| DVN428 | 04-07-2003 01:44 AM |
Painted OEM sideskirts.
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How much did it cost to have the sideskirts painted. Right now i have that flat black color on my blue WRX and i think it looks horrible. :( Did you guys have a body shop paint the sideskirts or did you have the dealership do it for you?
-Dave
-Dave
| slack20123 | 04-07-2003 02:25 AM |
Re: Painted OEM sideskirts.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DVN428 [/i]
[B]How much did it cost to have the sideskirts painted. Right now i have that flat black color on my blue WRX and i think it looks horrible. :( Did you guys have a body shop paint the sideskirts or did you have the dealership do it for you?
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
You're right they look horrible, I had mine painted for $80 at a body shop, they have held up very well, absolutely no problems.
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[B]How much did it cost to have the sideskirts painted. Right now i have that flat black color on my blue WRX and i think it looks horrible. :( Did you guys have a body shop paint the sideskirts or did you have the dealership do it for you?
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
You're right they look horrible, I had mine painted for $80 at a body shop, they have held up very well, absolutely no problems.
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| bert_WRX | 04-07-2003 02:57 AM |
the ones that you can buy that are painted are actually a different material...
| occhy | 04-07-2003 05:22 AM |
Ok they are a different material, more info please. Good? Bad material? Looks? I have those on order, most body shops wanted 200.00 to paint mine. So I decided to buy the oem already painted ones, plus when they get destroyed, I can put the stock black ones back on and the car will look good to sell.
| sonicblue | 04-07-2003 09:22 AM |
OK, I'll be the first to jump in with this - paint them yourself. I know, your instinct is that it would look crappy, but don't count it out. You can go to [url]www.paintworldinc.com[/url] and get guaranteed-matched paint in a spray can as well as clear coat (I would get 2 cans of each just to be safe, but you wouldn't use both). That would cost you ~$50 shipped. I used this paint to do a replica grill and the color is perfect. I would also go to Pep Boys/Autozone or such and get grey bumper/trim primer ($5).
Remove your sideskirts from the car (don't know how but I know it's pretty easy). Clean them thoroughly with some soapy water, then a degreaser. Then sand them with some pretty fine paper, maybe 300-ish grit. You want to sand most of the texture off. Finally, give it a good wipe down with some rubbing alcohol. You should be left with a smooth, really dull finish.
Spray 2-3 VERY thin coats of primer. Let cure for at least an hour then sand with very fine (400 grit) sandpaper and wipe the dust with a damp cloth. Then spray your color on, anywhere from 2-4 coats (again, VERY thin). When the paint has cured well, rub down with rubbing compound (it's like the finest sandpaper) and wipe clean with a damp cloth. Then add your clear coat - I would do at least 3 coats, also VERY thin.
I think you'll be surprise at how good this can look and, though it sounds long and involved, could easily be done in a weekend, maybe even one day if temps/ventilation is just right. I will say, however, if a body shop can do it for $80, screw this method, but it is certainly a much better option than $200+ for either OEM painted ones or body shop work.
Remove your sideskirts from the car (don't know how but I know it's pretty easy). Clean them thoroughly with some soapy water, then a degreaser. Then sand them with some pretty fine paper, maybe 300-ish grit. You want to sand most of the texture off. Finally, give it a good wipe down with some rubbing alcohol. You should be left with a smooth, really dull finish.
Spray 2-3 VERY thin coats of primer. Let cure for at least an hour then sand with very fine (400 grit) sandpaper and wipe the dust with a damp cloth. Then spray your color on, anywhere from 2-4 coats (again, VERY thin). When the paint has cured well, rub down with rubbing compound (it's like the finest sandpaper) and wipe clean with a damp cloth. Then add your clear coat - I would do at least 3 coats, also VERY thin.
I think you'll be surprise at how good this can look and, though it sounds long and involved, could easily be done in a weekend, maybe even one day if temps/ventilation is just right. I will say, however, if a body shop can do it for $80, screw this method, but it is certainly a much better option than $200+ for either OEM painted ones or body shop work.
| DVN428 | 04-07-2003 10:42 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sonicblue [/i]
[B]OK, I'll be the first to jump in with this - paint them yourself. I know, your instinct is that it would look crappy, but don't count it out. You can go to [url]www.paintworldinc.com[/url] and get guaranteed-matched paint in a spray can as well as clear coat (I would get 2 cans of each just to be safe, but you wouldn't use both). That would cost you ~$50 shipped. I used this paint to do a replica grill and the color is perfect. I would also go to Pep Boys/Autozone or such and get grey bumper/trim primer ($5).
Remove your sideskirts from the car (don't know how but I know it's pretty easy). Clean them thoroughly with some soapy water, then a degreaser. Then sand them with some pretty fine paper, maybe 300-ish grit. You want to sand most of the texture off. Finally, give it a good wipe down with some rubbing alcohol. You should be left with a smooth, really dull finish.
Spray 2-3 VERY thin coats of primer. Let cure for at least an hour then sand with very fine (400 grit) sandpaper and wipe the dust with a damp cloth. Then spray your color on, anywhere from 2-4 coats (again, VERY thin). When the paint has cured well, rub down with rubbing compound (it's like the finest sandpaper) and wipe clean with a damp cloth. Then add your clear coat - I would do at least 3 coats, also VERY thin.
I think you'll be surprise at how good this can look and, though it sounds long and involved, could easily be done in a weekend, maybe even one day if temps/ventilation is just right. I will say, however, if a body shop can do it for $80, screw this method, but it is certainly a much better option than $200+ for either OEM painted ones or body shop work. [/B][/QUOTE]
sonicblue do you have any pictures? I am very interested in doing it myself. I will be going to body shops to see how much they will charge. If its $80 ill just let them do it but anything above $200 forget it. Have you had any problems with the paint chipping at all? I live it NJ so snow, salt, and lots of pebbles are a huge problem for me, so I wanna make sure that this DIY paint job will last.
[B]OK, I'll be the first to jump in with this - paint them yourself. I know, your instinct is that it would look crappy, but don't count it out. You can go to [url]www.paintworldinc.com[/url] and get guaranteed-matched paint in a spray can as well as clear coat (I would get 2 cans of each just to be safe, but you wouldn't use both). That would cost you ~$50 shipped. I used this paint to do a replica grill and the color is perfect. I would also go to Pep Boys/Autozone or such and get grey bumper/trim primer ($5).
Remove your sideskirts from the car (don't know how but I know it's pretty easy). Clean them thoroughly with some soapy water, then a degreaser. Then sand them with some pretty fine paper, maybe 300-ish grit. You want to sand most of the texture off. Finally, give it a good wipe down with some rubbing alcohol. You should be left with a smooth, really dull finish.
Spray 2-3 VERY thin coats of primer. Let cure for at least an hour then sand with very fine (400 grit) sandpaper and wipe the dust with a damp cloth. Then spray your color on, anywhere from 2-4 coats (again, VERY thin). When the paint has cured well, rub down with rubbing compound (it's like the finest sandpaper) and wipe clean with a damp cloth. Then add your clear coat - I would do at least 3 coats, also VERY thin.
I think you'll be surprise at how good this can look and, though it sounds long and involved, could easily be done in a weekend, maybe even one day if temps/ventilation is just right. I will say, however, if a body shop can do it for $80, screw this method, but it is certainly a much better option than $200+ for either OEM painted ones or body shop work. [/B][/QUOTE]
sonicblue do you have any pictures? I am very interested in doing it myself. I will be going to body shops to see how much they will charge. If its $80 ill just let them do it but anything above $200 forget it. Have you had any problems with the paint chipping at all? I live it NJ so snow, salt, and lots of pebbles are a huge problem for me, so I wanna make sure that this DIY paint job will last.
| Dogfinder | 04-07-2003 11:04 AM |
I had mine painted and I dont think that they went through the rigors that sonicblue talked about. The color looks nice, definitely nicer than the flat black (and thats on my MBP), but there was a run on one side and the texture doesnt look all that great. But the upshot is that it was free (I had a lot of paint work being done, thankfully with more care than the sideskirts). Bottom line, even a bad paintjob on the sideskirts is an improvement. It changes the whole line of the car :)
Here's some photos, from this far you cant see imperfections
[url]http://photos.yahoo.com/gordy_cognac[/url]
Here's some photos, from this far you cant see imperfections
[url]http://photos.yahoo.com/gordy_cognac[/url]
| blue-sun | 04-07-2003 11:19 AM |
I say that while you are doing you're side skirts (esecially if you buy the paint yourself) go ahead and do the mirror trim.
It's something that alot of people miss but I think it makes a world of difference. . .check out the pic. . .
[img]http://www.freebmw.net/WRXemALL/cars/WRX%20and%20Sentra/WRX%20and%20Sentra-Images/2.jpg[/img]
WRXemALL
david
It's something that alot of people miss but I think it makes a world of difference. . .check out the pic. . .
[img]http://www.freebmw.net/WRXemALL/cars/WRX%20and%20Sentra/WRX%20and%20Sentra-Images/2.jpg[/img]
WRXemALL
david
| gotsol | 04-07-2003 11:37 AM |
did you have to remove the mirror trim or did you just tape around it?
it looks great.
I see you also painted that little black strip. Did you remove that to paint it?
it looks great.
I see you also painted that little black strip. Did you remove that to paint it?
| blue-sun | 04-07-2003 11:46 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gotsol [/i]
[B]did you have to remove the mirror trim or did you just tape around it?
it looks great.
I see you also painted that little black strip. Did you remove that to paint it? [/B][/QUOTE]
uhm, actually I bought the car used last year (it had 9K on her at the time) and that was already done for me (along with a few mods. . . :D )
Sorry I can't help you there, but I think the car looks alot cleaner with them all painted. . .
WRXemALL
david
[B]did you have to remove the mirror trim or did you just tape around it?
it looks great.
I see you also painted that little black strip. Did you remove that to paint it? [/B][/QUOTE]
uhm, actually I bought the car used last year (it had 9K on her at the time) and that was already done for me (along with a few mods. . . :D )
Sorry I can't help you there, but I think the car looks alot cleaner with them all painted. . .
WRXemALL
david
| sonicblue | 04-07-2003 11:54 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DVN428 [/i]
[B]
sonicblue do you have any pictures? I am very interested in doing it myself. I will be going to body shops to see how much they will charge. If its $80 ill just let them do it but anything above $200 forget it. Have you had any problems with the paint chipping at all? I live it NJ so snow, salt, and lots of pebbles are a huge problem for me, so I wanna make sure that this DIY paint job will last. [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, can't find the cord for my digi right now to upload. It's only been a couple of weeks but I still haven't noticed any defects appear. I'm in PA so I have the same weather concerns (with the snow we're currently getting :eek:, today should be a good test). If it's any help, I am definitely going full speed ahead with this method on my own car as soon as the weather breaks.
Also, FWIW, I hear plenty of people who say that body shop work hasn't held up well. Bottom line, it's a high-wear area that would test any paint job - might as well save some money.
[B]
sonicblue do you have any pictures? I am very interested in doing it myself. I will be going to body shops to see how much they will charge. If its $80 ill just let them do it but anything above $200 forget it. Have you had any problems with the paint chipping at all? I live it NJ so snow, salt, and lots of pebbles are a huge problem for me, so I wanna make sure that this DIY paint job will last. [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, can't find the cord for my digi right now to upload. It's only been a couple of weeks but I still haven't noticed any defects appear. I'm in PA so I have the same weather concerns (with the snow we're currently getting :eek:, today should be a good test). If it's any help, I am definitely going full speed ahead with this method on my own car as soon as the weather breaks.
Also, FWIW, I hear plenty of people who say that body shop work hasn't held up well. Bottom line, it's a high-wear area that would test any paint job - might as well save some money.
| NavySealSTI | 04-07-2003 11:57 AM |
[QUOTE]I say that while you are doing you're side skirts (esecially if you buy the paint yourself) go ahead and do the mirror trim. [/QUOTE]
That is one thing that really urks me on cars. The mirror trim looks so ugly without it being painted.
BTW - Your car is off the hook.
That is one thing that really urks me on cars. The mirror trim looks so ugly without it being painted.
BTW - Your car is off the hook.
| WR xplosive | 04-07-2003 12:29 PM |
Re: Painted OEM sideskirts.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DVN428 [/i]
[B]How much did it cost to have the sideskirts painted. Right now i have that flat black color on my blue WRX and i think it looks horrible. :( Did you guys have a body shop paint the sideskirts or did you have the dealership do it for you?
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]picked it up the dealership and installed it myself. for you, it will be $208.00+$35.00 S&H in Spimotorsports.com
Only time/abuse can tell if DIY is REALLY worth getting over the OEM painted sides.
just my .03
[B]How much did it cost to have the sideskirts painted. Right now i have that flat black color on my blue WRX and i think it looks horrible. :( Did you guys have a body shop paint the sideskirts or did you have the dealership do it for you?
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]picked it up the dealership and installed it myself. for you, it will be $208.00+$35.00 S&H in Spimotorsports.com
Only time/abuse can tell if DIY is REALLY worth getting over the OEM painted sides.
just my .03
| sonicblue | 04-07-2003 01:01 PM |
Re: Re: Painted OEM sideskirts.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WR xplosive [/i]
[B]picked it up the dealership and installed it myself. for you, it will be $208.00+$35.00 S&H in Spimotorsports.com
Only time/abuse can tell if DIY is REALLY worth getting over the OEM painted sides.
just my .03 [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh, you think your opinion is worth a whole penny more than $0.02, huh?!? :D
I totally agree - out the gate, a DIY job can easily look just as good as pro. It's the durability that will prove the value.
[B]picked it up the dealership and installed it myself. for you, it will be $208.00+$35.00 S&H in Spimotorsports.com
Only time/abuse can tell if DIY is REALLY worth getting over the OEM painted sides.
just my .03 [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh, you think your opinion is worth a whole penny more than $0.02, huh?!? :D
I totally agree - out the gate, a DIY job can easily look just as good as pro. It's the durability that will prove the value.
| blue-sun | 04-07-2003 02:42 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NavySealSTI [/i]
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NavySealSTI [/i]
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D :D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NavySealSTI [/i]
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D :D :D
thanks man!
WRXemALL
david
(fellin' proud of my "G-Ride" as my P.R. friend calls it. . .)
WRXemALL
david
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NavySealSTI [/i]
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D :D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NavySealSTI [/i]
[B] BTW - Your car is off the hook. [/B][/QUOTE]
:D :D :D
thanks man!
WRXemALL
david
(fellin' proud of my "G-Ride" as my P.R. friend calls it. . .)
WRXemALL
david
| Zola | 04-07-2003 03:37 PM |
This would be a bit more expensive, but I've seen several sets of stock unpainted sideskirts for sale in the Private Classifieds. You could buy a second set and paint them...if it doesn't turn out the way you want, you still have your original sideskirts.
| DILLIGAF Racing | 04-07-2003 05:13 PM |
my thoughts on it is, get the factory ones that are painted, and if you are worried about it in the winter, change them to the black ones. Thats most likely what I will do. But there is that little black piece by the wheel :confused:
| DVN428 | 04-07-2003 07:06 PM |
Sorry for the noob question, but how do you remove the sideskirt. I'm seriously considering doing this on my own when it starts to warm up a bit in Jersey.
-Dave
-Dave
| Orson | 04-08-2003 09:18 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DVN428 [/i]
[B]Sorry for the noob question, but how do you remove the sideskirt. I'm seriously considering doing this on my own when it starts to warm up a bit in Jersey.
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
See the installation instructions here:
[url]http://www.subaruparts.com/catalog/?section=172[/url]
[B]Sorry for the noob question, but how do you remove the sideskirt. I'm seriously considering doing this on my own when it starts to warm up a bit in Jersey.
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
See the installation instructions here:
[url]http://www.subaruparts.com/catalog/?section=172[/url]
| WR xplosive | 04-08-2003 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DVN428 [/i]
[B]Sorry for the noob question, but how do you remove the sideskirt. I'm seriously considering doing this on my own when it starts to warm up a bit in Jersey.
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]its just a matter of taking snap-on screws, like what the previous post says, scoobymods.com has an instructions.
my .02 ( happy now sonicblue? :D )
[B]Sorry for the noob question, but how do you remove the sideskirt. I'm seriously considering doing this on my own when it starts to warm up a bit in Jersey.
-Dave [/B][/QUOTE]its just a matter of taking snap-on screws, like what the previous post says, scoobymods.com has an instructions.
my .02 ( happy now sonicblue? :D )
| sonicblue | 04-08-2003 11:52 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WR xplosive [/i]
[B]its just a matter of taking snap-on screws, like what the previous post says, scoobymods.com has an instructions.
my .02 ( happy now sonicblue? :D ) [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, we don't need no stinkin people thinking they're 50% better than the rest of us ! :p :p
[B]its just a matter of taking snap-on screws, like what the previous post says, scoobymods.com has an instructions.
my .02 ( happy now sonicblue? :D ) [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, we don't need no stinkin people thinking they're 50% better than the rest of us ! :p :p
| Zola | 04-10-2003 03:46 PM |
sonicblue,
I was browsing around paintworldinc.com for the materials I would need to do this. I noticed that they sell a primer to be used on materials that will flex, like our sideskirts. However, I seem to recall earlier threads on this topic where people had gotten their particular paint place to actually add in a flex agent directly to their paint when it got mixed.
Are these two different methods of accomplishing the same goal? Any benefit to one method or the other? And what color is that primer? Finally, you didn't mention using any adhesion promoter, whereas others in the past have....does the primer act as this adhesion agent as well?
Thanks!
I was browsing around paintworldinc.com for the materials I would need to do this. I noticed that they sell a primer to be used on materials that will flex, like our sideskirts. However, I seem to recall earlier threads on this topic where people had gotten their particular paint place to actually add in a flex agent directly to their paint when it got mixed.
Are these two different methods of accomplishing the same goal? Any benefit to one method or the other? And what color is that primer? Finally, you didn't mention using any adhesion promoter, whereas others in the past have....does the primer act as this adhesion agent as well?
Thanks!
| sonicblue | 04-10-2003 04:09 PM |
paintscratch.com will add the flex additive to the paint. I'm not sure if that's better than just flexible primer. Seems logical that flexible primer AND paint with flex additive is ideal but paintworld didn't have that. If I could only have one (and this is just my semi-informed logic), it's better to have flex primer.
Any primer is essentially an adhesion promoter, it's just that something labeled "adhesion promoter" usually is just clear as opposed to grey or black. I didn't use primer from paintworldinc, I just used some Plastikote primer for Pep Boys. However, this was for my front grill, which presumable will flex less than the side skirts. When I do my sides, I will use a flexible primer (which you can get at Pep Boys, aka "Bumper/Trim Primer"). I think adhesion promoter is overkill if the skirts are cleaned, scuffed/sanded, alcohol-rubbed - with that kind of surface, the primer (and subsequent paint) will adhere fine. But if you wanted to do AP and primer, it couldn't hurt. I like the grey primer as a base because I think the WRB paint color is truer with a grey base instead of black.
Any primer is essentially an adhesion promoter, it's just that something labeled "adhesion promoter" usually is just clear as opposed to grey or black. I didn't use primer from paintworldinc, I just used some Plastikote primer for Pep Boys. However, this was for my front grill, which presumable will flex less than the side skirts. When I do my sides, I will use a flexible primer (which you can get at Pep Boys, aka "Bumper/Trim Primer"). I think adhesion promoter is overkill if the skirts are cleaned, scuffed/sanded, alcohol-rubbed - with that kind of surface, the primer (and subsequent paint) will adhere fine. But if you wanted to do AP and primer, it couldn't hurt. I like the grey primer as a base because I think the WRB paint color is truer with a grey base instead of black.
| Zola | 04-10-2003 04:49 PM |
Excellent info, thanks a ton. :)
| Javabean2 | 04-10-2003 06:01 PM |
Gotta chime in here - in the bay area there were a few shops that would do $70 for sideskirts, and I think an extra $30 for the mirror trim. It's hard to beat that price, but I don't know what prep they do, if they sand/cure/whatever.
| WR xplosive | 04-10-2003 06:09 PM |
Bought my color coded sides for $208.00 and I finally sold my unpainted OEM sideskirts for $90.00 + shipping. $110.00 for a pair of OEM Painted sides isnt all that bad...hehe :D
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