| Dark | 06-03-2005 09:49 AM |
how do you keep the engine bay clean?
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Let just say anything under the hood is in grey color, the engine area is so dirty that I dont want to opent the hood unless is necessary. Is there a way to clean the engine bay besides houing it?
| dream | 06-03-2005 09:54 AM |
Step 1, open hood
Step 2, spay engine bay with water hose
Step 3, whipe engine bay down with towel
Step 4, close hood
Is it that hard?
Step 2, spay engine bay with water hose
Step 3, whipe engine bay down with towel
Step 4, close hood
Is it that hard?
| WR^2X | 06-03-2005 10:56 AM |
Personally, I have found that mine remains remarkably clean simply by using the search feature. I know, crazy, right?
But seriously... Simple green spray on everything (cover alternator and battery with plastic bags), let soak a few minutes, then spray it off with a hose. Make sure the engine is cool when you do it!
But seriously... Simple green spray on everything (cover alternator and battery with plastic bags), let soak a few minutes, then spray it off with a hose. Make sure the engine is cool when you do it!
| runnah | 06-03-2005 11:04 AM |
[QUOTE=WR^2X] Make sure the engine is cool when you do it![/QUOTE]
Simple Green fumes make you trip balls.
Simple Green fumes make you trip balls.
| JnJassociates | 06-03-2005 11:37 AM |
You can also use 303 Aerospace cleaner which is gentle on plastic and rubber parts. It also will not stain or discolor aluminum...
And it does not have an odor like most other cleaners...
Bryan
And it does not have an odor like most other cleaners...
Bryan
| WR^2X | 06-03-2005 11:51 AM |
[QUOTE=JnJassociates]You can also use 303 Aerospace cleaner which is gentle on plastic and rubber parts. It also will not stain or discolor aluminum...[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, is this not the case with Simple Green? Is it harmful to plastic/rubber and discolors aluminum? I usually clean the bay with Simple Green and the put 303 Protectant on all of the hoses and plastic covers...
| SupaSizeFries | 06-03-2005 12:18 PM |
I've used Simple Green on my engine bay twice without any problems.
| WR^2X | 06-03-2005 12:22 PM |
I have used it many times over the past year (probably 8 times - I like my engine bay to be clean!), and have not noticed any harm to plastic/rubber or discoloration of aluminum, which is why I was curious about JnJAssociates post... I know they are big 303 proponents (and I am as well), but I am wondering if that statement actually [i]applied[/i] to Simple Green, or was just a general "303 is better than most other products you will find, for reasons X, Y, and Z."
| JnJassociates | 06-03-2005 05:38 PM |
It was a general remark. :)
Simply Green has made polished items in our customer's engine bay' tarnish slightly. Making it neccessary for us to polish those items again ( A/C lines, Intercoolers,etc).
A great example was my TMIC on my personal car... Nothing major, but annoying...
I do not like the 'film' type coating that products like Simply green leave behind. 303 has a low pH number, making it the easy choice on more delicate items. 303 has a pH of 9 Simply Green has a pH of 9.3-9.5. This may seem very close and unimportant, until you realize that the pH scale is logarithmic scale. Each whole unit of change equals a power of ten. A pH of 8 is more acidic (by ten) then a pH of 9. I also do not find them as effective as 303... I also carry other product besides 303...
A close second for a good all purpose cleaner that is gentle on parts is POR 15 Marine Clean. But, I use it on very dirty (resto projects, engine tear downs) areas, like the undercarriage, oil pans, etc.
I am very careful as to what products I use for myself and my customers. After doing a bit of research and learning what is actually in many cleaners (auto or otherwise, IE dishwashing soap) I have aligned myself with certain companies/manufacturers. They provide truly safe products, both for myself and the enviroment. We all want the ease of shopping off the store shelf, but sometimes it is worth the extra effort to get an exceptional product at a fair price through a different venue. :)
Bryan
Simply Green has made polished items in our customer's engine bay' tarnish slightly. Making it neccessary for us to polish those items again ( A/C lines, Intercoolers,etc).
A great example was my TMIC on my personal car... Nothing major, but annoying...
I do not like the 'film' type coating that products like Simply green leave behind. 303 has a low pH number, making it the easy choice on more delicate items. 303 has a pH of 9 Simply Green has a pH of 9.3-9.5. This may seem very close and unimportant, until you realize that the pH scale is logarithmic scale. Each whole unit of change equals a power of ten. A pH of 8 is more acidic (by ten) then a pH of 9. I also do not find them as effective as 303... I also carry other product besides 303...
A close second for a good all purpose cleaner that is gentle on parts is POR 15 Marine Clean. But, I use it on very dirty (resto projects, engine tear downs) areas, like the undercarriage, oil pans, etc.
I am very careful as to what products I use for myself and my customers. After doing a bit of research and learning what is actually in many cleaners (auto or otherwise, IE dishwashing soap) I have aligned myself with certain companies/manufacturers. They provide truly safe products, both for myself and the enviroment. We all want the ease of shopping off the store shelf, but sometimes it is worth the extra effort to get an exceptional product at a fair price through a different venue. :)
Bryan
| VSGTS14 | 06-03-2005 05:45 PM |
hose it down
spray a strong all purpose cleaner on it (spray nine works well or something else)
wipe any build up you would like
hose it off
air hose it dry
spray a strong all purpose cleaner on it (spray nine works well or something else)
wipe any build up you would like
hose it off
air hose it dry
| Dark | 06-03-2005 08:51 PM |
So the whole engine bay is water prove? what if the water gets to the wires or fuses?
| jamesonc | 06-03-2005 09:41 PM |
[QUOTE=runnah]Simple Green fumes make you trip balls.[/QUOTE]
Haha.
Haha.
| 2k2 | 06-04-2005 08:59 AM |
[QUOTE=Dark]So the whole engine bay is water prove? what if the water gets to the wires or fuses?[/QUOTE]
What happens when it rains?
Does your car unexpectedly shut down because water got in your hood scoop?
Same thing applies with hose water. Just don't sit with the hose on top of your alternater for 10 minutes, in reality I have never once covered a single part on any engine ive done and use a pressure washer and yet not had a single problem (I don't use it on cars 100k plus miles)
What happens when it rains?
Does your car unexpectedly shut down because water got in your hood scoop?
Same thing applies with hose water. Just don't sit with the hose on top of your alternater for 10 minutes, in reality I have never once covered a single part on any engine ive done and use a pressure washer and yet not had a single problem (I don't use it on cars 100k plus miles)
| jamesonc | 06-04-2005 02:27 PM |
What about Lestoil? I used that on my lawnmower the other day...made a 50/50 solution of it and let it sit for about 5, then rinsed it off...nice shiny lawn mower followed by meguiars 3 step.
Worked pretty good.
Worked pretty good.
| ilnmcom | 06-04-2005 03:02 PM |
Dish Soap
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I just use dish soap and water on it. Take a sponge to it just like every other part of my car.
I do disconnect the battery and let it dry before I do anything else, but I highly doubt anything will ever get hurt.
I do disconnect the battery and let it dry before I do anything else, but I highly doubt anything will ever get hurt.
| mobilezen | 06-04-2005 04:17 PM |
I can vouch for 303...its good stuff even for kayaks. :)
| chrisarella | 06-05-2005 12:01 AM |
How dirty are we talking?
� If it's light dirt or a dusting, simple green works fine. Let it sit for a few minutes. I've used it dozens of times.
� If you have build-up, you may need to use a nylon brush after spraying the green, then hose off.
� If it is heavy dirt, oil, and grease, buy a steam-buggy.
If you have access to an air compressor, your golden. After you're done cleaning, blow everything dry using a blow-tip nozzle.
As a side note, try not to use any cleaner on the engine while it is hot. Basic chemistry tells you the heat change the molecular structure and causes a chemical reaction you may not have intended to happen. Besides the fact that the fumes can be harmful, at the very least you'll end up baking the cleaner onto your engine and have a real hard time getting it off. And for those who are concerned about the water exposure...try not to use too much water pressure. Even though the engine is exposed to a lot of water during rain, you can do some damage with exsessive pressure.
For a final added touch, use vinyl dressing on all of the rubber/plastic. You simply need to spray it on while the engine is warm, but not necessarily running. Close the hood, and come back in 10 minutes. It will shine�no rubbing or wiping necessary.
� If it's light dirt or a dusting, simple green works fine. Let it sit for a few minutes. I've used it dozens of times.
� If you have build-up, you may need to use a nylon brush after spraying the green, then hose off.
� If it is heavy dirt, oil, and grease, buy a steam-buggy.
If you have access to an air compressor, your golden. After you're done cleaning, blow everything dry using a blow-tip nozzle.
As a side note, try not to use any cleaner on the engine while it is hot. Basic chemistry tells you the heat change the molecular structure and causes a chemical reaction you may not have intended to happen. Besides the fact that the fumes can be harmful, at the very least you'll end up baking the cleaner onto your engine and have a real hard time getting it off. And for those who are concerned about the water exposure...try not to use too much water pressure. Even though the engine is exposed to a lot of water during rain, you can do some damage with exsessive pressure.
For a final added touch, use vinyl dressing on all of the rubber/plastic. You simply need to spray it on while the engine is warm, but not necessarily running. Close the hood, and come back in 10 minutes. It will shine�no rubbing or wiping necessary.
| bah14 | 06-05-2005 03:29 AM |
[QUOTE=chrisarella]
For a final added touch, use vinyl dressing on all of the rubber/plastic. You simply need to spray it on while the engine is warm, but not necessarily running. Close the hood, and come back in 10 minutes. It will shine�no rubbing or wiping necessary.[/QUOTE]
i have a bottle of 303 protectant... essentially what you're talking about. So the best way to apply it, is just mist in on, close hood, and it's done? No wiping or fine-touching?
For a final added touch, use vinyl dressing on all of the rubber/plastic. You simply need to spray it on while the engine is warm, but not necessarily running. Close the hood, and come back in 10 minutes. It will shine�no rubbing or wiping necessary.[/QUOTE]
i have a bottle of 303 protectant... essentially what you're talking about. So the best way to apply it, is just mist in on, close hood, and it's done? No wiping or fine-touching?
| JnJassociates | 06-05-2005 06:11 AM |
With 303, I would use it sparingly as a little goes a long way. Spray and wipe would be the best method. :)
Bryan
Bryan
| VSGTS14 | 06-05-2005 10:59 AM |
simple green does tarnish any shiny pieces, i wouldn't use it
| bah14 | 06-05-2005 11:27 AM |
Bryan, I trust you as a vendor. I remember getting my tein hood struts from you. You did a fantastic job handling a everyone's needs and there were a ton of people wanting them.
this may seem over the top, but i just want to be for sure since theis stuff is costly:
to detail engine with 303 products:
1. cool engine
2. cover alternator, plugs, fuses, and battery (better safe than sorry)
3. hose with cold water
4. spray with 303 cleaner/degreaser
5. rinse with water after waiting 3-5 minutes
6. air/blow dry
7. lightly mist with 303 protectant and wipe accordingly.
how's that look and/or do you have a personal protocol that you follow? ;-)
this may seem over the top, but i just want to be for sure since theis stuff is costly:
to detail engine with 303 products:
1. cool engine
2. cover alternator, plugs, fuses, and battery (better safe than sorry)
3. hose with cold water
4. spray with 303 cleaner/degreaser
5. rinse with water after waiting 3-5 minutes
6. air/blow dry
7. lightly mist with 303 protectant and wipe accordingly.
how's that look and/or do you have a personal protocol that you follow? ;-)
| Hondaslayer | 06-05-2005 11:46 AM |
Power washer + Hot stuff.
The engine bay on my 95 had never been cleaned when I got (230k)
Pre-rinse with the power washer,spray everything with Hot Stuff.
Rinse.
Hit trouble spots with hot stuff and scrub with tooth brush (the grime falls off)
Rinse.
Hot Stuff is about $20 a gallon.
A full gallon should last you a very long time.
It also work wonders on brake dust and does not harm painted surfaces.
The engine bay on my 95 had never been cleaned when I got (230k)
Pre-rinse with the power washer,spray everything with Hot Stuff.
Rinse.
Hit trouble spots with hot stuff and scrub with tooth brush (the grime falls off)
Rinse.
Hot Stuff is about $20 a gallon.
A full gallon should last you a very long time.
It also work wonders on brake dust and does not harm painted surfaces.
| MyFirstDeuce | 06-05-2005 01:27 PM |
How about those high pressure steam cleaners?
| BREWPUBEAVER | 06-05-2005 04:28 PM |
preventitive: get a aftermarket skid plate. really helps a lot.
| V6TurboTA | 06-05-2005 05:40 PM |
I would not in a MILLION years take a powerwasher to the motor of a customers car.
on that note here is the mess that resides under my hood
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~v6
p.s. I know you all sweat the cooper mod ;)
on that note here is the mess that resides under my hood
[URL=http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15516375234.jpg&s=x4][IMG]http://x4.putfile.com/6/15516375234-thumb.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
~v6
p.s. I know you all sweat the cooper mod ;)
| bah14 | 06-05-2005 06:47 PM |
looks great. What's your methedology?
| Cadaver | 06-05-2005 07:40 PM |
I've been waiting for the gremlins to clean up their dusty mess... dirty little trolls.
| Magnum626 | 06-06-2005 02:55 AM |
THe cooper puck =)
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