| funscooby | 12-10-2001 04:02 AM |
Is Autocross get this wild? (video)
Sorry I never been to an autocross I have read little about them. The most to my knowledge is a set of cones and its beat the clock against the next guy and never really made me wanna get up a 9am opn a Saturday mornin to attend one to be honst but after seeing this video it looks pretty darn fun. Please fill me in ifi its like this (SCCA ones)
Video Link
[url]http://www.dangeroustoyz.com/Videos/crazywrx.mpg[/url]
If it doesn't allow direct link just goto main url and load english or other version and its under videos last one with yellow wrx.
Video Link
[url]http://www.dangeroustoyz.com/Videos/crazywrx.mpg[/url]
If it doesn't allow direct link just goto main url and load english or other version and its under videos last one with yellow wrx.
| phread | 12-10-2001 04:20 AM |
I've never seen an autocross like that - it looks like he's just playing around with the cones. There's no way I'd race there. There's not enough room between the curbs. That would sure ruin you day to slide into a curb.
The autocrosses I've been to, have a clearly marked course that doesn't often cross itself. The speeds are quite a bit higher, around 20 - 55 MPH, and there's a lot more room that that.
Here's a short video clip from one of the Autocrosses I've been to. This is Ginowrx in the video. (I'm not that cool - my car pushed through that corner)
[url]http://atv-racing.com/autox/wrxclip.mpeg[/url]
The autocrosses I've been to, have a clearly marked course that doesn't often cross itself. The speeds are quite a bit higher, around 20 - 55 MPH, and there's a lot more room that that.
Here's a short video clip from one of the Autocrosses I've been to. This is Ginowrx in the video. (I'm not that cool - my car pushed through that corner)
[url]http://atv-racing.com/autox/wrxclip.mpeg[/url]
| 8Complex | 12-10-2001 05:03 AM |
Cool second clip there, Phread. :)
The first clip is a Japanese (I believe) competition called Gymkana (I have the original video that I downloaded a long time ago called "wrx gymkana.avi"). IIRC it was judged rather then an outright competition of driving a course.
The first clip is a Japanese (I believe) competition called Gymkana (I have the original video that I downloaded a long time ago called "wrx gymkana.avi"). IIRC it was judged rather then an outright competition of driving a course.
| WRXhauls | 12-10-2001 07:19 AM |
Nice handbrake turn in that second video - I gotta practice that before next season. What class was that WRX? Does it have a bigger rear bar?
| Lafora | 12-10-2001 08:17 AM |
that first vid resembles those Japanese Gymkhana that i see on VCDs once in a while.
except they ahve a HUGE parking lot to run it in. this one looks pretty small..
too small in fact.
except they ahve a HUGE parking lot to run it in. this one looks pretty small..
too small in fact.
| KC | 12-10-2001 09:31 AM |
Autocross is what Gymkhana evolved into here in the states. I have an uncle that used to Gymkhana competitively in the 'old' days. :)
--kC
--kC
| ChrisW | 12-10-2001 11:48 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXhauls [/i]
[B]Nice handbrake turn in that second video - I gotta practice that before next season. What class was that WRX? Does it have a bigger rear bar? [/B][/QUOTE]
No mods other than 18" wheels and a crazy driver. It also helped that the tires that Gino is running have a 300 tread wear rating (my kumo V700 are rated at 50).
Gino is a great driver, I almost regret talking him into ESP...:D He's going to be a tough competitor next year.
[B]Nice handbrake turn in that second video - I gotta practice that before next season. What class was that WRX? Does it have a bigger rear bar? [/B][/QUOTE]
No mods other than 18" wheels and a crazy driver. It also helped that the tires that Gino is running have a 300 tread wear rating (my kumo V700 are rated at 50).
Gino is a great driver, I almost regret talking him into ESP...:D He's going to be a tough competitor next year.
| stimpy | 12-10-2001 02:52 PM |
Very well excecuted corner, if I do say so myself.
-Jon
[url]www.nothingserious.net[/url]
-Jon
[url]www.nothingserious.net[/url]
| Achilles38WRX | 12-10-2001 04:43 PM |
yeow! that was one hell of a corner in that second video, i dunno if its faster to brake hard an shift into first, but the handbrake/drift certainly looked cooler!
Mark
Mark
| phread | 12-10-2001 08:58 PM |
No handbrake was used on the second video. He described what he did in this thread - [url]http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113279[/url] Imprezer said it was called a Scandinavian Flick, but it looks to me like it's pretty close to tail braking.
Gino was also the fastest WRX of the day, (out of 6 that raced) so it's not a bad way to get through the corner.
-josh
Gino was also the fastest WRX of the day, (out of 6 that raced) so it's not a bad way to get through the corner.
-josh
| funscooby | 12-11-2001 02:15 AM |
So Gymkana is just a tighter course with more manuevers?
Is there a Gymkana type race with SCCA? Now when you goto a local SCCA do they seperate the cars by engine size? If so what would a 2.5 4 cyl go agaisnt since there is not really any other car with a 2.5 4 cyl. I think the closet thing is the cav and sunfires but only 2.4.
Also any more videos? I think I may give this a try maybe get rid of some of that road rage :)
Is there a Gymkana type race with SCCA? Now when you goto a local SCCA do they seperate the cars by engine size? If so what would a 2.5 4 cyl go agaisnt since there is not really any other car with a 2.5 4 cyl. I think the closet thing is the cav and sunfires but only 2.4.
Also any more videos? I think I may give this a try maybe get rid of some of that road rage :)
| phread | 12-11-2001 02:39 AM |
I'm pretty sure there's no Gymkana in the SCCA.
But if you're looking for what cars are in the same class as the 2.5RS, and the WRX, check out this link.
[url]http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Lists/2002/stockc.html[/url]
The WRX is in D stock, and the Impreza 2.5 RS is in G stock. (assuming the car is stock)
And if you're looking for the class by car make, look here
[url]http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Lists/2002/stockm.html[/url]
-Josh
But if you're looking for what cars are in the same class as the 2.5RS, and the WRX, check out this link.
[url]http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Lists/2002/stockc.html[/url]
The WRX is in D stock, and the Impreza 2.5 RS is in G stock. (assuming the car is stock)
And if you're looking for the class by car make, look here
[url]http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Lists/2002/stockm.html[/url]
-Josh
| CivicSiRacer | 12-11-2001 09:18 AM |
Re: Is Autocross get this wild? (video)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by funscooby [/i]
[B]Sorry I never been to an autocross I have read little about them. The most to my knowledge is a set of cones and its beat the clock against the next guy and never really made me wanna get up a 9am opn a Saturday mornin to attend one to be honst but after seeing this video it looks pretty darn fun. Please fill me in ifi its like this (SCCA ones)
Video Link
[url]http://www.dangeroustoyz.com/Videos/crazywrx.mpg[/url]
If it doesn't allow direct link just goto main url and load english or other version and its under videos last one with yellow wrx. [/B][/QUOTE]
If you are interested in getting started in the SCCA - here is my help site: [url]http://home.dejazzd.com/mlouie/autocross.html[/url]
[B]Sorry I never been to an autocross I have read little about them. The most to my knowledge is a set of cones and its beat the clock against the next guy and never really made me wanna get up a 9am opn a Saturday mornin to attend one to be honst but after seeing this video it looks pretty darn fun. Please fill me in ifi its like this (SCCA ones)
Video Link
[url]http://www.dangeroustoyz.com/Videos/crazywrx.mpg[/url]
If it doesn't allow direct link just goto main url and load english or other version and its under videos last one with yellow wrx. [/B][/QUOTE]
If you are interested in getting started in the SCCA - here is my help site: [url]http://home.dejazzd.com/mlouie/autocross.html[/url]
| Patrick Olsen | 12-11-2001 10:06 AM |
funscooby, you just need to go to an event and watch. Actually, don't go and watch, go and sign up to compete. Describing an auto-x really doesn't do it justice. You just have to go do it to understand how much fun it is - you'll be addicted immediately. I used to think that I pushed my car hard when I was blasting down my favorite back roads, but at my first auto-x I pushed my car harder than I ever had before. It's amazing how much you can learn about driving when you don't need to worry about getting nailed for speeding or sliding off the road into a rock wall or a tree.
Anyway, here are a couple more videos:
(1) [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/8-5-01%20Autocross/JoeZanavich.mpg[/url] (3.6MB) - This is my buddy Joe's SCCA ITE-class road race Mustang. It has a 500+hp 331ci stroker - strong enough to smoke slicks through 2nd gear. :D This video encompasses about half the course.
(2) [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/8-5-01%20Autocross/Legacy_bumper_cam_no_sound.mpg[/url] (5.2MB) - This is a bumper cam shot of my Legacy running through the course on the same day. Unfortunately the audio capture was all hosed up, so I had to capture it without sound. Oh, by the way, this was the first event at which I beat Joe's Mustang. :)
This was a non-SCCA event, so the course design is more open than you'll see at most SCCA events.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
Anyway, here are a couple more videos:
(1) [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/8-5-01%20Autocross/JoeZanavich.mpg[/url] (3.6MB) - This is my buddy Joe's SCCA ITE-class road race Mustang. It has a 500+hp 331ci stroker - strong enough to smoke slicks through 2nd gear. :D This video encompasses about half the course.
(2) [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/8-5-01%20Autocross/Legacy_bumper_cam_no_sound.mpg[/url] (5.2MB) - This is a bumper cam shot of my Legacy running through the course on the same day. Unfortunately the audio capture was all hosed up, so I had to capture it without sound. Oh, by the way, this was the first event at which I beat Joe's Mustang. :)
This was a non-SCCA event, so the course design is more open than you'll see at most SCCA events.
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
| Patrick L | 12-11-2001 11:33 AM |
here's a video of me. The camera is mounted on the right rear door.
[url]http://www.megapathdsl.net/~todd/iclub/stlday2run4.mpg[/url]
[url]http://www.megapathdsl.net/~todd/iclub/stlday2run4.mpg[/url]
| TyrannoSullyRex | 12-11-2001 12:28 PM |
That's really cool you can actually see the understeer happening.
| stimpy | 12-11-2001 12:30 PM |
:lol:
| Patrick L | 12-11-2001 04:47 PM |
understeer? well, a little in the big carocel.
For the most, not on that course. More over steer. It was a slick course cause of the light sand on the course. There is a sand quary next door and wind was blowing sand on the course.
For the most, not on that course. More over steer. It was a slick course cause of the light sand on the course. There is a sand quary next door and wind was blowing sand on the course.
| Atlas' Kids | 12-11-2001 11:19 PM |
Rev!
Hey KC... Go'head... Bounce it off that limiter!! Sweet!
| trojan9x | 12-12-2001 02:43 PM |
hey KC, how did you mount your camera and what kind of camera is it?
i would love to tape some of my races, but wouldn't know where to start.
i would love to tape some of my races, but wouldn't know where to start.
| Patrick L | 12-12-2001 08:45 PM |
It's a X10 Anaconda camera, taped to the side of the back door.
Here is a link to where you can get the camera.
[url]http://www.x10.com/products/x10_sc18a.htm[/url]
Pat
Here is a link to where you can get the camera.
[url]http://www.x10.com/products/x10_sc18a.htm[/url]
Pat
| DoctorNick | 12-13-2001 03:28 AM |
GREAT QUALITY VIDEO! I am suprise of the cameras quality. (not your driving :D ) what are you recording onto? how do you have it wired up?
| Patrick L | 12-13-2001 01:46 PM |
Well let me give you the details. My setup is accually 2 cameras. The first is the camera over the back set(see below).
[img]http://home.swbell.net/pdlip1/mount1.jpg[/img]
I run a output for audio from the C-VHS to a VCR and is straped to the seat of the back seat. I connect the X10 to the VCR for video and use the C-VHS camera for sound cause the mic on the X10 picks up way too much sound. So all you would hear is a bunch of wind noise. I use a inverter to supply AC power to the VCR and X10 camera. You can power the X10 with 12VDC. It comes with a power supply when you buy one, to convert AC to DC. If you had a DC powered VCR. Well you could power both off the 12vDC from the car.
Pat
[img]http://home.swbell.net/pdlip1/mount1.jpg[/img]
I run a output for audio from the C-VHS to a VCR and is straped to the seat of the back seat. I connect the X10 to the VCR for video and use the C-VHS camera for sound cause the mic on the X10 picks up way too much sound. So all you would hear is a bunch of wind noise. I use a inverter to supply AC power to the VCR and X10 camera. You can power the X10 with 12VDC. It comes with a power supply when you buy one, to convert AC to DC. If you had a DC powered VCR. Well you could power both off the 12vDC from the car.
Pat
| NoSaabs | 12-13-2001 02:01 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by funscooby [/i]
[B]So Gymkana is just a tighter course with more manuevers?
Is there a Gymkana type race with SCCA? Now when you goto a local SCCA do they seperate the cars by engine size? If so what would a 2.5 4 cyl go agaisnt since there is not really any other car with a 2.5 4 cyl. I think the closet thing is the cav and sunfires but only 2.4. [/B][/QUOTE]
porsche 944 has a 2.5ltr 4 :)
[B]So Gymkana is just a tighter course with more manuevers?
Is there a Gymkana type race with SCCA? Now when you goto a local SCCA do they seperate the cars by engine size? If so what would a 2.5 4 cyl go agaisnt since there is not really any other car with a 2.5 4 cyl. I think the closet thing is the cav and sunfires but only 2.4. [/B][/QUOTE]
porsche 944 has a 2.5ltr 4 :)
| Patrick L | 12-14-2001 12:32 PM |
bump
| donjuan | 12-14-2001 01:00 PM |
Pat you are blazing fast :) Cool vid man...
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