| Dr. WOT | 01-03-2006 02:23 PM |
[QUOTE=Howl]What happened to yesterday's coverage? They played the first day's coverage again?[/QUOTE]
No, it was the new one. They show each pervious day's coverage at 4pmEST. There is a glitch with how the schedule is listed in Tivo's guide, so if you get a season pass, make sure to record all episodes.
No, it was the new one. They show each pervious day's coverage at 4pmEST. There is a glitch with how the schedule is listed in Tivo's guide, so if you get a season pass, make sure to record all episodes.
| Howl | 01-03-2006 02:32 PM |
In Canada OLN showed the same show (Lisboa to Portimoa) Sunday night at 7:30pm and Monday night at 7:30pm. :(
| Bonzo | 01-03-2006 03:47 PM |
[QUOTE=Howl]There's also the need to go full-bore for at least a few hours every day, plus a lot of highway-speed miles (9,000km's in all), for 15 straight days with virtually no time for major repairs. Driving a regular trophy truck in the Dakar would be like driving an F1 car in the 24 Heures Du Mans. You might do okay for the first quarter of the race, but you won't last the distance.[/QUOTE]
I don't think the analogy is quite that severe. Running 1000 miles non-stop in the Baja is pretty severe.
I am sure they know how to build a truck to last. Crashes cannot be accounted for by anyone.
From what I remember of the WFO sections are fairly smooth so major suspension is not needed. However their are hours upon hours of remote racing too. Unpossible to predict.
I don't think the analogy is quite that severe. Running 1000 miles non-stop in the Baja is pretty severe.
I am sure they know how to build a truck to last. Crashes cannot be accounted for by anyone.
From what I remember of the WFO sections are fairly smooth so major suspension is not needed. However their are hours upon hours of remote racing too. Unpossible to predict.
| Jon Bogert | 01-03-2006 04:16 PM |
[quote]I am sure they know how to build a truck to last.[/quote]How sure? Current standings are at [url]http://www.dakar.com/2006/DAK/LIVE/us/400/classement/CGA.html[/url]
| leaknoil | 01-03-2006 04:29 PM |
He finished 104th on the last stage. almost 3 hours slower then the Sainz. Something went very wrong.
Ah finally they post what happened. Transmission went boom: [url]http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_597.shtml[/url]
Ah finally they post what happened. Transmission went boom: [url]http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_597.shtml[/url]
| Bonzo | 01-03-2006 05:56 PM |
[QUOTE=Jon Bogert]How sure? Current standings are at [url]http://www.dakar.com/2006/DAK/LIVE/us/400/classement/CGA.html[/url][/QUOTE]
isht happens.
pasted from r..g.com
"Once this morning�s race had begun, on the timed �Special� middle stage of the Er Rachidia-Quarzaate trail, Gordon�s Hummer quickly began to demolish Schlesser�s time advantage for the race. �He had a solid 12 minutes on us at the start and we were seven cars back with two minutes spacing between us, so he had disappeared by the time we took to the course. Our Hummer was doing really well and we�d gained almost everything we�d lost when we began to realize that we had a serious transmission problem. A drive flange finally failed, which killed any chance of us taking the overall win.�
isht happens.
pasted from r..g.com
"Once this morning�s race had begun, on the timed �Special� middle stage of the Er Rachidia-Quarzaate trail, Gordon�s Hummer quickly began to demolish Schlesser�s time advantage for the race. �He had a solid 12 minutes on us at the start and we were seven cars back with two minutes spacing between us, so he had disappeared by the time we took to the course. Our Hummer was doing really well and we�d gained almost everything we�d lost when we began to realize that we had a serious transmission problem. A drive flange finally failed, which killed any chance of us taking the overall win.�
| mw1029h2 | 01-03-2006 11:14 PM |
I watched last year got the "Tivo" on season pass for the events, lets hope Robby learned his lession from last year in which he lead a few stages until he crashed after which he was relegate as a support vehicle to the female driver in the other team car. You can't win being arrogant. I watched out for the natives, its seems they always play a part ie. race car Jacking etc. By the was has anyone died yet that seems to happen every year. I wouldn't be out there unless it was a support vehicle. That has to be the most grueling race in the world.
| psg | 01-04-2006 12:34 AM |
[QUOTE=mw1029h2]I watched last year got the "Tivo" on season pass for the events, lets hope Robby learned his lession from last year in which he lead a few stages until he crashed after which he was relegate as a support vehicle to the female driver in the other team car. You can't win being arrogant. I watched out for the natives, its seems they always play a part ie. race car Jacking etc. By the was has anyone died yet that seems to happen every year. I wouldn't be out there unless it was a support vehicle. That has to be the most grueling race in the world.[/QUOTE]
How do you know that being arrogant caused Robby to crash last year? He hit an odd spot in the dunes, and went tumbling. Murphy's Law, it happens to the best drivers.
And besides, every race car driver is a little arrogant. You have to be, otherwise you'll never make it there to begin with. No one ever landed a ride by thinking they were so-so.
How do you know that being arrogant caused Robby to crash last year? He hit an odd spot in the dunes, and went tumbling. Murphy's Law, it happens to the best drivers.
And besides, every race car driver is a little arrogant. You have to be, otherwise you'll never make it there to begin with. No one ever landed a ride by thinking they were so-so.
| mw1029h2 | 01-04-2006 02:32 PM |
He under estimated the course and over estimated his abililty, I think he should have just stayed in the stop 10 at the beginning then made his move, additionally in the beginning he was talking like it was easy until he crashed.
| Jon Bogert | 01-04-2006 02:41 PM |
[quote]he was talking like it was easy until he crashed[/quote]There's confidence, which all racers must have. Then there's delusion, which Robby Gordon suffers from.
After Stage 1 (finished 14th): "I think we were top-10"
Before Stage 2: "We'll definitely get top-10"
After Stage 2 (finished 13th, then 14th overall): "That was a top-10 finish for sure. Great to break in to the top-10."
:lol:
After Stage 1 (finished 14th): "I think we were top-10"
Before Stage 2: "We'll definitely get top-10"
After Stage 2 (finished 13th, then 14th overall): "That was a top-10 finish for sure. Great to break in to the top-10."
:lol:
| leaknoil | 01-04-2006 03:21 PM |
Anything can happen in a Dakar.
He is moving back up though. Finished 19th on the days stage and moved up to 45th overall.
He is moving back up though. Finished 19th on the days stage and moved up to 45th overall.
| mw1029h2 | 01-04-2006 03:28 PM |
I think as long as he has the funding he'll return and try to win it because he is a bull dog. " once he gets a hold of something he doesn't let go"
| Jon Bogert | 01-04-2006 03:57 PM |
It must be great to break into the top 50.
My Tivo puked yesterday, so I didn't see his excellent Stage 3 performance. How's the Hummer holding up? Must've been tough to engineer out all that going-to-the-mall DNA and make it desert worthy.
My Tivo puked yesterday, so I didn't see his excellent Stage 3 performance. How's the Hummer holding up? Must've been tough to engineer out all that going-to-the-mall DNA and make it desert worthy.
| driggity | 01-04-2006 04:47 PM |
[QUOTE=Jon Bogert]Must've been tough to engineer out all that going-to-the-mall DNA and make it desert worthy.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that they had to engineer out much of anything from the grill and thats the only H3 DNA in the truck.
I don't think that they had to engineer out much of anything from the grill and thats the only H3 DNA in the truck.
| mw1029h2 | 01-04-2006 07:55 PM |
Robby didn't crash this year he had a mechanical failure he is over 4 hrs behind. WRC driver Carlos Sainz is doing his thing spanking the field.
| Jon Bogert | 01-04-2006 09:55 PM |
What happened to the commentator? They replaced the guy from the first couple of stages with someone who doesn't know anything about anything. Carlos [i]Say-nz[/i]?
| leaknoil | 01-04-2006 11:06 PM |
That was sooooooo bad. Lets make America look like a bunch of idiots why don't we
| evilnissan | 01-04-2006 11:54 PM |
I forgot about it and set the Tivo Season pass today.. just a day or two late.
| leaknoil | 01-05-2006 12:08 AM |
What was with the woman that popped on from time to time ? She looked like some housewife from a suburb somewhere. What's she doing in the middle of Africa ?
I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage.
I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage.
| ANZAC_1915 | 01-05-2006 01:51 AM |
[QUOTE=Jon Bogert]What happened to the commentator? They replaced the guy from the first couple of stages with someone who doesn't know anything about anything. Carlos [i]Say-nz[/i]?[/QUOTE]
Day-Kar.
Peeter-hansel.
I notice the same commentators got a bunch of complaints when OLN covered the Tour de France, for a) not knowing anything about the sport, b) not even being able to pronounce the competitor's names correctly.
Even Ralph Shaheen was better than this!
Day-Kar.
Peeter-hansel.
I notice the same commentators got a bunch of complaints when OLN covered the Tour de France, for a) not knowing anything about the sport, b) not even being able to pronounce the competitor's names correctly.
Even Ralph Shaheen was better than this!
| Bort | 01-05-2006 07:34 AM |
I'm warming up to the coverage. It was hard for me to let the little mistakes go at first, but now I'm used to it. The structure and content is pretty good.
On the first program the spelling on the graphics was hilarious. Chevrolet "Siwerado", Mitsubishi "Bajero", Cyril DeBres", etc.
On the first program the spelling on the graphics was hilarious. Chevrolet "Siwerado", Mitsubishi "Bajero", Cyril DeBres", etc.
| Bonzo | 01-05-2006 09:12 AM |
[QUOTE=leaknoil]What was with the woman that popped on from time to time ? She looked like some housewife from a suburb somewhere. What's she doing in the middle of Africa ?
I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage.[/QUOTE]
It may have been Kirsten Gum. She's been doing a lot of different intl sports reporting for many years. Most notably she does the Tour de France every year and really know her stuff abd does great work. Personally I like her and would like to personally interview her. :devil: :banana:
Robby is a Bull and a business man. He will be optomistic no matter what the circumstances. For not only his own will but also to keep the sponsors coming back and sticking with him. Robby is far from alone in both of these attributes when it comes to racers.
I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage.[/QUOTE]
It may have been Kirsten Gum. She's been doing a lot of different intl sports reporting for many years. Most notably she does the Tour de France every year and really know her stuff abd does great work. Personally I like her and would like to personally interview her. :devil: :banana:
Robby is a Bull and a business man. He will be optomistic no matter what the circumstances. For not only his own will but also to keep the sponsors coming back and sticking with him. Robby is far from alone in both of these attributes when it comes to racers.
| driggity | 01-05-2006 12:23 PM |
[QUOTE=Bonzo]It may have been Kirsten Gum.
[/QUOTE]
It was.
[/QUOTE]
It was.
| Jon Bogert | 01-05-2006 12:43 PM |
No complaints about Kirsten, she's doing color and that's fine. The bar is quite a bit higher for the narrator. It's not just his pronunciation--there were a couple of lines that were so awkward my jaw literally dropped. Something ending with "...that's why they call it a comeback" that was so bad you'd think Dave Coleman wrote it.
| leaknoil | 01-05-2006 01:45 PM |
Robby back up to 27th overall. Amazing how just finishing in the top 20 of a stage shoots you up the leader board. He finished 11th today. Lot of race left. I'd say finishing in the top ten is a strong possibility.
| leaknoil | 01-06-2006 12:36 PM |
Today seems to be the first real nasty Dakar stage. Everyone is gettting stuck bad. Sainz lost 30'. Gordon must have got stuck out there too if his checkpoint times are right.
| dakwrx | 01-06-2006 01:40 PM |
kirsten gum is hot :devil:
the rally coverage is good too
the rally coverage is good too
| Dr. WOT | 01-06-2006 02:41 PM |
Gum is a cutie, "the last great adventure..."
The American color guy is bad, I'd like to have the English guy back, but I refuse to slag off the coverage, something is better than nothing. "I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage." ??? Can't you just watch the Euro coverage anyway?
Mike Miller is going quite well, so we have another American in the race. VW is kicking ass. Go Carlos!!
The American color guy is bad, I'd like to have the English guy back, but I refuse to slag off the coverage, something is better than nothing. "I really hope OLN doesn't start doing WRC. I'd rather just download the European coverage." ??? Can't you just watch the Euro coverage anyway?
Mike Miller is going quite well, so we have another American in the race. VW is kicking ass. Go Carlos!!
| leaknoil | 01-06-2006 02:50 PM |
I don't think bad coverage helps anything. Anything is not always better then nothing. The idea is to expand the sport here not turn away new fans by showing some guy from Jersey saying, "That 'Say-nez' is one radical dude!'
| Dr. WOT | 01-06-2006 03:07 PM |
Out of site out of mind. How are you going to expand the sport if the guy from Jersey doesn't know it exists? Half of Jersey speaks Spanish anyway.... ;)
I see the point you're making but I don't agree, only seasoned rally-nerds like us are turned off by this sort of thing.
I see the point you're making but I don't agree, only seasoned rally-nerds like us are turned off by this sort of thing.
| leaknoil | 01-06-2006 03:56 PM |
Looks like Gordon crashed. He's almost 6 hours off the leader at cp2. [url]http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_606.shtml[/url]
| Howl | 01-06-2006 03:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]Out of site out of mind. How are you going to expand the sport if the guy from Jersey doesn't know it exists? Half of Jersey speaks Spanish anyway.... ;)
I see the point you're making but I don't agree, only seasoned rally-nerds like us are turned off by this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about that. I got interested in the Dakar back in the mid-eighties when I was in high-school (before many of you were born I suspect). There was no real TV coverage back then, maybe an hour special sometime in the spring, and no internet for immediate results. But everyone knew about the Dakar. Like the Cannonball, or Lemans or The Isle on Man TT races, it was one of the great autosport events. Even my mother knows about those races.
What people don't know is that many of the competitors in the Dakar don't just sit around all year waiting for the big event. There is a series sanctioned by the FIA called the Cross-country Rally World Cup that includes a number of similar events (none as long as the Dakar though). Saby, Peterhansel, De Villiers, Kleindschmidt and Schlesser are all regular competitors. Everyone knows about the Dakar, but how many people know of the Rallye d'Orient or the UAE Desert Challenge
[URL=http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/Secondary/2005/cross.html]http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/Secondary/2005/cross.html[/URL]
I see the point you're making but I don't agree, only seasoned rally-nerds like us are turned off by this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about that. I got interested in the Dakar back in the mid-eighties when I was in high-school (before many of you were born I suspect). There was no real TV coverage back then, maybe an hour special sometime in the spring, and no internet for immediate results. But everyone knew about the Dakar. Like the Cannonball, or Lemans or The Isle on Man TT races, it was one of the great autosport events. Even my mother knows about those races.
What people don't know is that many of the competitors in the Dakar don't just sit around all year waiting for the big event. There is a series sanctioned by the FIA called the Cross-country Rally World Cup that includes a number of similar events (none as long as the Dakar though). Saby, Peterhansel, De Villiers, Kleindschmidt and Schlesser are all regular competitors. Everyone knows about the Dakar, but how many people know of the Rallye d'Orient or the UAE Desert Challenge
[URL=http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/Secondary/2005/cross.html]http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/Secondary/2005/cross.html[/URL]
| leaknoil | 01-06-2006 05:06 PM |
Its hard to cover cross country events. We're lucky to get to watch Dakar even. It takes a small of army of helicopters, planes, and people to cover stuff like this. I'm not sure they could afford to do this more then once a year. Cross country will never be much of a TV sport.
| leaknoil | 01-07-2006 07:27 PM |
Looks like Robby is done. They didn't make the start time. Too bad. I was really hoping they would do well. It could have only helped sponsorship and coverage in the US. Lets hope Hummer is still into it for next year.
I'll have to cheer for Miller now even though he's in a VW.
I'll have to cheer for Miller now even though he's in a VW.
| skuttledude | 01-09-2006 09:17 AM |
Tragic news at Dakar stage 9. I'm not goping to put in a spolier...just watch stage 9 on OLN today/tonight. :(
| Jon Bogert | 01-09-2006 10:22 AM |
Or check dakar.com.
Dakar handles tragedies like that better than any other motorsport event. No arm-waving, sobbing, event-cancelling nonsense like in other forms of racing/rallying. Yet somehow they achieve a far greater level of respect and mourning within the event for those affected. Kudos to them.
Dakar handles tragedies like that better than any other motorsport event. No arm-waving, sobbing, event-cancelling nonsense like in other forms of racing/rallying. Yet somehow they achieve a far greater level of respect and mourning within the event for those affected. Kudos to them.
| Bonzo | 01-09-2006 11:03 AM |
:( I just saw the news on [url]www.cyclenews.com[/url]
| Howl | 01-09-2006 11:08 AM |
Competing in Dakar is like climbing Mount Everest. Death is a constant companion.
| leaknoil | 01-09-2006 12:31 PM |
It's prehaps the strangest thing about the Dakar race to me. An officially sanctioned event where you pretty much expect to have at least one person die every year and sometimes more then one. I don't think they would let the event stick around in WRC or F1 for long if it happened there.
| feropont | 01-10-2006 10:04 PM |
[url]http://www.livejournal.com/users/aleksey3/89765.html[/url] nice fotos from Dakar
| leaknoil | 01-14-2006 04:37 PM |
Another 12yo boy was killed today. This time by an assitance vehicle. They've cancelled the last day stage. I wonder what this will mean for the future of the event. They really need to get saftey under control even it means a less exciting race. Way too many deaths every year and when kids start dying it's even worse.
| Jon Bogert | 01-14-2006 09:48 PM |
If only there was some way they could just run the whole Dakar event in a stadium. That way the drivers would be safer [i]and[/i] the fans would be safer. Basically no downside.
| leaknoil | 01-15-2006 05:49 AM |
They weren't fans. They were kids that got killed when some race ran thru their town. Screw it lets run an off road race thru the middle of Cleveland. Some little blonde 12 year old white girl gets killed and lets see how long the race continues. As long as it's only kids in Africa dying who the hell cares. Lets race !!1111
| Howl | 01-15-2006 09:53 AM |
[QUOTE=Jon Bogert]If only there was some way they could just run the whole Dakar event in a stadium. That way the drivers would be safer [i]and[/i] the fans would be safer. Basically no downside.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're joking right. The whole basis of this type of race is real roads (and in this case - real off-roads as well). Putting it in a staduim or a track would turn it into NASCAR. Nobody wants to see that.
I hope you're joking right. The whole basis of this type of race is real roads (and in this case - real off-roads as well). Putting it in a staduim or a track would turn it into NASCAR. Nobody wants to see that.
| Howl | 01-15-2006 12:51 PM |
[QUOTE=leaknoil]They weren't fans. They were kids that got killed when some race ran thru their town. Screw it lets run an off road race thru the middle of Cleveland. Some little blonde 12 year old white girl gets killed and lets see how long the race continues. As long as it's only kids in Africa dying who the hell cares. Lets race !!1111[/QUOTE]
They weren't fans and they weren't killed by competitors. They were killed in accident involving a support vehicle. This may not have even been on or anywhere near the competitor's route. There would have been nothing the organizers could have done to prevent this accident. Just like there is no way you can prevent someone in Cleveland getting killed in a traffic accident. The Dakar's official web site not only mentions their names (Boubacar Diallo and Mohamed N�Daw) but puts them on an equal billing with Andy Caldecott so making the assumption that no one cares because they were African is just wrong. Your assumption says more about YOUR prejudices than anyone elses.
They weren't fans and they weren't killed by competitors. They were killed in accident involving a support vehicle. This may not have even been on or anywhere near the competitor's route. There would have been nothing the organizers could have done to prevent this accident. Just like there is no way you can prevent someone in Cleveland getting killed in a traffic accident. The Dakar's official web site not only mentions their names (Boubacar Diallo and Mohamed N�Daw) but puts them on an equal billing with Andy Caldecott so making the assumption that no one cares because they were African is just wrong. Your assumption says more about YOUR prejudices than anyone elses.
| dakwrx | 01-15-2006 03:12 PM |
I have been following the Dakar coverage on OLN very closely, DVR'ing everything. Last night I was watching the first of the one-hour programs with my wife (just a casual rally fan) and we were marvelling at the outstanding coverage.
Just think of the logistics involved in having so many helicopters in the air and camera men on the ground over 6000miles! The costs involved must be incredible, and yet, as far as I can see, there doesn't seem to be any company overtly sponsoring anything!
After all, it is not being referred to as the "Goodyear, Tide, Viagra, Nextel Dakar" :lol:
The coverage isn't even heavily American competitor biased, with alot of coverage given to drivers/riders from all over the world. Truly excellent.
Please, OLN........ bring similar coverage to the WRC this year!!!
(and Kirsten Gum is hot ;) )
Just think of the logistics involved in having so many helicopters in the air and camera men on the ground over 6000miles! The costs involved must be incredible, and yet, as far as I can see, there doesn't seem to be any company overtly sponsoring anything!
After all, it is not being referred to as the "Goodyear, Tide, Viagra, Nextel Dakar" :lol:
The coverage isn't even heavily American competitor biased, with alot of coverage given to drivers/riders from all over the world. Truly excellent.
Please, OLN........ bring similar coverage to the WRC this year!!!
(and Kirsten Gum is hot ;) )
| Jon Bogert | 01-15-2006 03:52 PM |
Of course I'm joking.
There will always be a faction--generally dominated by lawyers and housewives whose main source of information is skimming magazines in supermarket checkout lines--who say things like, "Even ONE innocent life saved is worth ANY price, is worth ANY compromise."
Of course that's not true. Accidents happen. People die. How many children died within 500 miles of the Daker route from other causes? How many [i]didn't[/i] die because they spent the day watching the rally? Nobody knows. You never know. It's an accident. Get over it.
There will always be a faction--generally dominated by lawyers and housewives whose main source of information is skimming magazines in supermarket checkout lines--who say things like, "Even ONE innocent life saved is worth ANY price, is worth ANY compromise."
Of course that's not true. Accidents happen. People die. How many children died within 500 miles of the Daker route from other causes? How many [i]didn't[/i] die because they spent the day watching the rally? Nobody knows. You never know. It's an accident. Get over it.
| leaknoil | 01-15-2006 04:35 PM |
[QUOTE=Howl]They weren't fans and they weren't killed by competitors. They were killed in accident involving a support vehicle. This may not have even been on or anywhere near the competitor's route. There would have been nothing the organizers could have done to prevent this accident. Just like there is no way you can prevent someone in Cleveland getting killed in a traffic accident. The Dakar's official web site not only mentions their names (Boubacar Diallo and Mohamed N�Daw) but puts them on an equal billing with Andy Caldecott so making the assumption that no one cares because they were African is just wrong. Your assumption says more about YOUR prejudices than anyone elses.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the first child was killed by a competitor just to get the facts straight. He was killed by car 420.
These people don't have any choice if the Dakar runs thru their villages. Its not like there are tourist dollars to be had. Really nothing in it for them other then the chance for accidents.
You shouldn't claim to know my prejudices. You obviously don't.
If you want to dispute that if a similar race was run outside of Cleveland and some little girl from the suburbs accidently got run over there would huge public outcry and hell to deal with then go ahead. I'm not sure getting their names posted to the Dakar website probably means much to their families.
Actually, the first child was killed by a competitor just to get the facts straight. He was killed by car 420.
These people don't have any choice if the Dakar runs thru their villages. Its not like there are tourist dollars to be had. Really nothing in it for them other then the chance for accidents.
You shouldn't claim to know my prejudices. You obviously don't.
If you want to dispute that if a similar race was run outside of Cleveland and some little girl from the suburbs accidently got run over there would huge public outcry and hell to deal with then go ahead. I'm not sure getting their names posted to the Dakar website probably means much to their families.
| feropont | 01-15-2006 07:55 PM |
So you would rather cancel historical Dakar race? And banish forever? You know that founder of this race was killed in helicopter accident during the race? And race is still going on.
| leaknoil | 01-15-2006 08:43 PM |
I would hate to see it cancelled. Thats why it needs to change. Lots of 'historic' events don't happen anymore because they couldn't be made safe.
Dakar continuing in a form where nobody died would be a lot better to me then one where you expect people to die. Even if it meant it wasn't as exciting.
How many lives is a motorsport event worth ? 1, 5, 100 ? At some point you have to say it isn't worth it. Dakar has cost a mess of lives . It's a great event but, at some point you have to look at the human costs. The families left behind when dad went off to race in the desert at 40 when he probably shouldn't have been.
The organizers do what they can but, it's just become too big for its own good.
Dakar continuing in a form where nobody died would be a lot better to me then one where you expect people to die. Even if it meant it wasn't as exciting.
How many lives is a motorsport event worth ? 1, 5, 100 ? At some point you have to say it isn't worth it. Dakar has cost a mess of lives . It's a great event but, at some point you have to look at the human costs. The families left behind when dad went off to race in the desert at 40 when he probably shouldn't have been.
The organizers do what they can but, it's just become too big for its own good.
| feropont | 01-15-2006 09:45 PM |
Latvien racing team car run over a kid when he was crossing a road after he come over with his parents to see a race from near by village. Helicopter took child to hospital by he was pronounced dead before arriving to a hospital.
| Nanners | 01-17-2006 10:10 PM |
I again enjoyed watching all 15 stages of this years Dakar. It is regrettable that two spectators were killed at this years race and while I feel sad for Andy's kids & wife, at least he knew what he was getting into. For the Dakar to continue as it has in the past the organisers will have to combat this problem. The amount of spectators this year was staggering. Let's hope they can find a solution that makes this form of motorsport safer for both competitors and spectators.
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