| Dussander | 05-06-2002 03:00 PM |
WRX Wrecked at One Lap
I have been following the One Lap of America via MANY different web sites and have pieced together the information that apparently one of the WRX entries has wrecked. It seems like in the first track event. I believe the drivers were: Robert Liautaud and John Scheff. This is pretty disturbing for me since I plan on running next year. I'm pretty sure the drivers are ok, but apparently the car is not.
If anyone finds more info or pictures please post them here.
Oh, and most of the other Imprezas are doing fairly well, expecially considering some of the monster cars they have in their class. Drivers, I'm rooting for you, and good luck! (hum, I wonder if any of them have web access?)
Look here for up to date class results:
[url]http://www.onelapofamerica.com/History/2002/results/OVL_CL04.HTM[/url]
If anyone finds more info or pictures please post them here.
Oh, and most of the other Imprezas are doing fairly well, expecially considering some of the monster cars they have in their class. Drivers, I'm rooting for you, and good luck! (hum, I wonder if any of them have web access?)
Look here for up to date class results:
[url]http://www.onelapofamerica.com/History/2002/results/OVL_CL04.HTM[/url]
| dwx | 05-06-2002 04:22 PM |
That's very sad news, I know a few of the competitors are on the board. Anything can happen on a track though when you are pushing, I'm sure the last thing the One Lap folks want to see is wrecked cars. I believe the first place car is a board member, I've seen his name before. A WRX I believe.
| trhoppe | 05-06-2002 04:41 PM |
...check THIS out
"a Subaru Impreza WRX running on nitrous oxide (Greg Hagopian, Larry Smith); "
so the guy leading the mid priced sedans has some nos on the WRX...I wouldnt think that would be a good road racing mod.
"a Subaru Impreza WRX running on nitrous oxide (Greg Hagopian, Larry Smith); "
so the guy leading the mid priced sedans has some nos on the WRX...I wouldnt think that would be a good road racing mod.
| Dussander | 05-06-2002 05:38 PM |
Check out the 1/4 mile times... I think they are all pretty low. Something must have been wrong with the track or it was a real high elevation or something (though the elevation shouldn't have hurt the boosted cars as much). Even with rain, I think the Subarus should have done better.
| dwx | 05-06-2002 05:58 PM |
Okay I guess I didn't realize they were doing drag races as well. That's what the nitrous is for. 13.9 was the best run from a Subaru though. I'm pretty sure most of those guys aren't drag racers... If you look at the Greg Hagopian/Larry Smith results, they are doing very well. The only guys that are beating them on the track are in the SSGT classes...I wonder what kind of mods that car has...
Phil
Phil
| JBPolkAudio | 05-06-2002 06:47 PM |
[IMG]http://www.polkaudio.com/images/onelap/pics/Oneless_small.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pictures taken from one of the guys racing in One Lap. You can see some more pics here:
[URL=http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php]http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php[/URL]
~JB
Here's a pictures taken from one of the guys racing in One Lap. You can see some more pics here:
[URL=http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php]http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php[/URL]
~JB
| JohnW | 05-06-2002 08:23 PM |
Isn't this the wrong way to tow an AWD Subaru?
| Zahnster | 05-06-2002 08:24 PM |
Maybe it's an auto.
| ChrisW | 05-06-2002 09:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JohnW [/i]
[B]Isn't this the wrong way to tow an AWD Subaru? [/B][/QUOTE]
judging by the extreme angle of the front and rear wheels I don't think it mattered all that much.
[B]Isn't this the wrong way to tow an AWD Subaru? [/B][/QUOTE]
judging by the extreme angle of the front and rear wheels I don't think it mattered all that much.
| MattDell | 05-06-2002 10:27 PM |
Further down on that page..
[QUOTE]Mile 522, Day 1, Friday night 10:00pm
I'm writing this from the roomy and spacious backseat of our WRX, as we drive from Rochester NY to South Bend Indiana. Actually I'm sitting sideways because there is no legroom in this thing at all.
[/QUOTE]
I read the first sentence and thought the guy was nuts.. or short. :lol:
[QUOTE]Mile 522, Day 1, Friday night 10:00pm
I'm writing this from the roomy and spacious backseat of our WRX, as we drive from Rochester NY to South Bend Indiana. Actually I'm sitting sideways because there is no legroom in this thing at all.
[/QUOTE]
I read the first sentence and thought the guy was nuts.. or short. :lol:
| Dussander | 05-07-2002 11:13 AM |
JBPolkAudio,
Hey, thanks for the update. It's great to have some one with all the inside information on the board. Good luck. It looks like you guys are doing well so far. Be kind to your wife's car. ;)
Hey, thanks for the update. It's great to have some one with all the inside information on the board. Good luck. It looks like you guys are doing well so far. Be kind to your wife's car. ;)
| JBPolkAudio | 05-07-2002 11:15 AM |
Thanks, I'll relay the message to Rob to take car of his wife's car!
I haven't gotten anything from him today, he's probably going insane from lack of sleep.
I'll keep you posted though when I get new pictures or info!
[edit] - Just got word that Rob won't be in a hotel for 2 days probably, so he's going to just call in with updates, no pictures -- bummer.
~JB
I haven't gotten anything from him today, he's probably going insane from lack of sleep.
I'll keep you posted though when I get new pictures or info!
[edit] - Just got word that Rob won't be in a hotel for 2 days probably, so he's going to just call in with updates, no pictures -- bummer.
~JB
| Tkacik | 05-07-2002 11:22 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]...check THIS out
"a Subaru Impreza WRX running on nitrous oxide (Greg Hagopian, Larry Smith); "
so the guy leading the mid priced sedans has some nos on the WRX...I wouldnt think that would be a good road racing mod. [/B][/QUOTE]
I dont beleive that this is a Rex...I its running the 2.2 motor...but yeah I agree dosent seem to be the best Road racing mod...:)
[B]...check THIS out
"a Subaru Impreza WRX running on nitrous oxide (Greg Hagopian, Larry Smith); "
so the guy leading the mid priced sedans has some nos on the WRX...I wouldnt think that would be a good road racing mod. [/B][/QUOTE]
I dont beleive that this is a Rex...I its running the 2.2 motor...but yeah I agree dosent seem to be the best Road racing mod...:)
| dwx | 05-07-2002 11:30 AM |
There is another car running that is a 2.2 RS-T. I know from Greg Hagopian's other posts, his car is a WRX. Maybe they aren't running his car though.
| Thug | 05-07-2002 11:48 AM |
The 2.2 RS-T does [b]not[/b] have NOS. And no one in that car is a drag racer by any means either.
| Dussander | 05-07-2002 12:49 PM |
Just to clearify..
Greg Hagopian's car is a WRX. It may or may not have NOS depending on "Car and Drivers" validity.
I think this may be their car:
[url]http://www.internetperceptions.com/rftc/images/may3/pic32.jpg[/url]
Fitz is in the RS-T. No NOS. Here is their web page:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/goat_425/index.html[/url]
Oh, here is a pic of their car:
[url]http://www.internetperceptions.com/rftc/images/may3/pic12.jpg[/url]
Greg Hagopian's car is a WRX. It may or may not have NOS depending on "Car and Drivers" validity.
I think this may be their car:
[url]http://www.internetperceptions.com/rftc/images/may3/pic32.jpg[/url]
Fitz is in the RS-T. No NOS. Here is their web page:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/goat_425/index.html[/url]
Oh, here is a pic of their car:
[url]http://www.internetperceptions.com/rftc/images/may3/pic12.jpg[/url]
| GoodFinder | 05-08-2002 09:43 PM |
I got to see the 3 Subarus still in OLA today at TWS in College Station. Pretty cool to see them on the track with all the other interesting cars.
GoodFinder :)
GoodFinder :)
| Dussander | 05-09-2002 11:52 AM |
Today's Update:
Scandia Motorspeedway
It seems Greg Hagopian kissed a wall with his car, but the car seems ok.
Check out this KartBoy t-shirt on this helpful gent:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day5.html[/url]
Wayne's car apparently hit a wild boar later that night.
From the TWS
Wayne's car 4th picture down:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day6.html[/url]
and here:
[url]http://www.xk8.net/photos/cars/2002-05-08_OneLap/pages/Img_1278.htm[/url]
Scandia Motorspeedway
It seems Greg Hagopian kissed a wall with his car, but the car seems ok.
Check out this KartBoy t-shirt on this helpful gent:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day5.html[/url]
Wayne's car apparently hit a wild boar later that night.
From the TWS
Wayne's car 4th picture down:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day6.html[/url]
and here:
[url]http://www.xk8.net/photos/cars/2002-05-08_OneLap/pages/Img_1278.htm[/url]
| KC | 05-09-2002 12:14 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dussander [/i]
[B]Today's Update:
Scandia Motorspeedway
It seems Greg Hagopian kissed a wall with his car, but the car seems ok.
Check out this KartBoy t-shirt on this helpful gent:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day5.html[/url]
Wayne's car apparently hit a wild boar later that night.
From the TWS
Wayne's car 4th picture down:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day6.html[/url]
and here:
[url]http://www.xk8.net/photos/cars/2002-05-08_OneLap/pages/Img_1278.htm[/url] [/B][/QUOTE] It's Fitz's car and Wayne's the co-driver. The guy wearing the Kartboy shirt... is Wayne. :D
He's Mr. Fixit... very handy to have around.
I hope they kept the boar... thems is good eatin!
How funny. :lol:
Also, Julie owns a Red Audi TT and she Auto-xes locally. Wow, maybe next year I'll get into this. :D
[B]Today's Update:
Scandia Motorspeedway
It seems Greg Hagopian kissed a wall with his car, but the car seems ok.
Check out this KartBoy t-shirt on this helpful gent:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day5.html[/url]
Wayne's car apparently hit a wild boar later that night.
From the TWS
Wayne's car 4th picture down:
[url]http://insanity.fieldco.com/day6.html[/url]
and here:
[url]http://www.xk8.net/photos/cars/2002-05-08_OneLap/pages/Img_1278.htm[/url] [/B][/QUOTE] It's Fitz's car and Wayne's the co-driver. The guy wearing the Kartboy shirt... is Wayne. :D
He's Mr. Fixit... very handy to have around.
I hope they kept the boar... thems is good eatin!
How funny. :lol:
Also, Julie owns a Red Audi TT and she Auto-xes locally. Wow, maybe next year I'll get into this. :D
| RyanC | 05-12-2002 06:17 PM |
Just a bit of clarification, none of the Subarus had nitrous. The drag strip sucked, everyone ran slow although times picked up during the bracket racing. The WRX that crashed was driven by some guys who didn't know how to drive on a race track, the guy who crashed bounced off a few walls after overcooking a turn; he completed the event in a borrowed E46 3 series.
:)
:)
| WRSport | 05-12-2002 07:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JBPolkAudio [/i]
[B][IMG]http://www.polkaudio.com/images/onelap/pics/Oneless_small.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pictures taken from one of the guys racing in One Lap. You can see some more pics here:
[URL=http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php]http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php[/URL]
~JB [/B][/QUOTE]
This brings up something I never thought of. Ok say I just crashed on a weekend track day. Say the front wheel is badly damaged. Course workers come to rescue my car. Do I have to let them cook my differentials in order to get the car off track?
[B][IMG]http://www.polkaudio.com/images/onelap/pics/Oneless_small.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pictures taken from one of the guys racing in One Lap. You can see some more pics here:
[URL=http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php]http://www.polkaudio.com/car/onelap/updates.php[/URL]
~JB [/B][/QUOTE]
This brings up something I never thought of. Ok say I just crashed on a weekend track day. Say the front wheel is badly damaged. Course workers come to rescue my car. Do I have to let them cook my differentials in order to get the car off track?
| Dussander | 05-12-2002 09:06 PM |
Congratulations to all the participants!
Greg Hagopian and Larry Smith took first in Mid Price Sedan and 12th overall!
Awesome show guys! I hope you have a nice detailed report to share with the i-club after sleeping for a week. ;)
Greg Hagopian and Larry Smith took first in Mid Price Sedan and 12th overall!
Awesome show guys! I hope you have a nice detailed report to share with the i-club after sleeping for a week. ;)
| ACAR | 05-13-2002 02:20 PM |
Hi, I'm the guy who took the picture of the WRX being towed, and it was our bone stock WRX (wheels and tires only) that finished 29th overall (out of 80) and 6th in class (out of 18). I can probably add some clarity to this string.
The times at the drags were relatively slow for several reasons (there were 7 cars that were in the 12's and 2 in the 11's). 1, for many of these guys this is one of the few times that have ever drag raced, most of them are road track guys like Reed Kryder in the ZO6 with a 14+ second pass, 2, you only get one run and it counts, how many times is your first pass of the day your best? and 3 it was the first day of an 8 day event, many guys (like me) took it easy on the clutch and drivetrain, not slipping them too much, or dumping them at high revs, knowing that the car needs to last all week.
Greg Hagopian did all of the driving in the white WRX that won the mid priced sedan class, and he did a great job even though he did have more than a few off track excursions, banging up but not destroying his two month old car. It has a Vishnu stage 0 set up with big brakes and a totally stripped interior. Greg should really be proud to win this class, the top five cars in the class were really something. Second place was last years class winner an 89 T-bird with a transplanted supercharged Ford 5.0 motor and a bunch of other go fast stuff driven by an SCCA pro rally guy who can really drive. Third place was a Volvo 740 also with a supercharged Ford V-8 making close to 600hp, with Brembo brakes which was driven by a 2001 SCCA national champion. Fourth place was a Saturn L-200 entered by the Saturn factory. It was 450 lbs. lighter than stock, as it went down the production line they decided which parts to put on or not in order to save max weight, and it was turbocharged using parts from the German version of the motor. They blew up 3 motors in the month before the event getting ready and settled on 330 hp max. Even still they hurt the motor at Summit Point, limped to a New York Saturn dealer where at midnight a team of mechanics thrashed all night so that they would not miss the next days event. Fifth place was a friend of ours with a Volkswagon GTI making 405 hp at the front wheels with big brakes and all the right suspension stuff. They would have finished higher, probably fourth, if they had not had a bunch of problems with popped off intercooler hoses and exhaust manifold bolts and other odds and ends that spoiled a couple of their runs. We were sixth, a couple of hopped up BMW's were 7th and 8th with a wild assortment of cars behind them that either blew up, crashed or were just slower. We were happy to finish where we did, and had a great time. If any of you ever get the chance to do this thing I highly recommend it.
The times at the drags were relatively slow for several reasons (there were 7 cars that were in the 12's and 2 in the 11's). 1, for many of these guys this is one of the few times that have ever drag raced, most of them are road track guys like Reed Kryder in the ZO6 with a 14+ second pass, 2, you only get one run and it counts, how many times is your first pass of the day your best? and 3 it was the first day of an 8 day event, many guys (like me) took it easy on the clutch and drivetrain, not slipping them too much, or dumping them at high revs, knowing that the car needs to last all week.
Greg Hagopian did all of the driving in the white WRX that won the mid priced sedan class, and he did a great job even though he did have more than a few off track excursions, banging up but not destroying his two month old car. It has a Vishnu stage 0 set up with big brakes and a totally stripped interior. Greg should really be proud to win this class, the top five cars in the class were really something. Second place was last years class winner an 89 T-bird with a transplanted supercharged Ford 5.0 motor and a bunch of other go fast stuff driven by an SCCA pro rally guy who can really drive. Third place was a Volvo 740 also with a supercharged Ford V-8 making close to 600hp, with Brembo brakes which was driven by a 2001 SCCA national champion. Fourth place was a Saturn L-200 entered by the Saturn factory. It was 450 lbs. lighter than stock, as it went down the production line they decided which parts to put on or not in order to save max weight, and it was turbocharged using parts from the German version of the motor. They blew up 3 motors in the month before the event getting ready and settled on 330 hp max. Even still they hurt the motor at Summit Point, limped to a New York Saturn dealer where at midnight a team of mechanics thrashed all night so that they would not miss the next days event. Fifth place was a friend of ours with a Volkswagon GTI making 405 hp at the front wheels with big brakes and all the right suspension stuff. They would have finished higher, probably fourth, if they had not had a bunch of problems with popped off intercooler hoses and exhaust manifold bolts and other odds and ends that spoiled a couple of their runs. We were sixth, a couple of hopped up BMW's were 7th and 8th with a wild assortment of cars behind them that either blew up, crashed or were just slower. We were happy to finish where we did, and had a great time. If any of you ever get the chance to do this thing I highly recommend it.
| Vishnu Performance | 05-13-2002 08:10 PM |
Congrats to Greg H! Kickin' butt and taking names all the way! :D
Cheers,
shiv
Cheers,
shiv
| hyedracyl | 05-13-2002 10:30 PM |
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am finally home and trying to sift through all of the information waiting for me upon my return.
Yes, I did have a few difficulties last week - but the Subaru took them all without a hiccup. Damage was relatively minor overall. A minor bumper cover scrape and a 4 wheels off at Sandia (both my fault), an incursion with a chain link fence elaborated on below, and an interesting 2 wheels off at Road Atlanta on turn 12 (my fault, but related to cones placed in the middle of the track due to a fatality that happened a couple of weeks ago).
Generally, I got absolutely no respect - and I know these guys from years of competition. Tony Swan wouldn't write anything positive about me if his life depended on it. I had to constantly protest at being forced to grid with cars much slower than I was due to the results of the "qualifying session" (described below in the chain link fence section), and being beaten by a Subaru was something none of the other drivers were prepared to deal with.
I was breathing down Hopkins neck for 11th at TWS and he gave me some advice, which I ultimately took (though it was a little self serving from him at least). Roy told me to take it easy and preserve the class win. I only had a few overall positions that I could possibly move up to by pushing it, but the class win could disappear quickly if I made a mistake in the process of pursuing a top ten finish. While he was right, I ASSURE you that he was sweating the prospect of being beaten by an idiot driving a Subaru... I told him that while he'd finished in the top ten many times, I hadn't done that yet (and I really wanted to).
The situation with the fence was sureal. They did not run a true seeding round, instead prefering to use the results of the first event for this purpose. They were adamant about putting people out in "seeding" order - but that somehow went out the window when it came to me (these people really can't stand me).
They put David Carr out in front of me (number 54, though I was 50), and Brock Jr. said to me "I think it's the right thing to do". I responded, "I don't". David proceeded to drive at highway speeds around IRP on the reconnaisence lap, making any kind of testing of corners impossible for me. I ultimately ended up laying back and then running up on him instead. While David did nothing wrong, it messed me up in a major way.
On the first hot lap of OLOA, I got my first transition corner experience at full speed (with a new suspension setup no less) during competition. It got away from me a little, and while trying to save it, I ended up spinning off of the track. I took out a chain link fence in the process :(
I waited for the guy behind me to pass, figuring that my mistake should in no way have any consequence for another competitor, and then got back on the track. I closed on the car that I let by, and still passed the car that went out ahead of me - even with the crash and delay rejoining the track.
The car that I closed on finished 12th, so my mistake cost me over 20 finishing positions with the cone penalty added in. Very bad start. I then proceeded to blow the launch in the drag race and run a horrible 2.28 second 60ft time (my second time on a drag strip in 20 years and the worst launch all week due to worrying about the lights). Net result, the first day was a complete disaster and a 19th place overall position that I would have to dig my way out of all week.
I made a few other blunders over the course of the week, but nothing that significant in the grand scheme of things (though the 2 wheels off in corner 12 at Road Atlanta cost me a 20th place finish instead of 12th, damn cones!).
Ultimately, I SHOULD have achieved my goal and finished in the top ten. Mental errors ended up being the difference. Obviously, that is something I'll work on next time.
Special thanks go out to Hye-Dra-Cyl for the awesome brakes, and Shiv at Vishnu for the power to keep the monster V8's at bay (please send more power though!).
I am finally home and trying to sift through all of the information waiting for me upon my return.
Yes, I did have a few difficulties last week - but the Subaru took them all without a hiccup. Damage was relatively minor overall. A minor bumper cover scrape and a 4 wheels off at Sandia (both my fault), an incursion with a chain link fence elaborated on below, and an interesting 2 wheels off at Road Atlanta on turn 12 (my fault, but related to cones placed in the middle of the track due to a fatality that happened a couple of weeks ago).
Generally, I got absolutely no respect - and I know these guys from years of competition. Tony Swan wouldn't write anything positive about me if his life depended on it. I had to constantly protest at being forced to grid with cars much slower than I was due to the results of the "qualifying session" (described below in the chain link fence section), and being beaten by a Subaru was something none of the other drivers were prepared to deal with.
I was breathing down Hopkins neck for 11th at TWS and he gave me some advice, which I ultimately took (though it was a little self serving from him at least). Roy told me to take it easy and preserve the class win. I only had a few overall positions that I could possibly move up to by pushing it, but the class win could disappear quickly if I made a mistake in the process of pursuing a top ten finish. While he was right, I ASSURE you that he was sweating the prospect of being beaten by an idiot driving a Subaru... I told him that while he'd finished in the top ten many times, I hadn't done that yet (and I really wanted to).
The situation with the fence was sureal. They did not run a true seeding round, instead prefering to use the results of the first event for this purpose. They were adamant about putting people out in "seeding" order - but that somehow went out the window when it came to me (these people really can't stand me).
They put David Carr out in front of me (number 54, though I was 50), and Brock Jr. said to me "I think it's the right thing to do". I responded, "I don't". David proceeded to drive at highway speeds around IRP on the reconnaisence lap, making any kind of testing of corners impossible for me. I ultimately ended up laying back and then running up on him instead. While David did nothing wrong, it messed me up in a major way.
On the first hot lap of OLOA, I got my first transition corner experience at full speed (with a new suspension setup no less) during competition. It got away from me a little, and while trying to save it, I ended up spinning off of the track. I took out a chain link fence in the process :(
I waited for the guy behind me to pass, figuring that my mistake should in no way have any consequence for another competitor, and then got back on the track. I closed on the car that I let by, and still passed the car that went out ahead of me - even with the crash and delay rejoining the track.
The car that I closed on finished 12th, so my mistake cost me over 20 finishing positions with the cone penalty added in. Very bad start. I then proceeded to blow the launch in the drag race and run a horrible 2.28 second 60ft time (my second time on a drag strip in 20 years and the worst launch all week due to worrying about the lights). Net result, the first day was a complete disaster and a 19th place overall position that I would have to dig my way out of all week.
I made a few other blunders over the course of the week, but nothing that significant in the grand scheme of things (though the 2 wheels off in corner 12 at Road Atlanta cost me a 20th place finish instead of 12th, damn cones!).
Ultimately, I SHOULD have achieved my goal and finished in the top ten. Mental errors ended up being the difference. Obviously, that is something I'll work on next time.
Special thanks go out to Hye-Dra-Cyl for the awesome brakes, and Shiv at Vishnu for the power to keep the monster V8's at bay (please send more power though!).
| SILVERSUBBY | 05-14-2002 02:27 AM |
flat bed
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRSport [/i]
[B]
This brings up something I never thought of. Ok say I just crashed on a weekend track day. Say the front wheel is badly damaged. Course workers come to rescue my car. Do I have to let them cook my differentials in order to get the car off track? [/B][/QUOTE]
No...you tell them to FLAT BED it. Isn't it a tow-truck drivers
responsibility to know whether a car is AWD and how it should
be towed? I think I read this in the Subaru manual or somewhere.
[B]
This brings up something I never thought of. Ok say I just crashed on a weekend track day. Say the front wheel is badly damaged. Course workers come to rescue my car. Do I have to let them cook my differentials in order to get the car off track? [/B][/QUOTE]
No...you tell them to FLAT BED it. Isn't it a tow-truck drivers
responsibility to know whether a car is AWD and how it should
be towed? I think I read this in the Subaru manual or somewhere.
| Crzykdd | 05-14-2002 03:21 AM |
Heres another onelap page. Altho its not a subie guy, (hes driving a supra), this guy did manage to place 4th overall, in spite of all that happens to him along the way.
Oretty good reading.
[url]http://www.onelapsupra.com[/url]
-Jason
Oretty good reading.
[url]http://www.onelapsupra.com[/url]
-Jason
| hyedracyl | 05-14-2002 11:17 AM |
When I saw the Silver Wagon being removed from the facility, it was on a flatbed. The emergency vehicles at the track are always regular wreckers (in my experience), so you shouldn't expect anything else.
| RyanC | 05-14-2002 11:27 AM |
When my tire blew at Road Atlanta on Thursday, I was towed off on a flat bed... thankfully it blew on a straight or else they would have been using a front-end loader to get me back to the paddock! :D
Greg, you seem pretty upset about the event; having run faster than many 'fast' cars myself, in a lowly Golf nonetheless (Road Atlanta being a prime example), I didn't get any of the same impressions as you did... nobody seemed to care if I was ahead of them in the run order or behind them. It's really too bad you felt this way, as I can hardly imagine most of the guys running 'up front' would care what kind of car is passing them or not. In my experience, a friendly chat with Brocker and the other cars in your run group is all you need to move to the front of the stick; catching the last guy in the pack isn't all that common so that usually suffices for getting some free track.
Anyhoo, I'm a perennial middle-of-the-pack finisher, my cars never seem to avoid event-missing problems (broken intercoolers, broken suspensions, blown head gaskets, busted fan belts, broken crack sensors, etc etc), so what do I know?
;)
Ryan
car #40
2002 VW GTI 1.8T
Greg, you seem pretty upset about the event; having run faster than many 'fast' cars myself, in a lowly Golf nonetheless (Road Atlanta being a prime example), I didn't get any of the same impressions as you did... nobody seemed to care if I was ahead of them in the run order or behind them. It's really too bad you felt this way, as I can hardly imagine most of the guys running 'up front' would care what kind of car is passing them or not. In my experience, a friendly chat with Brocker and the other cars in your run group is all you need to move to the front of the stick; catching the last guy in the pack isn't all that common so that usually suffices for getting some free track.
Anyhoo, I'm a perennial middle-of-the-pack finisher, my cars never seem to avoid event-missing problems (broken intercoolers, broken suspensions, blown head gaskets, busted fan belts, broken crack sensors, etc etc), so what do I know?
;)
Ryan
car #40
2002 VW GTI 1.8T
| hyedracyl | 05-14-2002 12:15 PM |
Ryan,
The entrants weren't the problem. The Yates crew were the ones who didn't want me anywhere near the front.
For example, when I approached Brock Jr. at Hallett for the afternoon session to discuss moving the Subaru up in the run order (I was 8th at the dirt track and 11th in the first Hallett session), Brock Sr. took one look at me approaching and stated "here comes a walking problem".
At Road Atlanta I was specifically singled out for being prevented to move down to the grid at Brock's direction. Only after a discussion with Brock personally did he give the "all clear" for me to move down to the false grid.
As for the competitors, none of the fast guys want to be beaten by a Subaru, especially one driven by a guy who has no racing pedigree. I understand and can accept that because they are competitive people by nature. It doesn't bother me, it actually comes closer to motivating me :)
I love this event, otherwise I wouldn't participate. In general, the participants are an outstanding crew whose company I look forward to basking in all year long. I greatly enjoy the chance encounters that I have with them during the rest of the year. The proprietors simply fall into another category.
The entrants weren't the problem. The Yates crew were the ones who didn't want me anywhere near the front.
For example, when I approached Brock Jr. at Hallett for the afternoon session to discuss moving the Subaru up in the run order (I was 8th at the dirt track and 11th in the first Hallett session), Brock Sr. took one look at me approaching and stated "here comes a walking problem".
At Road Atlanta I was specifically singled out for being prevented to move down to the grid at Brock's direction. Only after a discussion with Brock personally did he give the "all clear" for me to move down to the false grid.
As for the competitors, none of the fast guys want to be beaten by a Subaru, especially one driven by a guy who has no racing pedigree. I understand and can accept that because they are competitive people by nature. It doesn't bother me, it actually comes closer to motivating me :)
I love this event, otherwise I wouldn't participate. In general, the participants are an outstanding crew whose company I look forward to basking in all year long. I greatly enjoy the chance encounters that I have with them during the rest of the year. The proprietors simply fall into another category.
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