| epaplia | 01-18-2006 02:52 PM |
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Could anyone give me some advise on what to do if I wanna take my car to willow springs???? I believe this is the closest to me (south orange county)
Im new at the track thing, but...ive dragged my car
And now i wanna see what it will do with some turns...
I would like to get into it a little more, but im not sure what to expect.
I went to the website...but im still a little lost.
Could someone enlighten me? Maybe a direct link?
Thanks.
Im new at the track thing, but...ive dragged my car
And now i wanna see what it will do with some turns...
I would like to get into it a little more, but im not sure what to expect.
I went to the website...but im still a little lost.
Could someone enlighten me? Maybe a direct link?
Thanks.
| GarySheehan | 01-18-2006 04:12 PM |
[url]http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| epaplia | 01-19-2006 02:50 AM |
thanks :)
| AWDgotPWNED | 01-27-2006 01:55 AM |
ur gay. we all know wrx's suck at the track. stick to pcking on little 4 door civics
| 99subi | 01-27-2006 02:12 AM |
troll ^^ or asshat wich are you ?
| AWDgotPWNED | 01-27-2006 02:15 AM |
you will understand soon enough
| makofoto | 01-27-2006 02:16 AM |
You might want to also try Auto Crossing ... we race at CA Speedway almost every month. [url]http://www.solo2.com/[/url]
A little safer when you are starting off plus you can drive at and over the limit without typically damaging your car.
Team Blew will be hosting a hybrid Auto Cross/Track Day in the Willow Springs area next month. But you must already have track or auto cross experience for this event.
Check out our message board: [url]http://www.teamblewracing.org/welcome.aspx[/url]
A little safer when you are starting off plus you can drive at and over the limit without typically damaging your car.
Team Blew will be hosting a hybrid Auto Cross/Track Day in the Willow Springs area next month. But you must already have track or auto cross experience for this event.
Check out our message board: [url]http://www.teamblewracing.org/welcome.aspx[/url]
| jmolaver | 01-27-2006 10:53 AM |
Skip the autocross and do a HPDE.. You'll get an instructor in your car so you'll learn much more then you would scrambling around an autox course for 50 seconds at a time..
NASA events are great, you'll get a lot of track time along with a moderate amount of classroom time, good instructors, and most likely there will be some real races you can watch when you're not busy..
NASA events are great, you'll get a lot of track time along with a moderate amount of classroom time, good instructors, and most likely there will be some real races you can watch when you're not busy..
| Patrick L | 01-27-2006 11:46 AM |
No, I say do autocross before you go to a HPDE. Get with some that has be doing it for a whilethat can give you tips. IMO this will help in the car control aspect and help you find the limits of the car. I have seen people go straight to the track and end up finding the limits there and tearing up there car as in find a concrete or tire wall.
| jmolaver | 01-27-2006 01:17 PM |
[QUOTE=Top_Dog]No, I say do autocross before you go to a HPDE. Get with some that has be doing it for a whilethat can give you tips. IMO this will help in the car control aspect and help you find the limits of the car. I have seen people go straight to the track and end up finding the limits there and tearing up there car as in find a concrete or tire wall.[/QUOTE]
Typical response from a cone dodger :rolleyes: :p
"getting with someone that has been doing it for a while that can give you tips" vs a certified instructor who has done a minimum of 30odd track days and passed a full day instructor program..
honestly which do you think can teach you more?
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, I just think that people can come away with more from a track event then an autox simply because of the instruction available...
Typical response from a cone dodger :rolleyes: :p
"getting with someone that has been doing it for a while that can give you tips" vs a certified instructor who has done a minimum of 30odd track days and passed a full day instructor program..
honestly which do you think can teach you more?
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, I just think that people can come away with more from a track event then an autox simply because of the instruction available...
| tuskenraider | 01-27-2006 01:26 PM |
Cone dodgers make better pothole dodgers....... :p
| epaplia | 01-27-2006 01:40 PM |
Alright well thanks for the responses guys and I'll be looking into both.
I'll post up something when I get done to inform those who care.
Thanks again
-Eric
I'll post up something when I get done to inform those who care.
Thanks again
-Eric
| epaplia | 01-27-2006 01:43 PM |
[QUOTE=AWDgotPWNED]ur gay. we all know wrx's suck at the track. stick to pcking on little 4 door civics[/QUOTE]
I think I have seen a guy at california speedway with a brown one of these that ran the same 1/4 mile time as this guy ^^^...
Cept this guy that im talking about looks too old to be starting crap on forums..Plus when I talked to him, he was way nice and mellow.
I think I have seen a guy at california speedway with a brown one of these that ran the same 1/4 mile time as this guy ^^^...
Cept this guy that im talking about looks too old to be starting crap on forums..Plus when I talked to him, he was way nice and mellow.
| MBasile | 01-27-2006 01:46 PM |
check out the NASA events...they are great. I just did one last weekend and it was my first time too. They provided me with a good instructor. You should get a track map before hand to figure out the racing lines. Also (theres some debate about this) but I'd play a game like GT4. It isnt exactly the same, so dont try to use it to memorize the lines perfectly, but use to to familiarize yourself with the track at eye level
| Cloaked | 01-27-2006 01:52 PM |
California speed way is closer to you than Willow springs, two groups that I know of are having events there this year, Speedventures.com and Redline trackevents.com check them.
| Patrick L | 01-27-2006 05:38 PM |
[QUOTE=jmolaver]Typical response from a cone dodger :rolleyes: :p
"getting with someone that has been doing it for a while that can give you tips" vs a certified instructor who has done a minimum of 30odd track days and passed a full day instructor program..
honestly which do you think can teach you more?
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, I just think that people can come away with more from a track event then an autox simply because of the instruction available...[/QUOTE]
Well I know from experience as I have been autocrossing and tracking daying since I have had the car.
"getting with someone that has been doing it for a while that can give you tips" vs a certified instructor who has done a minimum of 30odd track days and passed a full day instructor program..
honestly which do you think can teach you more?
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, I just think that people can come away with more from a track event then an autox simply because of the instruction available...[/QUOTE]
Well I know from experience as I have been autocrossing and tracking daying since I have had the car.
| GarySheehan | 01-27-2006 06:14 PM |
Both autocross and track days have their advantages in the learning process. At autocross you can safely explore the limits of handling in low speed corners. Great for building confidence and understanding the car during transition. Which is also good for car control and catching mistakes.
At HPDE you get in-car instruction, repetitive laps to practice needed skills and the opportunity to learn risk management and become familiar with higher speeds in steady-state medium and high speed corners.
For someone just starting out, it's a toss up of which one to start in. Autocross is definitely the less expensive and safer option.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
At HPDE you get in-car instruction, repetitive laps to practice needed skills and the opportunity to learn risk management and become familiar with higher speeds in steady-state medium and high speed corners.
For someone just starting out, it's a toss up of which one to start in. Autocross is definitely the less expensive and safer option.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| makofoto | 01-28-2006 01:02 AM |
The Southern CA auto cross scene is blessed with an incredible number of National AX Champions ... they give as much free in-car instruction as you want. Between the various events in Los Angeles and San Diego I can easily get 30, 40 runs a month in. An AX run has more inputs per lap then your typical road course lap. We are working on getting more and more practice days.
| burnera | 01-28-2006 01:18 AM |
from my experience..
track day itself:
be a passenger for a lap or two. try to remember the course and get a feel for the speeds (very generic speeds).
then get in the car as a driver and with an instructor.
track day itself:
be a passenger for a lap or two. try to remember the course and get a feel for the speeds (very generic speeds).
then get in the car as a driver and with an instructor.
| MPME | 01-28-2006 01:21 AM |
[QUOTE=Cloaked]California speed way is closer to you than Willow springs, two groups that I know of are having events there this year, Speedventures.com and Redline trackevents.com check them.[/QUOTE]
A friend of mine has a ridiculously comprehensive calendar of motorsports events--it's a free service at [url]http://www.motorsportreg.com/calendar/[/url]
It'd be perfect for you (or anyone else) that wants to know what events are happening, and where. I think he has about 500 events on his national calendar, including Speedventures, etc.
A friend of mine has a ridiculously comprehensive calendar of motorsports events--it's a free service at [url]http://www.motorsportreg.com/calendar/[/url]
It'd be perfect for you (or anyone else) that wants to know what events are happening, and where. I think he has about 500 events on his national calendar, including Speedventures, etc.
| epaplia | 01-28-2006 04:49 AM |
awesome, i'll look into everything.
Thanks a bunch guys :)
Thanks a bunch guys :)
| STi/AE86 | 01-28-2006 05:59 AM |
AutoX is sweet but I really dig track days because I really don't feel like I get enough seat time at an AutoX event to improve by any noticable measure. Whereas on a track day you get to practice quite a while and for me personally on track days have been where things "click" and I notice that I tend to grow as a driver (or at least consciously notice myself learning specific things better) during the track sessions I've had a lot more than at an AutoX.
AutoX is really cool still though because since a run is a pretty fast blast it teaches you how to minimize your mistakes and be extra sensitive to your car because you're not going to get over and over to practice it. Plus you get to play around with your braking points and so forth, not to mention dodging cones is fuunnn! I like it for those attributes.
AutoX is really cool still though because since a run is a pretty fast blast it teaches you how to minimize your mistakes and be extra sensitive to your car because you're not going to get over and over to practice it. Plus you get to play around with your braking points and so forth, not to mention dodging cones is fuunnn! I like it for those attributes.
| kursplat | 01-29-2006 01:30 AM |
[URL=http://www.americancarracing.com/events.html]these guys[/URL] put on a great event at willow springs. very good for the newbie. limited passing (on the straights only) and ride alongs if you like.
but i got to say [URL=http://www.teamblewracing.org/Content2.aspx?h=4&ct=1]the auto-x thing[/URL] is even cooler. and there is allot less concern about possible problems getting your car home at the end of the day. but which ever, have fun :devil:
but i got to say [URL=http://www.teamblewracing.org/Content2.aspx?h=4&ct=1]the auto-x thing[/URL] is even cooler. and there is allot less concern about possible problems getting your car home at the end of the day. but which ever, have fun :devil:
| epaplia | 01-30-2006 05:42 PM |
Cool Cool.
Just curious....Do any of you hang around the So Cal area alot and go to any of the meets??
If so...Which ones???
Thanks.
Just curious....Do any of you hang around the So Cal area alot and go to any of the meets??
If so...Which ones???
Thanks.
| makofoto | 01-30-2006 06:20 PM |
Yeah ... our meets are the Auto Crosses that we go to twice a month, usually ending up getting dinner and brew.
btw. I was at Willow Springs yesterday scouting Horse Thief Mile for an upcoming hybrid AX/Track day. Talked to a number of people doing a track day on the big track. A STI owner said that the track was boring but that he did like driving Laguna Seca. He wants to come out and try AX'ing.
A fellow Auto Crosser who was also an instructor that day, drives a prepared new '06 Z-06 with 530 hp, racing tires, Penske 2 way adjustable struts, upgrade brake pads and fluid, loves both AX'ing and Track days. He loves the speed of the track but he loves the precision and intensity of Auto Crossing. I rode along for five laps. The new Z-06 is pretty amazing! We were hitting 147 at the end of the straight. I believe him when he said he was hitting 150 without me. We were turning laps in the low 1:30's. A bit scary accelerating into Turn 8 at over 130 ... without a roll cage.
Another SCCA CSCC Autocrosser who runs a Street Modified 2 C-5 Vette said that he likes the tighter road courses like Streets of Willow, which he drives like he AX's, but that the long course lacked the intensity of auto crossing. In Auto Crossing if your hand isn't shaking when you reach for your time slip, you weren't going fast enough. He said he only got that "thrill" when he scared himself on a road course.
[IMG]http://images15.fotki.com/v269/photos/4/43793/3161386/MakoTerryFree-vi.jpg[/img]
btw. I was at Willow Springs yesterday scouting Horse Thief Mile for an upcoming hybrid AX/Track day. Talked to a number of people doing a track day on the big track. A STI owner said that the track was boring but that he did like driving Laguna Seca. He wants to come out and try AX'ing.
A fellow Auto Crosser who was also an instructor that day, drives a prepared new '06 Z-06 with 530 hp, racing tires, Penske 2 way adjustable struts, upgrade brake pads and fluid, loves both AX'ing and Track days. He loves the speed of the track but he loves the precision and intensity of Auto Crossing. I rode along for five laps. The new Z-06 is pretty amazing! We were hitting 147 at the end of the straight. I believe him when he said he was hitting 150 without me. We were turning laps in the low 1:30's. A bit scary accelerating into Turn 8 at over 130 ... without a roll cage.
Another SCCA CSCC Autocrosser who runs a Street Modified 2 C-5 Vette said that he likes the tighter road courses like Streets of Willow, which he drives like he AX's, but that the long course lacked the intensity of auto crossing. In Auto Crossing if your hand isn't shaking when you reach for your time slip, you weren't going fast enough. He said he only got that "thrill" when he scared himself on a road course.
[IMG]http://images15.fotki.com/v269/photos/4/43793/3161386/MakoTerryFree-vi.jpg[/img]
| esper | 01-31-2006 04:31 PM |
[QUOTE=jmolaver]Typical response from a cone dodger :rolleyes:
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, [/QUOTE]
Nope, just to derail this one into an autocross vs. roadracing thread. Less sarcasm, more information is helpful when dealing with first timers.
Not trying to incite [i]another[/i] autocross vs. roadracing thread, [/QUOTE]
Nope, just to derail this one into an autocross vs. roadracing thread. Less sarcasm, more information is helpful when dealing with first timers.
| jmolaver | 02-02-2006 05:14 PM |
[QUOTE=esper]Nope, just to derail this one into an autocross vs. roadracing thread. Less sarcasm, more information is helpful when dealing with first timers.[/QUOTE]
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Learn to deal with a little sarcasm, it's the internet..
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