| Jumpy | 03-28-2005 05:19 AM |
Please explain WRC or rally to a non-car person.
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I know that it sounds funny for me to ask, but everytime I try to expalin, I just don't get my point across. I already try to point people to [url]www.wrc.com[/url], but that does'nt seem to to do the trick.
I'm also thinking about using the WRC for a reserch paper about exporting television programs to an international market, so if anyone could point me to a source about which countries it is most popular, that would be great. Actually just saying where it is popular would do me well, no source needed.
Thanks
-Jumpy :)
I'm also thinking about using the WRC for a reserch paper about exporting television programs to an international market, so if anyone could point me to a source about which countries it is most popular, that would be great. Actually just saying where it is popular would do me well, no source needed.
Thanks
-Jumpy :)
| bjorn240 | 03-28-2005 08:14 AM |
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_racing]Rally Racing (Wikipedia)[/URL]
The only countries where rallying even remotely approach the popularity of ball sports (ie the man on the street can identify a rally driver) are Finland, Sweden, and the UK. Well, and probably Norway, now...
- Christian
The only countries where rallying even remotely approach the popularity of ball sports (ie the man on the street can identify a rally driver) are Finland, Sweden, and the UK. Well, and probably Norway, now...
- Christian
| akuhner | 03-28-2005 09:38 AM |
Wasn't there almost the exact same post, with a very similar title, within the last month? Or was that one too technical for your purposes?
| artkevin | 03-28-2005 09:44 AM |
A race run by a number of cars but 1 at a time because of the difficulty of the track itself, which is a natural and regional (i.e. snow in Sweden and sand in the Sahara). The winner is determined, just like any other race by the lowest time, but since the cars run 1 at a time its accumulative.
The courses can range from tarmac to gravel to snow and sand. The cars are production based (Subaru WRX and Ford Focus) but are enhanced aerodynamically and mechanically to be able to take the punishment of the 3 day events.
Thats my crack at it.
The courses can range from tarmac to gravel to snow and sand. The cars are production based (Subaru WRX and Ford Focus) but are enhanced aerodynamically and mechanically to be able to take the punishment of the 3 day events.
Thats my crack at it.
| Mopho | 03-28-2005 09:55 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240][URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_racing]Rally Racing (Wikipedia)[/URL]
The only countries where rallying even remotely approach the popularity of ball sports (ie the man on the street can identify a rally driver) are Finland, Sweden, and the UK. Well, and probably Norway, now...
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Depending on who you talk to, Ireland is not part of the UK ;). So I will throw Ireland into the fray, they are rabid about rally. As a matter of fact, there is more WRC cars in Ireland right now than anywhere.
The only countries where rallying even remotely approach the popularity of ball sports (ie the man on the street can identify a rally driver) are Finland, Sweden, and the UK. Well, and probably Norway, now...
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Depending on who you talk to, Ireland is not part of the UK ;). So I will throw Ireland into the fray, they are rabid about rally. As a matter of fact, there is more WRC cars in Ireland right now than anywhere.
| WRXedUSA | 03-28-2005 12:38 PM |
[url]http://www.specialstage.com/links.asp[/url]
| Jumpy | 03-28-2005 01:49 PM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]Wasn't there almost the exact same post, with a very similar title, within the last month? Or was that one too technical for your purposes?[/QUOTE]
My pre-post search could'nt find it. Was it any good?
My pre-post search could'nt find it. Was it any good?
| leaknoil | 03-28-2005 04:05 PM |
There is a video floating around called "The Evolution of Rallying" that is a good starting point for getting up to speed on rallying. It covers pretty much the whole history of it. Watching it will allow you not to look like an idiot when some european you bump into starts on about how great group b was and how rally sucks without it.
| MattDell | 03-28-2005 04:26 PM |
^Where did you find it?
| Neek | 03-28-2005 04:54 PM |
Jumpy is the name of my son's tadpole. He just grew back legs.
| LKemp | 03-28-2005 05:13 PM |
"In like a lamb out like a lion" covers the history of american rally real well. Its a story about America's most successful rallyist John Buffum.
| GravelRash | 03-28-2005 06:11 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]The only countries where rallying even remotely approach the popularity of ball sports (ie the man on the street can identify a rally driver) are Finland, Sweden, and the UK. Well, and probably Norway, now...
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I think you gotta add Spain, at least until Carlos retired ;)
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I think you gotta add Spain, at least until Carlos retired ;)
| jerseybrandon | 03-28-2005 06:20 PM |
Rally is huge in the carribean too. Its amazing how many ex-WRC cars are in Barbados and Jamaica.
| ratt_finkel | 03-28-2005 06:28 PM |
Rally is pretty large everywhere except here.
When I tell people about it, I say this. Imagine a normal 4-door car with about 400hp, super sweet suspension hauling ass down roads barely wide enough for one car. And it takes places on these surfaces, etc.
When I tell people about it, I say this. Imagine a normal 4-door car with about 400hp, super sweet suspension hauling ass down roads barely wide enough for one car. And it takes places on these surfaces, etc.
| RichardM | 03-28-2005 06:48 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Rally is pretty large everywhere except here.
When I tell people about it, I say this. Imagine a normal 4-door car with about 400hp, super sweet suspension hauling ass down roads barely wide enough for one car. And it takes places on these surfaces, etc.[/QUOTE]
We're trying to make it bigger here. Did we see you at the last Rallye de Paris? Coming up again next Thanksgiving.
Richard
When I tell people about it, I say this. Imagine a normal 4-door car with about 400hp, super sweet suspension hauling ass down roads barely wide enough for one car. And it takes places on these surfaces, etc.[/QUOTE]
We're trying to make it bigger here. Did we see you at the last Rallye de Paris? Coming up again next Thanksgiving.
Richard
| Safe Drives | 03-28-2005 08:47 PM |
[url="http://www.oregonrally.com/?page=faq"]http://www.oregonrally.com/?page=faq[/url]
[b]So what is Performance Rally?[/b]
Quite simply, it is a flat-out race over closed sections of rural roads by modified production automobiles. It is different than most car races in that: [list=1][*]Competitors race one car at a time against the clock, usually at one-minute intervals.[*]Flat-out racing is done on limited access roads, blocked off from "civilian" traffic, rather than on prepared tracks.[*]Events are usually several hundred miles long, often lasting for several days. Each car has a driver and a co-driver.[*]In-between the racing stages, the cars travel over public roads (transit) and are required to obey all traffic laws.[/list]
[b]So what is Performance Rally?[/b]
Quite simply, it is a flat-out race over closed sections of rural roads by modified production automobiles. It is different than most car races in that: [list=1][*]Competitors race one car at a time against the clock, usually at one-minute intervals.[*]Flat-out racing is done on limited access roads, blocked off from "civilian" traffic, rather than on prepared tracks.[*]Events are usually several hundred miles long, often lasting for several days. Each car has a driver and a co-driver.[*]In-between the racing stages, the cars travel over public roads (transit) and are required to obey all traffic laws.[/list]
| jerrySTi | 03-28-2005 09:03 PM |
Real cars, on real roads, going real fast..... ;)
This almost sounds too close to street racing.... But is sanctioned by a national body and on roads closed to public traffic.
This almost sounds too close to street racing.... But is sanctioned by a national body and on roads closed to public traffic.
| leaknoil | 03-29-2005 01:36 AM |
If it ever did get big in the US they would probably have to change the hell out of it. Lawyers would see to that. All it would take is one injury to a spectator and I could see that pretty easily with 1000 drunk NASCAR fans lining the course. Instead of throwing snow on the course we would have people throwing empty beer bottles at the cars. I can just imagine the Daytona Beach Rally of 2010..
| akuhner | 03-29-2005 09:30 AM |
[QUOTE=leaknoil]If it ever did get big in the US they would probably have to change the hell out of it. Lawyers would see to that. All it would take is one injury to a spectator ......[/QUOTE]
Wow, way to predict the last few years! ;)
Wow, way to predict the last few years! ;)
| Osgood30 | 03-29-2005 09:50 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho] As a matter of fact, there is more WRC cars in Ireland right now than anywhere.[/QUOTE]
you mean in NYC? :p
you mean in NYC? :p
| ratt_finkel | 03-29-2005 12:49 PM |
[QUOTE=RichardM]We're trying to make it bigger here. Did we see you at the last Rallye de Paris? Coming up again next Thanksgiving.
Richard[/QUOTE]
Hey Richard, I think I might have met you last year at an autocross at Pennington Field. Are you campaigning the Cobra in rally still? If there is nothing going on that weekend, I will be more than happy to come out to Paris.
Jeremy "wishes he had enough money to rally" Foley
Richard[/QUOTE]
Hey Richard, I think I might have met you last year at an autocross at Pennington Field. Are you campaigning the Cobra in rally still? If there is nothing going on that weekend, I will be more than happy to come out to Paris.
Jeremy "wishes he had enough money to rally" Foley
| RichardM | 03-29-2005 01:25 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Hey Richard, I think I might have met you last year at an autocross at Pennington Field. Are you campaigning the Cobra in rally still? If there is nothing going on that weekend, I will be more than happy to come out to Paris.
Jeremy "wishes he had enough money to rally" Foley[/QUOTE]
Still trying to get the Cobra rally and street legal.
The cheap part of rally is getting a car. The expensive part is the travel both in terms of time away from work and hotel bills. I too darn old to drive straight through any more.
Jeremy "wishes he had enough money to rally" Foley[/QUOTE]
Still trying to get the Cobra rally and street legal.
The cheap part of rally is getting a car. The expensive part is the travel both in terms of time away from work and hotel bills. I too darn old to drive straight through any more.
| ratt_finkel | 03-29-2005 04:48 PM |
[QUOTE=RichardM]Still trying to get the Cobra rally and street legal.
The cheap part of rally is getting a car. The expensive part is the travel both in terms of time away from work and hotel bills. I too darn old to drive straight through any more.[/QUOTE]
So I've read. I've done alot of research, and just running one event would be enough to kill my bank account. And that would be the one local event. I can't imagine doing an entire season.
What problems are you having with the Cobra? I might be able to help, or put you in touch with someone that can.
The cheap part of rally is getting a car. The expensive part is the travel both in terms of time away from work and hotel bills. I too darn old to drive straight through any more.[/QUOTE]
So I've read. I've done alot of research, and just running one event would be enough to kill my bank account. And that would be the one local event. I can't imagine doing an entire season.
What problems are you having with the Cobra? I might be able to help, or put you in touch with someone that can.
| RichardM | 03-29-2005 05:34 PM |
I need a lot of the air pollution stuff for the engine. And I want the under dash stuff for the A/C. I find a working A/C keeps the front window defrosted a lot better than just hot air. And a stock sterring column instead of the racing stick that is now pointed at my chest. And stock brakes instead of the Wilwoods that are on the car now both because I don't brake that much to need race brakes and because I want to go to a 15 inch tire as they are half the price of 16s. Basically I want to get a 94 or 95 Mustang V8 that is totally clapped out and take parts off of it. Forgot to mention, I also need a speedometer too. Racing transmission will come from Craig Taylor's shop when I get that far. Any help locating a parts car is appreciated.
Richard
Richard
| ratt_finkel | 03-31-2005 02:35 PM |
Richard, I've had great luck using these guys in the past.
[url]http://www.getusedparts.com/Default.asp[/url]
They are networked with 100's of Salvage and Recycling Yards across the country.
[url]http://www.getusedparts.com/Default.asp[/url]
They are networked with 100's of Salvage and Recycling Yards across the country.
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 04-01-2005 05:00 AM |
[QUOTE=Safe Drives][. Each car has a driver and a co-driver.[*]In-between the racing stages, the cars travel over public roads (transit) and are required to obey all traffic laws.[/list][/QUOTE]
you think they really obey traffic laws? the drivers are human you know.
i think the gb rally proves that they dont really do it.
i think 17 drivers got speeding tickets last year. :lol:
you think they really obey traffic laws? the drivers are human you know.
i think the gb rally proves that they dont really do it.
i think 17 drivers got speeding tickets last year. :lol:
| spongejosh | 04-01-2005 06:55 AM |
they don't speed that much. i was following one of the subarus from france at last years rallye deutschland between two of the stages. we were sitting on the side of the road looking at the map and deciding where we wanted to go for the next stage and how to get there. all of a sudden we hear a thunderous roar and one of the Focus' flies by us. we were all pretty amazed. we started packing up the maps when we heard another loud exhaust coming up behind us. i started the car and we pulled out right on his ass. it was awesome. i think my friend took some video with his digicam. he was speeding but nothing crazy. pretty much just driving like anyone else would on those back roads. there are now a bunch of germans that have pics of the rally car with my car in the background. they were all over the sides of the road taking pics of us. it was almost the coolest thing ever. however i have digressed from my point.
although they are "required" to follow traffic laws, they don't. but they don't drive like idiots on the public roads either.
josh
although they are "required" to follow traffic laws, they don't. but they don't drive like idiots on the public roads either.
josh
| iwanbo | 04-01-2005 12:55 PM |
I just got into the rally world about December-ish. I tuned in for the Monte Carlo rally, and it was the coolest thing I've ever saw haha. I know there's more to it than what they show on TV, so I've got a lot to learn about it :o
In my opinion, rally drivers are probably the best drivers in the world. Be it while they are racing, or driving around town with their families.
In my opinion, rally drivers are probably the best drivers in the world. Be it while they are racing, or driving around town with their families.
| mcowger | 04-01-2005 01:08 PM |
I describe it as 'mountain biking for cars'.
| Mopho | 04-01-2005 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=spongejosh]they don't speed that much. i was following one of the subarus from france at last years rallye deutschland between two of the stages. we were sitting on the side of the road looking at the map and deciding where we wanted to go for the next stage and how to get there. all of a sudden we hear a thunderous roar and one of the Focus' flies by us. we were all pretty amazed. we started packing up the maps when we heard another loud exhaust coming up behind us. i started the car and we pulled out right on his ass. it was awesome. i think my friend took some video with his digicam. he was speeding but nothing crazy. pretty much just driving like anyone else would on those back roads. there are now a bunch of germans that have pics of the rally car with my car in the background. they were all over the sides of the road taking pics of us. it was almost the coolest thing ever. however i have digressed from my point.
although they are "required" to follow traffic laws, they don't. but they don't drive like idiots on the public roads either.
josh[/QUOTE]
Try going to Catalunya, because of the traffic problem they were running late to the time control and subsequently flying down the wrong side of the road at near triple digit speeds and almost running people off the road (me included). Fortunately, in Spain no one really cared and the police eventually gave them escorts
It would be a totally different story in the US
although they are "required" to follow traffic laws, they don't. but they don't drive like idiots on the public roads either.
josh[/QUOTE]
Try going to Catalunya, because of the traffic problem they were running late to the time control and subsequently flying down the wrong side of the road at near triple digit speeds and almost running people off the road (me included). Fortunately, in Spain no one really cared and the police eventually gave them escorts
It would be a totally different story in the US
| sunnynw | 04-02-2005 02:35 AM |
[QUOTE=parker/slc/gc8fan]you think they really obey traffic laws? the drivers are human you know.
i think the gb rally proves that they dont really do it.
i think 17 drivers got speeding tickets last year. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Here in the NW race officals set up control points (some marked, some not) with radar detectors to make sure teams are doing the speed limit. If they or their service crew are caught speeding, time penalties are given out.
i think the gb rally proves that they dont really do it.
i think 17 drivers got speeding tickets last year. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Here in the NW race officals set up control points (some marked, some not) with radar detectors to make sure teams are doing the speed limit. If they or their service crew are caught speeding, time penalties are given out.
| LyveWRX | 04-02-2005 08:13 AM |
[quote]"Here in the NW race officals set up control points (some marked, some not) with radar detectors to make sure teams are doing the speed limit. If they or their service crew are caught speeding, time penalties are given out."[/quote]
Yeah they did that at Sno*Drift this year too. The Friday radar control caught like 15 people IIRC. On Saturday no one was speeding through that control.
Yeah they did that at Sno*Drift this year too. The Friday radar control caught like 15 people IIRC. On Saturday no one was speeding through that control.
| Mopho | 04-02-2005 09:59 AM |
[QUOTE=sunnynw]Here in the NW race officals set up control points (some marked, some not) with radar detectors to make sure teams are doing the speed limit. If they or their service crew are caught speeding, time penalties are given out.[/QUOTE]
That is done at most US rallies.
That is done at most US rallies.
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