| Jman73 | 02-03-2002 06:01 PM |
Schroth Rallye 3 install
My friend just picked up some deist harnesses for his Aud TT so I am going to be the beneficiary of his Schroth Rallye 3 harness. Woohoo! :D Has anyone mounted one of these in a WRX wagon? I noticed that he connected his to the rear seat latch on the drivers side C-pillar where the 60/40 fold down latches when the seats are upright. I was thinking that I could do that as well but not sure how structurally "grounded" that location was in the WRX.
Thanks.
[url]http://www.autotech.com/rallye3.htm[/url]
Jeff
Thanks.
[url]http://www.autotech.com/rallye3.htm[/url]
Jeff
| Jman73 | 02-04-2002 11:32 AM |
bump
Anyone Anyone.....Bueller Bueller?
| Dussander | 02-04-2002 01:37 PM |
[url]http://www.soloperformance.com/schroth.htm[/url]
| jeffg | 02-04-2002 01:47 PM |
Not a wagon, or a WRX, but I used the rear seat lap belt mounting bolt for my Scroth Rallye3 install. That would be option D in the above posted link.
| Jman73 | 02-04-2002 03:05 PM |
Cool
Thanks everyone!
| stumpz | 02-05-2002 01:55 PM |
Not a scroth...but similar.
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/modifications/interior/harness/harness.html[/url]
suresh
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/modifications/interior/harness/harness.html[/url]
suresh
| peepshow | 02-05-2002 04:44 PM |
I believe that Schroth recommends the rear seat lapbelt anchor point as mentioned above.
- Trent
- Trent
| Jman73 | 02-05-2002 04:54 PM |
this weekend
Cool!
I hope to tackle this little project after we get my buddies deist harnesses installed. I will report back with my experience.
Jeff :)
I hope to tackle this little project after we get my buddies deist harnesses installed. I will report back with my experience.
Jeff :)
| bbbradley | 02-05-2002 07:55 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dsmawd [/i]
[B]I believe that Schroth recommends the rear seat lapbelt anchor point as mentioned above.
- Trent [/B][/QUOTE]
I sure hope not!! That is the worst way to mount it, unless you are looking to compress your spine. :eek: I suppose it would be a good way for me to gain roll bar clearance in the Miata... ;) You want that belt as close to horizontal as possible.
/bill
[B]I believe that Schroth recommends the rear seat lapbelt anchor point as mentioned above.
- Trent [/B][/QUOTE]
I sure hope not!! That is the worst way to mount it, unless you are looking to compress your spine. :eek: I suppose it would be a good way for me to gain roll bar clearance in the Miata... ;) You want that belt as close to horizontal as possible.
/bill
| peepshow | 02-06-2002 09:25 AM |
They said that as long as it was less than a 45 degree angle it was safe.
- Trent
- Trent
| Irvine Subaru | 02-07-2002 04:13 AM |
Schroth says that the C pillar should be used for the Rallye 3 and the rear lap belt anchor points for the Rallye 4. They're the experts.
They say DO NOT use the lap belt mount for the Rallye 3!!
They say DO NOT use the lap belt mount for the Rallye 3!!
| Jman73 | 02-07-2002 09:21 AM |
agreed
I just spoke to a couple club racers in town who are instructors at some for the events and they said that it needs to be attached to the C pillar.
Jeff
Jeff
| Julian | 02-07-2002 12:33 PM |
My Schroth is attached to the C-pillar, retaining the stock rear belt pivot as well (use a longer bolt, if necessary, to compensate).
| peepshow | 02-08-2002 07:35 AM |
Ooops, it was for the Rallye 4. Sorry, I assumed it would be the same for all of their harnesses.
- Trent
- Trent
| Cosworth | 02-09-2002 02:03 AM |
Schroth doesn't seem to indicate why they recommend the C-pillar for the 3 point harness and the rear lap buckles for the 4 point. IT seems to me that the 4-point harness is nearly identical to the 3-point unit in that there are two shoulder belts which end up joining at the rear of the seat and terminate in a buckle. Its only AFTER this buckle that the 3 and 4 point units differ. the 3 obviously has only ONE anchoring strap eminating from the buckle, whereas the 4 point unit has TWO straps eminating from the buckle. Why the radical mounting differences? i could see that perhaps it because that most vehicles will have the capacity to mount only ONE strap to the c-pillar leaving no other equally level mounting point for the 4-point harness's other mounting strap. The 3 point will work fine there, but not the 4 so they have no other alternative other than to recommend using the rear lap belt anchors in order to advertise "universal" compatiblilty despite the c-pillar being the prefered mounting method.
However, in the WRX, we have those 2 metal anchor points which i think are originally intended for the child seat retaining straps. I wonder if those mounting points are acceptable for the 4-point harness? Any thoughts?
However, in the WRX, we have those 2 metal anchor points which i think are originally intended for the child seat retaining straps. I wonder if those mounting points are acceptable for the 4-point harness? Any thoughts?
| bbbradley | 02-09-2002 09:17 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cosworth [/i]
[B]
However, in the WRX, we have those 2 metal anchor points which i think are originally intended for the child seat retaining straps. I wonder if those mounting points are acceptable for the 4-point harness? Any thoughts? [/B][/QUOTE]
My concern would be that those are designed to hold a child seat, and children generally do not weigh as much. Not sure if you are a real lightweight, but me at ~180 lbs... They should be overengineered, but I don't know the specifics of their weight limits, if any.
/bill
[B]
However, in the WRX, we have those 2 metal anchor points which i think are originally intended for the child seat retaining straps. I wonder if those mounting points are acceptable for the 4-point harness? Any thoughts? [/B][/QUOTE]
My concern would be that those are designed to hold a child seat, and children generally do not weigh as much. Not sure if you are a real lightweight, but me at ~180 lbs... They should be overengineered, but I don't know the specifics of their weight limits, if any.
/bill
| Jman73 | 02-25-2002 12:18 PM |
install pics
OK,
I installed the 3-point harness this weekend. Looks and feels bad-ass!
One question though. Take a look at where I bolted it down in the rear. Seems to be fine but I wanted to get everyones thoughts.
Jeff
I installed the 3-point harness this weekend. Looks and feels bad-ass!
One question though. Take a look at where I bolted it down in the rear. Seems to be fine but I wanted to get everyones thoughts.
Jeff
| Jman73 | 02-25-2002 12:19 PM |
two more pics
pic 2
| Jman73 | 02-25-2002 12:23 PM |
pic3
| jimb | 07-24-2002 05:47 PM |
Bump.. I was going through some old threads on harnesses.. I'm sorry, but this looks like a very bad idea. Mounting a harness to the strut top bolts? People have broken those things off without even thinking about them. Seems dangerous to me, even if only for autox duty.
jb
jb
| HoRo1 | 07-24-2002 09:52 PM |
bbbradley and Cosworth
I have 2 5-point harness in my WRX sedan and the shoulder belts were initially attached to the child seat mounts. I became very uncomfortable with that situation, not trusting the mounts to be strong enough, and they are now mounted to the rear seat belt anchor points - not ideal, but it will suffice until I buy either a harness bar or a 4-point cage (budget permitting).
I have 2 5-point harness in my WRX sedan and the shoulder belts were initially attached to the child seat mounts. I became very uncomfortable with that situation, not trusting the mounts to be strong enough, and they are now mounted to the rear seat belt anchor points - not ideal, but it will suffice until I buy either a harness bar or a 4-point cage (budget permitting).
| Brett555 | 07-25-2002 09:59 AM |
Just an FYI, If any [b]WRX[/b] autocrossers are interested in a Rallye 4 at a discount, shoot me an email at [email][email protected][/email] and I could offer you a discount in return for taking some digital photos of the install and doing a short writeup/review of the belts. I've had several guys do this for other cars...
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/rsxrallye4.html[/url]
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/5e39rallye4.html[/url]
I'll be gone part of the day today, but I can get back to whoever is interested later tonight. I only need 1 person, so first come first serve. I'd prefer autocrossers only because I really only recommend these belts for autocross, unless you have rollover protection in your car.
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/rsxrallye4.html[/url]
[url]http://www.soloracer.com/5e39rallye4.html[/url]
I'll be gone part of the day today, but I can get back to whoever is interested later tonight. I only need 1 person, so first come first serve. I'd prefer autocrossers only because I really only recommend these belts for autocross, unless you have rollover protection in your car.
| TimStevens | 07-25-2002 10:26 AM |
This offer only available for WRX installations? I autocross a Toyota MR2 and have been looking to install a harness in there for awhile now...
-tim
-tim
| Brett555 | 07-25-2002 12:09 PM |
Check your PM Tim, I sent you one.
| TimStevens | 07-25-2002 12:14 PM |
Thanks, I'll shoot you an e-mail tonight when I get home :)
-tim
-tim
| 2QUICK4U | 07-25-2002 12:16 PM |
Brett,
I have a WRX and a digital camera, and I need a harness. Please PM me or e-mail at [email][email protected][/email].
Frank
I have a WRX and a digital camera, and I need a harness. Please PM me or e-mail at [email][email protected][/email].
Frank
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