| RebelINS | 11-16-2003 06:59 AM |
What racing gear do you wear?
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I am curious as to what driving gear everyone has tried out, what have you liked, disliked? I am looking for some shoes and a suit. I will be using it for driving a formula SAE car, rally, and the shoes when I autocross. As far as suits are concerned do you guys prefer a 3 layer nomex suit, or do you like the nomex underwear with a thinner suit? I already have Sparco Profi 2 gloves which I have been happy with.
-Wes
-Wes
| mykrrrr | 11-16-2003 08:37 AM |
Don't have anything yet but I'm planning on getting a "kit" together for Club Rally.
I'm gonna get:
Bieffe open face helmet
Racequip suit
These are to match my driver's kit. We have to be the bestest dressed hack Club Rally team we can be. :lol:
Not sure if I'll get a balaclava or nomex underwear.
I'll get some gloves as well but I probably won't wear them for Club Rally since I'm gonna be a navvie. I'll wear them for autoX though.
Good luck Wes.
-mykr.
I'm gonna get:
Bieffe open face helmet
Racequip suit
These are to match my driver's kit. We have to be the bestest dressed hack Club Rally team we can be. :lol:
Not sure if I'll get a balaclava or nomex underwear.
I'll get some gloves as well but I probably won't wear them for Club Rally since I'm gonna be a navvie. I'll wear them for autoX though.
Good luck Wes.
-mykr.
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-16-2003 07:59 PM |
I use:
OMP Clubman boots (for autox, whatever, sometimes as rally spares)
OMP Best boots (for rally)
OMP Tecnica 3 layer suit (for rally)
OMP America gloves (for rally)
Simpson gloves (old pair for track days, autox, whatever)
OMP balaclava (for rally)
Sparco socks (for rally)
Bell Mag 5 helmet (for everything, probably buying a Peltor)
OMP Clubman boots (for autox, whatever, sometimes as rally spares)
OMP Best boots (for rally)
OMP Tecnica 3 layer suit (for rally)
OMP America gloves (for rally)
Simpson gloves (old pair for track days, autox, whatever)
OMP balaclava (for rally)
Sparco socks (for rally)
Bell Mag 5 helmet (for everything, probably buying a Peltor)
| RB5 Clone | 11-16-2003 08:52 PM |
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Here are the clothes I wear to get scared/sweaty/frozen/muddy/dusty out on the stages....
Sparco Fashion 5 suit (3 layer Nomex, black suit looked cool in the catalog but is wicked hot in the sun...tho it's also nice n toasty in winter. overall really comfy and stylin w/great freedom of movement for digging car out of snowbanks)
RaceQuip nomex undershirt and sox (Danger Danger: Olfactory Funk Alert!)
sparco balaclava (red "head condom" makes helmet fit tight but adds quite a bit of confidence and psych factor)
Five Ten Guide Tennie shoes (these actually are climbing shoes, cut tight with sticky rubber soles that NEVER slip off da pedals. not fire rated. aiming to get Pilote Monte Carlo low-cuts before long)
Sparco Profi 3 gloves (great grip on wheel, tight fit, great for a cat burglar or safecracker)
Bell MagIV helmet (heavy. hot. safe. boring. need a Peltor like the awesome kevlar one my partner JoMo wears.)
AutoPower neck collar (for codriving rough events this collar minimizes neck soreness at the end of a long day of reading stage notes while head is bouncing like a crash test dummy)
cheers
DAve G
Sparco Fashion 5 suit (3 layer Nomex, black suit looked cool in the catalog but is wicked hot in the sun...tho it's also nice n toasty in winter. overall really comfy and stylin w/great freedom of movement for digging car out of snowbanks)
RaceQuip nomex undershirt and sox (Danger Danger: Olfactory Funk Alert!)
sparco balaclava (red "head condom" makes helmet fit tight but adds quite a bit of confidence and psych factor)
Five Ten Guide Tennie shoes (these actually are climbing shoes, cut tight with sticky rubber soles that NEVER slip off da pedals. not fire rated. aiming to get Pilote Monte Carlo low-cuts before long)
Sparco Profi 3 gloves (great grip on wheel, tight fit, great for a cat burglar or safecracker)
Bell MagIV helmet (heavy. hot. safe. boring. need a Peltor like the awesome kevlar one my partner JoMo wears.)
AutoPower neck collar (for codriving rough events this collar minimizes neck soreness at the end of a long day of reading stage notes while head is bouncing like a crash test dummy)
cheers
DAve G
| thechickencow | 11-16-2003 10:32 PM |
What exactly does a balaclava do for you?
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-16-2003 10:51 PM |
Protects your next and face from fire.
When you're driving a rally car you think a lot of about how much skin is exposed should you run off the road and catch fire.
It also makes a good sweat sock to soak up the sweat rather than stinking the helmet out.
Glenn
When you're driving a rally car you think a lot of about how much skin is exposed should you run off the road and catch fire.
It also makes a good sweat sock to soak up the sweat rather than stinking the helmet out.
Glenn
| TBreu007 | 11-16-2003 11:43 PM |
Suit: Momo Top Racer...every bit as nice as Stand 21's 2000 suit for a couple hundred less. Three piece is most road racers wear if money isn't as much a factor. 2 layer with underwear is usually less money.
Gloves: Alpine Star makes the most comfortable and solid gloves I have ever worn...hands down (no pun intended)
Shoes: Alpine Star too, or Piloti if you plan on walking around a lot in them. The thin soles on the stars tend to wear out fast.
Gloves: Alpine Star makes the most comfortable and solid gloves I have ever worn...hands down (no pun intended)
Shoes: Alpine Star too, or Piloti if you plan on walking around a lot in them. The thin soles on the stars tend to wear out fast.
| thechickencow | 11-16-2003 11:59 PM |
I think once I'm rallying I'll be thinking more about running off the road and hitting a tree.
tcc
tcc
| travmn | 11-17-2003 12:09 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Glenn Wallace[/i]
[B]It also makes a good sweat sock to soak up the sweat rather than stinking the helmet out.
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(This is all based on rally experience, so, take with a grain of salt)
Balaclavas are very nice... especially for rally. (1) They can help keep dust out of your mouth (2) They make it easier to slide your helmet on and off (3) they keep your helmet from stinking (4) they can help you keep cooler (when you air it out on a service break, the built up sweat has a nice cooling effect
Peltor is my favorite choice for helmets. Excellent sound dampening.
Sparco sparco 5 is the suit I have. For suits, depending on what is comfortable, you may want a suit that has the special shoulder sections that allow extra flexibility -- basically they make it more comfortable.
I have been thinking about getting some coolwear to go under the suit, but so far I just wear some normal clothes under the suit and it doesn't pose a problem for me except for the hottest of events.
Shoes -- I use some Merrill Hiking boots actually. I just like them in case I need to get out and help push the car. One of these days i'll switch to real racing shoes, but that will be when I stop codriving and start driving.
The only thing I can say is stay away from "cheap" equipment. I've had some inexpensive helmets (g-force for example) that don't last long and weren't very confidence inspiring. Don't forget, you are possibly putting your life in the hands of the equipment you are choosing, so it's definitely not something to skimp on.
[B]It also makes a good sweat sock to soak up the sweat rather than stinking the helmet out.
[/B][/QUOTE]
(This is all based on rally experience, so, take with a grain of salt)
Balaclavas are very nice... especially for rally. (1) They can help keep dust out of your mouth (2) They make it easier to slide your helmet on and off (3) they keep your helmet from stinking (4) they can help you keep cooler (when you air it out on a service break, the built up sweat has a nice cooling effect
Peltor is my favorite choice for helmets. Excellent sound dampening.
Sparco sparco 5 is the suit I have. For suits, depending on what is comfortable, you may want a suit that has the special shoulder sections that allow extra flexibility -- basically they make it more comfortable.
I have been thinking about getting some coolwear to go under the suit, but so far I just wear some normal clothes under the suit and it doesn't pose a problem for me except for the hottest of events.
Shoes -- I use some Merrill Hiking boots actually. I just like them in case I need to get out and help push the car. One of these days i'll switch to real racing shoes, but that will be when I stop codriving and start driving.
The only thing I can say is stay away from "cheap" equipment. I've had some inexpensive helmets (g-force for example) that don't last long and weren't very confidence inspiring. Don't forget, you are possibly putting your life in the hands of the equipment you are choosing, so it's definitely not something to skimp on.
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-17-2003 01:05 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by thechickencow [/i]
[B]I think once I'm rallying I'll be thinking more about running off the road and hitting a tree.
tcc [/B][/QUOTE]
Right, then imagine you're upside down against the tree, the fuel is leaking down on the hot headers... the next car is a minute away...
[B]I think once I'm rallying I'll be thinking more about running off the road and hitting a tree.
tcc [/B][/QUOTE]
Right, then imagine you're upside down against the tree, the fuel is leaking down on the hot headers... the next car is a minute away...
| thechickencow | 11-17-2003 01:09 AM |
There is no spoon.
| Penguinking | 11-17-2003 10:43 PM |
anyone try those shirts that have water lines on them that cool you off?
| GarySheehan | 11-18-2003 03:00 AM |
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[URL=http://www.sparcousa.com/prace_underacc.asp?id=21]Sparco Formula balaclava[/URL]
[URL=http://www.racequip.com/underwear.html]RaceQuip underwear[/URL]
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[URL=http://www.omp1.com/glovesomp.html]OMP Formula gloves[/URL]
[URL=http://store.nofear.com/merchant.cfm?step=4&pid=141]No Fear Driving Force T4 shoes[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sparcousa.com/prace_underacc.asp?id=21]Sparco Formula balaclava[/URL]
[URL=http://www.racequip.com/underwear.html]RaceQuip underwear[/URL]
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| Chaste Automotive | 11-18-2003 10:21 AM |
Had:
Sparco Tech 5 suit best in the business and very light and comfortable even though it was a three layer.
Alpine Stars driving boots, personally too narrow and the heal buged me but to a person with a narrow foot would be great.
Sparco nomex underwear, socks, undershirt, and two layer balaclava.
Now:
Alpine Stars Racing suit which is a no better no worse than the sparco suit just changed it up because the whole team switched to alpine stars.
Diadora Formula boot, quite simply the most comfortable boot I have ever had (sparco was okay, didn't like Alpine Stars or OMP) worth the extra money.
Under garments are all sparco still.
One suit manufacturer that is good that many people do not mention is Stand 21 their suits are very nice as well.
Sparco Tech 5 suit best in the business and very light and comfortable even though it was a three layer.
Alpine Stars driving boots, personally too narrow and the heal buged me but to a person with a narrow foot would be great.
Sparco nomex underwear, socks, undershirt, and two layer balaclava.
Now:
Alpine Stars Racing suit which is a no better no worse than the sparco suit just changed it up because the whole team switched to alpine stars.
Diadora Formula boot, quite simply the most comfortable boot I have ever had (sparco was okay, didn't like Alpine Stars or OMP) worth the extra money.
Under garments are all sparco still.
One suit manufacturer that is good that many people do not mention is Stand 21 their suits are very nice as well.
| recce02 | 11-18-2003 05:02 PM |
I use the Sparco 5 driving suit, I love it!!!!!!!!
and a Bell helmet, want a Peltor very bad!!!!!!
and Sparco gloves, I like the swede on the thumbs for my snot!!!
and for shoes I use Piloti, made of NOMEX
Peace out Marvin
Gravel Cew Rally Team
and a Bell helmet, want a Peltor very bad!!!!!!
and Sparco gloves, I like the swede on the thumbs for my snot!!!
and for shoes I use Piloti, made of NOMEX
Peace out Marvin
Gravel Cew Rally Team
| jprowland | 11-20-2003 12:22 PM |
Rally co-driver here...
Suit: Sparco 3-layer, don't know the model but it's the cheapest 3-layer suit they make. Black and very hot. I'm thinking about getting a 2-layer for summer, but I would never get a 2-piece. The 3-layer isn't too bad as long as you stay hydrated. It helps to be in good shape, something I'm working on.
Helmet: Bell Mag4 open-face. Have a lead on a fast open-class ride next year, and I may upgrade to a Peltor if so. If I had to do it over again, I'd have gotten the Peltor in the first place, better intercom system. Also, I wear a Nomex neck collar (except for the ONE TIME that the car [URL=http://homepage.mac.com/jeremyrowland/photos/2003/defi/index.html]flipped 4 times[/URL] :rolleyes: ) It really doesnt hamper your neck movements as much as you'd think and braces your head pretty darn well.
Nomex underclothes: open-face balaclava, collared short-sleeve shirt, boxers, socks. The balaclava would be the first choice if I were buying them in order. I like it, it actually cools you down for a few minutes when you first put it on soaked in sweat, and keeps your helmet from getting too funky.
Shoes: prefer a low-cut hiking shoe; for winter or muddy events I wear hiking boots. If I were driving, I'd probably invest in a pair of Sparco boots (brand not important, I just like to buy matching clothes) and an over-shoe to wear when I get out of the car. I've thought about the co-driver's shoe that one company makes (Sparco?), but it's not worth it to me...
Gloves: rarely. In winter I have a [URL=http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47661272&parent_category_rn=4501813]pair of mittens[/URL] that fold back to reveal a fingerless glove. Perfect for co-driving...
--
JP Rowland jeremyrowland -at- mac.com
Co-driver, SCCA ProRally
Visit my boring web page: [url]http://homepage.mac.com/jeremyrowland[/url]
Suit: Sparco 3-layer, don't know the model but it's the cheapest 3-layer suit they make. Black and very hot. I'm thinking about getting a 2-layer for summer, but I would never get a 2-piece. The 3-layer isn't too bad as long as you stay hydrated. It helps to be in good shape, something I'm working on.
Helmet: Bell Mag4 open-face. Have a lead on a fast open-class ride next year, and I may upgrade to a Peltor if so. If I had to do it over again, I'd have gotten the Peltor in the first place, better intercom system. Also, I wear a Nomex neck collar (except for the ONE TIME that the car [URL=http://homepage.mac.com/jeremyrowland/photos/2003/defi/index.html]flipped 4 times[/URL] :rolleyes: ) It really doesnt hamper your neck movements as much as you'd think and braces your head pretty darn well.
Nomex underclothes: open-face balaclava, collared short-sleeve shirt, boxers, socks. The balaclava would be the first choice if I were buying them in order. I like it, it actually cools you down for a few minutes when you first put it on soaked in sweat, and keeps your helmet from getting too funky.
Shoes: prefer a low-cut hiking shoe; for winter or muddy events I wear hiking boots. If I were driving, I'd probably invest in a pair of Sparco boots (brand not important, I just like to buy matching clothes) and an over-shoe to wear when I get out of the car. I've thought about the co-driver's shoe that one company makes (Sparco?), but it's not worth it to me...
Gloves: rarely. In winter I have a [URL=http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47661272&parent_category_rn=4501813]pair of mittens[/URL] that fold back to reveal a fingerless glove. Perfect for co-driving...
--
JP Rowland jeremyrowland -at- mac.com
Co-driver, SCCA ProRally
Visit my boring web page: [url]http://homepage.mac.com/jeremyrowland[/url]
| mav1c | 11-20-2003 01:58 PM |
I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned the use of a neck collar. I pretty much won't drive the track without it. One of my instructors a while back said that if you wear a helmet, you should were the collar. They're designed to work as a system. Whatever truth there is to that, I know it helps support my head (and keep me from doing the dreaded head lean) in tight corners, so It must help in a harsh impact.
Aslo, I've heard different opinions on this. Do you where the neck collar with the connection in the front, or in the back?
Aslo, I've heard different opinions on this. Do you where the neck collar with the connection in the front, or in the back?
| bjorn240 | 11-20-2003 03:25 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mav1c [/i]
[B]I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned the use of a neck collar. [snip] so It must help in a harsh impact.
[/B][/QUOTE]
If you do wear a neck collar, they should be worn with the velcro in the front. That said, neck collars do nothing for reducing the risk of basal skull fracture or neck injuries. In fact, studies seem to indicate they increase the risk. I won't wear one, though I use a Recaro SPG seat and am considering a HANS device.
As far as what I wear:
Helmet: Peltor ProCarbon (yay!) or Stilo Linea WRC 03 (boo!)
Suit: Sparco Top5 or OMP (Mitsu)
Shoes: Sparco
Underwear: Sparco
Socks: Stand21 (much stretchier & better than Sparco)
Balaclava: Sparco dual-layer F1 with single face port.
Bag: OMP Co-Bag
Cheers,
- Christian
[B]I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned the use of a neck collar. [snip] so It must help in a harsh impact.
[/B][/QUOTE]
If you do wear a neck collar, they should be worn with the velcro in the front. That said, neck collars do nothing for reducing the risk of basal skull fracture or neck injuries. In fact, studies seem to indicate they increase the risk. I won't wear one, though I use a Recaro SPG seat and am considering a HANS device.
As far as what I wear:
Helmet: Peltor ProCarbon (yay!) or Stilo Linea WRC 03 (boo!)
Suit: Sparco Top5 or OMP (Mitsu)
Shoes: Sparco
Underwear: Sparco
Socks: Stand21 (much stretchier & better than Sparco)
Balaclava: Sparco dual-layer F1 with single face port.
Bag: OMP Co-Bag
Cheers,
- Christian
| mav1c | 11-20-2003 04:14 PM |
I just run track days, so all that equipment is overkill for me now, especiall the HANS device.
So now the neck collar increase the risk of injury? There's always two sides to everything I guess. :(
So now the neck collar increase the risk of injury? There's always two sides to everything I guess. :(
| Butt Dyno | 11-20-2003 07:09 PM |
As far as autox shoes, I just got a pair of indoor soccer shoes. Cheap, simple, better pedal feel than my big-heel running shoes and more room for motion when the seat is pushed forward.
-john
-john
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-20-2003 08:39 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mav1c [/i]
[B]I just run track days, so all that equipment is overkill for me now, especiall the HANS device.
So now the neck collar increase the risk of injury? There's always two sides to everything I guess. :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I think it depends on what kind of racing you're doing. Certainly the deaths of Mark Lovell and Roger Freeman have caused a lot of rally competitors to think a little more about their safety equipment.
I don't fit into the Recaro SPG seat :( ....
[B]I just run track days, so all that equipment is overkill for me now, especiall the HANS device.
So now the neck collar increase the risk of injury? There's always two sides to everything I guess. :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I think it depends on what kind of racing you're doing. Certainly the deaths of Mark Lovell and Roger Freeman have caused a lot of rally competitors to think a little more about their safety equipment.
I don't fit into the Recaro SPG seat :( ....
| Chaste Automotive | 11-21-2003 01:07 AM |
Glen I bet if we used some grease we could get you in one :p.
Hans in theory is a good idea but there needs to be discipline specific HANS, one for Rally, one for NASCAR, one for F1, etc. etc. for it to trully effective.
Hans in theory is a good idea but there needs to be discipline specific HANS, one for Rally, one for NASCAR, one for F1, etc. etc. for it to trully effective.
| mykrrrr | 11-21-2003 12:02 PM |
Would a HANS device even fit "well" in a rally car set up??? I've only ever seen them in more "custom" fit seating arrangements such as F1 or NASCAR.
I think I'll be wearing a neck collar for navvie duties. Less scrambling of my brain so I can read better... :p
I used a neck brace when I went karting a few weeks ago and that totally helped me out. My neck wasn't all sore like it is when I race motorbikes.
-mykr.
I think I'll be wearing a neck collar for navvie duties. Less scrambling of my brain so I can read better... :p
I used a neck brace when I went karting a few weeks ago and that totally helped me out. My neck wasn't all sore like it is when I race motorbikes.
-mykr.
| NotAnRS | 11-21-2003 12:59 PM |
I don't know where the 'neck collar can increase injuries' thing is coming from. I'd want to read some tech on that.
The opening on the collar should be at the [I]back[/I] , as I've been told. It is also only effective with a full face helmet. It's designed for the helmet to come down and contact it on a frontal impact.
I have the following equipment which I use for track days and hillclimbs:
G-Force gloves (ok)
Momo balaclava (good)
G-Force suit (ok, not exceptional, and they seem to wear out pretty quickly)
M&R arm restraints
no-name socks
RJS shoes (seem nice for the price)
Bell open face helmet (bought before I knew open face helmets are a dumb idea)
I also have G-force belts in the car, which have Sabelt hardware and seem good quality.
The opening on the collar should be at the [I]back[/I] , as I've been told. It is also only effective with a full face helmet. It's designed for the helmet to come down and contact it on a frontal impact.
I have the following equipment which I use for track days and hillclimbs:
G-Force gloves (ok)
Momo balaclava (good)
G-Force suit (ok, not exceptional, and they seem to wear out pretty quickly)
M&R arm restraints
no-name socks
RJS shoes (seem nice for the price)
Bell open face helmet (bought before I knew open face helmets are a dumb idea)
I also have G-force belts in the car, which have Sabelt hardware and seem good quality.
| Gravelstar | 11-21-2003 01:27 PM |
For rally I HIGHLY recommend a Peltor helmet. They really are superior and make a big difference. It's well worth the cost. Otherwise you'll be like me and buy a Bieffe only to hate it and then pony up the money for a Peltor in the end.
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| travmn | 11-21-2003 08:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mykrrrr[/i]
[B] Would a HANS device even fit "well" in a rally car set up??? I've only ever seen them in more "custom" fit seating arrangements such as F1 or NASCAR. [/B][/QUOTE]
IIRC, Mark Utecht has been using a HANS device and I believe he stated that it doesn't provide any impedence with driving in the rally car. Even I have thought the HANS device wouldn't work well in the rally environment, but Utecht doesn't seem to have any issues with his from what I recall.
[B] Would a HANS device even fit "well" in a rally car set up??? I've only ever seen them in more "custom" fit seating arrangements such as F1 or NASCAR. [/B][/QUOTE]
IIRC, Mark Utecht has been using a HANS device and I believe he stated that it doesn't provide any impedence with driving in the rally car. Even I have thought the HANS device wouldn't work well in the rally environment, but Utecht doesn't seem to have any issues with his from what I recall.
| NotAnRS | 11-21-2003 10:22 PM |
Given enough time, I can find anything. Here is some tech on neck collars. There doesn't seem to be a clear concensus on how they should be worn:
[URL=http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7526&highlight=neck+collar]Neck collars[/URL]
:confused:
[URL=http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7526&highlight=neck+collar]Neck collars[/URL]
:confused:
| RebelINS | 11-21-2003 11:50 PM |
Has anyone tried one of those helmets that has a tether which connects to your suit?
-Wes
-Wes
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