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Rally guys - what lighting do you use? part 1

Hyper 09-21-2006 12:38 AM

Rally guys - what lighting do you use?
We got to the stage where we need to put proper lighting for our 04 gravel STI :)

going with the pod on the hood with 4 lights, most propably all HID

what do you guys recomend?

ps
any hookups would be nice :D
Carisma 09-21-2006 12:42 AM

Just get rally bulbs from [url]www.powerbulbs.co.uk[/url]
Hyper 09-21-2006 12:46 AM

bulbs, eh?:lol:

I am talking Hella 4000 Rallye kind of stuff here:p
Subie Gal 09-21-2006 12:48 AM

hella 4000 pod lamps, in HID

see (scroll down)
[url]http://www.rallylights.com/hella/pod.asp[/url]



2 driving

2 pencil

$700 each

have fun

Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
RoundtheBend 09-21-2006 12:59 AM

The same as Jamie except the outer two are halogen. :)
PA04STI 09-21-2006 01:08 AM

I've ordered stuff from them they are very good
RS WRC 09-21-2006 07:55 AM

Other than rallylights, P-sport is also a good source for alternative KC Hilites...
mykrrrr 09-21-2006 07:59 AM

Def +1 for rallylights.com

We've got four Hella 3000s on 'squeeky'...hopefully that's enough for LSPR. :)
JC_595 09-21-2006 08:14 AM

We've used Hellas or KC's in halogen.

I preferred the Hellas. Fuller light patterns. Seemed to be slightly brighter too, but they were on different cars at different speeds tho...

You prolly dont need HID's unless you really want to spend money.
fliz 09-21-2006 08:56 AM

I've got IPF on the VW. Outer two are Halogen driving, one HID flood and one HID pencil in the middle. Lit up the road like it was daylight.

BTW...I may have 4 Hella 4000 halogen pod lights for sale. 2 pencil, 2 driving, 2 harnesses and a universal pod. I need to check with the buyer I had lined up (I found somebody else, JC)
PA04STI 09-21-2006 09:38 AM

[QUOTE=JC_595;15324999]We've used Hellas or KC's in halogen.

I preferred the Hellas. Fuller light patterns. Seemed to be slightly brighter too, but they were on different cars at different speeds tho...

You prolly dont need HID's unless you really want to spend money.[/QUOTE]

Hellas also have a way better housing: easier to replace bulbs, lenses, & do much better against the elements.

I would go Hellas way before KCs and I've owned both.

Hellas are alot more quality in every aspect.

Matt
bjorn240 09-21-2006 11:27 AM

If you're getting HIDs, I would definitely get PIAAs. The PIAA HIDs are extremely bright and very easy to adjust. As a second and third choice, IPF and Hella.
Rapid_Roo 09-21-2006 01:38 PM

Hella 4000 HIDs FTW :D
rallynutdon 09-21-2006 02:00 PM

4 Hella 4000s, 2 driving, 2 cornering. HIDs are unbelievably expensive. Pencil not necessary IMHO.
fasteddie 09-21-2006 02:43 PM

Now:
4-Hella 4000 HIDs from [url]www.rallylights.com[/url], in the hood pods.
(2 pencils, 2 euros)
I purchased lenses, emittors and ballasts separately. Saves about 1/2 the $.
Someday:
2 halogen cornering beams in the cornering pods.
Ted Mendham
[url]www.rensport.net[/url]
RB5 Clone 09-21-2006 02:56 PM

On Tulip the GC8 RS rally car, we run 4 Hella 4000s (2 pencil, 2 driving) in Prodrive style split pods. also run 2 Hella fogs in bumper pods, which are a nice addition in fog or snow but are very prone to damage on stage due to their low positioning. These are non-HID lights, and seem to work just fine. I'm checking out aftermarket HID ballasts to upgrade the driving lights. tho.

realize that building/assembling your own light pods will be an incredibly time-consuming and painstaking project. do NOT underestimate the time it takes to build your pods, mount them and aim them properly.

Dave G
Last Ditch Racing
Easy Rider 09-21-2006 04:55 PM

I use Hella's - the center 2 are HID - outer are Halogen.
[IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6260/dsc01501wb3.jpg[/IMG]
AlbaScoob 09-22-2006 04:01 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

mmmmm....in a few months....
vintagemilano 09-22-2006 04:39 PM

If any of you are budget minded there is a GE bulb, 4522, that is a 13v 250w aircraft landing light. Standard PAR36 size and you can get them at Acklands for cheap, twenty bucksish. Also at Acklands are rubber mount tractor housings that also take PAR36 bulbs and are cheap, around thirty bucks. Two of these put out huge light. Here's a pic of two on my car with two 4000 euro beams.
[url]http://static.flickr.com/56/106806153_f7d890932c_b.jpg[/url]
Calamity Jesus 09-22-2006 04:43 PM

How many of you have lost some HID lamps in an off?
davis10 09-22-2006 11:45 PM

How much money do you want to spend, thats the real question.
davis10 09-22-2006 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=davis10;15351331]How much money do you want to spend, thats the real question.[/QUOTE]

and what they sell at "Power Bulbs" is not what you want, if your looking for a place to buy lights [url]www.rallylights.com[/url] is what you want
ROC pit-bull 09-23-2006 01:09 AM

primitive has a nice set of lights they sell

[url]http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/lightforce/lightforce_1.htm[/url]
Turbo9000 09-23-2006 02:49 AM

Ive got some 130w cibies

its on a street car, in place of the standard wrx fogs. insane brightness. about the onlything i dont like about them is they use h2 bulbs.. which are not easy to get here.
Morison 09-23-2006 03:01 AM

I've been really happy with the PIAA lights I've used in both the rally car and my daily driver.
I'd strongly advise pencils and driving and fogs for cornering. I've never run with HIDs, and suspect that while they'd be nice, the right halogen set-up is fine till you're fighting for the win.
Pencils are good for helping you judge how far away corners are, Drivings are prety much showing you where the road is going too, and cornering will keep you from cutting at a bad time.
As obvious as this should sound ... aiming lights right makes all the difference in the world ... and I've seen a lot of cars with lights pointing in all directions. (started a stage at defi following a car that was tree topping with his lights at about 150m down the road, or less)
RRR-K2 09-23-2006 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=Morison;15352471]aiming lights right makes all the difference in the world ... [/QUOTE]
Right on! :)

Personally, if it's hilly terrain, I prefer to have one of the driving lights aimed just a little bit high and the other aimed just a little bit low: helps illuminate the peaks and fill in the valleys.

If you get into a fog situation you can also tape off the bottom part of the driving lights to help cut out some of the "glare" reflecting off the fog, just be careful that you don't tape off too much and overheat the light. :(

Also, don't forget that the "general guide" for placement is that driving lights should be as high and as close together as possible, and fog/cornering lights should be as low and as far apart (i.e as close to the corner/sides of the car) as possible.

Matt Kennedy
[URL=http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com][U][COLOR=DarkRed]www.RockyRoadRacing.com[/COLOR][/U][/URL]
thechickencow 09-23-2006 12:17 PM

My car had PIAA's, they worked well (non HID's) but chad's IPF's that are HID are definitely better.
Bayley 09-23-2006 08:35 PM

FWIW, here is what my Hella Rallye 4000 Xenon's looked like:

Low beams:
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/gbayley/misc/night_lights_004.jpg[/img]

Two Pencil Beams:
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/gbayley/misc/night_lights_003.jpg[/img]

Honestly, if I had to do it over again, I would go with just one pencil beam and at least one [i]Euro[/i] (driving) beam. The Euro beam beam projects [i]almost[/i] as far, but is a lot wider. Also, the second pencil beam really doesn't add that much. My ideal setup would be one pencil in the middle with two Euro's on each side.

This is where / how I had the Pencils mounted. I wanted something that was quick on / off.

[img]http://webpages.charter.net/gbayley/misc/thumb_lights_05.jpg[/img]

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