| WRXDD03 | 08-04-2003 06:25 PM |
Tire/Suspension Setup for Driving School
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OK...in about a month I am going to Track Time High Performance Driving School at Putnam Raceway in Indiana...few questions regarding tire selection and Suspension Dial in....
Here are my Suspension Mods:
Helix Rear Endlinks
Cusco 22mm Rear Sway Bar
MRT Springs
KYB AGX Shocks
As far as dialing in my struts (1=soft - 4=stiff), I was thinking of setting them up on #3 in the front, 4 in the rear for the track?
(please note, I have not installed these parts yet, so I have no idea what the settings should be for a track event, just trying to get feedback from those of you with a similiar setup)
My next questions is what tire to choose. I was considering a very sticky tire for the stock 16's, such as the Falken Azenis or the Toyo Proxes T1-S...which I have heard good things about...Anyone else have any input on a great tire selection for track racing (Please note that this is wheel to wheel racing school, and last thing I need is to have inadequate grip in these turns)...
Any feedback is more than welcome! Thanks!
DD
Here are my Suspension Mods:
Helix Rear Endlinks
Cusco 22mm Rear Sway Bar
MRT Springs
KYB AGX Shocks
As far as dialing in my struts (1=soft - 4=stiff), I was thinking of setting them up on #3 in the front, 4 in the rear for the track?
(please note, I have not installed these parts yet, so I have no idea what the settings should be for a track event, just trying to get feedback from those of you with a similiar setup)
My next questions is what tire to choose. I was considering a very sticky tire for the stock 16's, such as the Falken Azenis or the Toyo Proxes T1-S...which I have heard good things about...Anyone else have any input on a great tire selection for track racing (Please note that this is wheel to wheel racing school, and last thing I need is to have inadequate grip in these turns)...
Any feedback is more than welcome! Thanks!
DD
| MNbiker | 08-04-2003 07:11 PM |
The Azenis are great for AutoX, but tend to lose grip pretty quickly when they get hot. Kumho ECSTA MX's would be a very solid street/track day choice for a similar price. Softer sidewalls than the Azenis, but excellent grip and they like heat.
Sorry, I can't help with the AGX's, as I've never had a set.
-Steve
Sorry, I can't help with the AGX's, as I've never had a set.
-Steve
| WRXDD03 | 08-04-2003 10:17 PM |
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Thanks for the info, I actually was told the samething tonite from my buddy that AutoXs and he told me to look into the Advan A-032R...said it would be a great tire for the track...
I will look into both the Advan and Ecsta MX...thanks!
DD
I will look into both the Advan and Ecsta MX...thanks!
DD
| MNbiker | 08-04-2003 10:34 PM |
Re: Thanks
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXDD03 [/i]
[B]Thanks for the info, I actually was told the samething tonite from my buddy that AutoXs and he told me to look into the Advan A-032R...said it would be a great tire for the track...
I will look into both the Advan and Ecsta MX...thanks!
DD [/B][/QUOTE]
The A-032R's are definitely a step beyond the MX's or Azenis, in terms of track worthiness. If you're going to consider R-compound tires, then either the A-032's or Toyo RA-1's would last you a long time on the track, and still be usable on the street (albiet not for very many miles). If you go for the A-032's, you'll want the "hard" compound. The new "soft" compound sticks lots better, but won't last very long.
-Steve
[B]Thanks for the info, I actually was told the samething tonite from my buddy that AutoXs and he told me to look into the Advan A-032R...said it would be a great tire for the track...
I will look into both the Advan and Ecsta MX...thanks!
DD [/B][/QUOTE]
The A-032R's are definitely a step beyond the MX's or Azenis, in terms of track worthiness. If you're going to consider R-compound tires, then either the A-032's or Toyo RA-1's would last you a long time on the track, and still be usable on the street (albiet not for very many miles). If you go for the A-032's, you'll want the "hard" compound. The new "soft" compound sticks lots better, but won't last very long.
-Steve
| WRXDD03 | 08-04-2003 10:46 PM |
Hmmmmmmmm...
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Thanks for the info, I will most likely get the "Hard" compound, if I am spending $600 on tires, I at least want to get a few track events out of them! Thanks Steve!
| DetroitWRX | 08-04-2003 11:17 PM |
I run the AGXs with the rest stock at the track and you want full stiff all the way to limit body roll the most. For autoX I go 2or3 on the front and full stiff rear for more front bite but track full stiff. I run Victoracers on the track and two good weekends will kill my R compounds. I am thinking about running a good street tire at the track to get the tires to last longer but I am addicted to the grip.
Your setup will be nice for the track but you better upgrade your brakes. 1st weekend I ran the WRX sucked cuz of stock brakes. They lasted all of 4 laps on my first session and couldn't run the rest of the weekend. Carbotech Panther�s, racing brake fluid, and cooling ducts from removing the fog lights and running 4" dryer hose in a hole cut in the wheel liner made my second and third weekends much better. If you go to the track without race pads you will hate it and it WILL suck.
Your setup will be nice for the track but you better upgrade your brakes. 1st weekend I ran the WRX sucked cuz of stock brakes. They lasted all of 4 laps on my first session and couldn't run the rest of the weekend. Carbotech Panther�s, racing brake fluid, and cooling ducts from removing the fog lights and running 4" dryer hose in a hole cut in the wheel liner made my second and third weekends much better. If you go to the track without race pads you will hate it and it WILL suck.
| MNbiker | 08-04-2003 11:42 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DetroitWRX [/i]
[B]Your setup will be nice for the track but you better upgrade your brakes... [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, track pads should be considered an absolute requirement. Here's what I use:
Carbotech Bobcat pads front & rear for street & autoX.
Motul brake fluid & stainless steel lines. You'll want better fluid (Motul, ATE Super Blue, Silkolene, etc.) for the track, but the stainless lines aren't required.
Carbotech Panther XP pads, front only, for track days. I've yet to experience any fade with these pads, even during long sessions. I leave the Bobcats in the back, as the rear brakes don't get hot enough to warrant track pads.
-Steve
[B]Your setup will be nice for the track but you better upgrade your brakes... [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, track pads should be considered an absolute requirement. Here's what I use:
Carbotech Bobcat pads front & rear for street & autoX.
Motul brake fluid & stainless steel lines. You'll want better fluid (Motul, ATE Super Blue, Silkolene, etc.) for the track, but the stainless lines aren't required.
Carbotech Panther XP pads, front only, for track days. I've yet to experience any fade with these pads, even during long sessions. I leave the Bobcats in the back, as the rear brakes don't get hot enough to warrant track pads.
-Steve
| ANZAC_1915 | 08-05-2003 01:07 AM |
I suggest 2 at the front and 4 at the rear. If you get too much tail out then either go to 3 at the front or 3 at the rear.
I wouldn't recommend starting at 3 at the front, it really just doesn't allow enough response to transient conditions, bumps etc.
Glenn
I wouldn't recommend starting at 3 at the front, it really just doesn't allow enough response to transient conditions, bumps etc.
Glenn
| IXLR8 | 08-05-2003 07:36 AM |
Re: Tire/Suspension Setup for Driving School
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXDD03 [/i]
[B]OK...in about a month I am going to Track Time High Performance Driving School at Putnam Raceway in Indiana...
DD [/B][/QUOTE]
If this is your first (or one of your first few) track event(s) consider just leaving your car box stock (or close to it).
Pump up your re-93's to the 40+ psi range and go have some fun.
In spite of what you may read a lot of here, a stock WRX does just fine on the track and the car's lower (and more predictable) performance limits will allow you to learn a lot more about your own performance limits...
[B]OK...in about a month I am going to Track Time High Performance Driving School at Putnam Raceway in Indiana...
DD [/B][/QUOTE]
If this is your first (or one of your first few) track event(s) consider just leaving your car box stock (or close to it).
Pump up your re-93's to the 40+ psi range and go have some fun.
In spite of what you may read a lot of here, a stock WRX does just fine on the track and the car's lower (and more predictable) performance limits will allow you to learn a lot more about your own performance limits...
| CTKAG | 08-05-2003 09:06 AM |
[QUOTE]If this is your first (or one of your first few) track event(s) consider just leaving your car box stock (or close to it). [/QUOTE]
I agree with this thought. I would do a brake upgrade as recommended: performance front pads, hi-temp fluid, stainless lines. Stock rear pads will be sufficient for now. Depending on your long-term goals, an upgrade to 4-pots and the H-6 rears may be a consideration. Carbotech pads are a good choice - Panther + or even XP's if you're willing to change pads before & after - Bobcats otherwise.
Do not get 'R' compound tires until you have gained track experience and have dedicated track wheels. While track tires have considerably more grip, they provide very little warning before losing it at the limit.
Have fun!
-Keith-
I agree with this thought. I would do a brake upgrade as recommended: performance front pads, hi-temp fluid, stainless lines. Stock rear pads will be sufficient for now. Depending on your long-term goals, an upgrade to 4-pots and the H-6 rears may be a consideration. Carbotech pads are a good choice - Panther + or even XP's if you're willing to change pads before & after - Bobcats otherwise.
Do not get 'R' compound tires until you have gained track experience and have dedicated track wheels. While track tires have considerably more grip, they provide very little warning before losing it at the limit.
Have fun!
-Keith-
| Fred | 08-05-2003 11:36 AM |
Don't avoid the Azenis based on "they tend to lose grip when hot" - I used a set at my first track school, and did just fine. Couldn't tell the difference between those and the MXes. I also know lots of very experienced people who use the Azenis on track. Get the 205/55/16 Azenis for about $350 installed and be happy.
btw - I also use the Azenis for autox, and don't have any problems getting quicker when the tires get hotter.
For brakes, I'd recommend the Axxis Ultimates (what I use for track and autox) or the Panther XP. Just remember that you don't know what you're doing, and brake early.
Good luck.
btw - I also use the Azenis for autox, and don't have any problems getting quicker when the tires get hotter.
For brakes, I'd recommend the Axxis Ultimates (what I use for track and autox) or the Panther XP. Just remember that you don't know what you're doing, and brake early.
Good luck.
| WRXDD03 | 08-05-2003 12:31 PM |
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Thanks for the feedback everyone...here is a list of my current setup (everything)
Brakes -
Front - DBA Longlife Gold CD/S Rotors w/ EBC Greenstuff pads (Street Pad)
Rear Stock setup
Motul Brake Fluid
Wheels/Tires -
17" BuddyClub P1's w/ Kuhmo Ecsta 712 (Street)
Stock w/ ??????? (Track)
Suspension-
KYB AGX
MRT Springs
Helix Rear Endlinks
Cusco 22mm Rear Sway
Engine -
TXS Unichip Stage 1
MBC set at 1.1 bar
ITG Foam Air Filter
SPT Exhaust
Since I am not planning on racing a track even again in the near future, I am not wanting to spend alot of $$$$ on parts I will use 1 time. I am going to get some race pads for the front, leaving the rear stock, and probably going to get a nice sticky DOT approved Race Tire.
Yok Advan A032-R in the Hard compound is what I am contemplating with the stock wheels...still undecided though.
Thanks for all of the feedback, I greatly appreciate it!
DD
Brakes -
Front - DBA Longlife Gold CD/S Rotors w/ EBC Greenstuff pads (Street Pad)
Rear Stock setup
Motul Brake Fluid
Wheels/Tires -
17" BuddyClub P1's w/ Kuhmo Ecsta 712 (Street)
Stock w/ ??????? (Track)
Suspension-
KYB AGX
MRT Springs
Helix Rear Endlinks
Cusco 22mm Rear Sway
Engine -
TXS Unichip Stage 1
MBC set at 1.1 bar
ITG Foam Air Filter
SPT Exhaust
Since I am not planning on racing a track even again in the near future, I am not wanting to spend alot of $$$$ on parts I will use 1 time. I am going to get some race pads for the front, leaving the rear stock, and probably going to get a nice sticky DOT approved Race Tire.
Yok Advan A032-R in the Hard compound is what I am contemplating with the stock wheels...still undecided though.
Thanks for all of the feedback, I greatly appreciate it!
DD
| DetroitWRX | 08-05-2003 01:00 PM |
[QUOTE]Since I am not planning on racing a track even again in the near future[/QUOTE]
Well then run with what you have the 712s are what I run when it rains you will be ok. To get race tires for just even once a year will be not worth it and the hard compound are not that great at the AutoX if you were also going to use them for that.
I have ultimates in the rear you might want a good street rear pad to go with your front race pads. Even though they are rears they still might fade on you and then you will have funny bias issues.
Well then run with what you have the 712s are what I run when it rains you will be ok. To get race tires for just even once a year will be not worth it and the hard compound are not that great at the AutoX if you were also going to use them for that.
I have ultimates in the rear you might want a good street rear pad to go with your front race pads. Even though they are rears they still might fade on you and then you will have funny bias issues.
| Robin2 | 08-05-2003 01:26 PM |
I have to agree with IXLR8's comments......
If it's a school, they should divide the class in various divisions. Usually it goes from beginner to racer level....
Concentrate more on driving a clean line than being fast.... especially since if you've never done any track events this is important....
I'm not a pro track star but I can keep up and even pass others with faster cars than my 99RS ..... just because I go flat out in the corners (faster in the corners) but I'm slow in the straights compared to the higher HP cars.
With the drivers who have experienced and fast cars, I get beat.... cause the driver skills are similar but then my car is the difference....
What kind of track is it? Does it have long straights? or lots of turns?
For my set-up, I run on AGX.... but I prefer a 4 for the fronts and 6 rears.... This gives me a neutral setting with a mild understeer... I'd rather understeer at the track than oversteer.... At Auto-x, it's the opposite.....
Other mods is simply my 20mm rear sway bar.... and Kuhmo Victoracers.... I find it's better to be on street tires first since you'll learn the limits of the tires much faster than the r compounds.....
Robin
If it's a school, they should divide the class in various divisions. Usually it goes from beginner to racer level....
Concentrate more on driving a clean line than being fast.... especially since if you've never done any track events this is important....
I'm not a pro track star but I can keep up and even pass others with faster cars than my 99RS ..... just because I go flat out in the corners (faster in the corners) but I'm slow in the straights compared to the higher HP cars.
With the drivers who have experienced and fast cars, I get beat.... cause the driver skills are similar but then my car is the difference....
What kind of track is it? Does it have long straights? or lots of turns?
For my set-up, I run on AGX.... but I prefer a 4 for the fronts and 6 rears.... This gives me a neutral setting with a mild understeer... I'd rather understeer at the track than oversteer.... At Auto-x, it's the opposite.....
Other mods is simply my 20mm rear sway bar.... and Kuhmo Victoracers.... I find it's better to be on street tires first since you'll learn the limits of the tires much faster than the r compounds.....
Robin
| WRXDD03 | 08-05-2003 01:47 PM |
Great advice Detroit WRX and Robin2...I think the 712's should be able to hold their own on the track, and the school is at [URL=http://www.putnampark.com]Putnam Park[/URL]. From what i can see, there is 1 really long straight, and then about 10 miscellaneous bends through out the track . I will get some good race pads for the front, and some Carbotech Bobcats for the rear.
Thanks again for all of the advice!!!
Dave
Thanks again for all of the advice!!!
Dave
| Robin2 | 08-05-2003 02:20 PM |
I looked on the race track site and Ron Fellows gives a corner by corner description..... on how to drive the track....
[url]http://www.putnampark.com/profellows.htm[/url]
Ron Fellows is one of the top CDN drivers on the lemans circuit... he usually races a C5 corvette..... He's usually in the Nascar series during the road courses also....
I don't know on how high the curbing is this track but don't ride the curbing too much cause you could bend some rims.... For the pro racers, it's a different story since they want to use every % of the track.
Robin
[url]http://www.putnampark.com/profellows.htm[/url]
Ron Fellows is one of the top CDN drivers on the lemans circuit... he usually races a C5 corvette..... He's usually in the Nascar series during the road courses also....
I don't know on how high the curbing is this track but don't ride the curbing too much cause you could bend some rims.... For the pro racers, it's a different story since they want to use every % of the track.
Robin
| WRXDD03 | 08-05-2003 05:44 PM |
Thanks Robin
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Great advice everyone, I have NO track driving experience at all, but I have a ton of back country winding road experience :eek:
It will be so awesome to take my car to its limits in a controlled atmosphere, and as far as curbing, my manager is one of the instructors at the course, and she said not to worry that there are not curbs it goes out into fields...so nothing to hit.
Once again, Thanks for the advice...I will let everyone know how it goes!
DD
It will be so awesome to take my car to its limits in a controlled atmosphere, and as far as curbing, my manager is one of the instructors at the course, and she said not to worry that there are not curbs it goes out into fields...so nothing to hit.
Once again, Thanks for the advice...I will let everyone know how it goes!
DD
| rkkwan | 08-05-2003 05:55 PM |
If you have no track driving experience at all, don't worry too much about the car and setup. You should be concentrating on the line, and being smooth over everything else.
Keep in mind that a tire like 712 will do pretty well for a while on the track, but will likely get greasy after 15 minutes or so on a track. So, keep that in mind, because in a session when you're starting to get faster, the grip level of your tires will be actually going down towards to the end. You need to make adjustment to that.
-Ray
Keep in mind that a tire like 712 will do pretty well for a while on the track, but will likely get greasy after 15 minutes or so on a track. So, keep that in mind, because in a session when you're starting to get faster, the grip level of your tires will be actually going down towards to the end. You need to make adjustment to that.
-Ray
| WRXDD03 | 08-05-2003 10:46 PM |
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OK...well there will be a total of 6 half hour sessions on the track, so I will just have to get accustom to the tires losing a bit of traction with time, but as long as I get my confidence up, and get a good line and can maintain control, i will be content. I mostly want to learn the limitations of my car and build my comfort up with the car.
[B]DetroitWRX:[/B]
I will most likely run the 712's now that I think about it because 99% of my driving is done on the street, and 100% of my enthusiastic driving is done in the country where there is no traffic. So why learn the limitations of my car with tires that are not practical for the street?eh?
I ordered some Axxis Ultimates for the rear with Goodrich SS brake lines and Speedbleeders tonite. I think I will stick with the EBC Greens on the front for the track event, because they have just been seated in, and cost me damn near $100. Shouldn't experience much fading IMO with the setup I will have.:D
Keep the comments coming though, I am eating this stuff up!:banana:
DD
OK...well there will be a total of 6 half hour sessions on the track, so I will just have to get accustom to the tires losing a bit of traction with time, but as long as I get my confidence up, and get a good line and can maintain control, i will be content. I mostly want to learn the limitations of my car and build my comfort up with the car.
[B]DetroitWRX:[/B]
I will most likely run the 712's now that I think about it because 99% of my driving is done on the street, and 100% of my enthusiastic driving is done in the country where there is no traffic. So why learn the limitations of my car with tires that are not practical for the street?eh?
I ordered some Axxis Ultimates for the rear with Goodrich SS brake lines and Speedbleeders tonite. I think I will stick with the EBC Greens on the front for the track event, because they have just been seated in, and cost me damn near $100. Shouldn't experience much fading IMO with the setup I will have.:D
Keep the comments coming though, I am eating this stuff up!:banana:
DD
| Robin2 | 08-05-2003 10:48 PM |
Have fun and listen to your instructors..... Any question, ask them.... and if you feel something isn't right with your car, slow down and pit..... even if your session isn't over....
And don't put your handbrake on.... when your session is done and you come to a complete stop in the pits.... you could seize your rear brakes....
My first experience on the track was a 2 day track school..... Day 1 in the rain and day 2 sunny.... It was 2 different days of a learning curve....
Most people make their serious mistakes at the end of the day.... mental lapse or mental fatigue.... Keep your concentration up....
I've skipped some of my last sessions (last 15-20 minutes) of lapping cause I was done....
I can't wait till my next track day (Aug. 16)....
Robin
And don't put your handbrake on.... when your session is done and you come to a complete stop in the pits.... you could seize your rear brakes....
My first experience on the track was a 2 day track school..... Day 1 in the rain and day 2 sunny.... It was 2 different days of a learning curve....
Most people make their serious mistakes at the end of the day.... mental lapse or mental fatigue.... Keep your concentration up....
I've skipped some of my last sessions (last 15-20 minutes) of lapping cause I was done....
I can't wait till my next track day (Aug. 16)....
Robin
| DetroitWRX | 08-05-2003 11:03 PM |
You are set grass hopper now go have some fun.
Take time to let it all sit in also, just chill and think about your session while your car cools down. Think about what you did right, wrong, what the instructor said and visualize a good lap. This will make you better than any part you can put in your car.
Bring lots of water also!!!
Take time to let it all sit in also, just chill and think about your session while your car cools down. Think about what you did right, wrong, what the instructor said and visualize a good lap. This will make you better than any part you can put in your car.
Bring lots of water also!!!
| WRXDD03 | 08-05-2003 11:09 PM |
Arghhh...can't wait
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Man, I still have 30 days until this event and I can't stop thinking about it.
Good thing is that my boss and her husband are my instructors that weekend...they race in the Porsche series (SCCA Pro)...and I highly respect them both as individuals and as racers. No matter what, I know I will be given extremely valuable feedback from them as well as the classroom instructor.
As a young grasshopper, I need to let the theory sink-in and then apply it...going to be a mentally and physically grueling weekend...ha, already is and it is still 30 days away :(
Thanks for the insight once again :banana:
Good thing is that my boss and her husband are my instructors that weekend...they race in the Porsche series (SCCA Pro)...and I highly respect them both as individuals and as racers. No matter what, I know I will be given extremely valuable feedback from them as well as the classroom instructor.
As a young grasshopper, I need to let the theory sink-in and then apply it...going to be a mentally and physically grueling weekend...ha, already is and it is still 30 days away :(
Thanks for the insight once again :banana:
| IXLR8 | 08-06-2003 09:41 AM |
You might want to take a look at the material (especially the links at the bottom of the page) on the NASA "HPDE" (High Performance Driving Experience) web site. It has some good basic info on what to expect and how to prepare for your first track day.
[url]http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html[/url]
There are lots of other too, but this is a pretty good place to start.
Have fun, but remember, there's nothing you will/can do on a track that will increase the value of your car... at the end of the day, you need to drive it home.
[url]http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html[/url]
There are lots of other too, but this is a pretty good place to start.
Have fun, but remember, there's nothing you will/can do on a track that will increase the value of your car... at the end of the day, you need to drive it home.
| WRXDD03 | 08-06-2003 10:56 AM |
Thanks IXLR8
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IXLR8 - Thanks for the link, I have read all of the information on the site and have printed it for future reference...very good advice!
Thanks
DD
Thanks
DD
| NotFast | 08-06-2003 11:46 AM |
No tech help (seems like everyone said what I would have), but Tracktime is fun! I've done 2 of their events at Road America, and found them well run and very informative, especially when you're a newbie. Have a great time!
| ITWRX4ME | 08-06-2003 02:15 PM |
Just to pile on, try to keep in mind that it's not about the car. It's about you learning how to drive the car at speed. The brake upgrades are fine for now. You probably won't wear out the Kuhmos either. Just remember to air them up a little.
Since you already have the KYBs, it's a good place to learn how changes to them will affect the car, but I'd wait until the later sessions to mess with them, if at all. It's really more important in the first sessions to get comfortable with the line.
There's a pretty big difference between spirited back-road driving and at the limit driving on a track. On the road you're not as likely to push it as hard. But, depending on the course, you'll probably be tripping the ABS a couple of times per lap. So you're braking harder and later than you thought you could. Those moments are when your adrenalin will be kicking in, just when you need to relax the most.
Your first session focus on learning the line. Breath. Relax. Make sure you listen to the instructor. Make it a habit of checking the flags stations as you approach them. Check your mirrors to stay aware of the cars around you. Give passing signals and let faster cars go by.
You should push the limits just a tick beyond your comfort level. By that I mean, after you've acheived a given comfort level at a given pace, then you can push the limits a little more.
Be safe and have fun.
Since you already have the KYBs, it's a good place to learn how changes to them will affect the car, but I'd wait until the later sessions to mess with them, if at all. It's really more important in the first sessions to get comfortable with the line.
There's a pretty big difference between spirited back-road driving and at the limit driving on a track. On the road you're not as likely to push it as hard. But, depending on the course, you'll probably be tripping the ABS a couple of times per lap. So you're braking harder and later than you thought you could. Those moments are when your adrenalin will be kicking in, just when you need to relax the most.
Your first session focus on learning the line. Breath. Relax. Make sure you listen to the instructor. Make it a habit of checking the flags stations as you approach them. Check your mirrors to stay aware of the cars around you. Give passing signals and let faster cars go by.
You should push the limits just a tick beyond your comfort level. By that I mean, after you've acheived a given comfort level at a given pace, then you can push the limits a little more.
Be safe and have fun.
| WRXDD03 | 08-06-2003 03:29 PM |
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Great advice,
I will keep that all in mind my first time out there, and will definetely push the car as far as I feel comfortable...
Not worried about the ABS, took the fuse out a longtime ago (I HATE ABS), so I SHOULD be OK.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to respond, you guys have all been more than supportive.:cool:
I will keep that all in mind my first time out there, and will definetely push the car as far as I feel comfortable...
Not worried about the ABS, took the fuse out a longtime ago (I HATE ABS), so I SHOULD be OK.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to respond, you guys have all been more than supportive.:cool:
| mayhem | 08-14-2003 10:25 AM |
I took the Evo to Putnam Park a few weeks ago. That was my first time tracking too. It's awesome! I'm hooked and now I can't wait to go back. Take these guys advice on the brakes. I'm not sure how different the WRX and Evo's brakes are, but I trashed my front pads and boiled the brake fluid. Tire held up fine. While there experiment with different tire pressures. Remember to measure psi before and after a run. I also concur about taking that thing out there almost completely stock. Get a feel for it, then do some mods then go back. You always need a reason to go back :lol:
Which event are you signed up for? I need to find another one.
Which event are you signed up for? I need to find another one.
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