| buzz313th | 02-23-2006 04:44 PM |
STX Legal front bumper cover
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Question.......
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB
| KSwrxWAGON | 02-23-2006 05:14 PM |
The cover only. You can't modify the bumper internals, though. An example of an illegal mod would be to use a lightweight jdm bumper beam.
| buzz313th | 02-23-2006 05:25 PM |
Just the bumper cover....
JB
JB
| WJM | 02-23-2006 06:46 PM |
Yeah, just the cover...so what you are proposing is legal.
| PKer | 02-23-2006 07:42 PM |
Ricer.
| WJM | 02-23-2006 07:43 PM |
[QUOTE=PKer]Ricer.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAH
| buzz313th | 02-23-2006 07:47 PM |
[QUOTE=PKer]Ricer.[/QUOTE]
:banana: :p
:banana: :p
| DrBiggly | 02-23-2006 09:50 PM |
Dude, what on earth would you want to do this for? :confused:
-Biggly
-Biggly
| buzz313th | 02-23-2006 09:56 PM |
Cause it looks cooler.....
| WJM | 02-23-2006 10:08 PM |
[QUOTE=buzz313th]Cause it looks cooler.....[/QUOTE]
exactly. I'd love to have a bugeye with the complete STi-Prodrive Style setup on it....aslong as it had a complete 2006 drivetrain swap in it. :devil:
exactly. I'd love to have a bugeye with the complete STi-Prodrive Style setup on it....aslong as it had a complete 2006 drivetrain swap in it. :devil:
| pio!pio! | 02-24-2006 02:33 AM |
after market covers too?
I could make my own body kit company and make a cover w/ tons of aero devices
I could make my own body kit company and make a cover w/ tons of aero devices
| osizeit | 02-24-2006 02:37 PM |
Does anyone know if a lightweight battery is legal in STX? It would retain the factory location.
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???
| PKer | 02-24-2006 02:42 PM |
[QUOTE=buzz313th]Cause it looks cooler.....[/QUOTE]
especially when it's unpainted mad tyte fake carbon fib4r.
especially when it's unpainted mad tyte fake carbon fib4r.
| buzz313th | 02-24-2006 03:52 PM |
[QUOTE=PKer]especially when it's unpainted mad tyte fake carbon fib4r.[/QUOTE]
Hey Seb, I wouldn't talk if I was you.
What about your Tiite A s s carbon fiber pedal covers?
:D
JB
Hey Seb, I wouldn't talk if I was you.
What about your Tiite A s s carbon fiber pedal covers?
:D
JB
| omahasubaru | 02-25-2006 09:51 PM |
What I question about the rules is that it is clear that you can't remove any lights, but that you can replace the bumper cover.
So am I to read this as you can replace the cover as long as you retain the fog lights?
Seems there 'could' be some front end weight savings if the bumper cover rule allowed for fog light removal for fitment.
So am I to read this as you can replace the cover as long as you retain the fog lights?
Seems there 'could' be some front end weight savings if the bumper cover rule allowed for fog light removal for fitment.
| crystalhelix | 02-25-2006 11:26 PM |
[QUOTE=osizeit]Does anyone know if a lightweight battery is legal in STX? It would retain the factory location.
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???[/QUOTE]
I am sure this is in the rule book, clearly stated.
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???[/QUOTE]
I am sure this is in the rule book, clearly stated.
| wm07 | 02-25-2006 11:47 PM |
besides the fog lights assembly, does a fiberglass bumper cover provide any weight savings over the stock plastic (I assume they are plastic) piece?
| omahasubaru | 02-27-2006 11:23 AM |
Fiberglass not likely, but other materials even that of stock could provide savings, especially if the fogs could be removed.
| mccanixx | 02-27-2006 12:26 PM |
I pretty sure the fogs can't be removed, unless they we're optioned on the car.
I posed this question here [url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/175849.aspx[/url]
My intent was to lose the fogs (weight) and open a clear path to my long ram intake. Of course JB touched on this in his first post. I know the 02-03 we're a standard option, don't know about the after years of WRX's.
omahasubaru, I'm with you but......
F. Addition of spoilers, body kits, rear wings [I]which do not require
removal of standard parts [/I] other than the substitution of rear
wings/spoilers and valances/bumper covers.
I think it's in the spirit of ST but thems the rules.
I posed this question here [url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/175849.aspx[/url]
My intent was to lose the fogs (weight) and open a clear path to my long ram intake. Of course JB touched on this in his first post. I know the 02-03 we're a standard option, don't know about the after years of WRX's.
omahasubaru, I'm with you but......
F. Addition of spoilers, body kits, rear wings [I]which do not require
removal of standard parts [/I] other than the substitution of rear
wings/spoilers and valances/bumper covers.
I think it's in the spirit of ST but thems the rules.
| PKer | 02-27-2006 07:59 PM |
[QUOTE=buzz313th]Hey Seb, I wouldn't talk if I was you.
What about your Tiite A s s carbon fiber pedal covers?
:D
JB[/QUOTE]
You mean my ricer dead pedal? Guilty as charged.:lol:
What about your Tiite A s s carbon fiber pedal covers?
:D
JB[/QUOTE]
You mean my ricer dead pedal? Guilty as charged.:lol:
| dowroa | 02-28-2006 02:35 PM |
[QUOTE=buzz313th]Question.......
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB[/QUOTE]
Ha! This is SO funny. I am going THE OTHER WAY since all the extra 'crap' on the STi bumper WILL get knocked off, so the WRX bumper >>>> STI bumper with 'fins'.
Hope you have $texas to replace those fins once you hit a few cones (and buying those plastic fasteners @ 1.18 PER fastener!! :eek:
- dow
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB[/QUOTE]
Ha! This is SO funny. I am going THE OTHER WAY since all the extra 'crap' on the STi bumper WILL get knocked off, so the WRX bumper >>>> STI bumper with 'fins'.
Hope you have $texas to replace those fins once you hit a few cones (and buying those plastic fasteners @ 1.18 PER fastener!! :eek:
- dow
| ChrisL2 | 02-28-2006 03:00 PM |
[QUOTE=buzz313th]Question.......
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB[/QUOTE]
The bumper cover is the same. The STi just has the side pieces on it. Why would you replace the whole bumper cover?
Would it be legal, to replace the WRX front bumper cover with the STI front bumper cover (also keeping the WRX fog lights).
The rule book states, that the bumper cover is one of the pieces that can be replaced.
JB[/QUOTE]
The bumper cover is the same. The STi just has the side pieces on it. Why would you replace the whole bumper cover?
| IamRascal | 02-28-2006 03:24 PM |
just wax them up good and nice..
Bumper covers are not limited, and removal of the foglights is only allowed if it was a factory option.
As said above the actual bumper is what you are not allowed to mess with.
Although my next question would be, isn't their something else on the car that you could improve for the same amount of money that would make the car more competitive?
Bumper covers are not limited, and removal of the foglights is only allowed if it was a factory option.
As said above the actual bumper is what you are not allowed to mess with.
Although my next question would be, isn't their something else on the car that you could improve for the same amount of money that would make the car more competitive?
| Snakebot | 02-28-2006 05:55 PM |
[QUOTE=osizeit]Does anyone know if a lightweight battery is legal in STX? It would retain the factory location.
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???[/QUOTE]
Yes it's legal.
You're also allowed to relocate the battery as long as it's not in the passenger compartment. If the battery is not a sealed design, you have to put it in a battery box if you relocate it.
My battery just died and I purchased a Braille as a replacement....
From reading the rule book I think it is, just wanted to check what everyone else thought???[/QUOTE]
Yes it's legal.
You're also allowed to relocate the battery as long as it's not in the passenger compartment. If the battery is not a sealed design, you have to put it in a battery box if you relocate it.
| Snakebot | 02-28-2006 06:02 PM |
[QUOTE=mccanixx]I pretty sure the fogs can't be removed, unless they we're optioned on the car.[/QUOTE]
You're correct. If the fog lights are standard on the car, you can not remove them. If the lights are available as an option, you can remove them.
To simplify things, if you can buy the car without the fog lights you can remove them. If the can't buy the car without the fog lights, you can't remove them.
The same rule applies to other standard parts, not just the fog lights.
You're correct. If the fog lights are standard on the car, you can not remove them. If the lights are available as an option, you can remove them.
To simplify things, if you can buy the car without the fog lights you can remove them. If the can't buy the car without the fog lights, you can't remove them.
The same rule applies to other standard parts, not just the fog lights.
| Warp3 | 03-01-2006 12:00 PM |
Y'know I had removed my foglights partway through last season (I'm in Street Mod) with the intent of using the resulting opening for brake ducts (as the car will be seeing more track use now). However, after reading this thread and having it change my view on the rules, I reread the 2006 rules and now I'm not even sure that Street Mod allows removing foglights! :confused:
The wording for the body section (that affects the bumper fascias) is different, but not really all that more forgiving than the Street Touring rules on the bumper fascia portion:
[i]I. Hoods (engine covers), front fenders, [b]front & rear facias[/b], and
side skirts [b]may be modified or replaced[/b], and may be attached
with removable fasteners. Fenders may be flared as per Street
Prepared. Non-metallic fender liners may be modified, replaced,
or removed.[/i]
The only mention of lights I see is near the beginning of the SM ruleset where it states the following:
[i]A. All Stock, Street Touring, and Street Prepared modifications are
authorized. [b]Except as noted by these rules and the referenced
rules, vehicles must be as originally delivered including all road
going components such as lights[/b], wipers, interior, heater, etc.[/i]
Any input on whether removing the foglights on a 1999 2.5RS is legal in Street Mod? (They were standard equipment on this car and I doubt there would have been a factory delete option from Subaru for them.)
FYI, here is a related post on SCCA forums about my question: [url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/121807.aspx[/url]. Not sure how accurate some of the reasoning is in that thread, though.
Shane -- SM 729
The wording for the body section (that affects the bumper fascias) is different, but not really all that more forgiving than the Street Touring rules on the bumper fascia portion:
[i]I. Hoods (engine covers), front fenders, [b]front & rear facias[/b], and
side skirts [b]may be modified or replaced[/b], and may be attached
with removable fasteners. Fenders may be flared as per Street
Prepared. Non-metallic fender liners may be modified, replaced,
or removed.[/i]
The only mention of lights I see is near the beginning of the SM ruleset where it states the following:
[i]A. All Stock, Street Touring, and Street Prepared modifications are
authorized. [b]Except as noted by these rules and the referenced
rules, vehicles must be as originally delivered including all road
going components such as lights[/b], wipers, interior, heater, etc.[/i]
Any input on whether removing the foglights on a 1999 2.5RS is legal in Street Mod? (They were standard equipment on this car and I doubt there would have been a factory delete option from Subaru for them.)
FYI, here is a related post on SCCA forums about my question: [url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/121807.aspx[/url]. Not sure how accurate some of the reasoning is in that thread, though.
Shane -- SM 729
| afpdl | 03-01-2006 12:44 PM |
Edit: I was thinking of the wrong thing. NM.
| Warp3 | 03-01-2006 01:43 PM |
On second thought, could I just claim I converted my car to 99L coupe trim (which is legal in Stock) then upgraded the engine, suspension and body work using 2.5RS parts (all of which are legal to replace in Street Mod)? ;)
Shane -- SM 729
Shane -- SM 729
| KSwrxWAGON | 03-01-2006 01:53 PM |
[QUOTE=Warp3]On second thought, could I just claim I converted my car to 99L coupe trim (which is legal in Stock) then upgraded the engine, suspension and body work using 2.5RS parts (all of which are legal to replace in Street Mod)? ;)
Shane -- SM 729[/QUOTE]
Yes, whatever is legal in stock class is also legal in higher classes. As long as you are prepping your car for SM, this is all legal.
Shane -- SM 729[/QUOTE]
Yes, whatever is legal in stock class is also legal in higher classes. As long as you are prepping your car for SM, this is all legal.
| Warp3 | 03-03-2006 11:05 AM |
I'm still curious to know if it's legal in SM without having to treat it that way, though. :-/
Shane -- SM 729
Shane -- SM 729
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