| TimStevens | 07-26-2002 07:14 AM |
Bye bye Mika Hakkinen
It's official... he's not coming back next year. No big surprise, just kinda sad to see him go without any fanfare whatsoever.
So there's your morning news update :p
-tim
So there's your morning news update :p
-tim
| tonytiger | 07-26-2002 07:19 AM |
Was just writing a topic about the same sad issue :(
No fun, fun fun no.
Actually he had told his desires about not coming back at the Monaco GP to Dennis this year.
He was the real star.
This ruined my day, I'll go fishing...
tony
No fun, fun fun no.
Actually he had told his desires about not coming back at the Monaco GP to Dennis this year.
He was the real star.
This ruined my day, I'll go fishing...
tony
| STORER | 07-26-2002 09:11 AM |
Wow! I can't believe that.:( What's the reason? Was his contract up and they didn't renew it or is it his choice?
Steve
Steve
| TimStevens | 07-26-2002 09:18 AM |
No idea... just seemed like he was done with racing. *Shrug* Could also be that Ron Dennis couldn't decide who to scrap, Kimi or DC... *shrug again*
-tim
-tim
| Arioch | 07-26-2002 09:59 AM |
while i always wanted him to come back (more competition for michael is always a good thing) i didn't every really think he [i]would[/i] come back.
sad day... lets hope that mclaren can pull something out of the bag for next season without him.
but it did have to make ron's decision easier.
-dave
sad day... lets hope that mclaren can pull something out of the bag for next season without him.
but it did have to make ron's decision easier.
-dave
| OnTheGas | 07-26-2002 10:58 AM |
Why Mika Has Retired
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STORER [/i]
[B]What's the reason? Was his contract up and they didn't renew it or is it his choice?[/B][/QUOTE]It was Mika's choice... he wanted to stay home and be with his family instead of racing... He announced in a classy way, via a pre-recorded videotape recorded at his lakeside summer home w/his wife and son running around in the background. He wanted to do it that way, so that folks could see how happy he is to be retired.
AtlasF1.com has a good write up on the video, which was shown to the press in the McLaren media center. Here is a reuters story on the announcement...
[url]http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/020726/80/d622x.html[/url]
It is too bad, as we all know that he can run w/Michael, and earned his 2 WD championships well... he was missed this season...
[B]What's the reason? Was his contract up and they didn't renew it or is it his choice?[/B][/QUOTE]It was Mika's choice... he wanted to stay home and be with his family instead of racing... He announced in a classy way, via a pre-recorded videotape recorded at his lakeside summer home w/his wife and son running around in the background. He wanted to do it that way, so that folks could see how happy he is to be retired.
AtlasF1.com has a good write up on the video, which was shown to the press in the McLaren media center. Here is a reuters story on the announcement...
[url]http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/020726/80/d622x.html[/url]
It is too bad, as we all know that he can run w/Michael, and earned his 2 WD championships well... he was missed this season...
| WHTWRX | 07-26-2002 11:05 AM |
The wife said he couldn't play with toy cars anymore, it's time to get a minivan and change diapers.
| HoRo1 | 07-26-2002 12:03 PM |
In case you cared...
Mika
162 starts
102 finishes
20 wins, 12%
26 poles, 16%
25 fastest laps, 15%
51 podiums, 30%
Michael
172 starts
130 finishes
61 wins, 35%
46 poles, 27%
47 fastest laps, 27%
108 podiums, 62%
162 starts
102 finishes
20 wins, 12%
26 poles, 16%
25 fastest laps, 15%
51 podiums, 30%
Michael
172 starts
130 finishes
61 wins, 35%
46 poles, 27%
47 fastest laps, 27%
108 podiums, 62%
| Adrift | 07-26-2002 12:40 PM |
Re: In case you cared...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HoRo1 [/i]
[B]Mika
162 starts
102 finishes
20 wins, 12%
26 poles, 16%
25 fastest laps, 15%
51 podiums, 30%
Michael
172 starts
130 finishes
61 wins, 35%
46 poles, 27%
47 fastest laps, 27%
108 podiums, 62% [/B][/QUOTE]
Finally! Some statitstics we can really compare since the drivers raced during the same time period.
It always seemed to me that the winning just came easier to Michael. I can't put my finger on it, but Mika just seemed like he had to work A LOT harder to pull off a win.
[B]Mika
162 starts
102 finishes
20 wins, 12%
26 poles, 16%
25 fastest laps, 15%
51 podiums, 30%
Michael
172 starts
130 finishes
61 wins, 35%
46 poles, 27%
47 fastest laps, 27%
108 podiums, 62% [/B][/QUOTE]
Finally! Some statitstics we can really compare since the drivers raced during the same time period.
It always seemed to me that the winning just came easier to Michael. I can't put my finger on it, but Mika just seemed like he had to work A LOT harder to pull off a win.
| TimStevens | 07-26-2002 12:42 PM |
Re: Re: In case you cared...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Adrift [/i]
[B]
It always seemed to me that the winning just came easier to Michael. I can't put my finger on it, but Mika just seemed like he had to work A LOT harder to pull off a win. [/B][/QUOTE]
Couldn't possibly be that Schumacher had a better car and a team with a much bigger budget, could it? ;)
-tim
[B]
It always seemed to me that the winning just came easier to Michael. I can't put my finger on it, but Mika just seemed like he had to work A LOT harder to pull off a win. [/B][/QUOTE]
Couldn't possibly be that Schumacher had a better car and a team with a much bigger budget, could it? ;)
-tim
| HoRo1 | 07-26-2002 02:44 PM |
TimStevens
Well, yes and no.
It's no secret that Ferrari has, for most of F1's history, been the team with the biggest budget and their record has been surprisingly poor for long periods. So money is not a guarantee of success.
During his early F1 days, Hakkinen drove for Lotus which was definately in decline. He was then picked up by McLaren where he drove for 9 seasons. At that time, as today, the big 3 in F1 were Williams, McLaren and Ferrari - most money, best engineers etc. For a time in the mid 90s Benetton challenged the established order, but ONLY when Schumacher drove for them and Jean Todt was team manager. Prior to driving for Benetton, Schumacher had one start for Jordan. Since Benetton he has driven only for Ferrari.
Given that Hakkinen and Schumacher drove at the same time, and for the majority of their careers for teams with the largest budgets, backed by some of the best engineers in the world, I think it is quite fair to say that Schumacher has shown himself to the superior driver.
Well, yes and no.
It's no secret that Ferrari has, for most of F1's history, been the team with the biggest budget and their record has been surprisingly poor for long periods. So money is not a guarantee of success.
During his early F1 days, Hakkinen drove for Lotus which was definately in decline. He was then picked up by McLaren where he drove for 9 seasons. At that time, as today, the big 3 in F1 were Williams, McLaren and Ferrari - most money, best engineers etc. For a time in the mid 90s Benetton challenged the established order, but ONLY when Schumacher drove for them and Jean Todt was team manager. Prior to driving for Benetton, Schumacher had one start for Jordan. Since Benetton he has driven only for Ferrari.
Given that Hakkinen and Schumacher drove at the same time, and for the majority of their careers for teams with the largest budgets, backed by some of the best engineers in the world, I think it is quite fair to say that Schumacher has shown himself to the superior driver.
| TimStevens | 07-26-2002 02:52 PM |
Thanks for the history lesson, but I've been an F1 fan since '90 and saw them both go up through the ranks :)
No doubt Schumacher is the superior driver, but I don't think the two were on even footing when it came to hardware. I would have loved to see them both on the same team, but then team orders probably would have screwed up the results :rolleyes:
-tim
No doubt Schumacher is the superior driver, but I don't think the two were on even footing when it came to hardware. I would have loved to see them both on the same team, but then team orders probably would have screwed up the results :rolleyes:
-tim
| WRSport | 07-26-2002 05:36 PM |
:rolleyes: ummm Yeah Mclarens budget was so small .... LOL
| TimStevens | 07-26-2002 07:36 PM |
Not small by any means, but smaller than Ferrari's!
| tonytiger | 07-26-2002 07:38 PM |
Mika is a better driver than that German dude.
The year 2001 season when messes the statistics really well. Mika's silver arrow if I remember correctly broke 10 times at the season - the season of traction control. Someone check this up.
The finishing percent on the other hand tells similar:
Schumacher finished 76% while Mika 63%. Mika hardly ever made mistakes!!
Statistics of this year of the German dude:
One pass of Montoya which was at the same lap 4 seconds slower than the Ferraris. The rest of his racing time just boring - think he had passed Kimi without the McNish's oil ruin the last laps at France?
Rubens would go faster if he wasn't the pilot of test parts - no arguing about that.
tony
Edited the year 2000 to the correct year, last season, 2001.
The year 2001 season when messes the statistics really well. Mika's silver arrow if I remember correctly broke 10 times at the season - the season of traction control. Someone check this up.
The finishing percent on the other hand tells similar:
Schumacher finished 76% while Mika 63%. Mika hardly ever made mistakes!!
Statistics of this year of the German dude:
One pass of Montoya which was at the same lap 4 seconds slower than the Ferraris. The rest of his racing time just boring - think he had passed Kimi without the McNish's oil ruin the last laps at France?
Rubens would go faster if he wasn't the pilot of test parts - no arguing about that.
tony
Edited the year 2000 to the correct year, last season, 2001.
| johnfelstead | 07-26-2002 07:46 PM |
The early McLaren Mika drove was a pile of crap, as was the Lotus. In his first race for McLaren with Senna as his team mate when he replaced the completely useless Andretti he outqualified Senna and helped to wake that team up, and to an extent Senna too.
Congratulations to Mika, he has retired from the sport with his integrity intact and the majority of his health.
I think people have forgoten how close Mika came to death when he crashed in Australia, he never looked the same after that shunt, his face was always slightly out of balance due to his head injuries.
It was obvious to the majority of people that Mika had retired for good, he couldnt do it last year oficially due to contractual reasons. Good luck to Mika for the future, he was and is a class act! :)
Congratulations to Mika, he has retired from the sport with his integrity intact and the majority of his health.
I think people have forgoten how close Mika came to death when he crashed in Australia, he never looked the same after that shunt, his face was always slightly out of balance due to his head injuries.
It was obvious to the majority of people that Mika had retired for good, he couldnt do it last year oficially due to contractual reasons. Good luck to Mika for the future, he was and is a class act! :)
| scoobdo | 07-26-2002 07:50 PM |
and lets not forget Schumacher gets 'handed' a few victories aswell from his old and present 'team' members!
racing at its best :mad:
racing at its best :mad:
| OAKOS Automotive | 07-26-2002 08:47 PM |
[QUOTE][B]What's the reason? Was his contract up and they didn't renew it or is it his choice?[/B][/QUOTE]
I believe there is one main reason for his decision: Hugo his son. Since he was born Mika didn't seem to have the same drive.
I'm so glad that I had a chance to see him win a race ('01 USGP). :)
-Dave Kearney
I believe there is one main reason for his decision: Hugo his son. Since he was born Mika didn't seem to have the same drive.
I'm so glad that I had a chance to see him win a race ('01 USGP). :)
-Dave Kearney
| OnTheGas | 07-26-2002 11:09 PM |
RE: HoRo1's Unfamiliarity W/Hakkinen's Talents
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HoRo1 [/i]
[B]Given that Hakkinen and Schumacher drove at the same time, and for the majority of their careers for teams with the largest budgets, backed by some of the best engineers in the world, I think it is quite fair to say that Schumacher has shown himself to the superior driver. [/B][/QUOTE]I know others have pointed out the fallacy of your opinion, HoRo1, but I thought I'd add specifics on the competitiveness of Mika's rides.[list][*]1991 & 92 he drove a Lotus... nuff said.[*]1993 - Was the back-up driver for Senna and Andretti... Andretti's last race for McLaren-Ford was Monza. The next race was Mika's debut w/the team, where he [url=http://www.forix.com/asp/gp.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=9314&c=3]out-qualified[/url] Senna. He spun off on lap 32 while fighting Alesi for 3rd. Not a bad debut.
He then drove a wet race at Suzuka and earned his first podium, having also qualified 3rd. An excellent debut![*]1994 - The year of the McLaren-Peugot, a dog of an engine which liked to blow up and catch on fire... and helped the team to finish 4th in the constructors championship. The team finished eighth in total number of race laps completed that year.
Nonetheless, Mika was able to stick this dog on to the front row during qualifying for the Monaco GP, had six points finishes, all of which were podiums, including 2nd at Spa, and out-qualified and out-performed his team-mate Martin Brundle at every race.[*]1995 McLaren-Mercedes - The first year of mercedes' return to F1. The team finished 4th again in the championship... they earned a grand total of 30 points vs the 73 points earned by the 3rd place team Ferrari. The once mighty McLaren team finished 9th in number of race laps completed, and the team had only one retirement due to a crash!
Nonetheless, Mika finished 7th in the drivers championship, which was best of the rest as the top 6 all drove for Ferrari, Williams and Benetton. Mika out-performed and out-qualified his team-mates Nigel Mansell and Mark Blundell at every single race, w/the single exception of Blundell out-qualifying him at Estoril (ironic!), although Mika passed him for postition early in the race.
Mika was able to get [url=http://www.galeforcef1.com/f1/95/driver.html#HAKK]six finishes[/url], of which 4 were for points, and 2 were for 2nd place.
He did not start the last race of the season, OZ GP @ Adelaide, as he was very nearly killed during Friday qualifying when a tire was cut and he lost control at a very high speed corner and went straight through a small tire barrier and into a cement wall. [*]1996 McLaren-Mercedes - The team finished 4th in the constructors championship, 49 points vs 68 points for Benetton-Renault. Mika finished 5th in the drivers championship, 31 points vs 47 points earned by Alesi in 4th.
Mika's team-mate was a young Coulthard. Mika was able out qualify him 12 of 16 races, and David got the better of Mika on race day only 5 of 16 races... Nonetheless, not Mika's best year, but perhaps attributable to the serious brain injury from which he was recuperating...[*]1997 McLaren-Mercedes - Finished 4th in the constructors championship, 63 points vs 67 of Benetton-Renault. But this was the lost year or the turn around year for Mika, depending upon one's view point. Mika finished a lowly 6th in the championship with 27 points vs his team-mate Coulthard who finished 3rd in the championship w/36 points. However, it was the turn-around year, for at the last race of the season, he won his 1st F1 race ever.[*]1998 McLaren-Mercedes - The team won the constructors, 156 points vs 133 for Ferrari. Mika won the drivers, 100 points vs 86 for Michael. David scored 56 points for 3rd in the championship, vs 47 points for Irvine. The drivers championship was very tight during the season, but Mika displayed an icy calmness under pressure which allowed him to battle Michael on the track very well. Psychologically, Mika was never intimidated, and he was strong.[*]1999 McLaren-Mercedes - The team lost the constructors championship, 124 points, vs 128 for Ferrari. Nonetheless, Mika won the drivers championship by 2 points, again displaying a determination, calmness, and competitiveness that will remain forever his hall-mark.[*]2000 McLaren-Mercedes - The team finished 2nd in the constructors championship, 152 points vs 170 for Ferrari. Mika lost the drivers championship to Michael, 89 points vs 109 for Michael. Perhaps the turning point of the drivers and constructors championship happened 3 three races from the end, at the inaugural Indy US GP where Mika was gaining on Michael by a second a lap after the final pit-stops, when his motor grenaded... At a second a lap, it is possible to overtake at Indy thanks to the long front straight. Michael went on to win the race, and the championships.[*]2001 Is the season that Mika told Ron Dennis at the Monaco GP that he wanted to retire. After working out a plan to take a sabbatical, it lifted a large burden from his shoulders. He only seemed to rise to the fight for two races, (he confirmed this in comments recently), the British GP at Silverstone which he won, and the US GP at Indy, which he also won.[/list]Mika will always be remembered for just barely surviving a horrible crash at Adelaide in 1995, outqualifying his team-mate Senna in his first start for McLaren at Estoril in 1994, and the calm, cool, yet very determined and quick nature of his driving style under pressure. He is a great driver.
[B]Given that Hakkinen and Schumacher drove at the same time, and for the majority of their careers for teams with the largest budgets, backed by some of the best engineers in the world, I think it is quite fair to say that Schumacher has shown himself to the superior driver. [/B][/QUOTE]I know others have pointed out the fallacy of your opinion, HoRo1, but I thought I'd add specifics on the competitiveness of Mika's rides.[list][*]1991 & 92 he drove a Lotus... nuff said.[*]1993 - Was the back-up driver for Senna and Andretti... Andretti's last race for McLaren-Ford was Monza. The next race was Mika's debut w/the team, where he [url=http://www.forix.com/asp/gp.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=9314&c=3]out-qualified[/url] Senna. He spun off on lap 32 while fighting Alesi for 3rd. Not a bad debut.
He then drove a wet race at Suzuka and earned his first podium, having also qualified 3rd. An excellent debut![*]1994 - The year of the McLaren-Peugot, a dog of an engine which liked to blow up and catch on fire... and helped the team to finish 4th in the constructors championship. The team finished eighth in total number of race laps completed that year.
Nonetheless, Mika was able to stick this dog on to the front row during qualifying for the Monaco GP, had six points finishes, all of which were podiums, including 2nd at Spa, and out-qualified and out-performed his team-mate Martin Brundle at every race.[*]1995 McLaren-Mercedes - The first year of mercedes' return to F1. The team finished 4th again in the championship... they earned a grand total of 30 points vs the 73 points earned by the 3rd place team Ferrari. The once mighty McLaren team finished 9th in number of race laps completed, and the team had only one retirement due to a crash!
Nonetheless, Mika finished 7th in the drivers championship, which was best of the rest as the top 6 all drove for Ferrari, Williams and Benetton. Mika out-performed and out-qualified his team-mates Nigel Mansell and Mark Blundell at every single race, w/the single exception of Blundell out-qualifying him at Estoril (ironic!), although Mika passed him for postition early in the race.
Mika was able to get [url=http://www.galeforcef1.com/f1/95/driver.html#HAKK]six finishes[/url], of which 4 were for points, and 2 were for 2nd place.
He did not start the last race of the season, OZ GP @ Adelaide, as he was very nearly killed during Friday qualifying when a tire was cut and he lost control at a very high speed corner and went straight through a small tire barrier and into a cement wall. [*]1996 McLaren-Mercedes - The team finished 4th in the constructors championship, 49 points vs 68 points for Benetton-Renault. Mika finished 5th in the drivers championship, 31 points vs 47 points earned by Alesi in 4th.
Mika's team-mate was a young Coulthard. Mika was able out qualify him 12 of 16 races, and David got the better of Mika on race day only 5 of 16 races... Nonetheless, not Mika's best year, but perhaps attributable to the serious brain injury from which he was recuperating...[*]1997 McLaren-Mercedes - Finished 4th in the constructors championship, 63 points vs 67 of Benetton-Renault. But this was the lost year or the turn around year for Mika, depending upon one's view point. Mika finished a lowly 6th in the championship with 27 points vs his team-mate Coulthard who finished 3rd in the championship w/36 points. However, it was the turn-around year, for at the last race of the season, he won his 1st F1 race ever.[*]1998 McLaren-Mercedes - The team won the constructors, 156 points vs 133 for Ferrari. Mika won the drivers, 100 points vs 86 for Michael. David scored 56 points for 3rd in the championship, vs 47 points for Irvine. The drivers championship was very tight during the season, but Mika displayed an icy calmness under pressure which allowed him to battle Michael on the track very well. Psychologically, Mika was never intimidated, and he was strong.[*]1999 McLaren-Mercedes - The team lost the constructors championship, 124 points, vs 128 for Ferrari. Nonetheless, Mika won the drivers championship by 2 points, again displaying a determination, calmness, and competitiveness that will remain forever his hall-mark.[*]2000 McLaren-Mercedes - The team finished 2nd in the constructors championship, 152 points vs 170 for Ferrari. Mika lost the drivers championship to Michael, 89 points vs 109 for Michael. Perhaps the turning point of the drivers and constructors championship happened 3 three races from the end, at the inaugural Indy US GP where Mika was gaining on Michael by a second a lap after the final pit-stops, when his motor grenaded... At a second a lap, it is possible to overtake at Indy thanks to the long front straight. Michael went on to win the race, and the championships.[*]2001 Is the season that Mika told Ron Dennis at the Monaco GP that he wanted to retire. After working out a plan to take a sabbatical, it lifted a large burden from his shoulders. He only seemed to rise to the fight for two races, (he confirmed this in comments recently), the British GP at Silverstone which he won, and the US GP at Indy, which he also won.[/list]Mika will always be remembered for just barely surviving a horrible crash at Adelaide in 1995, outqualifying his team-mate Senna in his first start for McLaren at Estoril in 1994, and the calm, cool, yet very determined and quick nature of his driving style under pressure. He is a great driver.
| FUNKED1 | 07-26-2002 11:11 PM |
Yep he will be missed.
Schumacher has a better record but Häkkinen never had a car as good as the one Schumacher has driven the last 3 seasons.
Schumacher has a better record but Häkkinen never had a car as good as the one Schumacher has driven the last 3 seasons.
| tonytiger | 07-27-2002 05:20 AM |
Thank you OnTheGas.
Thank you Mika!
Thank you Mika!
| US2JDM | 07-27-2002 06:19 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by FUNKED1 [/i]
[B]Yep he will be missed.
Schumacher has a better record but Häkkinen never had a car as good as the one Schumacher has driven the last 3 seasons. [/B][/QUOTE]
True dat! Häkkinen would've been such awesome competition for Schuey on a more even platform hardware-wise.
Mika Häkkinen rules! Hopefully Kimi will follow the footsteps of his countryman. Speaking of Finns...what's Tommi been up to lately? :D
-Milan
[B]Yep he will be missed.
Schumacher has a better record but Häkkinen never had a car as good as the one Schumacher has driven the last 3 seasons. [/B][/QUOTE]
True dat! Häkkinen would've been such awesome competition for Schuey on a more even platform hardware-wise.
Mika Häkkinen rules! Hopefully Kimi will follow the footsteps of his countryman. Speaking of Finns...what's Tommi been up to lately? :D
-Milan
| HoRo1 | 07-27-2002 06:32 AM |
I agree that Hakkinen is superior to Brundle, Blundell, Andretti and Coulthard. He may even be better than Mansell. I'll cut him some slack, more than the Schumacher bashers will cut Michael, and ignore Mika's first 4 years in F1 while he was learning his craft. So, I'll drop his first 50 starts (36% of his F1 experience) from his record. That leaves 112 starts and 20 wins, about 18%. I won't frighten you by telling you what Schumacher's record looks like if we do the same thing.
OK, I will. He is left with 120 starts and 51 wins, about 42%.
I just find it hard to argue with the numbers.
OK, I will. He is left with 120 starts and 51 wins, about 42%.
I just find it hard to argue with the numbers.
| gary p | 07-27-2002 11:23 AM |
Shuey's the best, no question. But Mika was a damn fine driver who rarely gets the props he deservers as a 2x World Champion. I'm happy he retired with his health and his pride intact.
God bless you Mika, you'll be missed!
God bless you Mika, you'll be missed!
| meebs | 07-27-2002 12:22 PM |
He will be missed... one of the few "real" people in F1...
I will miss his post race interviews the most though. :) Glad I have his championship seasons still on tape. :D
I will miss his post race interviews the most though. :) Glad I have his championship seasons still on tape. :D
| StuBeck | 07-27-2002 05:16 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by tonytiger [/i]
[B]Mika is a better driver than that German dude.
The year 2000 season when messes the statistics really well. Mika's silver arrow if I remember correctly broke 10 times at the season - the season of traction control. Someone check this up.
The finishing percent on the other hand tells similar:
Schumacher finished 76% while Mika 63%. Mika hardly ever made mistakes!!
[/B][/QUOTE]
The last 13 races of the 2001 season where the ones with traction control. Also, Mika didn't finish 3 races, the first two, and the USGP (he blew his exhaust right in front me!)
In 2001, his car did fail to finish 8 times, in Monaco he did basically leave for no reason though (the race he evidently decided to retire, not sure if it was before or after the race.) All his other retirements were basically for gearbox or engine problems.
His dry humor will be missed, though I wonder how good he would be if he returned after missing a season.
[B]Mika is a better driver than that German dude.
The year 2000 season when messes the statistics really well. Mika's silver arrow if I remember correctly broke 10 times at the season - the season of traction control. Someone check this up.
The finishing percent on the other hand tells similar:
Schumacher finished 76% while Mika 63%. Mika hardly ever made mistakes!!
[/B][/QUOTE]
The last 13 races of the 2001 season where the ones with traction control. Also, Mika didn't finish 3 races, the first two, and the USGP (he blew his exhaust right in front me!)
In 2001, his car did fail to finish 8 times, in Monaco he did basically leave for no reason though (the race he evidently decided to retire, not sure if it was before or after the race.) All his other retirements were basically for gearbox or engine problems.
His dry humor will be missed, though I wonder how good he would be if he returned after missing a season.
| tonytiger | 07-27-2002 05:34 PM |
My mistake. Of course I ment the previous season year 2001. I'm living on a wrong year :)
I'll edit it up correctly, thanks for noticing.
tony
I'll edit it up correctly, thanks for noticing.
tony
| Thug | 07-27-2002 11:10 PM |
The numers really do show it though. Great drivers usually get rides in great cars. Just like great baseball players generally find their way to championship teams.
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