| BlazingEngine | 12-19-2005 02:35 PM |
ALONSO Moving to Mercedes Mclaren after 2007
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What a lineup this will be Kimi, JPM, Alonso, i wonder who will get the 2(3?) seats :), gosh i cant wait. Now i found a reason to hate alonso less for beating kimi, lol.
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| Draken | 12-19-2005 02:37 PM |
hahaha. IB12morethreadsaboutalonsotoday
| TestPilot | 12-19-2005 02:38 PM |
[QUOTE=BlazingEngine]What a lineup this will be Kimi, JPM, Alonso, i wonder who will get the 2(3?) seats :), gosh i cant wait. Now i found a reason to hate alonso less for beating kimi, lol.
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Agh :rolleyes: I think either Juan or Kimi or both will be leaving when "lucky boy" Alonso comes walking through the door!
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Agh :rolleyes: I think either Juan or Kimi or both will be leaving when "lucky boy" Alonso comes walking through the door!
| endeavor | 12-19-2005 02:39 PM |
Kimi's and JPM's contracts expire after 2006. Now it is time to resume the Kimi @ Ferrari rumors ;)
| TestPilot | 12-19-2005 02:44 PM |
[QUOTE=endeavor]Kimi's and JPM's contracts expire after 2006. Now it is time to resume the Kimi @ Ferrari rumors ;)[/QUOTE]
Here's an even better rumor : Valetine Rossi racing for Ferrari. He could be the second man on earth to win the world championship on both bike and GP car.
Who was the first you ask?
John Sertes on an MV Augusta :lol:
Here's an even better rumor : Valetine Rossi racing for Ferrari. He could be the second man on earth to win the world championship on both bike and GP car.
Who was the first you ask?
John Sertes on an MV Augusta :lol:
| byoung | 12-19-2005 02:51 PM |
I believe that is Surtees.
| StuBeck | 12-19-2005 02:57 PM |
Alonso is moving to Vodofone McLaren Mercedes after 2006 to be perfectly correct.
| MattDell | 12-19-2005 02:59 PM |
Any particular reason for the move? Not successful enough at Renault? :huh:
| StuBeck | 12-19-2005 04:14 PM |
Wanted a new challenge. Might have also wanted out of his contract with Flavio. He also knew for most of the season he didn't have the fastest car, that it was only the MP4/20 sucking ass the first part of the season which got him the championship.
| MattDell | 12-19-2005 04:28 PM |
As long as he doesn't switch for the money. It really irks me when athletes switch around to different teams for a "few extra million" here and there. It's like they have no dedication left to the sport. :o
| BlazingEngine | 12-19-2005 08:46 PM |
[QUOTE=MattDell]As long as he doesn't switch for the money. It really irks me when athletes switch around to different teams for a "few extra million" here and there. It's like they have no dedication left to the sport. :o[/QUOTE]
+1 million.
I personally, would go kimi and alonso for both seats, and JPM, well, i love JPM but iono bout his future. And personally, i wouldnt want kimi at ferrari, i just think it is wierd with him not on a german backed team, just so used to it.
+1 million.
I personally, would go kimi and alonso for both seats, and JPM, well, i love JPM but iono bout his future. And personally, i wouldnt want kimi at ferrari, i just think it is wierd with him not on a german backed team, just so used to it.
| jetfan2207 | 12-19-2005 08:55 PM |
I never liked these kind of predictions. I mean, so much can happen in 2 seasons that to me, it's silly to say this person is coming to team X and team Y will get that person. McLaren can fall way back, Honda,or BWM can become dominant, who knows?
| NowNudda | 12-19-2005 09:15 PM |
Nobody is thinking about him but the guy to look out for is fellow American Scott Speed... I wil say it now he will be the first American F1 Champion in the History books... give him 3 years if not next year.
| artkevin | 12-19-2005 09:30 PM |
If Scott Speed does become champion I will be very surprised. He is good for sure but he really hasn't blown me away as of yet. Not to mention there is no way that he will have the machine to do it next year. STR is junior team and think they will be happy to come home with points for the most part. If he moves to a "bigger" team in the future he may have a shot but I will have to wait and see. I will be pulling for him without a doubt.
There has been 2 American F1 Champs already.
FORMULA ONE RACING
Formula One champions
Drivers
1950 � Guiseppe Farina, Italy, Alfa Romeo
1951 � Juan Manel Fangio, Argentina, Alfa Romeo
1952 � Alberto Ascari, Italy, Ferrari
1953 � Alberto Ascari, Italy, Ferrari
1954 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Maserati
1955 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Lancia-Ferrari
1956 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Mercedes-Benz
1957 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Maserati-Mercedes
1958 � Mike Hawthorn, Britain, Ferrari
1959 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Cooper-Climax
1960 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Cooper-Climax
1961 � Phil Hill, [COLOR=Red]United States[/COLOR], Ferrari
1962 � Graham Hill, Britain, BRM
1963 � Jim Clark, Britain, Lotus-Climax
1964 � John Surtees, Britain, Ferrari
1965 � Jim Clark, Britain, Lotus-Climax
1966 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Brabham-Repco
1967 � Denny Hulme, New Zealand, Brabham-Repco
1968 � Graham Hill, Britain, Lotus-Ford
1969 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Matra-Ford
1970 � Jochen Rindt, Austria, Lotus-Ford
1971 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Tyrrell-Ford
1972 � Emerson Fittipaldi, Brazi, Lotus-Ford
1973 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Tyrrell-Ford
1974 � Emerson Fittipaldi, Brazil, McLaren-Ford
1975 � Niki Lauda, Austria, Ferrari
1976 � James Hunt, Britain, McLaren-Ford
1977 � Niki Lauda, Austria, Ferrari
1978 � Mario Andretti, [COLOR=Red]United States[/COLOR], Lotus-Ford
1979 � Jody Scheckter, South Africa, Ferrari
1980 � Alan Jones, Australia, Williams-Ford
1981 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Brabham-Ford
1982 � Keke Rosberg, Finland, Williams-Ford
1983 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Brabham-BMW
1984 � Niki Lauda, Austria, McLaren-TAG
1985 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-TAG
1986 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-TAG
1987 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Williams-Honda
1988 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1989 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-Honda
1990 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1991 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1992 � Nigel Mansel, England, Williams-Renault
1993 � Alain Prost, France, Williams-Renault
1994 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-Ford
1995 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-Renault
1996 � Damon Hill, Britain, Williams-Renault
1997 � Jacques Villeneuve, Canada, Williams-Renault
1998 � Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren-Mercedes
1999 � Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren-Mercedes
2000 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Ferrari
There has been 2 American F1 Champs already.
FORMULA ONE RACING
Formula One champions
Drivers
1950 � Guiseppe Farina, Italy, Alfa Romeo
1951 � Juan Manel Fangio, Argentina, Alfa Romeo
1952 � Alberto Ascari, Italy, Ferrari
1953 � Alberto Ascari, Italy, Ferrari
1954 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Maserati
1955 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Lancia-Ferrari
1956 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Mercedes-Benz
1957 � Juan Manuel Fangio, Argentina, Maserati-Mercedes
1958 � Mike Hawthorn, Britain, Ferrari
1959 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Cooper-Climax
1960 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Cooper-Climax
1961 � Phil Hill, [COLOR=Red]United States[/COLOR], Ferrari
1962 � Graham Hill, Britain, BRM
1963 � Jim Clark, Britain, Lotus-Climax
1964 � John Surtees, Britain, Ferrari
1965 � Jim Clark, Britain, Lotus-Climax
1966 � Jack Brabham, Australia, Brabham-Repco
1967 � Denny Hulme, New Zealand, Brabham-Repco
1968 � Graham Hill, Britain, Lotus-Ford
1969 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Matra-Ford
1970 � Jochen Rindt, Austria, Lotus-Ford
1971 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Tyrrell-Ford
1972 � Emerson Fittipaldi, Brazi, Lotus-Ford
1973 � Jackie Stewart, Scotland, Tyrrell-Ford
1974 � Emerson Fittipaldi, Brazil, McLaren-Ford
1975 � Niki Lauda, Austria, Ferrari
1976 � James Hunt, Britain, McLaren-Ford
1977 � Niki Lauda, Austria, Ferrari
1978 � Mario Andretti, [COLOR=Red]United States[/COLOR], Lotus-Ford
1979 � Jody Scheckter, South Africa, Ferrari
1980 � Alan Jones, Australia, Williams-Ford
1981 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Brabham-Ford
1982 � Keke Rosberg, Finland, Williams-Ford
1983 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Brabham-BMW
1984 � Niki Lauda, Austria, McLaren-TAG
1985 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-TAG
1986 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-TAG
1987 � Nelson Piquet, Brazil, Williams-Honda
1988 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1989 � Alain Prost, France, McLaren-Honda
1990 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1991 � Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Honda
1992 � Nigel Mansel, England, Williams-Renault
1993 � Alain Prost, France, Williams-Renault
1994 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-Ford
1995 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-Renault
1996 � Damon Hill, Britain, Williams-Renault
1997 � Jacques Villeneuve, Canada, Williams-Renault
1998 � Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren-Mercedes
1999 � Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren-Mercedes
2000 � Michael Schumacher, Germany, Ferrari
| solo2wrx | 12-19-2005 10:37 PM |
Mario Andretti is Italian. :confused: Unless I am missing something.
| Ferg | 12-19-2005 10:44 PM |
[QUOTE=solo2wrx]Mario Andretti is Italian. :confused: Unless I am missing something.[/QUOTE]
Born in Italy but raised in Nazareth Pennsylvania.
Mario's first win came on a dirt track, he's about as American a driver as they come.
:)
Born in Italy but raised in Nazareth Pennsylvania.
Mario's first win came on a dirt track, he's about as American a driver as they come.
:)
| solo2wrx | 12-19-2005 10:52 PM |
I know where he was raised. I used to live within 2 hours of there and I met his grandson racing karts several years back in NY. But I could have sworn he was considered an Italian driver. Guess I am proven wrong. Oh well there are worse things to be wrong about.
| TestPilot | 12-20-2005 10:55 AM |
[QUOTE=byoung]I believe that is Surtees.[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected :banana:
I stand corrected :banana:
| StuBeck | 12-20-2005 05:23 PM |
[QUOTE=NowNudda]Nobody is thinking about him but the guy to look out for is fellow American Scott Speed... I wil say it now he will be the first American F1 Champion in the History books... give him 3 years if not next year.[/QUOTE]
No, and he would be the third champion. He'll need to move away from Scuderia Toro Rosso to have any chance at the championship. I will be cheering for him, but he has to impress me a lot more then he has in GP2.
No, and he would be the third champion. He'll need to move away from Scuderia Toro Rosso to have any chance at the championship. I will be cheering for him, but he has to impress me a lot more then he has in GP2.
| ralliharri | 12-20-2005 05:36 PM |
[QUOTE=NowNudda]Nobody is thinking about him but the guy to look out for is fellow American Scott Speed... I wil say it now he will be the first American F1 Champion in the History books... give him 3 years if not next year.[/QUOTE]
Before he becomes a champion Heikki Kovalainen and Nico Rosberg will become champions so in other words, he's fast but not a champion material.
And yeah, Kimi in Ferrari sure seems more likely and Jean Todt would love a Finn in his car, after all his (Todts) years in rallying he knows he needs a Finn to win :banana:
Before he becomes a champion Heikki Kovalainen and Nico Rosberg will become champions so in other words, he's fast but not a champion material.
And yeah, Kimi in Ferrari sure seems more likely and Jean Todt would love a Finn in his car, after all his (Todts) years in rallying he knows he needs a Finn to win :banana:
| nKoan | 12-20-2005 06:11 PM |
[QUOTE=solo2wrx]I know where he was raised. I used to live within 2 hours of there and I met his grandson racing karts several years back in NY. But I could have sworn he was considered an Italian driver. Guess I am proven wrong. Oh well there are worse things to be wrong about.[/QUOTE]
Nah, he's as about as American of a driver as you can get. Indy cars, dirt track, everything else with a gas pedal.
I actually thought he was even born in America, shows you what I know. But he's so tied in to american racing, that I doubt he would claim anything else.
Nah, he's as about as American of a driver as you can get. Indy cars, dirt track, everything else with a gas pedal.
I actually thought he was even born in America, shows you what I know. But he's so tied in to american racing, that I doubt he would claim anything else.
| nKoan | 12-20-2005 06:12 PM |
[QUOTE=ralliharri]Before he becomes a champion Heikki Kovalainen and Nico Rosberg will become champions so in other words, he's fast but not a champion material.
And yeah, Kimi in Ferrari sure seems more likely and Jean Todt would love a Finn in his car, after all his (Todts) years in rallying he knows he needs a Finn to win :banana:[/QUOTE]
Whats that quote... "To finish first, you must first be Finnish"
And yeah, Kimi in Ferrari sure seems more likely and Jean Todt would love a Finn in his car, after all his (Todts) years in rallying he knows he needs a Finn to win :banana:[/QUOTE]
Whats that quote... "To finish first, you must first be Finnish"
| meebs | 12-20-2005 08:56 PM |
How about a Schumacher and Montoya swap? Two latin-speaking drivers at Ferrari, and Schumi in his farewell with a somewhat German team...?
McLaren = Kimi + Schumi
Ferrari = Montoya + Massa
McLaren = Kimi + Schumi
Ferrari = Montoya + Massa
| StuBeck | 12-20-2005 09:47 PM |
I think Schumi might be out in 07, especially if Ferrari is crap this year too. I don't think McLaren wants to have two new drivers in 07.
| artkevin | 12-21-2005 09:25 AM |
I would personally love to see a Rossi/Montoya at Ferrari meebs.
| gargleblaster | 12-21-2005 04:34 PM |
[QUOTE=MattDell]Any particular reason for the move? Not successful enough at Renault? :huh:[/QUOTE]Now that the ship at Nissan is mostly righted, CEO Carlos Ghosn is looking to cut costs elsewhere in the empire. Although Renault seems to think that having the double crowns for 2005 will help sales, many have speculated that the F1 budget will be slashed to the point of forcing Renault to withdraw rather quickly. Probably a good hedge on Alonso's part. Let's just hope he has better luck on the tennis courts than JPM. ;)
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