| tensionrev | 01-25-2002 02:31 PM |
New manufacturers in WRC 2k3?
I read on [URL=http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/NewsDetail/2002_DavidRichards.htm]WRC.com[/URL] that they are hoping for more (possibly 10) manufacturers in future seasons. Suzuki would be number eight, I wonder who else? Audi S4? (Lots of rally history, but are they not trying to establish themselves as a luxury brand?) VW? (OK, but please, please, please NOT the bug, unless they get a female driver, which would be very cool.) I could see Dodge jumping in to the fray (neon), but do they sell cars in Europe? Do they have to? GM, perhaps with Opel? Forgive me if my facts are wrong. What does everyone think? Speculate away.
P.S. If Loeb wins in Sweden (and\or continues to drive so well), will we be looking at the Tiger Woods of rallying?
P.S. If Loeb wins in Sweden (and\or continues to drive so well), will we be looking at the Tiger Woods of rallying?
| DonA | 01-25-2002 02:49 PM |
I expect to see either Toyota or Seat to return.
As for Loeb I don't expect much from him in Sweden. Teammate Thomas Radstrom however will be one to watch if the Xsara is up to the task.
Oh and I still think there is more to the Citroen tire story on the Monte.
As for Loeb I don't expect much from him in Sweden. Teammate Thomas Radstrom however will be one to watch if the Xsara is up to the task.
Oh and I still think there is more to the Citroen tire story on the Monte.
| In2Deep | 01-25-2002 02:50 PM |
Well, remember the WRC isn't just a European sport. It actually takes place in many different places... the drivers are actually trying to get the US in on the list as well. Many of the cars that compete in the WRC aren't sold in most of the countries it's run in... so I don't think we'll have to worry about it... as for more more manufacturer's participating, that would be great as it would pump more attention, publicity and money into the sport! :)
| Imprezard | 01-25-2002 03:25 PM |
Since Germany is now one of the rallies in WRC, I hope there will be a German manufacturer in event. Audi is nice, but I think VW Golf seems like a perfect choice. There are AWD Golfs around anyway :)
Toyota is now into F1, like Honda. I think it's hard for them to handle 2 world motorsport events... Ford is the only exception I can think of, but they earned too much money from selling crappy cars (not all but many)! :D
Toyota is now into F1, like Honda. I think it's hard for them to handle 2 world motorsport events... Ford is the only exception I can think of, but they earned too much money from selling crappy cars (not all but many)! :D
| TimStevens | 01-25-2002 03:34 PM |
I think we'd be VERY likely to see VW in the "big show" sometime soon. Check out their new Super 1600 Polo :)
[IMG]http://www.clubh2o.com/Gallery/PoloWRC1600.jpg[/IMG]
Very cool looking car.
-tim
[IMG]http://www.clubh2o.com/Gallery/PoloWRC1600.jpg[/IMG]
Very cool looking car.
-tim
| johnfelstead | 01-25-2002 03:40 PM |
Loeb isnt exactly Tiger woods.
He has some tallent but he isnt better than the rest out there. He isnt doing this as a kid either, the guy is 27. The Citroen has been developed for 2 years with tarmac only in mind, thats why they are doing 4 gravell events this year, to get ready for a full season in 2003.
Loeb has a lot to learn, he has the ability for tarmac it seams but loose surface stuff is a diferet ballgame and needs diferent driving techniques that are alien to someone only acustomed to driving on sealed surfaces.
I hope the guy does go quickly because that will mean we have an extra dimension to the championship. It's too early to think he has the pace to take on the likes of McRae, Burns and Makinen in a season long battle though.
P.S He is French so it's my duty as a brit to slag him off. :lol: j/k
He has some tallent but he isnt better than the rest out there. He isnt doing this as a kid either, the guy is 27. The Citroen has been developed for 2 years with tarmac only in mind, thats why they are doing 4 gravell events this year, to get ready for a full season in 2003.
Loeb has a lot to learn, he has the ability for tarmac it seams but loose surface stuff is a diferet ballgame and needs diferent driving techniques that are alien to someone only acustomed to driving on sealed surfaces.
I hope the guy does go quickly because that will mean we have an extra dimension to the championship. It's too early to think he has the pace to take on the likes of McRae, Burns and Makinen in a season long battle though.
P.S He is French so it's my duty as a brit to slag him off. :lol: j/k
| JamesC | 01-25-2002 03:54 PM |
I would love to see a VAG product besides Skoda in the WRC but I wonder if they would put VW in? VW and Skoda are now both in the Premium VAG line (Bentley, Bugatti, VW, Skoda) with Audi, Lambo, Seat in the Sports VAG business.
I would love to see another Audi Rally car but it would have to be the A3? S4 = NO WAY - TOO BIG.
JamesC
I would love to see another Audi Rally car but it would have to be the A3? S4 = NO WAY - TOO BIG.
JamesC
| brainrally | 01-25-2002 05:58 PM |
I can see it now. GM joins the rally fray. And a new generation Chevy Cavalier, with AWD (guess where that comes from?) and a turbocharged version of the Ecotec (was that how it was spelled?) 4 cylinder engine.
Give me a second to put my flame suit on.... :p
I'm kidding here, of course. I seriously doubt GM has any interest in WRC.
Give me a second to put my flame suit on.... :p
I'm kidding here, of course. I seriously doubt GM has any interest in WRC.
| In2Deep | 01-25-2002 07:11 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]I think we'd be VERY likely to see VW in the "big show" sometime soon. Check out their new Super 1600 Polo :)
[IMG]http://www.clubh2o.com/Gallery/PoloWRC1600.jpg[/IMG]
Very cool looking car.
-tim [/B][/QUOTE]
Tim, the Polo looks sick! Kinda like the illegitamate offspring of a one night stand between a Ford Focus and a Mercedes?! :eek:
To tell the truth, I like it.
I would really like to see an Audi in the mix... S3 perhaps? :devil:
[B]I think we'd be VERY likely to see VW in the "big show" sometime soon. Check out their new Super 1600 Polo :)
[IMG]http://www.clubh2o.com/Gallery/PoloWRC1600.jpg[/IMG]
Very cool looking car.
-tim [/B][/QUOTE]
Tim, the Polo looks sick! Kinda like the illegitamate offspring of a one night stand between a Ford Focus and a Mercedes?! :eek:
To tell the truth, I like it.
I would really like to see an Audi in the mix... S3 perhaps? :devil:
| johnfelstead | 01-25-2002 07:27 PM |
GM have a car in the F1600 championship being driven by the guy who came 3rd last year, Niall McShae.
It's an Opel Corsa.
Under WRC rules you dont have to make a production car with AWD, thats the whole point of the World Rally Car rules replacing GroupA. Thats how the Focus, 206, Octavia, Xara etc can compete.
It's an Opel Corsa.
Under WRC rules you dont have to make a production car with AWD, thats the whole point of the World Rally Car rules replacing GroupA. Thats how the Focus, 206, Octavia, Xara etc can compete.
| TimStevens | 01-25-2002 07:41 PM |
Yeah, it's a gorgeous car. Check out vwvortex for more pics. Here's a couple:
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo15.jpg[/IMG]
Beeeeeautiful. :)
-tim
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.worldrallynews.com/photos/essenPolo15.jpg[/IMG]
Beeeeeautiful. :)
-tim
| grumbly | 01-26-2002 12:27 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by brainrally [/i]
[B]I can see it now. GM joins the rally fray. And a new generation Chevy Cavalier, with AWD (guess where that comes from?) and a turbocharged version of the Ecotec (was that how it was spelled?) 4 cylinder engine. [/B][/QUOTE]
hehe naa.. it will probably be a saturn :lol:
anyone still have that picture of the rally saturn around? I can just see the adds now.. "Its a rally car.. with three doors!"
[B]I can see it now. GM joins the rally fray. And a new generation Chevy Cavalier, with AWD (guess where that comes from?) and a turbocharged version of the Ecotec (was that how it was spelled?) 4 cylinder engine. [/B][/QUOTE]
hehe naa.. it will probably be a saturn :lol:
anyone still have that picture of the rally saturn around? I can just see the adds now.. "Its a rally car.. with three doors!"
| JamesC | 01-26-2002 10:01 AM |
I wish we had a spec class for Rally here in NA. Would be another good way to get things started. $15k arrive and drive or $8k you work and haul the car sounds good to me :)
JamesC
JamesC
| JamesC | 01-26-2002 10:08 AM |
Maybe we can talk [URL=http://www.vw-racing.com]VW Racing[/URL] into bringing their "International Polo Challenge" to the US :) [IMG]http://www.volkswagenracing.de/rennserien/int_polo_challenge/images/underhead_polo_start_2000.jpg[/IMG] Only €19.000!
or Golf?
[IMG]http://www.volkswagenracing.de/kundencenter/images2001/underhead_kundenc_2001_1.jpg[/IMG]
Der perfekte Einstieg für Nachwuchs- und Breitensportler
Bei einem Preis zwischen € 19.000 und € 21.000 inkl. MwSt. bietet der Racing-Polo Nachwuchsfahrern und Breitensportlern finanzierbare Einstiegsmöglichkeiten in den unterschiedlichsten nationalen und internationalen Rennsport-Kategorien, wie etwa der BF Goodridge Langstreckenmeisterschaft oder dem 24-Stunden-Rennen auf dem Nürburgring. Rallyefreunde können in der Deutschen Rallye-Meisterschaft, der Deutschen Rallye-Trophäe oder der Rallyecross-EM an den Start gehen.
or Golf?
[IMG]http://www.volkswagenracing.de/kundencenter/images2001/underhead_kundenc_2001_1.jpg[/IMG]
Der perfekte Einstieg für Nachwuchs- und Breitensportler
Bei einem Preis zwischen € 19.000 und € 21.000 inkl. MwSt. bietet der Racing-Polo Nachwuchsfahrern und Breitensportlern finanzierbare Einstiegsmöglichkeiten in den unterschiedlichsten nationalen und internationalen Rennsport-Kategorien, wie etwa der BF Goodridge Langstreckenmeisterschaft oder dem 24-Stunden-Rennen auf dem Nürburgring. Rallyefreunde können in der Deutschen Rallye-Meisterschaft, der Deutschen Rallye-Trophäe oder der Rallyecross-EM an den Start gehen.
| Nargaredama | 01-26-2002 11:11 PM |
Two Things
I don't see why the Audi A/S4 couldn't compete in the WRC. After all the Skoda car uses the same chassis.
My prediction for new entrants for 2003 would be Mini, Opel, and Nissan (a long shot). All three had very successful teams in the past. I'm sure BMW wants to get involved in rallying somehow and with their ownership of Mini the brand image and history is there. The revival of Nissan could possibly bring the return of the Z car into rallying.
Scott
My prediction for new entrants for 2003 would be Mini, Opel, and Nissan (a long shot). All three had very successful teams in the past. I'm sure BMW wants to get involved in rallying somehow and with their ownership of Mini the brand image and history is there. The revival of Nissan could possibly bring the return of the Z car into rallying.
Scott
| JUNSube | 01-27-2002 12:18 AM |
johnfelstead : They make an AWD version of the Focus. It's called the Cosworth or RS or the combination of the two, don't remember but they do exist.
Aron
Aron
| JamesC | 01-27-2002 12:20 AM |
The Octavia is based off the same platform as the SEAT Toledo/Leon, Audi A/S3,TT, VW Golf/Beetle/Jetta-Bora. Not the same as the B5 A4/S4. If you thought the Octavia looked huge on stage (which I personally always think when I see it - even though I love it in the WRC) can you imagine how ungainly an A/S4/Passat would seem :eek:
| Nargaredama | 01-27-2002 01:40 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JamesC [/i]
[B]The Octavia is based off the same platform as the SEAT Toledo/Leon, Audi A/S3,TT, VW Golf/Beetle/Jetta-Bora. Not the same as the B5 A4/S4. If you thought the Octavia looked huge on stage (which I personally always think when I see it - even though I love it in the WRC) can you imagine how ungainly an A/S4/Passat would seem :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
I stand corrected...I got the Ocatvia and the Superb mixed up.
[B]The Octavia is based off the same platform as the SEAT Toledo/Leon, Audi A/S3,TT, VW Golf/Beetle/Jetta-Bora. Not the same as the B5 A4/S4. If you thought the Octavia looked huge on stage (which I personally always think when I see it - even though I love it in the WRC) can you imagine how ungainly an A/S4/Passat would seem :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
I stand corrected...I got the Ocatvia and the Superb mixed up.
| johnfelstead | 01-27-2002 07:48 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JUNSube [/i]
[B]johnfelstead : They make an AWD version of the Focus. It's called the Cosworth or RS or the combination of the two, don't remember but they do exist.
Aron [/B][/QUOTE]
No they dont, the Focus RS is a FWD car. There is no AWD Cosworth Focus in production. There was a concept car built for a motor show that may apear in production but it does not exist yet as a car you can buy.
the concept Focus Cosworth
[img]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/focuscos3.jpg[/img]
the Focus RS
[img]http://www.fasterfords.com/rsfocus/pictures/focus_rs_04.jpg[/img]
Spec for the Focus RS
Engine: Ford 2.0-litre Zetec engine 4-cylinder, 16 valve.
Electronic Ford Engine Management Syetem.
Garrett turbocharger. Catalytic convertor.
Intercooler: Water/air intercooler
Power: 200+ bhp
Torque: 320 Nm (approximately)
Drive system: Front wheel drive with Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing Differential.
Transmission: Uprated MTX-75 5-speed, unique gear ratios, AP racing clutch
Suspension: Front Macpherson struts, Sachs dampers Rear Control Blade multi-link, Sachs dampers
Brakes: Front 330 mm ventilated discs with Brembo calipers Rear 280 mm ventilated discs Electronic ABS
Wheels: OZ Racing 18" 5-spoke alloy wheels
Tyres: Michelin 225/45 R18
Colour: Ford Racing Blue only
Latest News from Ford
Geneva, February 27, 2001 - A full production specification, road-ready version of the Ford Focus RS, inspired by Ford's World Rally Championship car, breaks cover at the 2001 Geneva Auto Show.
Following the exterior reveal of Focus RS at last year's British International Motor Show in Birmingham comes a production ready car with fully engineered RS chassis, 200-plus-PS engine and drivetrain, plus a unique interior package, with styling cues straight from the WRC contender.
Conceived and produced in just 15 months, Focus RS marks an industry first for speed of development. Significantly, it is the first Ford product in five years to wear the famed RS insignia on its flank.
Under the guidance of Ford of Europe Vice President of Product Development Martin Leach, the creation of the Focus RS is further proof of Ford's product-led transformation in Europe, and Leach's commitment to delivering a menu of performance derivatives to European customers.
It is the ultimate front-wheel-drive, high-performance road-going Focus.
While the Focus RS is clearly derived from the standard production model, around 70 per cent of the basic components have been changed or re-engineered. It fully meets Ford's stringent criteria for mass production vehicles, especially with regard to safety, quality and engineering excellence. The car will enter production at the Saarlouis plant in Germany in the summer of 2001, and be introduced thereafter in selected European markets.
Meeting the handling challenge
To achieve the required handling prowess in conjunction with the new 2.0 litre, turbocharged Duratec RS engine, Focus RS presented a number of design and engineering challenges in order to achieve one of its main objectives, that of transmitting more than 200 PS through the front wheels.
A critical part of the Focus RS handling solution relies on the redesigned front suspension. Changes include a wider front track - increased to WRC tarmac specification to provide further benefits in handling. Sachs Racing dampers and matched springs are incorporated to handle the increase in loads and provide superior body control. Improvements in kinematics and additional rebound travel on the front suspension of the car have been tuned to ensure that during cornering, the inside front tyre remains loaded and firmly in contact with the road.
Another key aspect of front wheel control is a Quaife automatic torque-biasing differential, designed for optimum traction. This sophisticated unit quickly detects a reduction in the level of drive to a front wheel and seamlessly distributes torque to prevent wheelspin.
Aiding the system is revised static negative camber for the front suspension geometry. The rear engine mount and cross-member are upgraded to cope with the higher shock loads and torque and an 18mm front anti-roll bar is included to maximise traction whilst maintaining handling precision. Brembo 325mm ventilated discs and four-pot callipers provide vice-like retardation at all speeds.
Standard Focus steering includes a quick rack with 2.9 turns lock-to-lock and this is retained and retuned for increased responsiveness along with a revised power steering pump. The outstanding balance of torque and race-inspired vehicle response give Focus RS unrivalled steering control, feel and agility.
At the rear, the revolutionary Focus Control Blade multi-link rear suspension is retained, but increased in stiffness for greater durability. This set-up is complemented with Sachs Racing dampers, increased negative camber, higher load capacity bearings, redesigned spindles and anti-rollbar link for improved roll stiffness. The braking system comprises solid 280mm discs with conventional two-pot calipers.
Completing the chassis transformation is a bespoke set of 18-inch diameter OZ Racing light alloy wheels, fitted with 225/40R18 Michelin low profile tyres developed specifically for Focus RS. Considerable work has gone in to fine tuning the tyre characteristics to optimise the vehicle's handling and performance potential.
Combined, the chassis modifications provide Focus RS with outstanding body control. Front and rear roll stiffness has been optimised to provide the ultimate handling balance and yaw response.
Power by Duratec RS
Focus RS utilises a modified version of the Duratec four cylinder, double overhead camshaft engine uprated by around 70 per cent through a host of internal changes and the addition of a turbocharger and water-air intercooler.
Duratec RS specification includes the standard engine block fitted with a modified oil return system and WRC design forged pistons but with lower compression. These in turn are matched to forged connecting rods. Camshafts remain unchanged and higher-grade spark plugs are fitted to cope with the higher heat range.
The front of the engine houses a new design of Garrett turbocharger with WRC, water-cooled technology to optimise performance and durability. The size of the unit is optimised for high efficiency and impressive torque delivery throughout the rev band. A new fabricated exhaust manifold is optimised for low down torque, and the 65mm high-flow large bore stainless steel exhaust system features a revised three-way catalytic converter to comply with Euro Stage III emission regulations. The exhaust system is optimised for minimal back pressure. Further underbonnet packaging includes a brand new air intake system matched to the increased flow demands of the turbocharger.
The temperature of the charge air entering the new throttle body is controlled by a unique water-air intercooler. A separate radiator utilises its own dedicated water cooling supply and is significantly more efficient than the conventional air to air intercooler. The spent charge leaving the turbocharger enters the intercooler at a typical 150° C and exits it below 45° C. While this type of intercooler requires a more complex installation with its separate water pump and radiator, the no-compromise design philosophy dictated this as the optimum system for Focus RS.
Engine longevity is safeguarded by the employment of a water pump with 50 per cent more flow, and a high efficiency oil cooler. Additional 'run on' cooling fans are fitted and the engine bay is treated to generous heat shielding with higher grade materials used to counter the increased underbonnet temperatures. Further, the whole engine and drivetrain has been extensively tested to ensure it meets all the usual criteria for mass production.
A remapped version of the Ford EEC V engine management system controls fuel delivery through higher flow rate injectors. Additionally, the fuel system is completely new with a high-flow pump and pressure regulator valve.
Power to the front wheels is through a heavy duty AP Racing clutch coupled to a revised and uprated version of the 5-speed MTX75 transmission. Unique to Focus RS gear ratios coupled with the sports short-throw shifter mechanism provide an enthusiastic punch when driving, with the gears chosen to extract optimum performance if worked enthusiastically. However, the impressively high engine torque levels provide more than adequate performance in more leisurely, low rpm driving so that the gearbox doesn't need to be stirred excessively to release a heady surge of power.
The performance potential has been optimised to the chassis for a "rally car for the road" driving experience.
Precision exterior elements
While the bonnet, doors roof panel and tail/headlamps remain standard, every other exterior element has been painstakingly developed and honed to help create a car worthy of the RS name. Rather than overcomplicate the styling, Hilton has chosen to detail forms with crisp accentuating lines, combining sophistication with racy elements.
It was important that Focus RS reflect styling cues from the WRC project, but with added modernity and production feasible materials. To this end, the car utilises brand new sheet metal for the front and rear wings with wide wheel arch extensions to complement the wider track. These components are matched to durable reinforced polypropylene moulded front and rear bumpers, side sills and a rear spoiler mounted on the tailgate.
While the same basic theme of the rally car is retained, more aggressive front and rear bumpers have been developed for Focus RS. The rally version is designed primarily to produce lots of downforce at speeds not much more than 100 mph. More downforce provides lots of grip but a loss of top end speed. In Focus RS, the emphasis is much more on higher speed stability. As a result, the car has been extensively wind-tunnel tested using data gathered from the WRC programme.
Viewed head on, Focus RS incorporates similar grille apertures to the WRC, but with added Hella fog lamps. Air flowing through the deep front grille is directed through outlets positioned as twin slots in front of each wheel. The radiator for the highly effective water-to-air intercooler system is positioned directly in this airflow for maximum cooling effect, thus optimising engine inlet charge air temperatures.
The result of the revised styling and wider footprint tyres is a drag co-efficient of 0.365, which is highly efficient considering the increased frontal area. This year's WRC Focus now sports a less aggressive rear spoiler design similar to that of Focus RS.
Purposeful interior theme
Inside, Focus RS has been developed to reflect the racing theme but with simplicity, style, quality and durability very much in mind. Just three surface colours are utilised throughout - black, blue and silver.
The most striking of all the interior appointments are the race-inspired seats. Developed in conjunction with Sparco, these high quality items are stitched in black hide with contrasting blue leather cushion and backrest inserts. Bold Sparco branding on the backrests and discreet RS logos embossed on the seat cushions complete the heritage link. They offer impressive lateral support and, just like the full racing version, have integrated harness slots within the headrests. Significantly, the RS Sparco seats have been developed with durability and ease of use for everyday driving.
The silver interior elements comprise an aluminium handbrake lever; short throw shifter knob, headrest slots, Sparco aluminium pedals with rubber inserts, and electro-plated door handles. The steering wheel is trimmed in blue and black leather to reflect the seats and incorporates an oversteer indicator. Further rally car cues include a functional start button sited on a real carbon fibre centre console, which can also accommodate a pair of sunglasses.
The instrumentation for Focus RS is unique. The frame bezel is revised, with bold and more precise graphics. Backlit blue bands on a black field encircle the speed and rev gauges. A turbo boost gauge is added and a change-up light lends a further competition element.
In spite of its sporting image and exhaust note, Focus RS is more than a unique new driving experience. Creature comforts and general convenience levels have not been overlooked and the car retains its highly practical interior layout with seating for five, power-assisted windows, steering, air conditioning, and Ford's novel new in-dash mounted six-CD player accessed through a single slot.
For the safety minded, both driver's and passenger's airbags and side impact protection beams are included as standard equipment.
Niche product development
"Focus RS is a niche, limited production, ultra-high performance road car which, as well as revitalising the RS marque, has been the catalyst for a new range of high performance Fords," Leach said. "For those enthusiasts who opt for less radical but more accessible performance, the equally desirable Focus ST, boasting 170PS, will be next in line, later in 2001."
Prices and final technical specifications for Focus RS will be announced nearer to the on-sale date in each market.
John, RS owners club member, Cossie powered westie driver, ex Cosworth RS driver, Mechanic on a GroupA Escort Cosworth Rally car........:lol:
[B]johnfelstead : They make an AWD version of the Focus. It's called the Cosworth or RS or the combination of the two, don't remember but they do exist.
Aron [/B][/QUOTE]
No they dont, the Focus RS is a FWD car. There is no AWD Cosworth Focus in production. There was a concept car built for a motor show that may apear in production but it does not exist yet as a car you can buy.
the concept Focus Cosworth
[img]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/focuscos3.jpg[/img]
the Focus RS
[img]http://www.fasterfords.com/rsfocus/pictures/focus_rs_04.jpg[/img]
Spec for the Focus RS
Engine: Ford 2.0-litre Zetec engine 4-cylinder, 16 valve.
Electronic Ford Engine Management Syetem.
Garrett turbocharger. Catalytic convertor.
Intercooler: Water/air intercooler
Power: 200+ bhp
Torque: 320 Nm (approximately)
Drive system: Front wheel drive with Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing Differential.
Transmission: Uprated MTX-75 5-speed, unique gear ratios, AP racing clutch
Suspension: Front Macpherson struts, Sachs dampers Rear Control Blade multi-link, Sachs dampers
Brakes: Front 330 mm ventilated discs with Brembo calipers Rear 280 mm ventilated discs Electronic ABS
Wheels: OZ Racing 18" 5-spoke alloy wheels
Tyres: Michelin 225/45 R18
Colour: Ford Racing Blue only
Latest News from Ford
Geneva, February 27, 2001 - A full production specification, road-ready version of the Ford Focus RS, inspired by Ford's World Rally Championship car, breaks cover at the 2001 Geneva Auto Show.
Following the exterior reveal of Focus RS at last year's British International Motor Show in Birmingham comes a production ready car with fully engineered RS chassis, 200-plus-PS engine and drivetrain, plus a unique interior package, with styling cues straight from the WRC contender.
Conceived and produced in just 15 months, Focus RS marks an industry first for speed of development. Significantly, it is the first Ford product in five years to wear the famed RS insignia on its flank.
Under the guidance of Ford of Europe Vice President of Product Development Martin Leach, the creation of the Focus RS is further proof of Ford's product-led transformation in Europe, and Leach's commitment to delivering a menu of performance derivatives to European customers.
It is the ultimate front-wheel-drive, high-performance road-going Focus.
While the Focus RS is clearly derived from the standard production model, around 70 per cent of the basic components have been changed or re-engineered. It fully meets Ford's stringent criteria for mass production vehicles, especially with regard to safety, quality and engineering excellence. The car will enter production at the Saarlouis plant in Germany in the summer of 2001, and be introduced thereafter in selected European markets.
Meeting the handling challenge
To achieve the required handling prowess in conjunction with the new 2.0 litre, turbocharged Duratec RS engine, Focus RS presented a number of design and engineering challenges in order to achieve one of its main objectives, that of transmitting more than 200 PS through the front wheels.
A critical part of the Focus RS handling solution relies on the redesigned front suspension. Changes include a wider front track - increased to WRC tarmac specification to provide further benefits in handling. Sachs Racing dampers and matched springs are incorporated to handle the increase in loads and provide superior body control. Improvements in kinematics and additional rebound travel on the front suspension of the car have been tuned to ensure that during cornering, the inside front tyre remains loaded and firmly in contact with the road.
Another key aspect of front wheel control is a Quaife automatic torque-biasing differential, designed for optimum traction. This sophisticated unit quickly detects a reduction in the level of drive to a front wheel and seamlessly distributes torque to prevent wheelspin.
Aiding the system is revised static negative camber for the front suspension geometry. The rear engine mount and cross-member are upgraded to cope with the higher shock loads and torque and an 18mm front anti-roll bar is included to maximise traction whilst maintaining handling precision. Brembo 325mm ventilated discs and four-pot callipers provide vice-like retardation at all speeds.
Standard Focus steering includes a quick rack with 2.9 turns lock-to-lock and this is retained and retuned for increased responsiveness along with a revised power steering pump. The outstanding balance of torque and race-inspired vehicle response give Focus RS unrivalled steering control, feel and agility.
At the rear, the revolutionary Focus Control Blade multi-link rear suspension is retained, but increased in stiffness for greater durability. This set-up is complemented with Sachs Racing dampers, increased negative camber, higher load capacity bearings, redesigned spindles and anti-rollbar link for improved roll stiffness. The braking system comprises solid 280mm discs with conventional two-pot calipers.
Completing the chassis transformation is a bespoke set of 18-inch diameter OZ Racing light alloy wheels, fitted with 225/40R18 Michelin low profile tyres developed specifically for Focus RS. Considerable work has gone in to fine tuning the tyre characteristics to optimise the vehicle's handling and performance potential.
Combined, the chassis modifications provide Focus RS with outstanding body control. Front and rear roll stiffness has been optimised to provide the ultimate handling balance and yaw response.
Power by Duratec RS
Focus RS utilises a modified version of the Duratec four cylinder, double overhead camshaft engine uprated by around 70 per cent through a host of internal changes and the addition of a turbocharger and water-air intercooler.
Duratec RS specification includes the standard engine block fitted with a modified oil return system and WRC design forged pistons but with lower compression. These in turn are matched to forged connecting rods. Camshafts remain unchanged and higher-grade spark plugs are fitted to cope with the higher heat range.
The front of the engine houses a new design of Garrett turbocharger with WRC, water-cooled technology to optimise performance and durability. The size of the unit is optimised for high efficiency and impressive torque delivery throughout the rev band. A new fabricated exhaust manifold is optimised for low down torque, and the 65mm high-flow large bore stainless steel exhaust system features a revised three-way catalytic converter to comply with Euro Stage III emission regulations. The exhaust system is optimised for minimal back pressure. Further underbonnet packaging includes a brand new air intake system matched to the increased flow demands of the turbocharger.
The temperature of the charge air entering the new throttle body is controlled by a unique water-air intercooler. A separate radiator utilises its own dedicated water cooling supply and is significantly more efficient than the conventional air to air intercooler. The spent charge leaving the turbocharger enters the intercooler at a typical 150° C and exits it below 45° C. While this type of intercooler requires a more complex installation with its separate water pump and radiator, the no-compromise design philosophy dictated this as the optimum system for Focus RS.
Engine longevity is safeguarded by the employment of a water pump with 50 per cent more flow, and a high efficiency oil cooler. Additional 'run on' cooling fans are fitted and the engine bay is treated to generous heat shielding with higher grade materials used to counter the increased underbonnet temperatures. Further, the whole engine and drivetrain has been extensively tested to ensure it meets all the usual criteria for mass production.
A remapped version of the Ford EEC V engine management system controls fuel delivery through higher flow rate injectors. Additionally, the fuel system is completely new with a high-flow pump and pressure regulator valve.
Power to the front wheels is through a heavy duty AP Racing clutch coupled to a revised and uprated version of the 5-speed MTX75 transmission. Unique to Focus RS gear ratios coupled with the sports short-throw shifter mechanism provide an enthusiastic punch when driving, with the gears chosen to extract optimum performance if worked enthusiastically. However, the impressively high engine torque levels provide more than adequate performance in more leisurely, low rpm driving so that the gearbox doesn't need to be stirred excessively to release a heady surge of power.
The performance potential has been optimised to the chassis for a "rally car for the road" driving experience.
Precision exterior elements
While the bonnet, doors roof panel and tail/headlamps remain standard, every other exterior element has been painstakingly developed and honed to help create a car worthy of the RS name. Rather than overcomplicate the styling, Hilton has chosen to detail forms with crisp accentuating lines, combining sophistication with racy elements.
It was important that Focus RS reflect styling cues from the WRC project, but with added modernity and production feasible materials. To this end, the car utilises brand new sheet metal for the front and rear wings with wide wheel arch extensions to complement the wider track. These components are matched to durable reinforced polypropylene moulded front and rear bumpers, side sills and a rear spoiler mounted on the tailgate.
While the same basic theme of the rally car is retained, more aggressive front and rear bumpers have been developed for Focus RS. The rally version is designed primarily to produce lots of downforce at speeds not much more than 100 mph. More downforce provides lots of grip but a loss of top end speed. In Focus RS, the emphasis is much more on higher speed stability. As a result, the car has been extensively wind-tunnel tested using data gathered from the WRC programme.
Viewed head on, Focus RS incorporates similar grille apertures to the WRC, but with added Hella fog lamps. Air flowing through the deep front grille is directed through outlets positioned as twin slots in front of each wheel. The radiator for the highly effective water-to-air intercooler system is positioned directly in this airflow for maximum cooling effect, thus optimising engine inlet charge air temperatures.
The result of the revised styling and wider footprint tyres is a drag co-efficient of 0.365, which is highly efficient considering the increased frontal area. This year's WRC Focus now sports a less aggressive rear spoiler design similar to that of Focus RS.
Purposeful interior theme
Inside, Focus RS has been developed to reflect the racing theme but with simplicity, style, quality and durability very much in mind. Just three surface colours are utilised throughout - black, blue and silver.
The most striking of all the interior appointments are the race-inspired seats. Developed in conjunction with Sparco, these high quality items are stitched in black hide with contrasting blue leather cushion and backrest inserts. Bold Sparco branding on the backrests and discreet RS logos embossed on the seat cushions complete the heritage link. They offer impressive lateral support and, just like the full racing version, have integrated harness slots within the headrests. Significantly, the RS Sparco seats have been developed with durability and ease of use for everyday driving.
The silver interior elements comprise an aluminium handbrake lever; short throw shifter knob, headrest slots, Sparco aluminium pedals with rubber inserts, and electro-plated door handles. The steering wheel is trimmed in blue and black leather to reflect the seats and incorporates an oversteer indicator. Further rally car cues include a functional start button sited on a real carbon fibre centre console, which can also accommodate a pair of sunglasses.
The instrumentation for Focus RS is unique. The frame bezel is revised, with bold and more precise graphics. Backlit blue bands on a black field encircle the speed and rev gauges. A turbo boost gauge is added and a change-up light lends a further competition element.
In spite of its sporting image and exhaust note, Focus RS is more than a unique new driving experience. Creature comforts and general convenience levels have not been overlooked and the car retains its highly practical interior layout with seating for five, power-assisted windows, steering, air conditioning, and Ford's novel new in-dash mounted six-CD player accessed through a single slot.
For the safety minded, both driver's and passenger's airbags and side impact protection beams are included as standard equipment.
Niche product development
"Focus RS is a niche, limited production, ultra-high performance road car which, as well as revitalising the RS marque, has been the catalyst for a new range of high performance Fords," Leach said. "For those enthusiasts who opt for less radical but more accessible performance, the equally desirable Focus ST, boasting 170PS, will be next in line, later in 2001."
Prices and final technical specifications for Focus RS will be announced nearer to the on-sale date in each market.
John, RS owners club member, Cossie powered westie driver, ex Cosworth RS driver, Mechanic on a GroupA Escort Cosworth Rally car........:lol:
| meebs | 01-27-2002 11:43 AM |
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is it a pug... is it a ford? It's definatly a rally car. :) hmmmmm
| johnfelstead | 01-27-2002 01:18 PM |
rally car my arse. :lol:
It's a Toyota anyway, note the TOYOTA badge on the grill. :D
It's a Toyota anyway, note the TOYOTA badge on the grill. :D
| Marc Sawaya | 01-27-2002 03:28 PM |
Strange car, the Matrix. I'd love to see BMW join the fray! Let's have a rally-spec M3! You know that would sell well.
| Thug | 01-28-2002 10:46 AM |
BMW tried their hand at rally in the 80's with the E30 M3 and didnt fair very well. The new M3 is too much of a porky luxury car. Imagine adding even more weight by making it AWD.
| johnfelstead | 01-28-2002 11:24 AM |
The M3 was actually a very successful Tarmac rally car. It was the first works car that Prodrive ever built and the company founded it's reputation on the success they had with the M3. Without that success I doubt DR would be where he is and Subaru would probably still be making tractors as cars.
I don't think you guys understand the concept of the World Rally Car rules either. It doesn't matter how crap the road car is (the current M3 is far from crap) you can build a very competitive rally car from it.
All the WRC cars weigh the same, they all have a free design on AWD system, they all have free design on Suspension, they can run a Turbo 2 litre of any of their engine derivatives. That's the whole point of the WRC rules, get as many manufacturers involved without the need to build a homologation special like in the GroupA days.
If you want to take a look at what genuine road car is the best currently available for rallying, take a look at the GroupN cars. They are based on homologated limited run production cars and are not allowed to be modified to anywhere near the level of groupA or WRC cars. I think you'll find 95% of them in use now are Mitsubishi EVO VI's.
I don't think you guys understand the concept of the World Rally Car rules either. It doesn't matter how crap the road car is (the current M3 is far from crap) you can build a very competitive rally car from it.
All the WRC cars weigh the same, they all have a free design on AWD system, they all have free design on Suspension, they can run a Turbo 2 litre of any of their engine derivatives. That's the whole point of the WRC rules, get as many manufacturers involved without the need to build a homologation special like in the GroupA days.
If you want to take a look at what genuine road car is the best currently available for rallying, take a look at the GroupN cars. They are based on homologated limited run production cars and are not allowed to be modified to anywhere near the level of groupA or WRC cars. I think you'll find 95% of them in use now are Mitsubishi EVO VI's.
| Thug | 01-28-2002 11:51 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]The M3 was actually a very successful Tarmac rally car.
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Very true. No surprise there though, it was/is a great track car. Im sure if tarmac took up a larger percentage of the series they'd have dominated.
[QUOTE][B]
I don't think you guys understand the concept of the World Rally Car rules either. It doesn't matter how crap the road car is (the current M3 is far from crap) you can build a very competitive rally car from it.
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No, I understand that. I just think that the chassis of that car would be a bit big and heavy to be competitive in WRC.
Trust me, I LOVE the new M3. It's an amazing car.(Although people around here will say it's crap cuz it's not a Subaru. :rolleyes: )
[QUOTE] [B]
If you want to take a look at what genuine road car is the best currently available for rallying, take a look at the GroupN cars. They are based on homologated limited run production cars and are not allowed to be modified to anywhere near the level of groupA or WRC cars. I think you'll find 95% of them in use now are Mitsubishi EVO VI's. [/B][/QUOTE]
But the EVO cant be the best. Didnt you know Subaru is <b>always</b> the best? ;) :lol:
later,
Nate
[B]The M3 was actually a very successful Tarmac rally car.
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Very true. No surprise there though, it was/is a great track car. Im sure if tarmac took up a larger percentage of the series they'd have dominated.
[QUOTE][B]
I don't think you guys understand the concept of the World Rally Car rules either. It doesn't matter how crap the road car is (the current M3 is far from crap) you can build a very competitive rally car from it.
[/B][/QUOTE]
No, I understand that. I just think that the chassis of that car would be a bit big and heavy to be competitive in WRC.
Trust me, I LOVE the new M3. It's an amazing car.(Although people around here will say it's crap cuz it's not a Subaru. :rolleyes: )
[QUOTE] [B]
If you want to take a look at what genuine road car is the best currently available for rallying, take a look at the GroupN cars. They are based on homologated limited run production cars and are not allowed to be modified to anywhere near the level of groupA or WRC cars. I think you'll find 95% of them in use now are Mitsubishi EVO VI's. [/B][/QUOTE]
But the EVO cant be the best. Didnt you know Subaru is <b>always</b> the best? ;) :lol:
later,
Nate
| JamesC | 01-28-2002 05:28 PM |
As was mentioned above I think it appropriate for the Mini to be involved for BMW's front. That early clay model prototype that was half street car and half blistered-arch-rallye-mobile hopefully will point the way. They still haven't been coerced back to the Americal Le Mans Series/Le Mans for their M3..maybe they have a few extra euro's burning a hole in their pocket (that fell through the cracks from F1) :cool:
JamesC
JamesC
| Rebellion | 01-28-2002 08:33 PM |
hmmm my picks would be...
Citroen, Opel, VW (there's a beetle in RallySport for X-Box! or a Golf), and Mini.
Other possibilities:
Toyota (Matrix/Celica).
Dodge w/ the new turbo Neon maybe?
Mazda w/ a MP3/P5? (doubtful but why not)
Audi w/ an A3/S3?
Is Hyundai running a full season (ie: competing for manufacturers points) this year? They'll have the new Tiburon next year.
the Focus is FWD? I coulda SWORN it was AWD in Grand Turismo 3! and we all know that's 100% accurate. :p
Citroen, Opel, VW (there's a beetle in RallySport for X-Box! or a Golf), and Mini.
Other possibilities:
Toyota (Matrix/Celica).
Dodge w/ the new turbo Neon maybe?
Mazda w/ a MP3/P5? (doubtful but why not)
Audi w/ an A3/S3?
Is Hyundai running a full season (ie: competing for manufacturers points) this year? They'll have the new Tiburon next year.
the Focus is FWD? I coulda SWORN it was AWD in Grand Turismo 3! and we all know that's 100% accurate. :p
| Thug | 01-29-2002 10:45 AM |
Mazda is part of Ford, so I dont think we'll see a Mazda.
And as previously stated, Toyota pulled out of WRC a couple years ago. They even still had a year left on their contracts that they had to pay out.
I would absolutely love to see an Audi S3 WRC car. That is one slick ride.
A turbo Neon would be interesting to say the least. But I think Dodge will start in US Pro Rally and compete there for a couple years before they try to tackle the WRC.
But hey, this is all just my .02. If you wanna know what's really gonna happen, ask John "Crystal Ball of WRC" Felstead. ;)
And as previously stated, Toyota pulled out of WRC a couple years ago. They even still had a year left on their contracts that they had to pay out.
I would absolutely love to see an Audi S3 WRC car. That is one slick ride.
A turbo Neon would be interesting to say the least. But I think Dodge will start in US Pro Rally and compete there for a couple years before they try to tackle the WRC.
But hey, this is all just my .02. If you wanna know what's really gonna happen, ask John "Crystal Ball of WRC" Felstead. ;)
| SCRAPPYDO | 01-29-2002 03:41 PM |
forgive me for being brash my fine friends, but I think we are forgetting a major player here. Why shouldn't Porsche have a rally car? They have a great history of rallying. It improves the breed. They are not a major player in any form of motorsports I can think of. I cant think of any factory Porsche team anywhere in any form of racing. I would love to see an AWD 911 eat some mud!
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Porsche would be an ideal candidate for a new manufacturer!
SCRAPPYDO
stephen
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Porsche would be an ideal candidate for a new manufacturer!
SCRAPPYDO
stephen
| Thug | 01-29-2002 04:59 PM |
It's not in their marketing niche at all. That and AFAIK there hasnt been a mid-engine WRC car since the 80's.
Somebody correct me if Im wrong though.
Somebody correct me if Im wrong though.
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