| AWDPilot | 09-02-2004 02:07 PM |
A n00bs guide to autoX
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As some of you may know I am putting together a site in the new england region [url]www.racenewengland.com[/url] . Right now I am in the process of writing up "A n00bs guide to autoX" to be followed by rallyX, hill climbs, track events etc.
From an autoX perspective, what are the nessecities that I need to detail in this guide, so far I have.
- Sportsmanship, aka don't be an ass
- Don't be afraid of being slow (cause you will your first few times out)
- Typical costs (why stock class isn't a bad place to start)
- What to bring (prep yourself as well as your car)
- Typical Day Schedule (unpack,prep,tech,walkthrough)
- How to work the course
- How to walk the course
- Take an instructor (and listen to them ;) )
- Seat time
- Have fun
So what am I missing, or if you want feel free to elaborate on a few of the above points.
Thanks!
- Jer
RaceNewEngland.com Webmaster
From an autoX perspective, what are the nessecities that I need to detail in this guide, so far I have.
- Sportsmanship, aka don't be an ass
- Don't be afraid of being slow (cause you will your first few times out)
- Typical costs (why stock class isn't a bad place to start)
- What to bring (prep yourself as well as your car)
- Typical Day Schedule (unpack,prep,tech,walkthrough)
- How to work the course
- How to walk the course
- Take an instructor (and listen to them ;) )
- Seat time
- Have fun
So what am I missing, or if you want feel free to elaborate on a few of the above points.
Thanks!
- Jer
RaceNewEngland.com Webmaster
| Georgethefierce | 09-02-2004 02:09 PM |
Don't cheat by removing your roof rails and then running STX!
| Draken | 09-02-2004 02:14 PM |
this is what we had on our site for a while:
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Here are some "rules to live by" that will help you enjoy your first season of autocrossing, and hopefully help you become a valuable addition to your club.
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First rule: Be nice.
Your autocrossing experience, and the experience of those around you, will be greatly improved if you lose the attitude. If you're a real *******, you may even run the chance of getting kicked out and being banned from the club.
Second rule:Be nice.
Have we mentioned how important it is to be nice?
Third rule: Work on you before you work on your car (a.k.a. the "practice, practice, practice" rule).
This will probably come as a shock, but you aren't the world's best driver. The single best thing you can do to improve your times is to practice. All the go-fast parts in the world won't make you a better driver. Learn as much as you can about driving: go to all the events you possibly can, go to driving schools, read books. After that, you can succomb to the temptation to start adding stuff to your car.
Fourth rule: Go slow to go fast.
It seems counterintuitive, but it's true. Slow, smooth, and deliberate is always faster than hot and spastic. Get your braking done in a straight line. Anticipate the corners ahead. Concentrate on a smooth line. Don't waste time sliding around. It may feel slower, but your times will go down. Also, the course workers will appreciate you not hitting as many cones.
Fifth rule: Course walks are good, course walks with good drivers are better.
You must walk the course to learn the proper line. If you don't know how to "read" the line through a series of corners, finding the proper line can be hard. If you followed the first two rules (remember the part about being nice?), you should be able to talk to other folks out walking the course to get advice. If you've noticed some drivers turning really fast times, see if you can walk with them -- you'll be amazed what you can learn. Many clubs offer novice course walks. If those are available, take advantage of them.
Sixth rule: There is no rule six.
Seventh rule: When it's your turn to work, work hard
See those people standing out there beside the course? The ones putting the cones back after somebody hit one? You have to do that too. It's an important job, don't slack. Pay attention to the course at all times. Never turn your back on the cars. If you see a cone down in your section, run, don't walk, to put it back. Don't talk on your cell phone, take pictures, etc. -- you're there to work -- people work while you drive, you must as well. The quality of an event often hinges on how well course workers do their job, so always do your best.
there will probably be more to come...
---
Here are some "rules to live by" that will help you enjoy your first season of autocrossing, and hopefully help you become a valuable addition to your club.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
First rule: Be nice.
Your autocrossing experience, and the experience of those around you, will be greatly improved if you lose the attitude. If you're a real *******, you may even run the chance of getting kicked out and being banned from the club.
Second rule:Be nice.
Have we mentioned how important it is to be nice?
Third rule: Work on you before you work on your car (a.k.a. the "practice, practice, practice" rule).
This will probably come as a shock, but you aren't the world's best driver. The single best thing you can do to improve your times is to practice. All the go-fast parts in the world won't make you a better driver. Learn as much as you can about driving: go to all the events you possibly can, go to driving schools, read books. After that, you can succomb to the temptation to start adding stuff to your car.
Fourth rule: Go slow to go fast.
It seems counterintuitive, but it's true. Slow, smooth, and deliberate is always faster than hot and spastic. Get your braking done in a straight line. Anticipate the corners ahead. Concentrate on a smooth line. Don't waste time sliding around. It may feel slower, but your times will go down. Also, the course workers will appreciate you not hitting as many cones.
Fifth rule: Course walks are good, course walks with good drivers are better.
You must walk the course to learn the proper line. If you don't know how to "read" the line through a series of corners, finding the proper line can be hard. If you followed the first two rules (remember the part about being nice?), you should be able to talk to other folks out walking the course to get advice. If you've noticed some drivers turning really fast times, see if you can walk with them -- you'll be amazed what you can learn. Many clubs offer novice course walks. If those are available, take advantage of them.
Sixth rule: There is no rule six.
Seventh rule: When it's your turn to work, work hard
See those people standing out there beside the course? The ones putting the cones back after somebody hit one? You have to do that too. It's an important job, don't slack. Pay attention to the course at all times. Never turn your back on the cars. If you see a cone down in your section, run, don't walk, to put it back. Don't talk on your cell phone, take pictures, etc. -- you're there to work -- people work while you drive, you must as well. The quality of an event often hinges on how well course workers do their job, so always do your best.
there will probably be more to come...
| Draken | 09-02-2004 02:15 PM |
and..
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This list should be fairly comprehensive. I'm sure you wouldn't need every one of these items at every event, but you'd be surprised at just how many times the one item you really wish you had will be the thing you forgot. Often, you'll be able to share one of the larger items with a friend (i.e. if only one of you has a torque wrench).
It's easiest to put all the smaller items into a large "rubbermaid" style tub that will fit in your trunk. This makes it much easier to load and unload the car. Since it has a lid, it also keeps the sun (and rain) off of your stuff while you're competing.
Personal items to bring:
Water
Food
Jacket
Hat
Gloves
Sunscreen
Umbrella (good for shade when it's hot too)
Comfortable shoes
Money
Membership card (if you're a member)
Driver's license
Rule book
Camera (film, batteries, etc. too)
Helmet
Folding chair(s)
Car-related stuff to bring:
Racing tires (if you've got them)
Magnetic numbers (if you've got them)
Jack
Lug wrench (a 12V electric impact wrench is by far the best)
Torque wrench
Compressor (or air tank)
Tire pressure gauge
Tools
A quart or two of oil
Windshield cleaner
Shop towels
Old beach towel, blanket, or cardboard (to lay on while working on the car)
Stuff to do when you get to the event:
Find a good parking spot. You'll be unpacking and leaving stuff here, so plan accordingly. Find shade if you can.
Register. If you're given a work assignment at registration, be sure you know where and when you're supposed to work (and be there when you're supposed to be).
Unpack car (remove all loose items from interior, trunk, glove compartment, etc.)
Change tires (if you're running dedicated race rubber)
Apply magnetic numbers (if you have magnets)
Check and set initial tire pressures
Take car through tech inspection
If you don't have magnets, put on shoe polish numbers here
Make mental note to get or make magnetic numbers, 'cause shoe polish is a pain in the butt.
Course walk(s)
Have fun!
---
This list should be fairly comprehensive. I'm sure you wouldn't need every one of these items at every event, but you'd be surprised at just how many times the one item you really wish you had will be the thing you forgot. Often, you'll be able to share one of the larger items with a friend (i.e. if only one of you has a torque wrench).
It's easiest to put all the smaller items into a large "rubbermaid" style tub that will fit in your trunk. This makes it much easier to load and unload the car. Since it has a lid, it also keeps the sun (and rain) off of your stuff while you're competing.
Personal items to bring:
Water
Food
Jacket
Hat
Gloves
Sunscreen
Umbrella (good for shade when it's hot too)
Comfortable shoes
Money
Membership card (if you're a member)
Driver's license
Rule book
Camera (film, batteries, etc. too)
Helmet
Folding chair(s)
Car-related stuff to bring:
Racing tires (if you've got them)
Magnetic numbers (if you've got them)
Jack
Lug wrench (a 12V electric impact wrench is by far the best)
Torque wrench
Compressor (or air tank)
Tire pressure gauge
Tools
A quart or two of oil
Windshield cleaner
Shop towels
Old beach towel, blanket, or cardboard (to lay on while working on the car)
Stuff to do when you get to the event:
Find a good parking spot. You'll be unpacking and leaving stuff here, so plan accordingly. Find shade if you can.
Register. If you're given a work assignment at registration, be sure you know where and when you're supposed to work (and be there when you're supposed to be).
Unpack car (remove all loose items from interior, trunk, glove compartment, etc.)
Change tires (if you're running dedicated race rubber)
Apply magnetic numbers (if you have magnets)
Check and set initial tire pressures
Take car through tech inspection
If you don't have magnets, put on shoe polish numbers here
Make mental note to get or make magnetic numbers, 'cause shoe polish is a pain in the butt.
Course walk(s)
Have fun!
| Draken | 09-02-2004 02:15 PM |
feel free to use any of it.
Chris H.
Chris H.
| AWDPilot | 09-02-2004 02:16 PM |
danka
| KC | 09-02-2004 02:23 PM |
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/autoxguide.html[/url]
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/autoxchecklist.html[/url]
[url]http://www.tirerack.com/features/solo2/handbook.htm[/url]
[url]http://home.dejazzd.com/mlouie/autocross.html[/url]
[url]http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/flysolo.html[/url]
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/autoxchecklist.html[/url]
[url]http://www.tirerack.com/features/solo2/handbook.htm[/url]
[url]http://home.dejazzd.com/mlouie/autocross.html[/url]
[url]http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/flysolo.html[/url]
| kwh29 | 09-02-2004 03:29 PM |
In things to bring: For divisional or higher events don't forget to bring the factory shop manual and any supporting documentation for things you've done that others might think are in the gray area of the rules.
Of course you don't want to scare off the noobs by making them think this is a legalistic sport but it's amazing how few people bring their shop manual and rulebook to big events...
--Kevin H.
Of course you don't want to scare off the noobs by making them think this is a legalistic sport but it's amazing how few people bring their shop manual and rulebook to big events...
--Kevin H.
| DonA | 09-02-2004 04:01 PM |
Make sure your numbers are CLEAR and READABLE from a distance at 40mph
This is a pet peave of mine :p
This is a pet peave of mine :p
| AWDPilot | 09-02-2004 05:31 PM |
^^ oooh good one
| baileypicks24 | 09-02-2004 06:14 PM |
getting into the "racing" part of autoX, I think one of the most ESSENTIAL things is WALKING THE TRACK NUMEROUS TIMES!!! I can't stress this enough. Youve all heard about n00bs gettin lost out there on the track (which could get dangerous sometimes!) and all that could be solved by walking the track.
Dont get all technical when you're walking (like where to begin turning, where to be on the track), but just get the general idea of the layout of the track.
Dont get all technical when you're walking (like where to begin turning, where to be on the track), but just get the general idea of the layout of the track.
| PaulC | 09-02-2004 07:04 PM |
[QUOTE=baileypicks24]one of the most ESSENTIAL things is WALKING THE TRACK NUMEROUS TIMES!!![/QUOTE]
That's a luxury in some regions. Around here we get about 250 people in a day, so roughly half that for each coursewalk. Considering the course is open for walking for 30 minutes your first walk is obscured by crowds of people and you have to pretty much run to get one or two more in.
The Novice handbook on Tirerack that is linked above is the best one I've seen, IMO. Might as well just link to that.
EDIT: Here's a good writeup from a local autocrosser, MJ Dunlap, I think.
[quote]What you can expect from yourself as a driver at your first autocross.
We see too many drivers including a few women who think they are most
excellent drivers whose times end up reflecting their newness to
autocrossing rather than their natural talent or driving skills. In other
words, they are slow compared to experienced autocrossers in similar cars.
Sadly, they seem to have a penchant for becoming quite angry over their
disappointing times and have a tendency to go away, often forever.
How much do you know about driving a motor vehicle at it's limit?
Have you read all of the books on driving? If so, good for you. You have a
good theoretical foundation for understanding all of the various skills you
still need to develop through experience and practice. Have you ever
driven a car at it's limit of cornering ability on public roads? If so, you
either scared yourself out of your wits for a few seconds or you're
socially psychopathic. You just can't get anywhere near the limits of
handling in a modern vehicle on the open road without seriously
endangering yourself and everyone around you. Once you've
learned where the
true limits of your vehicle are, you'll realize how far away you were from
them in the past, and will never contemplate approaching them on public roads.
Finding the limits and instantly exceeding them.
It's relatively safe to exceed the limits of handling in an autocross, you might
brake too late or too hard and slide a bit past your intended turn in point,
you might accelerate too
abruptly or too much coming out of a turn and cause your front tires to push
beyond their traction limits, you might run wide in a corner and hit a cone
or two, you might even spin. But you likely won't hurt yourself, your car,
or anyone else the way you likely would on the open road. What you can do, and
will likely do if you are at all aggressive is drive beyond the optimal
grip level of your tires. Maybe when accelerating, probably when braking,
and most certainly when going through the slower corners (see the tame
consequences above). Your times will suffer for it, badly.
You probably won't be exceeding the handling limits in fast corners though
because you won't yet know how high they are, and the faster you are going,
the less tame the consequences become. Emerson Fittipaldi said most new
race drivers go too fast in slow corners, and too slow in fast corners. It's
definitely true of new autocrossers. Before you can produce reasonably
quick autocross times you will need to learn where the optimal handling
limits of your car are when accelerating braking; going into, through, and
out of slow and fast corners; and when going through a slalom And you will
need to drive at those limits throughout the entire run.
Cartoon time.
To achieve and maintain optimal tire grip, you will need to learn to be
ultra smooth but very quick in manipulating the cars controls; when
pushing down or lifting off the throttle, when turning or unwinding the
steering wheel, when shifting, and when pressing on or coming off the
brake pedal. This will take a lot of seat time (practice). On
the open road, or even on a race track, you often have seconds to set
up for a corner. You may start braking 100, 200, or even 300 yards before
the corner depending how on fast you are going. In autocrossing,
you will have zero time to set up for a corner. Even if you are on a
very short straight stretch of the course, you will begin braking as soon
as you stop accelerating as hard as the car can, usually in second gear.
It typically takes 35 to 50 seconds to run an autocross course. There are
no straight aways on which you can relax while the car is in top gear. You
will always be busy. You may become frenetic not from panic or
uncertainty, but because you aren't yet used to the relentless pace.
Some hold their breath for the whole run, and some don't discover they are
doing it for years or even decades of autocrossing. Many have shaking hands
at the end of a run due to the intense adrenaline rush.
So you need to learn where the limits of your car are, how to correct
instantly when you start to exceed them, and how to be ultra smooth
with the controls so you don't upset even slightly the suspension of
your car which needs total composure to produce it's ultimate
performance. And you need to learn to do it while driving in speeded up
cartoon time. So give yourself a break. Don't expect miracles the
first time out and you'll have a lot fun now and in the future rather
than becoming disappointed in yourself at your first event. In time,
maybe a season or two, you might well be turning some pretty quick
times. Assuming you actually do have all that natural talent and
driving skill you thought you had in the first place.
How to be smooth and fast.
Undoubtedly, you already want to know all the driving techniques
specific to autocross, how to read the course, where the correct line
is, and everything else you can arm yourself with for your first
event. Well, that's a much longer subject, and we might get around to
actually writing it for you. In the meantime, I'll give you the most
important one which you would do well to begin practicing immediately:
LOOK AHEAD! When you drive on the freeway you look well up the road due
to the speed you are traveling, and to give yourself adequate time
to react to the unexpected antics of all of those other people on the
road who are actively doing any and everything except actual driving.
When people begin autocrossing they tend to look at the cones. Don't do
it! You've already trained your nervous system to drive the car exactly
where you look, so look at the course between the cones. Your nervous
system also knows not to run over curbs at the side of the street
without you looking at them, so trust it not to run over the cones you
are about to pass by. You are going to be traveling at highway speeds
on the autocross course and you need to look ahead as you do on the
highway to give yourself time to properly position your car for the
next turn and the next. If you look no further ahead than the corner you
are about to enter, you will find yourself constantly surprised by
each of the succeeding corners which of course will all be rushing at
you at cartoon speed. If you do look ahead, you won't be surprised unless
it's by the facts that you really can drive between the cones without
looking at them, and that you'll automatically drive a line faster than
the one you thought was optimal when you walked the course looking at
it one turn at a time. [/quote]
That's a luxury in some regions. Around here we get about 250 people in a day, so roughly half that for each coursewalk. Considering the course is open for walking for 30 minutes your first walk is obscured by crowds of people and you have to pretty much run to get one or two more in.
The Novice handbook on Tirerack that is linked above is the best one I've seen, IMO. Might as well just link to that.
EDIT: Here's a good writeup from a local autocrosser, MJ Dunlap, I think.
[quote]What you can expect from yourself as a driver at your first autocross.
We see too many drivers including a few women who think they are most
excellent drivers whose times end up reflecting their newness to
autocrossing rather than their natural talent or driving skills. In other
words, they are slow compared to experienced autocrossers in similar cars.
Sadly, they seem to have a penchant for becoming quite angry over their
disappointing times and have a tendency to go away, often forever.
How much do you know about driving a motor vehicle at it's limit?
Have you read all of the books on driving? If so, good for you. You have a
good theoretical foundation for understanding all of the various skills you
still need to develop through experience and practice. Have you ever
driven a car at it's limit of cornering ability on public roads? If so, you
either scared yourself out of your wits for a few seconds or you're
socially psychopathic. You just can't get anywhere near the limits of
handling in a modern vehicle on the open road without seriously
endangering yourself and everyone around you. Once you've
learned where the
true limits of your vehicle are, you'll realize how far away you were from
them in the past, and will never contemplate approaching them on public roads.
Finding the limits and instantly exceeding them.
It's relatively safe to exceed the limits of handling in an autocross, you might
brake too late or too hard and slide a bit past your intended turn in point,
you might accelerate too
abruptly or too much coming out of a turn and cause your front tires to push
beyond their traction limits, you might run wide in a corner and hit a cone
or two, you might even spin. But you likely won't hurt yourself, your car,
or anyone else the way you likely would on the open road. What you can do, and
will likely do if you are at all aggressive is drive beyond the optimal
grip level of your tires. Maybe when accelerating, probably when braking,
and most certainly when going through the slower corners (see the tame
consequences above). Your times will suffer for it, badly.
You probably won't be exceeding the handling limits in fast corners though
because you won't yet know how high they are, and the faster you are going,
the less tame the consequences become. Emerson Fittipaldi said most new
race drivers go too fast in slow corners, and too slow in fast corners. It's
definitely true of new autocrossers. Before you can produce reasonably
quick autocross times you will need to learn where the optimal handling
limits of your car are when accelerating braking; going into, through, and
out of slow and fast corners; and when going through a slalom And you will
need to drive at those limits throughout the entire run.
Cartoon time.
To achieve and maintain optimal tire grip, you will need to learn to be
ultra smooth but very quick in manipulating the cars controls; when
pushing down or lifting off the throttle, when turning or unwinding the
steering wheel, when shifting, and when pressing on or coming off the
brake pedal. This will take a lot of seat time (practice). On
the open road, or even on a race track, you often have seconds to set
up for a corner. You may start braking 100, 200, or even 300 yards before
the corner depending how on fast you are going. In autocrossing,
you will have zero time to set up for a corner. Even if you are on a
very short straight stretch of the course, you will begin braking as soon
as you stop accelerating as hard as the car can, usually in second gear.
It typically takes 35 to 50 seconds to run an autocross course. There are
no straight aways on which you can relax while the car is in top gear. You
will always be busy. You may become frenetic not from panic or
uncertainty, but because you aren't yet used to the relentless pace.
Some hold their breath for the whole run, and some don't discover they are
doing it for years or even decades of autocrossing. Many have shaking hands
at the end of a run due to the intense adrenaline rush.
So you need to learn where the limits of your car are, how to correct
instantly when you start to exceed them, and how to be ultra smooth
with the controls so you don't upset even slightly the suspension of
your car which needs total composure to produce it's ultimate
performance. And you need to learn to do it while driving in speeded up
cartoon time. So give yourself a break. Don't expect miracles the
first time out and you'll have a lot fun now and in the future rather
than becoming disappointed in yourself at your first event. In time,
maybe a season or two, you might well be turning some pretty quick
times. Assuming you actually do have all that natural talent and
driving skill you thought you had in the first place.
How to be smooth and fast.
Undoubtedly, you already want to know all the driving techniques
specific to autocross, how to read the course, where the correct line
is, and everything else you can arm yourself with for your first
event. Well, that's a much longer subject, and we might get around to
actually writing it for you. In the meantime, I'll give you the most
important one which you would do well to begin practicing immediately:
LOOK AHEAD! When you drive on the freeway you look well up the road due
to the speed you are traveling, and to give yourself adequate time
to react to the unexpected antics of all of those other people on the
road who are actively doing any and everything except actual driving.
When people begin autocrossing they tend to look at the cones. Don't do
it! You've already trained your nervous system to drive the car exactly
where you look, so look at the course between the cones. Your nervous
system also knows not to run over curbs at the side of the street
without you looking at them, so trust it not to run over the cones you
are about to pass by. You are going to be traveling at highway speeds
on the autocross course and you need to look ahead as you do on the
highway to give yourself time to properly position your car for the
next turn and the next. If you look no further ahead than the corner you
are about to enter, you will find yourself constantly surprised by
each of the succeeding corners which of course will all be rushing at
you at cartoon speed. If you do look ahead, you won't be surprised unless
it's by the facts that you really can drive between the cones without
looking at them, and that you'll automatically drive a line faster than
the one you thought was optimal when you walked the course looking at
it one turn at a time. [/quote]
| ExitVisa | 09-02-2004 07:15 PM |
[QUOTE=DonA]Make sure your numbers are CLEAR and READABLE from a distance at 40mph
This is a pet peave of mine :p[/QUOTE]
Amen to that.
"Emerson Fittipaldi said most new
race drivers go too fast in slow corners, and too slow in fast corners. It's
definitely true of new autocrossers."
I am living proof of that, but I'm getting better. Can you say seat time? :D
This is a pet peave of mine :p[/QUOTE]
Amen to that.
"Emerson Fittipaldi said most new
race drivers go too fast in slow corners, and too slow in fast corners. It's
definitely true of new autocrossers."
I am living proof of that, but I'm getting better. Can you say seat time? :D
| bemani | 09-02-2004 07:22 PM |
Does it really help to ride through the course on a bicycle instead of walking it? Or are those people just lazy ...
| makofoto | 09-02-2004 07:32 PM |
For Nationals Events letters must be at least 8" high and have a minimum 1.25" strokr. Class letters must be 25% to 50% of the number size ... no less then 3" high ... and located adjacent to the numbers.
It's a drag not knowing this and going to your first National Event only to find that the expensive magnetic numbers that one bought don't meet the requirements!
Lots of seat time is good ... but especially as a newbie ... you need an instructor to ride along ... or drive you occasionally ... so you just don't keep repeating your mistakes!
It's a drag not knowing this and going to your first National Event only to find that the expensive magnetic numbers that one bought don't meet the requirements!
Lots of seat time is good ... but especially as a newbie ... you need an instructor to ride along ... or drive you occasionally ... so you just don't keep repeating your mistakes!
| AWDPilot | 09-02-2004 08:11 PM |
[url]http://www.racenewengland.com/index.cfm?p=content&story=10[/url]
Here is the start of the guide, updates to follow
Here is the start of the guide, updates to follow
| makofoto | 09-02-2004 08:15 PM |
Nice Work ! What class do you run it ...
| rbehny | 09-02-2004 09:41 PM |
The webpage looks good though you might want to spell check it. :)
| baileypicks24 | 09-02-2004 10:05 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani]Does it really help to ride through the course on a bicycle instead of walking it? Or are those people just lazy ...[/QUOTE]
if your club allows it
and it helps you remember the track
then why not?
guess its one of those thigns that works for some and not for others...
if your club allows it
and it helps you remember the track
then why not?
guess its one of those thigns that works for some and not for others...
| baileypicks24 | 09-02-2004 10:32 PM |
[QUOTE=PaulC]
"I'll give you the most
important one which you would do well to begin practicing immediately:
LOOK AHEAD!"[/QUOTE]
Maybe because I'm a retard, but that actually worked against me first time out. I was actually looking so far ahead that I ended up missing some gates! AH! :p But Id say 90% of noobies indeed are staring at the cones righ tin front of them and do not look far ahead enough.
"I'll give you the most
important one which you would do well to begin practicing immediately:
LOOK AHEAD!"[/QUOTE]
Maybe because I'm a retard, but that actually worked against me first time out. I was actually looking so far ahead that I ended up missing some gates! AH! :p But Id say 90% of noobies indeed are staring at the cones righ tin front of them and do not look far ahead enough.
| Storm | 09-03-2004 12:31 AM |
Well in addition to looking ahead, you have to comprehend what the heck you're lookin at! Working up to the point where you're truly looking far enough ahead makes autocross so much more FUN. I couldn't believe how much it helped me instead of reacting to what opened up in my field of view.
I had a real good writeup of advice either here or rs25.com....I don't remember where I put it. Keep it fun and all will be well.
Jay Storm
I had a real good writeup of advice either here or rs25.com....I don't remember where I put it. Keep it fun and all will be well.
Jay Storm
| PKer | 09-03-2004 12:01 PM |
It can be a good to ride a bike or run the course so you can get used to it at a speed higher than walking.
| ratt_finkel | 09-03-2004 12:23 PM |
[QUOTE=PaulC]
EDIT: Here's a good writeup from a local autocrosser, MJ Dunlap, I think.[/QUOTE]
Excellent write up.
I think the most important things to being are
- A competitive, and friendly attitude
- Sunscreen, Sunscreen, Sunscreen, Sunscreen
- A hat
- A gallon of water, even if it's warm, you will thank yourself
- Air pressure gauge
- Book, or magazine
- A chair
EDIT: Here's a good writeup from a local autocrosser, MJ Dunlap, I think.[/QUOTE]
Excellent write up.
I think the most important things to being are
- A competitive, and friendly attitude
- Sunscreen, Sunscreen, Sunscreen, Sunscreen
- A hat
- A gallon of water, even if it's warm, you will thank yourself
- Air pressure gauge
- Book, or magazine
- A chair
| zoomfactor | 09-03-2004 02:39 PM |
For any Florida n00bs - don't forget a tarp! It can be sunny one minute 2-inches of rain the next - and you don't want your stuff to get trashed:)
hurricane one minute...blue skies the next :banana:
hurricane one minute...blue skies the next :banana:
| steve | 09-03-2004 07:27 PM |
[QUOTE=PKer]It can be a good to ride a bike or run the course so you can get used to it at a speed higher than walking.[/QUOTE]
good call.
I tend to run through the course (yes, on my feet) clipping apexes as I go on. Yeah, I look like a twit, but at least I can finish the course.
:)
good call.
I tend to run through the course (yes, on my feet) clipping apexes as I go on. Yeah, I look like a twit, but at least I can finish the course.
:)
| baileypicks24 | 09-06-2004 09:11 PM |
i skip through the course
=P
=P
| WRXRallyBlue | 09-21-2004 11:13 PM |
[QUOTE=hypa]good call.
I tend to run through the course (yes, on my feet) clipping apexes as I go on. Yeah, I look like a twit, but at least I can finish the course.
:)[/QUOTE]
Do you hold your arms out like you're flying, too? :D
I tend to run through the course (yes, on my feet) clipping apexes as I go on. Yeah, I look like a twit, but at least I can finish the course.
:)[/QUOTE]
Do you hold your arms out like you're flying, too? :D
| DJ_STI | 09-21-2004 11:42 PM |
Also if you are under 18 you need to bring your parent/gaurdian to sign the consent form.
| tearitdown9 | 09-22-2004 12:32 PM |
[QUOTE=Georgethefierce]Don't cheat by removing your roof rails and then running STX![/QUOTE]
:lol: :disco:
:lol: :disco:
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