dream, AND find you are really-really-really good at it, AND win a championship or 3, then MAYBE you can think about getting paid to drive. but not bloody likely.
BTDT. Not trying to bum you out, just the voice of first-hand experience. Still love to rally any way I can, tho!
| lummer shawn | 01-24-2007 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=Ralliart4;16790151]The problem i face is that i am not close to any events at all being in north florida (panama city). What can i do?[/QUOTE]
there are a bunch of events with in a 1 day drive from northern florida
other option is, if you want it bad enough, move closer :)
there are a bunch of events with in a 1 day drive from northern florida
other option is, if you want it bad enough, move closer :)
| Ralliart4 | 01-24-2007 12:58 PM |
I am still hard pressed to even find any sort of venue that is the problem for me.. where in florida are there any dirt trial sprints, rallyx or rallies that is a big bumper for me
| fliz | 01-24-2007 01:04 PM |
Sandblast is in SC, and it's only a month away. If you want to get involved in rally, volunteer.
[url]http://sandblastrally.com/2007/[/url]
As was said, there are no professional drivers in US rally. The closest thing is Travis Pastrana, and that's only because he was famous before he started rallying (he brings his own fans).
[url]http://sandblastrally.com/2007/[/url]
As was said, there are no professional drivers in US rally. The closest thing is Travis Pastrana, and that's only because he was famous before he started rallying (he brings his own fans).
| Geek Guy | 01-24-2007 01:10 PM |
Don't forget Rally Tennessee in Linden, TN in September. That's the *only* full-length, all-tarmac race in the US.
[url]www.rallytennessee.com[/url]
[url]www.rallytennessee.com[/url]
| burned | 01-24-2007 01:44 PM |
Or you can claim that Malcom wilson is your dady And even if you drive like **** and no driving school can help you You can drive a WRC.
| RB5 Clone | 01-24-2007 02:48 PM |
[QUOTE=burned;16792635]Or you can claim that Malcom wilson is your dady And even if you drive like **** and no driving school can help you You can drive a WRC.[/QUOTE]
nice idea, but only way that works is to HAVE Malcom Wilson (who runs BP Ford WRC team) as your Daddy.
Or at least have a dad with equally deep pockets and a permissive attitude toward his son's choice of adrenaline sports. :lol:
nice idea, but only way that works is to HAVE Malcom Wilson (who runs BP Ford WRC team) as your Daddy.
Or at least have a dad with equally deep pockets and a permissive attitude toward his son's choice of adrenaline sports. :lol:
| akuhner | 01-24-2007 09:12 PM |
[QUOTE=legacydreamz;16786766]EDIT: i also want to add i have a highly technical backround. maybe i could make my way on a team by being a tech?[/QUOTE] The mechanic route might be your best bet, but be prepared to work for peanuts until you make it to a bigger team (even then the peanuts are only slightly bigger!). Oh, and your cooking skills would make you popular on the bigger teams who have tour buses! If you are over 20 and haven't started your professional driving career, don't bet your house on it. Start saving and pay yourself to rally. Travis Pastrana gets paid because he's young, has talent, and is a marketing machine - greater talents go unpaid because they are missing one of these three qualities.
[QUOTE=Ralliart4;16791944]I am still hard pressed to even find any sort of venue that is the problem for me.. where in florida are there any dirt trial sprints, rallyx or rallies that is a big bumper for me[/QUOTE]A dedication to rally requires a love for long road trips as well! I realize you can drive 8 hours and still be in FL, but 8 hours is nothing in rally time!
Edit - what does "NPH" mean in your title?
[QUOTE=Ralliart4;16791944]I am still hard pressed to even find any sort of venue that is the problem for me.. where in florida are there any dirt trial sprints, rallyx or rallies that is a big bumper for me[/QUOTE]A dedication to rally requires a love for long road trips as well! I realize you can drive 8 hours and still be in FL, but 8 hours is nothing in rally time!
Edit - what does "NPH" mean in your title?
| Tim Sanderson | 01-24-2007 09:16 PM |
Dude, you can cook. You are money. What would people rather eat; a hot dog or brat? Or braised chicken kabobs with a garlic fennel glaze.
Make good food and take it to sell at the rally (or give it away to the teams you want to work for). Or make it there. You will make a killing. And then everybody will be more than happy to talk to you.
Make good food and take it to sell at the rally (or give it away to the teams you want to work for). Or make it there. You will make a killing. And then everybody will be more than happy to talk to you.
| goto_racing | 01-25-2007 01:29 AM |
[QUOTE=Car #187;16798930]
Edit - what does "NPH" mean in your title?[/QUOTE]
My first thought was Neil Patrick Harris...
Chris Lock
Edit - what does "NPH" mean in your title?[/QUOTE]
My first thought was Neil Patrick Harris...
Chris Lock
| lummer shawn | 01-25-2007 03:52 AM |
[QUOTE=goto_racing;16801685]My first thought was Neil Patrick Harris...
Chris Lock[/QUOTE]
ohhh Doogie Howser MD
[img]http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/BrandonFrye/2006-09-30_161537_doogie-howser-md.jpg[/img]
Chris Lock[/QUOTE]
ohhh Doogie Howser MD
[img]http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/BrandonFrye/2006-09-30_161537_doogie-howser-md.jpg[/img]
| leecea | 01-25-2007 10:25 AM |
I've seen NPH used for "no problem here!" - can't tell if that's what the OP meant.
| fliz | 01-25-2007 10:41 AM |
[QUOTE=Tim Sanderson;16798983]Dude, you can cook. You are money. What would people rather eat; a hot dog or brat? Or braised chicken kabobs with a garlic fennel glaze.
Make good food and take it to sell at the rally (or give it away to the teams you want to work for). Or make it there. You will make a killing. And then everybody will be more than happy to talk to you.[/QUOTE]
Hey wait...YOU can cook, why didn't we get any delicious treats at LSPR?
Make good food and take it to sell at the rally (or give it away to the teams you want to work for). Or make it there. You will make a killing. And then everybody will be more than happy to talk to you.[/QUOTE]
Hey wait...YOU can cook, why didn't we get any delicious treats at LSPR?
| akuhner | 01-25-2007 07:58 PM |
[QUOTE=leecea;16803820]I've seen NPH used for "no problem here!" - can't tell if that's what the OP meant.[/QUOTE]
I figured it out: NPH was supposed to be NHP, "Need Help Please!" Right?!
So, where did Mr. Dreamz go? We need feedback on our feed back!
I figured it out: NPH was supposed to be NHP, "Need Help Please!" Right?!
So, where did Mr. Dreamz go? We need feedback on our feed back!
| RB5 Clone | 01-26-2007 10:17 AM |
Yeh Mr Dreamz, don't give up before you get started.
I wasn't trying to be negative in my post above, just realistic. It's important to emphasize that the unlikehood of landing a paid rally driver job shouldn't keep you from trying.
If you do the stuff ppl have suggested in this thread, you will have more freakin fun in a car than you ever imagined possible. You'll finish a stage and say to your co-driver, "I can't BELIEVE what we just did. I can't believe that what we just did is even LEGAL!"
Off now to the deep dark woods of Quebec (7 hrs drive) to a super fun winter TSD....yet another brand of enjoyment in the crazy game called "rally." :D
Dave G
[url]www.lastditchracing.net[/url]
I wasn't trying to be negative in my post above, just realistic. It's important to emphasize that the unlikehood of landing a paid rally driver job shouldn't keep you from trying.
If you do the stuff ppl have suggested in this thread, you will have more freakin fun in a car than you ever imagined possible. You'll finish a stage and say to your co-driver, "I can't BELIEVE what we just did. I can't believe that what we just did is even LEGAL!"
Off now to the deep dark woods of Quebec (7 hrs drive) to a super fun winter TSD....yet another brand of enjoyment in the crazy game called "rally." :D
Dave G
[url]www.lastditchracing.net[/url]
| Subie Gal | 01-26-2007 10:24 AM |
[QUOTE=Back Road Runner;16787672]Welcome to every man's dream. :lol:
Rallying = $$$, so um...yeah.
[/QUOTE]
[i]hey some women dream of this too ya know!!![/i]
To the OP
If a single mom (yes that's me) can have a rally car and compete,
you can too
how bad do you want it?
get out there... and get involved.
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
Rallying = $$$, so um...yeah.
[/QUOTE]
[i]hey some women dream of this too ya know!!![/i]
To the OP
If a single mom (yes that's me) can have a rally car and compete,
you can too
how bad do you want it?
get out there... and get involved.
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
| DrBiggly | 01-26-2007 02:00 PM |
One must typically use their day job type income in order to get started for any form of racing; sponsorships do not come out of nowhere and typically are hard-won. So do not quit the day job and do not attempt to rely on income from racing first off. Beyond that, see all of the suggestions above.
To make a small fortune in racing, one must start with a large fortune. :)
-Biggly
To make a small fortune in racing, one must start with a large fortune. :)
-Biggly
| Matt89 | 01-26-2007 06:48 PM |
Good luck with that one... profesional drivers have an extensive background in racing. Most start in karting.
[url]http://www.starsofkarting.com/[/url]
this is the big deal series, this is what I race as well as other international series. Good luck but i would stick to the food
[url]http://www.starsofkarting.com/[/url]
this is the big deal series, this is what I race as well as other international series. Good luck but i would stick to the food
| Ice racer | 01-27-2007 09:20 PM |
[QUOTE=legacydreamz;16786766]ive driven at local courses but i cant afford a full out rally car. [/QUOTE]Very simple actually. Next month you have been given the opportunity to throw all of the big expenses of real stage rallying out the window. It's coming up at the Sand Blast Rally in SC. It's called [url=http://sandblastrally.com/2007/comp-rallymoto-faq.php][b]Rally Moto[/b][/url]. The $30,000 car plus the additional $30,000 of prep - not needed. The big trailer full of parts - not needed. If you've got a motorcycle and a pickup truck to carry it, plus $250 [[i]half[/i] the entry fee that cars pay], you can run the same stage rally the big guys do, for pennies. This may be your only option. Enjoy it while it's still too good to be true. :)
| XenoWolf | 01-27-2007 10:06 PM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer;16835128]Very simple actually. Next month you have been given the opportunity to throw all of the big expenses of real stage rallying out the window. It's coming up at the Sand Blast Rally in SC. It's called [url=http://sandblastrally.com/2007/comp-rallymoto-faq.php][b]Rally Moto[/b][/url]. The $30,000 car plus the additional $30,000 of prep - not needed. The big trailer full of parts - not needed. If you've got a motorcycle and a pickup truck to carry it, plus $250 [[i]half[/i] the entry fee that cars pay], you can run the same stage rally the big guys do, for pennies. This may be your only option. Enjoy it while it's still too good to be true. :)[/QUOTE]
Except one problem... the entry list is already full and the waiting list is balls deep.
Except one problem... the entry list is already full and the waiting list is balls deep.
| Ice racer | 01-27-2007 10:11 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf;16835422]Except one problem... the entry list is already full and the waiting list is balls deep.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I didn't know that but I'm not surprised. By George I think we've got a winner on our hands. Stage rallying for peanuts! :D
| RichardM | 01-28-2007 09:17 AM |
For the average clubman ralliest, the cost of the car and the entry fees are not the biggest expense. It is the cost of getting to the event. Trust me on this as I have the accounting paperwork to prove it.
Car 701
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