| ChuckCheeze | 08-28-2005 01:35 AM |
noob - DIY spraypainting hood
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I am a noob. I attempted to fill in some rock chips on the hood by spray painting the hood. i got spraypaint from paintscratch.com and it the right match color. i followed the instructions and i am not getting it right.
sprayed down about 3 coats of color and 2 coats of clearcoat. then i had a trip out of town for a couple of days. i think the humidity was too high and it got hot. i think the paint baked in.
i have tried rubbing compound and polishing compound. any suggestions?
sprayed down about 3 coats of color and 2 coats of clearcoat. then i had a trip out of town for a couple of days. i think the humidity was too high and it got hot. i think the paint baked in.
i have tried rubbing compound and polishing compound. any suggestions?
| Odin | 08-28-2005 08:58 AM |
That is NOT how you fix rock chips. I think you may have done some damage. Go to a shop and ask a pro.
| advanracing62 | 08-28-2005 09:30 AM |
more than likely you'll have to wet sand the paint off and refinish the whole hood now..
| IronMedic | 08-28-2005 12:04 PM |
that is what touch up paint is for
| Lexington | 08-28-2005 12:57 PM |
touch up paint is not for large chips/scratches
touch up paint is for that one TINY little ding that is allllll the way at the bottom of your fender that nobody will ever see, but it bothers you anyway so you go out, buy the paint and put on one tiny dot.
touch up paint is for that one TINY little ding that is allllll the way at the bottom of your fender that nobody will ever see, but it bothers you anyway so you go out, buy the paint and put on one tiny dot.
| Bundyboyz | 08-28-2005 01:00 PM |
for a noob, I'm surprised your not worrying about your hood rusting. :D
that's a smart joke there... let's see what noob comments that he's not even talking about rust here, and that I'm an idiot.
that's a smart joke there... let's see what noob comments that he's not even talking about rust here, and that I'm an idiot.
| white-shadow | 08-28-2005 01:27 PM |
is it possible to sand/wet sand the whole hood ...don't know how far....then 3 primer, then 3 color, and then 3 clear coats?...
| specialev | 08-28-2005 01:41 PM |
Personally, I think that you have created a big problem for yourself; if you have to ask questions about it here, you shouldn't really be painting your car.
The most important step of any body work operation is the prep work step. Mess that up and you gotta start over. You have to get the surface to be painted chemically and physically clean if you want long term adherence of the paint.
Seeing as you are just doing a spot touch up you encounter another problem, blending the repainted spot with the rest of the hood. I have never been good at doing this, a technique called feathering. It is just hard to get to look right. You have to lightly spray your paint around the periphery of the spot you are painting and then follow up in the color sanding step.
To finish off every thing that you have done you need to color sand. I would select 2500 grit and wetsand your hood. Here is where you can finally get the feathered in spot nice and blended. After this step is where you choose a lighter grade polishing compound like Mothers, Liquid Ebony, or Meguiars.
-Good Luck
The most important step of any body work operation is the prep work step. Mess that up and you gotta start over. You have to get the surface to be painted chemically and physically clean if you want long term adherence of the paint.
Seeing as you are just doing a spot touch up you encounter another problem, blending the repainted spot with the rest of the hood. I have never been good at doing this, a technique called feathering. It is just hard to get to look right. You have to lightly spray your paint around the periphery of the spot you are painting and then follow up in the color sanding step.
To finish off every thing that you have done you need to color sand. I would select 2500 grit and wetsand your hood. Here is where you can finally get the feathered in spot nice and blended. After this step is where you choose a lighter grade polishing compound like Mothers, Liquid Ebony, or Meguiars.
-Good Luck
| zmaster | 08-28-2005 02:17 PM |
First of all...paintsratch's paint is lacqure... and your paint is ureathne...plus ive tried the same thing your talking about...its something about that bloody clearcoat with the flex additive..im having the same problem painting my side splitters...i have no idea what to do either....i would call up paintscratch and leave them a message to call you back and ask for advice..
| white-shadow | 08-28-2005 03:29 PM |
so??? What if ...lets say the 'hood' was already a stock colour?...then u want to paint it a different colour...would u start off with wet sanding? and to how far would u go to sand to...seeing metal :p ??
| joeyb7 | 08-28-2005 04:59 PM |
man, that's a bad way to fill in chips......
| AirForge | 08-28-2005 11:16 PM |
It sounds like you have really screwed up.
1. You don�t fix a rock chip with a can of spray paint. In my opinion any person who points a can of spray paint at the hood of their car doesn�t know what they are doing. The finish just won�t be good no matter how well you prep it or how well you lay the paint down.
2. From what I gather from your post you did no sanding before you started painting. Prep work is the foundation of all auto painting. Your paint won�t stick for very long and probably won�t look good while it is on.
3. If what zmaster says is true about the paint being lacquer, then you�re in real bad shape. Urethane paint and lacquer just won�t mix at all. I�ve never seen anyone paint over urethane with lacquer so I don�t know how it will react but I�m sure it will be bad.
The only thing you can really do to fix the situation is wet sand all of that spray paint off, and go a bit further into the original basecoat and reapply the paint properly. It would probably be easier to take it to a body shop if you�re new to painting.
1. You don�t fix a rock chip with a can of spray paint. In my opinion any person who points a can of spray paint at the hood of their car doesn�t know what they are doing. The finish just won�t be good no matter how well you prep it or how well you lay the paint down.
2. From what I gather from your post you did no sanding before you started painting. Prep work is the foundation of all auto painting. Your paint won�t stick for very long and probably won�t look good while it is on.
3. If what zmaster says is true about the paint being lacquer, then you�re in real bad shape. Urethane paint and lacquer just won�t mix at all. I�ve never seen anyone paint over urethane with lacquer so I don�t know how it will react but I�m sure it will be bad.
The only thing you can really do to fix the situation is wet sand all of that spray paint off, and go a bit further into the original basecoat and reapply the paint properly. It would probably be easier to take it to a body shop if you�re new to painting.
| ChuckCheeze | 08-31-2005 12:37 AM |
cost to repaint
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thanks for all the feedback. i wont be touching the paint ever again.
does anyone know how much the ballcpark cost to repaint the whole hood?
and how long the bodyshop may need for the job?
thanks
does anyone know how much the ballcpark cost to repaint the whole hood?
and how long the bodyshop may need for the job?
thanks
| minx1225 | 08-31-2005 12:55 AM |
Price varies from shops to shops... But I suggest you to not rush the shop.... the more you ask them how long will it take... they will do a poor job on your painting...
I highly suggest you to paint it from subaru dealer
I highly suggest you to paint it from subaru dealer
| specialev | 08-31-2005 01:06 AM |
I highly suggest you don't have the Subaru dealer paint it. They will just send it out to a shop you can source for yourself, then they will jack up the price by 30% or more. You have a phone, internet access, and a phone book; let your fingers do the walking. Have fun.
| beastSTI | 08-31-2005 01:14 AM |
Once you fix the hood, you are just going to get more chips... I say keep it and pretend its a beater car that eats gas!
Save your money for the new X-box 360.. .that's what I am doing!!!
Save your money for the new X-box 360.. .that's what I am doing!!!
| Silver_Bell_WRX | 08-31-2005 01:16 AM |
I had a large scratch in my hood fixed and repainted for about $375. It would almost be worth it to get an aftermarket hood if you like the looks of them.
| specialev | 08-31-2005 01:17 AM |
[QUOTE=beastSTI]Once you fix the hood, you are just going to get more chips... I say keep it and pretend its a beater car that eats gas!
Save your money for the new X-box 360.. .that's what I am doing!!![/QUOTE]
Yes, people may be more apt to steal it if it's got a bling hood with freshy paint. By all means, keep it ugly. Better camo for whats underneath.
Save your money for the new X-box 360.. .that's what I am doing!!![/QUOTE]
Yes, people may be more apt to steal it if it's got a bling hood with freshy paint. By all means, keep it ugly. Better camo for whats underneath.
| bfarm | 08-31-2005 09:47 AM |
Ttiwwop
| nate.the.great | 08-31-2005 11:36 AM |
Your hood is over. It will be easier to buy a CF hood. CF Hoods also won't chip as badly.
| beastSTI | 08-31-2005 01:22 PM |
Don't even get a cf hood... that sucker will just fade in the sun and look like crap in no time... Mine did on my Si ;-)
| MMBOOST | 08-31-2005 02:36 PM |
[QUOTE=AirForge]It sounds like you have really screwed up.[/quote]
yep.
[quote]3. If what zmaster says is true about the paint being lacquer, then you�re in real bad shape. Urethane paint and lacquer just won�t mix at all. I�ve never seen anyone paint over urethane with lacquer so I don�t know how it will react but I�m sure it will be bad.[/QUOTE]
Eventually moisture will get between the layers because they never properly bonded. Then it'll get all hazy looking and maybe even weak enough to start flaking off.
No, no... of course I've never done this :lol:
yep.
[quote]3. If what zmaster says is true about the paint being lacquer, then you�re in real bad shape. Urethane paint and lacquer just won�t mix at all. I�ve never seen anyone paint over urethane with lacquer so I don�t know how it will react but I�m sure it will be bad.[/QUOTE]
Eventually moisture will get between the layers because they never properly bonded. Then it'll get all hazy looking and maybe even weak enough to start flaking off.
No, no... of course I've never done this :lol:
| silent_rob_95 | 10-11-2006 11:00 PM |
how many cans of base color did you order to get 3 coats?
sorry for bringing the old thread back.
sorry for bringing the old thread back.
| WRXDriftR | 10-12-2006 12:18 PM |
[quote=Bundyboyz;10868818]for a noob, I'm surprised your not worrying about your hood rusting. :D[/quote]
for the noobies:
wrx hood is aluminum
aluminum is not a ferrous metal
therefore it will not rust
:) got your back y0
for the noobies:
wrx hood is aluminum
aluminum is not a ferrous metal
therefore it will not rust
:) got your back y0
| down_for_the_scooby | 01-10-2007 04:49 PM |
[QUOTE=minx1225;10898827]Price varies from shops to shops... But I suggest you to not rush the shop.... the more you ask them how long will it take... they will do a poor job on your painting...
I highly suggest you to paint it from subaru dealer[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about. Subaru dealers don't paint cars, they source the work to local body shops and play the middle man price along the way. Get your facts straight.
If you want to get the car painted correctly go to a place that has been in buisness for more than a few years and ask for pivtures of their work. ask them how many coats they put on their cars. A reputable place will say something in the 7-9 range of just paint. If they try to tell you otherwise, turn around and walk out the door. Secondly, this will not be a cheap job. Most subaru paint is pearlized, translation crazy expensive. What would cost 200-300 for a regular car will cost nearly double for a subaru.
I highly suggest you to paint it from subaru dealer[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about. Subaru dealers don't paint cars, they source the work to local body shops and play the middle man price along the way. Get your facts straight.
If you want to get the car painted correctly go to a place that has been in buisness for more than a few years and ask for pivtures of their work. ask them how many coats they put on their cars. A reputable place will say something in the 7-9 range of just paint. If they try to tell you otherwise, turn around and walk out the door. Secondly, this will not be a cheap job. Most subaru paint is pearlized, translation crazy expensive. What would cost 200-300 for a regular car will cost nearly double for a subaru.
| down_for_the_scooby | 01-10-2007 04:51 PM |
[QUOTE=MMBOOST;10904906]yep.
Eventually moisture will get between the layers because they never properly bonded. Then it'll get all hazy looking and maybe even weak enough to start flaking off.
No, no... of course I've never done this :lol:[/QUOTE]
I repainted my driver side fender and my bumper and touched up my passenger side fender all rattle can style from paintscratch and it looks great still. The secret is in the prep work. The rattle can approach is trickier than the gun but it is possible.
Eventually moisture will get between the layers because they never properly bonded. Then it'll get all hazy looking and maybe even weak enough to start flaking off.
No, no... of course I've never done this :lol:[/QUOTE]
I repainted my driver side fender and my bumper and touched up my passenger side fender all rattle can style from paintscratch and it looks great still. The secret is in the prep work. The rattle can approach is trickier than the gun but it is possible.
| RedRex26 | 01-10-2007 04:55 PM |
def have to wet sand a fine sand paper and then repaint, make sure its not humid out . don't spray to close to the hood or you'll get run marks. if you can't do this i suggest going to a professional.
| ekw | 01-11-2007 08:03 AM |
original post:
08-28-2005, 01:35 AM
OP's Last Activity: 11-03-2006 08:28 AM
let it go, down_for_the_scooby.
:)
08-28-2005, 01:35 AM
OP's Last Activity: 11-03-2006 08:28 AM
let it go, down_for_the_scooby.
:)
| JCity | 01-11-2007 09:15 AM |
[quote=nate.the.great;10902285]Your hood is over. It will be easier to buy a CF hood. CF Hoods also won't chip as badly.[/quote]
agreed.
agreed.
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