| SWAT | 08-04-2002 02:26 PM |
HID problem --- flashing!?
my eaglite HID sometimes keeps flasing or gone when I am driving. But sometimes becomes normal. Ballst problem or blub? do u know how to fix it
SWAT
SWAT
| Silverscooby27 | 08-04-2002 04:38 PM |
I don't have eaglite, but I had a set of HIDs that did that too. Turns out, it was the bulb, not the ballast. There was a crack in the ceramic(?) piece that covers the metal rod going along the bulb.
| GLwagon | 08-04-2002 05:07 PM |
I'm not positive on automotive HID, but for comercial/industrial use "short cycling" tends to be a lamp I'ld try that first...
| decepticon | 08-04-2002 11:27 PM |
When i did my HID conversion I noticed that the black wire (to the right of the middle plug) on the harness that plugs into the factory harness is the power for the low beam, and the middle one (white) was the ground. Also my kit said i needed to change the fuses from 15amp to 20 amp and my kit works perfectly fine now. If you're sure everything is hooked up correctly i suggest you get a new ballast, because it could be bad, but i doubt both would go bad. I hope this helps.
| SWAT | 08-05-2002 12:11 AM |
my fuse blew once when I installed my HID.. it is related ?
SWAT
SWAT
| decepticon | 08-05-2002 03:48 AM |
Look through the instructions to see if it asks you to change the fuses to something higher. Thats the problem i had, my ballasts wern't getting enough power and therefore it would flash or the fuse would blow. Also there should be a trouble shooting page near the end of the instructions and should say what to do about your HID's flashing.
| SWAT | 08-05-2002 04:52 AM |
thank u. but........
The fuse of ballst or the fuse in the car fuse box? howmany A did u put in instead?
SWAT
The fuse of ballst or the fuse in the car fuse box? howmany A did u put in instead?
SWAT
| decepticon | 08-05-2002 05:02 AM |
There are 2 fuses inside the engine bay of the GC8 one for the left headlight and the other for the right. I replaced them both from a 15a fuse to a 20a fuse. Those were the only fuses I replaced, do you have fuses on your ballasts? I don't recommend changing the fuses on the ballasts, only the ones in the fuse box.
| m3eater | 08-05-2002 10:49 AM |
that happened to my hid's three times already. im going on my fourth set. you might have a defected pair and should scheck the bulb itself. if you are getting brown spots on it take it back where you got it and ask for another pair
| SWAT | 08-05-2002 12:30 PM |
thx u guys a lot,
I will try if this works today
SWAT:) :D
I will try if this works today
SWAT:) :D
| spd wgn | 08-05-2002 09:29 PM |
One of the problems is that the electrical requirements of the HID circuits are different than the regular halogens; for example the start-up amps are higher than the ongoing operating amps and there are certain surge voltages caused by switching them on and off
This can lead to the possibility of ciruit failure ( fuses, even switches). I found this site: [url]http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/general-faq.htm[/url]
which explains HID circuits more fully and gives a diagram for a safe wiring setup.
spd wgn
This can lead to the possibility of ciruit failure ( fuses, even switches). I found this site: [url]http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/general-faq.htm[/url]
which explains HID circuits more fully and gives a diagram for a safe wiring setup.
spd wgn
| SWAT | 08-06-2002 12:23 AM |
I have scan through the menu and read the web site all over....
but my kit does not have relay kit and the menu does not mention anything about fuse.. what should I do?
SWAT
but my kit does not have relay kit and the menu does not mention anything about fuse.. what should I do?
SWAT
| Daffy Duck | 08-06-2002 04:11 AM |
Try these steps
1) You must have 20amp fuse on your headlight.
2) Try to swap the bulbs first and see if flickering is still on the same side
3) Get an exchange (while you still have the warranty).
2) Try to swap the bulbs first and see if flickering is still on the same side
3) Get an exchange (while you still have the warranty).
| SWAT | 08-07-2002 09:05 PM |
I have put the 20A fuse into fuse box and tried a few night ride. the flashing still exists.... so I contacted the seller to exhange or repair for me.
thx everyone who gave me advice.
SWAT
thx everyone who gave me advice.
SWAT
| SWAT | 08-29-2002 01:10 PM |
If the ballast can not get enough voltage, how can I fix?
SWAT
SWAT
| Daffy Duck | 08-29-2002 11:40 PM |
Need wiring harness
You need a wiring harness if the ballast does not have enough "juice". The kit should've have come with it unless it's designed not to have one. So far, I think only the McCulloch HID kit don't need wiring harness.
| SWAT | 08-30-2002 04:09 AM |
um.... what is wiring harness? where I can buy it? is it hard to install myself? my HID kit does not come with that.. but I heard that adding reply kit may be able to fix the problem.. is it true?
thx
SWAT
thx
SWAT
| Mulder | 08-30-2002 07:17 AM |
You could have a bad ballast or bulb, but if both sides are doing the same thing this isn't likely.
The factory wiring uses a common power for each side and a switched ground for BOTH sides which means the ground wiring has to carry the current for both headlights through a long run of marginally sized wiring and also through the headlight switch. While this works with the stock-wattage halogen bulbs, there is a significant voltage drop even with those. Add HIDs and the stock wiring is not really adequate to handle the high startup current required for them and the result may be flickering and unreliable turn-on.
If the GC8 wiring is the same as the GDA (I think it is, but need to verify) you can move the negative side of the HIDs from the factory switched ground to a direct ground connection, at battery negative or a good chassis ground. The factory switched power will turn the HIDs on and off with the headlight switch. This arrangement provides a much more reliable source of power for the HIDs, and takes the high-current load off the switch and ground wiring. There is a relay to switch the power so no problem there (again, assuming the wiring is similar GC8/GDA, someone please check/confirm?).
If you make this change it should fix your problem, if it doesn't then there may be something wrong with the HIDs themselves.
You can also rule power problems in or out by measuring the voltage right at the ballasts as you turn the lights on and see if there is a drop, and if the voltage stabilizes once the lights start or fluctuates.
The factory wiring uses a common power for each side and a switched ground for BOTH sides which means the ground wiring has to carry the current for both headlights through a long run of marginally sized wiring and also through the headlight switch. While this works with the stock-wattage halogen bulbs, there is a significant voltage drop even with those. Add HIDs and the stock wiring is not really adequate to handle the high startup current required for them and the result may be flickering and unreliable turn-on.
If the GC8 wiring is the same as the GDA (I think it is, but need to verify) you can move the negative side of the HIDs from the factory switched ground to a direct ground connection, at battery negative or a good chassis ground. The factory switched power will turn the HIDs on and off with the headlight switch. This arrangement provides a much more reliable source of power for the HIDs, and takes the high-current load off the switch and ground wiring. There is a relay to switch the power so no problem there (again, assuming the wiring is similar GC8/GDA, someone please check/confirm?).
If you make this change it should fix your problem, if it doesn't then there may be something wrong with the HIDs themselves.
You can also rule power problems in or out by measuring the voltage right at the ballasts as you turn the lights on and see if there is a drop, and if the voltage stabilizes once the lights start or fluctuates.
| JZ oo7 | 08-30-2002 11:35 PM |
SWAT, if you got the eaglite kit from midnight moose, then i got the same exact kit. i didn't change my fuse or do i have a relay kit. it's been working well for the last 4 months. i didn't get the flickering problems you have. is the wires going into the stock wiring harness loose? cause i think if they are loose, then the headlights can go out. i strap the wires from the HID that goes to the stock headlight harness up well. oh, i sent my ballast back to midnight moose the other day. i think my ballast is dead.
jz
jz
| SWAT | 08-31-2002 02:22 PM |
My HID was working very well from the first 2 months..... nothing wrong. But after that, the flashing problem started on on side. Later on, both side. I am not sure if the problem is from the voltage. But I will try the solution from mulder first. If the problem still exists, I will ask for exhange.
thx everyone
SWAT
thx everyone
SWAT
| SWAT | 09-04-2002 08:12 PM |
adding a relay can fix the flashing problem caused by voltage drops?
SWAT
SWAT
| Mulder | 09-04-2002 09:54 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SWAT [/i]
[B]adding a relay can fix the flashing problem caused by voltage drops?
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well that's one way to do it, since the drop is mostly on the ground side you can add a relay there to transfer the high current load from the wiring and headlight switch to a direct ground connection through the relay contacts. However it's much easier to do what I suggested earlier, just move the negative connection of the ballasts directly to ground and let the switched positive turn the HIDs on and off. Same functionality and you don't need a relay.
[B]adding a relay can fix the flashing problem caused by voltage drops?
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well that's one way to do it, since the drop is mostly on the ground side you can add a relay there to transfer the high current load from the wiring and headlight switch to a direct ground connection through the relay contacts. However it's much easier to do what I suggested earlier, just move the negative connection of the ballasts directly to ground and let the switched positive turn the HIDs on and off. Same functionality and you don't need a relay.
| scaryfastskier | 09-04-2002 10:23 PM |
the same thing was happening to me: What happened was that the little male plugs you put into the stock bulb harness had come loose and were sliding out when i went over bumps. I pushed them in tightly and now all is good.
If thats not clear (I am thinking it is hard to describe) I can try to get some pics, or re-word it.
Grant
If thats not clear (I am thinking it is hard to describe) I can try to get some pics, or re-word it.
Grant
| SWAT | 09-04-2002 11:47 PM |
I repluged and checked all wire many time.... but still......
but canu play post some pic as u describle plz. I hope it may help. thx so much
SWAT
but canu play post some pic as u describle plz. I hope it may help. thx so much
SWAT
| SWAT | 09-04-2002 11:51 PM |
I am not very good at electric circuit, mulder.
can you explain a little more about ur method?
I got the relay kit on my hand now.. I dunno how to install
can you explain a little more about ur method?
I got the relay kit on my hand now.. I dunno how to install
| Mulder | 09-05-2002 07:56 AM |
Sorry, I don't have any pics to help you, but-
Before you get into installing relays, which you may find a bit complicated- just find the negative side of each ballast. Disconnect them from the harness where they are now. Reconnect them to either a good solid chassis ground or directly to battery negative. Leave everything else alone.
Now, see how the lights work. If the HIDs turn on and off with the light switch and don't flash any more then you are done. If they still flash with the direct ground connections then there is probably something wrong with them (ballasts or bulbs) and nothing will help short of replacement.
Just to be sure if there is still a problem after doing this wiring change, you should check the voltage right at the ballast to see if there is still a voltage drop somewhere.
Not being local to you, this is about all I can do to help. If you find this info to be over your head, I suggest asking for assistance in your local area forum. I am sure there will be someone in your immediate area with the proper knowledge that can help you.
Before you get into installing relays, which you may find a bit complicated- just find the negative side of each ballast. Disconnect them from the harness where they are now. Reconnect them to either a good solid chassis ground or directly to battery negative. Leave everything else alone.
Now, see how the lights work. If the HIDs turn on and off with the light switch and don't flash any more then you are done. If they still flash with the direct ground connections then there is probably something wrong with them (ballasts or bulbs) and nothing will help short of replacement.
Just to be sure if there is still a problem after doing this wiring change, you should check the voltage right at the ballast to see if there is still a voltage drop somewhere.
Not being local to you, this is about all I can do to help. If you find this info to be over your head, I suggest asking for assistance in your local area forum. I am sure there will be someone in your immediate area with the proper knowledge that can help you.
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