Accent lights inside the hood scoop? part 1

StewedSquirrel

11-17-2003 05:16 AM

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Accent lights inside the hood scoop?
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I was pondering ways to make my Outback Sport look a bit more sporty...

This is bordering on super-tacky, but I have never seen it done, which is why it intrigues me.

Lights on the inside of the hood scoop... Since my exterior is Red, maybe just some soft blue or maybe even green. If it were any other color, I'd go for a soft red glow "the devil is on the inside" *chuckles*

any thoughts?

Eric

dbrier

11-17-2003 07:47 AM

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I saw a WRX with a purple street Glow light inside the hood scoop. Kinda cheesy looking.

Butt Dyno

11-17-2003 08:18 AM

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Re: Accent lights inside the hood scoop?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by StewedSquirrel [/i]
[B]This is [i]bordering on[/i] super-tacky, but I have never seen it done, which is why it intrigues me.[/B][/QUOTE]
Not my thing; might not be legal in your area (like washer nozzle LED's, bc they're distracting); but if it makes you happy, go for it...

-bd

MattJP

11-17-2003 11:43 AM

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Re: Accent lights inside the hood scoop?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by StewedSquirrel [/i]
[B]I'd go for a soft red glow "the devil is on the inside" *chuckles*

any thoughts?

Eric [/B][/QUOTE]

That's what I would choose...post pics if you do it!!

Matt -

WRXGuyInUSA

11-17-2003 11:50 AM

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I had a strobe inside the scoop for a while. It looked pretty bad ass with the flash about ever second when it was parked at night.

StewedSquirrel

11-17-2003 12:10 PM

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I'm going to wire it into the relay for the accent lights on the driving lights. That way I'll be able to control it. I'm just going to use some cheap Radio Shack LEDs for now... shouldn't cost more than $10 including wiring and crimping and mounting and the works. If it's as cheesy as I'm afraid it might be, I'll yank it, but it's worth a try! :-)

Eric

Rebellion

11-17-2003 03:25 PM

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theres a couple people on here that have LED's in there that look kinda like Knight Rider.

subaru kym

11-17-2003 06:20 PM

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dbrier[/i]
[B] I saw a WRX with a purple street Glow light inside the hood scoop. Kinda cheesy looking. [/B][/QUOTE]

Saw a guy who had put LED-lit computer fans attached to either the underside of his scoop or right on top of the top mount... it looked horrible, and I'm sure it did very little performance-wise.

StewedSquirrel

11-17-2003 08:11 PM

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I think the trick is in making it a subtle "glow" rather than a bright light that illuminates the guts inside the scoop. A couple of 25mW red LEDs might just achieve that if they're mounted just under the hood at the front of the intake.

I'll post pics if I ever get around to doing it :-)

Eric

StewedSquirrel

11-17-2003 08:14 PM

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BTW, I'm doing this because I HATE the fact that the hood scoop has NO function other than to stick up at me and make my car look sorta like a WRX. :-P

I'm trying to design a scoop-mount ram-air intake... LOL Dunno if it'll work, haven't even measured yet, but it'll be fun to try to design it! :-)

Eric

Machine Age Victim

11-18-2003 10:46 AM

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by StewedSquirrel [/i]
[B]
I'm trying to design a scoop-mount ram-air intake...[/B][/QUOTE]


done, it works well :)

Subaru really nudges the aftermarket upgrades, I saw the scoop being right over the airbox as being a big Subaru saying "you put 2 and 2 together, duh"

StewedSquirrel

11-18-2003 11:19 AM

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Pics?? Details?? Did you do any testing to see if it really helps?

Do you worry about moisture?

Pics would be most excellent and appreciated.

Machine Age Victim

11-18-2003 01:49 PM

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ok first off it's not complete, I'm still looking for a WRX intercooler cowl to make it a true ram air

here is the testing for water resistance:
[IMG]http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0903/MachineAgeVictim/mud/DSC_6619.jpg[/IMG]

here is the straight on shot of the air box:
[IMG]http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0903/MachineAgeVictim/mud/DSC_9711.jpg[/IMG]
it uses a stock sized panel filter

Side view:
[IMG]http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0903/MachineAgeVictim/mud/DSC_9715.jpg[/IMG]

and the top:
[IMG]http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0903/MachineAgeVictim/mud/DSC_9718.jpg[/IMG]
you can see where the water/mud splashed against the backing and ran down from there (there are drain holes on the bottom) there wasn't any water/mud on the filter.

after doing the mod I noticed a stronger bottom end (I've ran a 1.89sec 60' time) at idle you can hear the air being sucked in and it is very loud at WOT

-jeff

StewedSquirrel

11-18-2003 02:01 PM

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Cool. Between the dirt and the close-in zoom, I still can't really see the mechanism. Where is the filter? It looks like it's mounted directly to the airbox... but that may just be a result of the odd perspective of the pictures.

Is that the stock filter box mounted directly to the intake manifold? what about the MAF, how did you get that in there???

NEEEEED MORE INFO.... FEEED MEEEE. :-)

I'm looking for ideas. :-)

Thanks,
Eric

Machine Age Victim

11-18-2003 02:09 PM

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the filter is in the stock position and the device is made of sheet metal (painted with heat blocking paint) to direct the hood scoop air to the filter

DISCOPOPE

11-18-2003 03:51 PM

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if you do neon, put it on a sound control module, so it bumps to the signal going to your bass...

just run it back along with your amp hook up line.

StewedSquirrel

11-18-2003 04:46 PM

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Hmm... I'm going for tasteful, somewhat subtle enhancements. I think a pulsing neon is a bit gawdy... :-)

Eric

Butt Dyno

11-18-2003 04:48 PM

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by StewedSquirrel [/i]
[B]Hmm... I'm going for tasteful, somewhat subtle enhancements. [/B][/QUOTE]
[quote][i]Originally posted by StewedSquirrel [/i]
[b]This is bordering on super-tacky[/b][/quote]

-bd

StewedSquirrel

11-19-2003 03:13 AM

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lol you got me. :-)

Eric

StewedSquirrel

11-19-2003 04:02 AM

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I'm looking at these pictures of the muddy CAI setup.

I still don't know if I'm seeing those pics right or not... I see a flat-box type filter connected directly to the engine intake manifold...

The MAF and the "air resorvior" box behind the intake manifold are gone...

On a "stock" setup there is a box on the back of the engine, then a long hose with MAF sensor tube connected to the filter box, which on the passenger side, above the wheel well...

The picture you show me... if indeed, the pictures is of the filter itself, it is NOT in the stock location as you say it is... It's not even close...

It looks to me like the filter is mounted squarely in the center of the engine, directly under the hood scoop...

Where's the MAF? Did you remove it? Where did you put the filter again?

more info please! :-D

(sorry, I'm insanely curious now)

Thanks

NicGordon

11-19-2003 07:14 AM

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There is no MAF in a 2000/2001.

Machine Age Victim

11-19-2003 10:33 AM

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yeah no MAF, I was also thinking of putting an L shaped bend off the manifold and have the filter fit flat against the scoop flow but that wouldn't prevent water from coming in, but it would make room for your MAF

our panale filters are in the box attached to the manifold, yours is not

StewedSquirrel

11-19-2003 11:09 AM

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Ahhh that clears it up. My car would work very poorly without the MAF... *grumbles*

Well, I guess I shall have to be creative if I still want to do it then, huh?

The RAM air is bad for the MAF. I was hoping your design compensated for that, but now i realize that you didn't need to! :-)

Thanks,
Eric

gerbs

11-19-2003 01:50 PM

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there's always going to be the biatches that say it's rice but i think it might look pretty cool



definately want to see some pics of it though..

BlaDeGC8

11-20-2003 03:31 AM

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Your crazy i would be scared of water in the filter ahhh water and compression dont mix

StewedSquirrel

11-20-2003 03:58 AM

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Like he said, driving through deep puddles doesn't result in the filter getting any water on it...

The bumper-mounted CAI ram scoops is a different story... It's like having a vacuum 6 inches from the ground sucking air into your engine.

But the hood scoop is unlikely to ever be submerged.... and even if water gets in, water goes DOWN and if the filter is drawing air up and there is drainage in the intake, i can't see it being a problem. For non-turbo, the suction generated at the intake isn't enough to "suck" water from a standing pool through the filter. It may be enough to pull water in that was already getting rammed directly into the filter (like the problems with the bumper CAI setup), but I just don't think it would have that effect on a hood scoop mount. :-)

But I still have yet to measure it... I don't think it's even possible on my MY98 the more I think about it... I need the MAF to work...

:-)

Eric

DISCOPOPE

11-20-2003 05:42 PM

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DO THE FLASH FLASH NEON NOW!
or i will send 13 german irish dock workers over to remove the fillings from your teeth!

Machine Age Victim

11-21-2003 12:32 AM

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BlaDeGC8 [/i]
[B]ahhh water and compression dont mix [/B][/QUOTE]

Your right they don't, not with my design that is :)

ok another reason it works without getting water into it is [physics mode] the filter/suction surface is large and the entrance pulling air in (the manifold) is small, so there isn't as much suction at the surface of the filter as there is at the manifold, creating less force pulling the air in and providing more breathing room, so a panal filter would have less air flow per inch than a hose [/physics mode] :D

yeah I don't know how much would be involved with making your MAF compatable, you might be interested in my second design, but it still requires the filter to be in the box, it involved routing the pipe coming off the box to feed from the hood scoop
kind of a pipe facing forward getting air forced into it from the scoop then into the box, but then you get the high power sucking going on too :lol:

-jeff

Machine Age Victim

11-21-2003 01:40 PM

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Just found this [url]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread/t-178.html[/url] I don't know how much water can get in the intake but this will work for you, I'd also fashion a cover for the filter, like a hald pipe, to cover it during rain