| Mystic | 09-19-2006 12:17 AM |
painting or Powdercoating ?
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i got a set of silver BBS wheels for my car , i want gold ones ...should i paint them at the body shop or have them powdercoated? anyone else have this done ? i am looking for that OEM look
| Subie Gal | 09-19-2006 12:23 AM |
powdercoating comes out sooo nice and lasts a lot longer...
my OEM's are powdercoated
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/thecars/imprezamain/2006imprezars/subaru-impreza-foglight.jpg[/img]
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
my OEM's are powdercoated
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/thecars/imprezamain/2006imprezars/subaru-impreza-foglight.jpg[/img]
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
| Mystic | 09-19-2006 12:25 AM |
my rims on my bike are powdercoated ...i just want that nice clear finish factory wheels have
| sheepdog | 09-19-2006 01:01 AM |
Theres a thread around here that talks about powdercoating the bbs wheels. Word on the street is that it weakens the alloy due to the way they are heat treated or something. I'm going to have mine painted just to be sure.
| ndylam | 09-19-2006 01:27 AM |
I would prefer powdercoated if you have the budget. They're quite costy after uninstall and re-install the wheels.
They last hella longer since they are melted into the wheel. Paint just covered it.
It cost me $400 to powdercoated my GSX-R1000 and $800 on my STI. It has been 2 years and they are still looking fresh =)
Cheers!
They last hella longer since they are melted into the wheel. Paint just covered it.
It cost me $400 to powdercoated my GSX-R1000 and $800 on my STI. It has been 2 years and they are still looking fresh =)
Cheers!
| PARANOID56 | 09-19-2006 10:03 AM |
yea, be carfull with powdercoating those stock bbs rims. make sure you take them to somebody that knows how to properly powdercoat forged rimes. they use a different lower heat powdercoat.
Shane
Shane
| Mystic | 09-19-2006 10:17 AM |
[QUOTE=ndylam;15295023]I would prefer powdercoated if you have the budget. They're quite costy after uninstall and re-install the wheels.
They last hella longer since they are melted into the wheel. Paint just covered it.
It cost me $400 to powdercoated my GSX-R1000 and $800 on my STI. It has been 2 years and they are still looking fresh =)
Cheers![/QUOTE]
you have any picutres of your gsxr ? i had my bike wheels and brackets powdercoated and they came out nice but just not sure about car rims ..
paranoid, thanks for the heads up with the wheels being forged , i never thought about that ..
They last hella longer since they are melted into the wheel. Paint just covered it.
It cost me $400 to powdercoated my GSX-R1000 and $800 on my STI. It has been 2 years and they are still looking fresh =)
Cheers![/QUOTE]
you have any picutres of your gsxr ? i had my bike wheels and brackets powdercoated and they came out nice but just not sure about car rims ..
paranoid, thanks for the heads up with the wheels being forged , i never thought about that ..
| adeliciouspizza | 09-19-2006 10:31 AM |
[QUOTE=Mystic;15297525]you have any picutres of your gsxr ? i had my bike wheels and brackets powdercoated and they came out nice but just not sure about car rims ..
paranoid, thanks for the heads up with the wheels being forged , i never thought about that ..[/QUOTE]
yea, do not PC forged wheels. do a search. they become brittle and/or soft.
paranoid, thanks for the heads up with the wheels being forged , i never thought about that ..[/QUOTE]
yea, do not PC forged wheels. do a search. they become brittle and/or soft.
| Aarron_M | 09-19-2006 11:15 AM |
You can powdercoat, but they must use the "dip method". Contact your powdercoater to be sure than can do this. Baking is not good for the forged BBS's. ;)
| dblurx4 | 09-19-2006 02:18 PM |
I am a Custom Automotive Painter. And I would go with painting and clearcoating your rims. The finish will come out glossy and the clearcoat will protect it from the sun and anything the weather throws at it. Powdercoating doesnt last near as long. You will be happier if you get them painted and clearcoated. Where do you live? Would be willing to do them for you?
| dblurx4 | 09-19-2006 02:19 PM |
And for the wheels to be painted and clearcoated, they do not have to be baked. They can sit at booth temperature until they are cured, 1 hour at the most...
| Mystic | 09-19-2006 03:25 PM |
i am located in mass ...where are you ?
| dblurx4 | 09-19-2006 03:29 PM |
Phoenix, Arizona. I will work something out with you as far as pricing goes, and you could just pay for shipping. Which would be about 35$ at the most per wheel. I can paint them any color you like, pinstripe lip of the rim etc...PM me if your interested, my name is Justin by the way...
| Scooby921 | 09-19-2006 03:43 PM |
A friend had his wheels powdercoated. Finish is still amazing and the wheels haven't cracked after two years of heavy auto-x use. I just had mine done at the same shop. $348 out the door. Finish and color is definitely worth the cost.
| f1vlad | 09-19-2006 04:41 PM |
Do powdercoat:
[IMG]http://www.brainsights.com/wrxtear/foto/09--2006/02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.brainsights.com/wrxtear/foto/09--2006/02.jpg[/IMG]
| detailinguy99 | 09-19-2006 06:21 PM |
I read the thread that said powdercoating is unsafe and there was no real answer to the question of whether it is safe or not. I can't find the thread myself though. People argue that your brakes up can heat up your wheels to the same temperatures that powdercoating can. Not sure about the powdercoating process though so don't quote me!
| detailinguy99 | 09-19-2006 06:25 PM |
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990628&highlight=powdercoating+weakens[/url]
this is one of them i found
this is one of them i found
| BraveUlysses | 09-19-2006 06:46 PM |
[QUOTE=detailinguy99;15304962]I read the thread that said powdercoating is unsafe and there was no real answer to the question of whether it is safe or not. I can't find the thread myself though. People argue that your brakes up can heat up your wheels to the same temperatures that powdercoating can. Not sure about the powdercoating process though so don't quote me![/QUOTE]
It doesn't appear to be a conclusive answer. Everyone parrots one way or the other what the read in some thread some where but nobody has any substantial evidence for either side of the discussion.
FWIW, some aftermarket wheels are powdercoated from the manufacturer.
And whoever paid $800 for his wheels to be PC'd got wheel'n'dealed. $200-250 TOPS including blasting is what one should pay.
It doesn't appear to be a conclusive answer. Everyone parrots one way or the other what the read in some thread some where but nobody has any substantial evidence for either side of the discussion.
FWIW, some aftermarket wheels are powdercoated from the manufacturer.
And whoever paid $800 for his wheels to be PC'd got wheel'n'dealed. $200-250 TOPS including blasting is what one should pay.
| dblurx4 | 09-19-2006 06:48 PM |
Powdercoating is not the way to go. Every powdercoating company uses the same process. I work for a custom motorcycle/car shop where I am the head painter. We STOPPED powdercoating our wheels and motorcycle frames etc... The best opition is to send the wheels somewhere to get them prepped and painted. Exp: Wet sand, scuff w/scotch brite and 3m cleaning solution, seal the wheels with a sealer, base the wheels with which ever color you would like (3-4 coats), let flash for 12-14 minutes, then apply 2-3 coats of clear. Or if your looking for a flat look like the powdercoating offers. Go with a "matte" clearcoat which gives that flat effect but gives the product strength...Then you let them sit for 45min-1hour at booth temperature 75-80'. Pull them out, unmask them if neccesary. And let them cure through the night. The next day you can wet-sand them again with some 1500-2000 grit wet-sand paper and polish out any perfections if you have any. Then they are ready to be mounted! And they are good to go for life!
| RS drifter | 09-20-2006 07:24 AM |
[url]http://www2.dupont.com/Powder/en_US/products/deco/alesta_uv.html[/url]
UV Powder coating
UV Powder coating
| eric rxb | 09-20-2006 07:41 AM |
[QUOTE=BraveUlysses;15305242]It doesn't appear to be a conclusive answer. Everyone parrots one way or the other what the read in some thread some where but nobody has any substantial evidence for either side of the discussion.
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I'm taking [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9321046&postcount=88"]this post[/URL] as reason not to powdercoat them. It's evidence enough for me.
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I'm taking [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9321046&postcount=88"]this post[/URL] as reason not to powdercoat them. It's evidence enough for me.
| Aarron_M | 09-20-2006 08:23 AM |
I work with precious and non-precious metals all day long, and am in charge of the casting processes for those metals. Heat changes the molecular structure of alloys. Raising the temp of a forged metal can significantly alter the strength of that metal. Do it if you want, but you've been warned. You might get away with it, you might not.
| RS drifter | 09-20-2006 11:39 AM |
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| sheepdog | 09-20-2006 12:43 PM |
Does anyone know a place that does that Dupont UV powdercoat?
| Creations-Unlimited | 09-20-2006 01:03 PM |
hmmm....:cool:
Jamie, how long have yours beeen powder coated for?
-Brian
Jamie, how long have yours beeen powder coated for?
-Brian
| BraveUlysses | 09-20-2006 01:09 PM |
[QUOTE=eric rxb;15310723]I'm taking [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9321046&postcount=88"]this post[/URL] as reason not to powdercoat them. It's evidence enough for me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, okay I'm sold now. Perhaps the UV types would be okay but I'll stick to spray paint for now.
That's the first post that i've seen with any evidence other than "omg a wheel broke when I hit ______ must be the powdercoat's fault!"
Yeah, okay I'm sold now. Perhaps the UV types would be okay but I'll stick to spray paint for now.
That's the first post that i've seen with any evidence other than "omg a wheel broke when I hit ______ must be the powdercoat's fault!"
| Creations-Unlimited | 09-20-2006 10:06 PM |
[quote=BraveUlysses;15314177]Yeah, okay I'm sold now. Perhaps the UV types would be okay but I'll stick to spray paint for now.
That's the first post that i've seen with any evidence other than "omg a wheel broke when I hit ______ must be the powdercoat's fault!"[/quote]
Edit: I'm sure a few years but others may want to know... especially since this is your daily driver, they seem to be holding up quite well.
Brian
That's the first post that i've seen with any evidence other than "omg a wheel broke when I hit ______ must be the powdercoat's fault!"[/quote]
Edit: I'm sure a few years but others may want to know... especially since this is your daily driver, they seem to be holding up quite well.
Brian
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