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Short throw shifters part 1

mxtwoforty 11-19-2006 11:12 PM

Short throw shifters
Are the cheap ones on ebay legit, or possibly detrimental to your subys tranny. Should i stick with the B&M?
WRXDriftR 11-19-2006 11:20 PM

take a look at the TurnInConcepts.com website, they offer a short throw which is one of the best for the subaru
Jeff1024 11-19-2006 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=mxtwoforty;16049642]Are the cheap ones on ebay legit, or possibly detrimental to your subys tranny. Should i stick with the B&M?[/QUOTE]

Just spend the $100 and get the kartboy SS, hell go crazy and spend a bit more and get the bushings as well.
mxtwoforty 11-19-2006 11:25 PM

[quote=Jeff1024;16049736]Just spend the $100 and get the kartboy SS, hell go crazy and spend a bit more and get the bushings as well.[/quote]

Link of where to get it?...
sc00ter 11-19-2006 11:30 PM

um.....

[url]www.kartboy.com[/url]
mxtwoforty 11-19-2006 11:31 PM

Oh i see...
AWD>FWD 11-20-2006 12:07 AM

Cobb adjustable short shifter FTW.

[url]www.cobbtuning.com[/url]
bigboss 11-20-2006 12:31 AM

Kartboy short shifter, front/rear shifter bushings, and knuckleball FTW
jmonty 11-20-2006 01:29 AM

Plus 1 for the B & M and Bushings!!
99subi 11-20-2006 02:18 AM

STI full SS linkage /thread
Junglist 11-20-2006 03:19 AM

Subydude has one too.
D fresh 11-20-2006 04:15 AM

Crossposting is bad.
Ender81 11-20-2006 04:33 AM

Homemade FTW :)
evilWagon 11-20-2006 07:39 AM

[quote=99subi;16050988]STI full SS linkage /thread[/quote]

+1

More than just a shortened lever arm!
bWRX 11-20-2006 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=evilWagon;16051831]+1

More than just a shortened lever arm![/QUOTE]

It isn't even a shortened lever arm, its the linkage.

Has anybody seen or used the Group-N Competition shift linkage that rallispec has on their website? [URL="http://www.rallispec.com/prod_trans.htm"]http://www.rallispec.com/prod_trans.htm[/URL]
flyinEyeball 11-20-2006 10:45 AM

When I was looking for this upgrade earlier this year, the Kartboy had the best reviews. I installed one in my wagon as well as F&R shifter bushings and the Turn in Concepts shifter pivot bushing.

You can't go wrong with this combo.

[URL="www.kartboy.com"]www.kartboy.com[/URL]
[URL="www.turninconcepts.com"]
www.turninconcepts.com[/URL]
PARANOID56 11-20-2006 12:09 PM

the only shifter you should get is the Kartboy. hands down the best one out there.

Shane
Matt_H 11-20-2006 12:11 PM

+1 for Kartboy
ekw 11-20-2006 12:34 PM

just did my Kartboy SS, front & rear stay bushings & TiC linkage & pivot bushing install.
highly recommended.
RockBlocker 11-20-2006 02:54 PM

Heres another one to throw in the mix for ya

[URL="https://rbaftermarket.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1334_1335_7201&products_id=5023&osCsid=6c8177f91fc6dbca18e519652069abd3"]Click[/URL]
teiva-boy 11-20-2006 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=99subi;16050988]STI full SS linkage /thread[/QUOTE]

Not only do you pay more for this, but it is incomplete, requiring Kartboy bushings to really get a good feel out of the whole package.

shortening the throw is one thing, but really improving the feel with the bushings is a must do mod.

Save your money and get a Kartboy setup from Turn In Concepts. The stiffer bushings are worth their weight in gold.


No we can really say /Thread. :rolleyes:
StiPete 11-20-2006 03:49 PM

TIC/Kartboy FTW!
kyleblix 11-20-2006 07:03 PM

don't put any cheap e-bay part on your car.
+12345 for Kartboy
[email�protected] 11-20-2006 11:41 PM

[QUOTE=RockBlocker;16056372]Heres another one to throw in the mix for ya

[URL="https://rbaftermarket.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1334_1335_7201&products_id=5023&osCsid=6c8177f91fc6dbca18e519652069abd3"]Click[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hey that looks like the knockoff of our shifter... :rolleyes:

[email�protected]
Chas Metivier 11-21-2006 11:49 AM

Check out the Go Fast Bits shifter. It changes the shifter geometry, not just shortening the rod. I had a Kartboy for a long time and liked it but, I have short arms, and found myself reaching out for it. The GFB unit keeps the shifter rod fairly stock length and moves it back slightly while shortening the shifts to as little as 22mm's per gate. Shifts are now a flick of the wrist!They have the shortest throw on the market and three point adjustability. Sorry Tom, I love my GFB and will never go back!
BUCKman_02 11-21-2006 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=ekw;16054534]just did my Kartboy SS, front & rear stay bushings & TiC linkage & pivot bushing install.
highly recommended.[/QUOTE]

+1 no joke
JnJassociates 11-21-2006 12:48 PM

+1 for the GFB unit. Our customers like it so much, it is the only shifter we carry.


Bryan
PARANOID56 11-21-2006 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Chas Metivier;16067318]Check out the Go Fast Bits shifter. It changes the shifter geometry, not just shortening the rod. I had a Kartboy for a long time and liked it[/QUOTE]

ouch, 200 bucks for the wrx, and 260 for the sti. looks interesting.

for a 100 bucks cheaper, you can get the kartboy and suport a vender who has been here from the begining :D :D

Shane
crynow82 11-21-2006 01:00 PM

+1 for B&M thats what I have used in about 10 plus different cars
ekw 11-21-2006 01:11 PM

for ~$245 you could have (for STi)
Kartboy lever
Kartboy front stay bushing
Kartboy rear stay bushing
TiC linkage bushings
Tic pivot bushings
Army Guy and/or Glider.
(Super Shifter bundle from TiC)
:)
JnJassociates 11-22-2006 11:31 AM

[QUOTE=PARANOID56;16068122]ouch, 200 bucks for the wrx, and 260 for the sti. looks interesting.

for a 100 bucks cheaper, you can get the kartboy and suport a vender who has been here from the begining :D :D

Shane[/QUOTE]


We have the GFB shifter for both the 5 speed and 6 speed for A LOT less then that. Like everything else it depends on where you shop. :)


Bryan
blue blurr 11-22-2006 11:54 AM

Is there a shifter out there that is height adjustable without loosing a short throw?
njskatchmo 11-22-2006 11:57 AM

blue blurr, thats the whole idea of a short throw, its shorter in height thus shorter in throw. It has to do with the physics of lever arms. I think i'm the only person who didn't like their short throw. It made me feel like i was going to break 1st gear every time i put it in gear. Email tom he may be able to hook you up with a deal, he did for me.
SteamboatGeoff 11-22-2006 07:44 PM

SPT Short Throw?
Please no flames as I am new to the land of Subbies ect.....

I recently purchased an 07 WRX STi Limited and had the dealer add on the short throw shifter before I picked it up (only way I could sneak it past the wifey!)

Anyway...I cannot tell a difference in throw length at all......I went back to the dealer and sat in a few of the STi's on the lot and felt the throw distance and they all felt exactly the same as my "short throw." Is there anyway to figure out if the short throw was actually installed or if the SPT short throw is really not very short? Does anyone know how far the throw "should be" in the stock vs. SPT short throw?

THanks in advance!

Geoff
blue blurr 11-22-2006 08:50 PM

[QUOTE=njskatchmo;16080500]blue blurr, thats the whole idea of a short throw, its shorter in height thus shorter in throw. It has to do with the physics of lever arms. I think i'm the only person who didn't like their short throw. It made me feel like i was going to break 1st gear every time i put it in gear. Email tom he may be able to hook you up with a deal, he did for me.[/QUOTE]

Well I know the height of the shifter can determine throw, but from what I remember its the mounting points that really contribute to the throw, not the height. I've seen a few short throw height adjustable STi shifters, but none for the wrx 5mt.
[email�protected] 11-22-2006 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=SteamboatGeoff;16086113]Please no flames as I am new to the land of Subbies ect.....

I recently purchased an 07 WRX STi Limited and had the dealer add on the short throw shifter before I picked it up (only way I could sneak it past the wifey!)

Anyway...I cannot tell a difference in throw length at all......I went back to the dealer and sat in a few of the STi's on the lot and felt the throw distance and they all felt exactly the same as my "short throw." Is there anyway to figure out if the short throw was actually installed or if the SPT short throw is really not very short? Does anyone know how far the throw "should be" in the stock vs. SPT short throw?

THanks in advance!

Geoff[/QUOTE]

the SPT option is only a 10% reduction in throw. its hardly noticable. you can pull the shift boot off and see what color it is. the optional on the 6 spds are a dark green color. the OE one is a gold color shifter linkage rod.

Tom
Mulder 11-22-2006 10:12 PM

Also the height of the shifter is not what makes it a true short throw, it's the relocated pivot point. A shifter with a modified pivot point can be the same height as stock and still have a shorter throw.
Given the same pivot geometry, a shorter lever will make the throw appear shorter but it's actually the same.
bl_easy 02-24-2007 01:53 AM

Kartboy SS
Kartboy bushings
Kartboy rear other thing bushing

FTW
crewchief97 02-24-2007 09:17 AM

<-Has the cobb adjustable and loves it, but either it or the kartboy would be good purchases. Good luck

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