| Scoobie Doogie | 09-26-2005 07:23 PM |
STI prep for STU- coilover choices
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M'kay here we go. I started this thread because I have not seen anything that is dedicated to info on coilovers and their performance on Subaru's. I'm going to list what is available and prices from various vendors. I'd like everyones opinions/fact on the different brands as to their performance, reliability, rebuildability (consumer re-build or shop re-build). Post only if you have driven on the coilivers on your car or co-drove someone else's car. Also I'd like to compile which are good for daily driving and which should be track-only. I'll put this together into an excel file as we gather info for this thread and someone who know's how to post a file like that can put it up for us (cuz I don't know how). Kind of like what eclip5e did for the spring rate info in the suspension forum.
Available for Subaru's:
Bilstein PSS9
Tein
Cusco
Ground Control (kit)
Zzyzx
Moton
JIC
Helix (DNA & RNA)
Whiteline
Subaru OEM (STi)
DMS
KW
Sustec Pro
D2 Racing RS Coilovers
Buddy Club
Tanabe
Syms
Zeal
AST
Ohlins
I think that is most of them. Please add if you know if others.
I am hoping this can become a source of info for people like me who are looking but are confused by all of the brands out there and want the best bang for their dollar.
Hope this can turn into something helpful.
Dave M.
(going to STU in 06)
Available for Subaru's:
Bilstein PSS9
Tein
Cusco
Ground Control (kit)
Zzyzx
Moton
JIC
Helix (DNA & RNA)
Whiteline
Subaru OEM (STi)
DMS
KW
Sustec Pro
D2 Racing RS Coilovers
Buddy Club
Tanabe
Syms
Zeal
AST
Ohlins
I think that is most of them. Please add if you know if others.
I am hoping this can become a source of info for people like me who are looking but are confused by all of the brands out there and want the best bang for their dollar.
Hope this can turn into something helpful.
Dave M.
(going to STU in 06)
| Got Pink? | 09-26-2005 07:43 PM |
I have KW V3's and they are great for daily driving with the standard spring rates 8k F/progressive rear. Soon I will get stiffer rear springs for them though. As far as I can tell so far in very limited development they work great for autox.
Nate
Nate
| DrBiggly | 09-26-2005 08:10 PM |
Teins have won 2 STX National Championships but I'm not sure about others in the Top10 or so for each Subaru-filled type class. Hopefully some of the other folks can fill in the blanks. :)
-Biggly
-Biggly
| rasheeb | 09-26-2005 08:26 PM |
I'm running Tein flex and LOVE them. They don't have linear valving so daily driving is actually smoother than my friends stock sti with tanabe springs. Currently the springs are 10k/8k which are pretty stiff for daily use but not too bad. On the track they're amazing. Their only downfall is that I believe the rear have just a touch too much rebound, but it's such a small amount that it's hard to notice.
| sciolist | 09-26-2005 08:33 PM |
KW 2-way race coilovers.
I'm very happy with them for autoX. They are fine with me for DD, as long as the road surface isn't too outrageous. These are the stiffest springs (11/10) I've ever had on a DD, so I lack basis for comparision there.
The noise factor is not a problem - just spring noise through the camber plates, no strut klunking. No reliability issues at 6 months.
Does anyone know of a good KW rep? The vendor I purchased these from is no longer in business, and I'd like to have a source for additional springs and rebuilds.
Thanks
I'm very happy with them for autoX. They are fine with me for DD, as long as the road surface isn't too outrageous. These are the stiffest springs (11/10) I've ever had on a DD, so I lack basis for comparision there.
The noise factor is not a problem - just spring noise through the camber plates, no strut klunking. No reliability issues at 6 months.
Does anyone know of a good KW rep? The vendor I purchased these from is no longer in business, and I'd like to have a source for additional springs and rebuilds.
Thanks
| Got Pink? | 09-26-2005 08:58 PM |
I got mine from PES. [url]www.pes-tuning.com[/url] They mainly sell things for Porsches, Audis and VWs but were really helpful and glad to place an order for them from KW. If you need service or parts just call KW North America directly and ask for Tom Edge he knows his stuff and can help get things done for you.
Nate
[QUOTE=sciolist]KW 2-way race coilovers.
I'm very happy with them for autoX. They are fine with me for DD, as long as the road surface isn't too outrageous. These are the stiffest springs (11/10) I've ever had on a DD, so I lack basis for comparision there.
The noise factor is not a problem - just spring noise through the camber plates, no strut klunking. No reliability issues at 6 months.
Does anyone know of a good KW rep? The vendor I purchased these from is no longer in business, and I'd like to have a source for additional springs and rebuilds.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Nate
[QUOTE=sciolist]KW 2-way race coilovers.
I'm very happy with them for autoX. They are fine with me for DD, as long as the road surface isn't too outrageous. These are the stiffest springs (11/10) I've ever had on a DD, so I lack basis for comparision there.
The noise factor is not a problem - just spring noise through the camber plates, no strut klunking. No reliability issues at 6 months.
Does anyone know of a good KW rep? The vendor I purchased these from is no longer in business, and I'd like to have a source for additional springs and rebuilds.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
| neuspeed | 09-26-2005 09:25 PM |
[QUOTE=Got Pink?]I got mine from PES. [url]www.pes-tuning.com[/url] They mainly sell things for Porsches, Audis and VWs but were really helpful and glad to place an order for them from KW. If you need service or parts just call KW North America directly and ask for Tom Edge he knows his stuff and can help get things done for you.
Nate[/QUOTE]
I know the CEO guy there. He's in Hermosa Beach CA?
Nate[/QUOTE]
I know the CEO guy there. He's in Hermosa Beach CA?
| dowroa | 09-26-2005 09:49 PM |
Wow... I am surprised that I didn't fully comprehend the subject of this post the first time I wrote this post :)
I still think that coilovers are VERY short sighted as coilovers are a silly step if you dont need them. Ground Control has a coilover conversion kit that would fulfill 90% of what people are looking for in coilovers, and more importantly, what they need for the right price.
If you are serious about going faster:
"Some pink springs = 90% of what you need. Plenty good enough to rule locally. GC coilover conversion it good enough to win it all. IFF you HAVE to get coilovers, Tein's have been on all the winnars!! Like it, love it, or just waste your money on the more expensive crap... emphasis on crap."
Everything else is just for daily driving :).
Owned:
- STi JDM Spec C pinks
- GC 350/300
- Tein Flexes 10/8s
- dow
I still think that coilovers are VERY short sighted as coilovers are a silly step if you dont need them. Ground Control has a coilover conversion kit that would fulfill 90% of what people are looking for in coilovers, and more importantly, what they need for the right price.
If you are serious about going faster:
"Some pink springs = 90% of what you need. Plenty good enough to rule locally. GC coilover conversion it good enough to win it all. IFF you HAVE to get coilovers, Tein's have been on all the winnars!! Like it, love it, or just waste your money on the more expensive crap... emphasis on crap."
Everything else is just for daily driving :).
Owned:
- STi JDM Spec C pinks
- GC 350/300
- Tein Flexes 10/8s
- dow
| Draken | 09-26-2005 10:04 PM |
I'll be running my car in STU next year, after taking most of 2005 off from national level competition. '04 STi, revalved Tein Flex, bars, etc. Undecided on my tires yet.
Chris H.
[url]www.subrew.com[/url]
PS: Hoppe is my hero
Chris H.
[url]www.subrew.com[/url]
PS: Hoppe is my hero
| Butt Dyno | 09-26-2005 10:23 PM |
Cool idea.. I have wanted to do this in Suspension for a while.
performance: I have a set of JIC FLTA2-RS (i.e. not off the shelf valving). The autox performance I am really happy with - a few clicks makes an instantly noticeable difference in handling and I never have problems getting it handling to my liking. I just suck, is all :)
Luke Russell was what, 5th overall at One Lap on a set of JIC's? And Gary Sheehan finished 6th overall at a time attack with the Element Tuning car on some JIC's ([url]http://www.elementtuning.com/elementracestimeattack.htm[/url])
(both talented drivers obviously, but proof that the coilovers don't suck)
rebuildability/durability: I think they probably have 20K street miles on them so far and don't seem to be any worse for the wear. I seem to remember thinking they had to go back to JPN for a rebuild. It's somewhere in the 15-page "calling all jic coilover owners" thread.
Dual purpose: Definitely track biased; depends on your tolerance.
edit: springrates are 9k/10k.
john
performance: I have a set of JIC FLTA2-RS (i.e. not off the shelf valving). The autox performance I am really happy with - a few clicks makes an instantly noticeable difference in handling and I never have problems getting it handling to my liking. I just suck, is all :)
Luke Russell was what, 5th overall at One Lap on a set of JIC's? And Gary Sheehan finished 6th overall at a time attack with the Element Tuning car on some JIC's ([url]http://www.elementtuning.com/elementracestimeattack.htm[/url])
(both talented drivers obviously, but proof that the coilovers don't suck)
rebuildability/durability: I think they probably have 20K street miles on them so far and don't seem to be any worse for the wear. I seem to remember thinking they had to go back to JPN for a rebuild. It's somewhere in the 15-page "calling all jic coilover owners" thread.
Dual purpose: Definitely track biased; depends on your tolerance.
edit: springrates are 9k/10k.
john
| silver arrow | 09-26-2005 10:38 PM |
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| WRX-ECE | 09-26-2005 11:16 PM |
Dave, good idea for a thread.
I've had TEIN Flexes and two sets of RAs
Flexes: Stock valving and springs (old, I think they re-did them)
Good for Auto-x, great on street, EDFC is cool too. Won STX in Philly with the Flexes (not that I'm good or there was any competition)
RAs: first set was garbage used ones that blew in a couple months of street driving, that being said, TEIN cannot rebuild them in the US, so they've got to go to Japan to get done (for an arm and a leg too, like 3/4 of new). Didn't look much beyond TEIN's qoute for the re-build, since I just bought new ones
New ones, haven't run many events on them (4 manybe), but they rock on the street when soft, too stiff at hard for anything but perfect pavement.
I have STi version 6 on my Wagon, they rock all the time, but that's mostly because wagons rock!
Jeremy
I've had TEIN Flexes and two sets of RAs
Flexes: Stock valving and springs (old, I think they re-did them)
Good for Auto-x, great on street, EDFC is cool too. Won STX in Philly with the Flexes (not that I'm good or there was any competition)
RAs: first set was garbage used ones that blew in a couple months of street driving, that being said, TEIN cannot rebuild them in the US, so they've got to go to Japan to get done (for an arm and a leg too, like 3/4 of new). Didn't look much beyond TEIN's qoute for the re-build, since I just bought new ones
New ones, haven't run many events on them (4 manybe), but they rock on the street when soft, too stiff at hard for anything but perfect pavement.
I have STi version 6 on my Wagon, they rock all the time, but that's mostly because wagons rock!
Jeremy
| PhilC | 09-27-2005 08:42 AM |
We went through a set of JIC FLT-A2-RS with 8k/10k springs. Not unbearable on the street and much better than the normal FLT-A2 as far as bouncyness goes but definitely stiffer than you might like. Both rears blew out completely after just over one year of autocross competition and both fronts exhibit strut flex. They can be rebuilt at JIC-USA fairly cheaply, we were quoted $100-180 per strut depending on how bad they were.
This year we swapped over to Mike's old DA Koni units. Massive improvement in street ride compared to the JICs. Can't directly compare them to the JICs on track because our last experiences with the JICs was with blown out broken ones but they have a WAY wider range of adjustment than the JICs did.
You forgot the Progress units in your list which seem to work awfully well for Josh.
This year we swapped over to Mike's old DA Koni units. Massive improvement in street ride compared to the JICs. Can't directly compare them to the JICs on track because our last experiences with the JICs was with blown out broken ones but they have a WAY wider range of adjustment than the JICs did.
You forgot the Progress units in your list which seem to work awfully well for Josh.
| angryfist | 09-27-2005 09:11 AM |
tein ra's for 3 years. rates used anywhere from 6kg to 10kg. not too bad on the street depending where you live (michigan sucks). never had any problems with them at all. work great on the track too. car placed 3rd,4th, adn 5th in stx nationals and 1st in stxl so guess their workign pretty well.
btw. if anyone is interested this set will be for sale in about a month. i have 6,7,8,9,10 kg/mm springs. custom camber caster plates. they have not been driven in teh winter. and this year my car was a trailer queen so they havent seen much street driving this year. pm me if interested.
btw. if anyone is interested this set will be for sale in about a month. i have 6,7,8,9,10 kg/mm springs. custom camber caster plates. they have not been driven in teh winter. and this year my car was a trailer queen so they havent seen much street driving this year. pm me if interested.
| omahasubaru | 09-27-2005 09:30 AM |
[url=http://www.zzyzxmotorsports.com]Zzyzx Motorsports[/url]. Their [url=http://zzyzxmotorsports.com/events/team-stompy/]new design[/url] is the only real option for any subaru IMHO. I've tried a few and nothing even comes close and I'm running the previous/older versions.
Thanks - Jon
Thanks - Jon
| trhoppe | 09-27-2005 11:19 AM |
[quote] I started this thread because I have not seen anything that is dedicated to info on coilovers and their performance on Subaru's.[/quote] :huh: :huh:
There is so much info on coilovers for autox in this forum thats its nuts.
-Tom
There is so much info on coilovers for autox in this forum thats its nuts.
-Tom
| Scoobie Doogie | 09-27-2005 12:34 PM |
There is a lot of info here Tom but it is not condensed enough to be truly useful as a go to source. I am compiling everything into one excel file for all of the best applications and will post it in the thread once we get the data sorted. I just think it can be organized to become useful. Eventually I'd like to do the same with exhaust, brakes and other suspension bits so that newbies and guys who are setting up newly purchased cars have a better start.
Dave
Dave
| trhoppe | 09-27-2005 01:00 PM |
mmkay then. I just read the first sentence and said "dude"
I can host an xls file if you want.
-Tom
I can host an xls file if you want.
-Tom
| Templar | 09-27-2005 01:23 PM |
I have posted this before, but I will add it here again.
I have driven and raced on the following suspensions
Cusco Zero2R
Tein HA
JIC FLT-A2RS
DMS Gold
Zeal Function V6
Zeal Function B6
D2 Racing sports
STI takeoffs with a variety of springs
Both the D2s and the JICs were custom spring and valved to my specs.
Out of all of those I feel that the D2s offered the best valving of any of the others by far. The only drawback I have found to the D2s is lack of rear droop travel, but I am working on adding a tender spring settup to the rear to help in that area. They are not bouncy and on course the car stays flat, but still doesn't get too upset by sudden tarmac dips or bumps. The daily ride on the, even with spring rates over 600 lbs/inch is firm but not unpleasant at all. I have been extremely pleased by them and at the price they sell for, who can argue.
Having said all that, when compared to your higher end double adjustable, custom built settups, (such as the zzyzx settup which I personally think may be the best system out there for Subarus) I think they would fall short, but they still compare favorably against other kits that sometimes cost twice as much.
The D2s are rebuildable in the US, and available in a variety of custom spring rates.
I have driven and raced on the following suspensions
Cusco Zero2R
Tein HA
JIC FLT-A2RS
DMS Gold
Zeal Function V6
Zeal Function B6
D2 Racing sports
STI takeoffs with a variety of springs
Both the D2s and the JICs were custom spring and valved to my specs.
Out of all of those I feel that the D2s offered the best valving of any of the others by far. The only drawback I have found to the D2s is lack of rear droop travel, but I am working on adding a tender spring settup to the rear to help in that area. They are not bouncy and on course the car stays flat, but still doesn't get too upset by sudden tarmac dips or bumps. The daily ride on the, even with spring rates over 600 lbs/inch is firm but not unpleasant at all. I have been extremely pleased by them and at the price they sell for, who can argue.
Having said all that, when compared to your higher end double adjustable, custom built settups, (such as the zzyzx settup which I personally think may be the best system out there for Subarus) I think they would fall short, but they still compare favorably against other kits that sometimes cost twice as much.
The D2s are rebuildable in the US, and available in a variety of custom spring rates.
| trhoppe | 09-27-2005 01:43 PM |
[QUOTE=Scoobie Doogie] Also I'd like to compile which are good for daily driving and which should be track-only. [/quote] Any of these will work for a "daily driver" if you are willing to deal with a harsh ride. Having said that, any of these will be a complete waste of $$ for a daily driver as you will get 98% of the performance with a regular spring/stock shock combo on an STi.
Here is how I feel about the following
[quote]Bilstein PSS9 - Overpriced, progressive spring crap
Tein RA - Inverted, good valve, hard to revalve, can go 8/10 or 10/8 from the factory. Keif used them to win, Corey and Wong/Brooks use them
Tein Flex - The cheaper setup that actually has a good valve on them and work well on STis. I would recommend this for an autox/daily driver car if you want to be just a smidgen faster at autoxing. Otherwise, go with springs/shocks.
Cusco - Overpriced crap. Crap valving. Everyone that likes cusco likes them because they are JDM and because they payed too much $$ to convince themselves they are on crap
Ground Control (kit) - Awesome setup for a daily drive/autox STi which cared more about comfort then that last tenth. 325/300 rate. You can't go crazy with the camber unless you actually cut the stock spring perches, but will work for 99% of autoxers on this board.
Zzyzx - The no compromises, I want to win nationals and have a ton of $$ setup. There was plenty written in other places about how much these own in every single way
Moton - Overpriced, pointless. Get the above setup as you will have a better shock (IMHO) for way less $$
JIC - Good build and good parts, but a horrible OEM valve and horrible curves (very progressive). If you can get them revalved or get a custom valve that doesn't suck they will work, but are nowhere NEAR the zzyzx setup. Comparable to Teins
Helix (DNA & RNA) - Crap
Whiteline - Crap for autox, shouldn't be mentioned in this thread. You would be better off staying stock for autox.
Subaru OEM (STi) - Great for a daily driver/autox car more focused on comfort. Pair with pinks or GC kit.
DMS - 40s are crap, 50s work for the USTCC track car, but are WAY to much $$ for what you get. Pointless for autox IMHO
KW - Not much experience with these. Courtney likes these on his mini, but I think there are better options out there that are proven.
Sustec Pro - Are these sold on ebay? Wouldn't bother with a no-name shock.
D2 Racing RS Coilovers - Blah. Templar likes them, but I think they might be a Koni copy. I would have to try them for myself before I have an opinion.
Buddy Club - See Cusco
Tanabe - See Cusco
Syms - See Cusco
Zeal - See Cusco
[/QUOTE]
In the end, anything that changes compression as well as rebound with the same knob is crap for a serious autox car. You will screw up your handling on one part of the turn trying to fix something else.
-Tom
Here is how I feel about the following
[quote]Bilstein PSS9 - Overpriced, progressive spring crap
Tein RA - Inverted, good valve, hard to revalve, can go 8/10 or 10/8 from the factory. Keif used them to win, Corey and Wong/Brooks use them
Tein Flex - The cheaper setup that actually has a good valve on them and work well on STis. I would recommend this for an autox/daily driver car if you want to be just a smidgen faster at autoxing. Otherwise, go with springs/shocks.
Cusco - Overpriced crap. Crap valving. Everyone that likes cusco likes them because they are JDM and because they payed too much $$ to convince themselves they are on crap
Ground Control (kit) - Awesome setup for a daily drive/autox STi which cared more about comfort then that last tenth. 325/300 rate. You can't go crazy with the camber unless you actually cut the stock spring perches, but will work for 99% of autoxers on this board.
Zzyzx - The no compromises, I want to win nationals and have a ton of $$ setup. There was plenty written in other places about how much these own in every single way
Moton - Overpriced, pointless. Get the above setup as you will have a better shock (IMHO) for way less $$
JIC - Good build and good parts, but a horrible OEM valve and horrible curves (very progressive). If you can get them revalved or get a custom valve that doesn't suck they will work, but are nowhere NEAR the zzyzx setup. Comparable to Teins
Helix (DNA & RNA) - Crap
Whiteline - Crap for autox, shouldn't be mentioned in this thread. You would be better off staying stock for autox.
Subaru OEM (STi) - Great for a daily driver/autox car more focused on comfort. Pair with pinks or GC kit.
DMS - 40s are crap, 50s work for the USTCC track car, but are WAY to much $$ for what you get. Pointless for autox IMHO
KW - Not much experience with these. Courtney likes these on his mini, but I think there are better options out there that are proven.
Sustec Pro - Are these sold on ebay? Wouldn't bother with a no-name shock.
D2 Racing RS Coilovers - Blah. Templar likes them, but I think they might be a Koni copy. I would have to try them for myself before I have an opinion.
Buddy Club - See Cusco
Tanabe - See Cusco
Syms - See Cusco
Zeal - See Cusco
[/QUOTE]
In the end, anything that changes compression as well as rebound with the same knob is crap for a serious autox car. You will screw up your handling on one part of the turn trying to fix something else.
-Tom
| Dieman | 09-27-2005 01:44 PM |
ZZYZX...no question from what I have installed and seen. We ran a Tein Flex with Noltec Top Hats on Branden's STU car (1st at Nationals this year). The first set-up on the Tein's induced a crazy amount of bounce on corner exit. We swapped the springs and that seemed to help but they are still WAY too soft to be right. Our saving grace at SCCA this year was Branden's consistancy and not the suspension set-up. The ride is also very rough compared to the ZZYZX ones. I have seen JIC's break and Cusco's break on the strut housings. Although I have not driven them on a car I do not know how good they are handling wise and road worthy wise they have failed which scares me. Branden's car will hopefully be running the zzyzx's next year. They are not the cheapest set out there so if money is a major factor I would count them out. But if you are talking SCCA competitive or road course competitive, these are phenomenal...and they are surprisingly civil on the street.
| AtomicRacer | 09-27-2005 06:06 PM |
Tom,
You forgot to include AST's and Ohlins.
-paul
You forgot to include AST's and Ohlins.
-paul
| neuspeed | 09-27-2005 06:59 PM |
What about for daily drivers/trackers. and JIC FLTA1's?
| z3coupe | 09-27-2005 08:44 PM |
[QUOTE]KW - Not much experience with these. Courtney likes these on his mini, but I think there are better options out there that are proven.[/QUOTE]Tom, I have just ordered the KW V3's for my 05 STi, and will soon be able to do some sort of comparison of them to the Zeal V6's I am dumping, and some experience with Cusco Zero2R's I had on my old WRX. I went with the KW because I have heard not so good about the Teins, and read a lot of interesting reviews and tech talk about the KW's. They are GERMAN built, so do not have the same philosophy as the JDM brands on how a car should handle (and ride on USA streets), and are double adjustable. Though I might not ever win at Nationals, if they do well enough for me local AND are comfortable in normal every day driving, then to me that is a winner :banana: Actually, ANYTHING that keeps my GF from b*tching IS A WINNER!!! :devil:
Other than those mentioned, my shock experience was with either KONI Yellows on my old 79 RX7, BMW Z3 Coupe, TR Spitfires & GT6, and a set of SPAX (maybe the first coilover ever back in the 70's???) that I had on both my 69 Lotus Europa (Jimmy Clark Special) and my 72 Lotus Europa (with a Renault Ghordini hemi race engine).
Oh, and as a sidenote - KW has an exclusive relationship with KONI, so the internals are built for them by KONI. And did I mention the price was right? Only a wee bit more than Tein Flex! :cool:
Other than those mentioned, my shock experience was with either KONI Yellows on my old 79 RX7, BMW Z3 Coupe, TR Spitfires & GT6, and a set of SPAX (maybe the first coilover ever back in the 70's???) that I had on both my 69 Lotus Europa (Jimmy Clark Special) and my 72 Lotus Europa (with a Renault Ghordini hemi race engine).
Oh, and as a sidenote - KW has an exclusive relationship with KONI, so the internals are built for them by KONI. And did I mention the price was right? Only a wee bit more than Tein Flex! :cool:
| z3coupe | 09-27-2005 08:57 PM |
Oh, and another note that might be of interest. As KC told someone, stop constantly tweaking your car and just drive it and learn it for awhile before changing something else again. Well, in another way to look at things, just because Driver "A" won on Shock "X", does not mean that Driver "B" will win on them. Even Josh Sorter said that he tried someone else's setup and hated it, went back to what he liked and won. Same would go for shocks. What EVER makes YOU feel comfortable and confident in driving on, will also help you drive better and perhaps win with. Some like having a setup that is wild and crazy (like some Neon driver that had an insane setup on his car), but that fits his driving style. Others might want smooth and constant, the same setup would make him afraid to push the limits. I doubt I could last 2 minutes in Tom's car :devil: But then, he might find mine too boring? :lol:
| z3coupe | 09-27-2005 09:01 PM |
FLASH! Sorry to post again, but thought this might be of interest. Just now got this in E-Mail:[QUOTE]Thank you for your interest in TEIN High Performance Suspension. Thank you for the offer but we have already done all the necessary testing for the [B]Super Racing kit[/B]. We expect the kit to be out at the end of this year or early 2006. Unfortunately at this time we do not have a set price at this time.
Best regards,
Sales
Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
[url]www.tein.com[/url][/QUOTE]Just in case anyone was waiting for the double adjustable Tein coilover kit with can also use DUAL EDFC units.
Best regards,
Sales
Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
[url]www.tein.com[/url][/QUOTE]Just in case anyone was waiting for the double adjustable Tein coilover kit with can also use DUAL EDFC units.
| trhoppe | 09-28-2005 11:30 AM |
I hope its Super!!!
| ChrisDP | 09-28-2005 12:11 PM |
Courtney/Richard's Mini has a development set of KW 2-way Race coilovers on it. I believe they're using different valving from the production units, done to Richard's specs.
| Scoobie Doogie | 09-28-2005 03:41 PM |
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