| gbwrx | 07-28-2006 09:50 PM |
Just FYI for anyone that is now looking for a WL bar. I ordered one from Gruppe-S and they said it would be in August sometime before it would be available and shipped.
| Chiketkd | 07-28-2006 10:02 PM |
Congrats! Glad you're back in the swing of things Andrew!
| BlueSTI4Me | 07-28-2006 10:58 PM |
[QUOTE=gbwrx]Just FYI for anyone that is now looking for a WL bar. I ordered one from Gruppe-S and they said it would be in August sometime before it would be available and shipped.[/QUOTE]
Most of you know what I'd like to say about ^^^....where have you been, bro? Old news to us.
Most of you know what I'd like to say about ^^^....where have you been, bro? Old news to us.
| AndrewSS | 07-29-2006 01:50 AM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd]Congrats! Glad you're back in the swing of things Andrew![/QUOTE]
Thanks, and same here!
Thanks, and same here!
| gbwrx | 07-29-2006 09:54 AM |
[QUOTE=BlueSTI4Me]Most of you know what I'd like to say about ^^^....where have you been, bro? Old news to us.[/QUOTE]
Sorry...I sure didn't feel like reading all 20 some odd pages.
Edit - Doh, now I see on the first post of this page.
Sorry...I sure didn't feel like reading all 20 some odd pages.
Edit - Doh, now I see on the first post of this page.
| stretchsje | 09-07-2006 03:02 PM |
I hate to bump this thread, but it sounds like all the Strano problems can be fixed with a few washers:
- A few washers to lower the sway bar bushing mounts (or file down the steering rack bolt) on 2005+ STI's
- A few washers to act as a spacer between the endlink bushings, effectively making the endlinks longer (to prevent bar from hitting control arm)
Would that not do it? I bought a Strano bar used for real cheap (probably cheap as a result of this thread), and it's going to be installed soon. I'm going to keep a close eye on it, as I'll be running a similar setup to AndrewSS, and I don't want to share his fate!
- A few washers to lower the sway bar bushing mounts (or file down the steering rack bolt) on 2005+ STI's
- A few washers to act as a spacer between the endlink bushings, effectively making the endlinks longer (to prevent bar from hitting control arm)
Would that not do it? I bought a Strano bar used for real cheap (probably cheap as a result of this thread), and it's going to be installed soon. I'm going to keep a close eye on it, as I'll be running a similar setup to AndrewSS, and I don't want to share his fate!
| z3coupe | 09-08-2006 04:14 AM |
Well, if anyone else wants to buy a Strano bar, I still have mine for sale. Sold the STi as well, and got a GTI with DSG. Will be keeping it stock for awhile this time :)
Funny too, it seems there is a mass migration of STi's for GTI's on the VW forums. AT least 6 I have seen in 2 weeks.
Funny too, it seems there is a mass migration of STi's for GTI's on the VW forums. AT least 6 I have seen in 2 weeks.
| subieworx | 09-08-2006 08:53 AM |
They are nice cars, but I wouldn't want to own one for longer than 3 years.
| The_Wolf | 09-08-2006 11:40 AM |
[QUOTE=z3coupe;15171164]
Funny too, it seems there is a mass migration of STi's for GTI's on the VW forums. AT least 6 I have seen in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]
the migration of vw to subie is greater though...I am one of them and personally know a bunch of others.
As for the sway bar...I am running the Strano bar...stock suspension and 275 v710's. I have at least 50 runs on this setup and have no problems yet. I called Strano awhile back and there was a rumor of updated endlink brackets, but haven't heard anything since.
Funny too, it seems there is a mass migration of STi's for GTI's on the VW forums. AT least 6 I have seen in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]
the migration of vw to subie is greater though...I am one of them and personally know a bunch of others.
As for the sway bar...I am running the Strano bar...stock suspension and 275 v710's. I have at least 50 runs on this setup and have no problems yet. I called Strano awhile back and there was a rumor of updated endlink brackets, but haven't heard anything since.
| Aaron B | 09-08-2006 12:41 PM |
Well, I FINALLY got around to ordering up a set of female rod ends. I'm going to try setting up the bar with the rod ends mounted up to the control arms using the spacers from the Perrin front end links I used to use and a 10mm bolt going up through the bar with the poly bushings on both sides. It looks like a 10mm bolt should fit through the bar and bushings in place of the 5/16" bolt that comes with it. If not, well, at least I ordered up the cheap self lubricating rod ends instead of the expensive teflon lined ones...
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)
| silver arrow | 09-08-2006 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE=Aaron B;15175062]Well, I FINALLY got around to ordering up a set of female rod ends. I'm going to try setting up the bar with the rod ends mounted up to the control arms using the spacers from the Perrin front end links I used to use and a 10mm bolt going up through the bar with the poly bushings on both sides. It looks like a 10mm bolt should fit through the bar and bushings in place of the 5/16" bolt that comes with it. If not, well, at least I ordered up the cheap self lubricating rod ends instead of the expensive teflon lined ones...
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)[/QUOTE]
Post up pics and more details on the parts if it works. :banana:
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)[/QUOTE]
Post up pics and more details on the parts if it works. :banana:
| KC | 09-08-2006 01:57 PM |
Hey Sam, all is not lost. The '07 WRX (non-STi) goes back to a steel a-arm away from aluminum.
--KC
--KC
| wm07 | 09-08-2006 02:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Aaron B;15175062]Well, I FINALLY got around to ordering up a set of female rod ends. I'm going to try setting up the bar with the rod ends mounted up to the control arms using the spacers from the Perrin front end links I used to use and a 10mm bolt going up through the bar with the poly bushings on both sides. It looks like a 10mm bolt should fit through the bar and bushings in place of the 5/16" bolt that comes with it. If not, well, at least I ordered up the cheap self lubricating rod ends instead of the expensive teflon lined ones...
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)[/QUOTE]
You mean something like this? :D
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4994/endlinkth2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Notice the rubbage on the bar.
Basically it will go as follows
Rod end
jam nut
washer
poly bushing
Stano bar
poly bushing
washer
bolt going up through it all
Hopefully the rod end will relieve the twisting force on the control arm tab that the Stano configuration creates as well as keeping the ends of the bar from contacting the funky adapter bracket, which of course would no longer be needed.
If it all fits together, anyone that will be at Nationals can feel free to come over and take a peek :)[/QUOTE]
You mean something like this? :D
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4994/endlinkth2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Notice the rubbage on the bar.
| Aaron B | 09-08-2006 03:00 PM |
EXACTLY like that :p
| silver arrow | 09-08-2006 06:12 PM |
[QUOTE=wm07;15176443]You mean something like this? :D
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4994/endlinkth2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Notice the rubbage on the bar.[/QUOTE]
Give details and part numbers when possible, such as the bushings please. :banana:
Rubbage from before the fix or since? What size tires?
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4994/endlinkth2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Notice the rubbage on the bar.[/QUOTE]
Give details and part numbers when possible, such as the bushings please. :banana:
Rubbage from before the fix or since? What size tires?
| Aaron B | 09-09-2006 12:34 AM |
Parts needed are all listed in my post a couple posts up. You could use the washers and bushings included with the bar, although the washers [i]may[/i] need to be drilled a bit to get a 10mm bolt through (ever so slightly larger than the 5/16" bolt in the Strano kit) At that point all you need is a 10mm female rod end. I found mine through McMaster-Carr, but I'm sure there's several other places you could find them, just gotta search.
As for the rubbing, I'm not sure what size tires wm07 is using, but my 235's rub a bit at full lock, but the only time you're gonna see that at an autocross is maneuvering around grid/paddock. Well, that or if it's a super, hella tight course, which a course that tight wouldn't be any fun anyway.
As for the rubbing, I'm not sure what size tires wm07 is using, but my 235's rub a bit at full lock, but the only time you're gonna see that at an autocross is maneuvering around grid/paddock. Well, that or if it's a super, hella tight course, which a course that tight wouldn't be any fun anyway.
| rx4bills | 09-09-2006 12:36 AM |
Will be interesting to see if any reports of breaking a-arm tabs occurs with this design. My concern would be the "leverage" action that the a-arm tab is subjected to by the rod end being spaced away from the tab. Ideally, the rod ends would be right up against the a-arm tab to better distribute the vertical forces. I agree the twisting forces by the Strano endlink setup are avoided. Think about the stresses that hitting a pothole or bump with only one front wheel would create. I still think the Strano bar can be saved with a redesign of the endlink attachment, just need to play with a few more designs. Otherwise, the Whiteline FSB is a nice alternative.
| silver arrow | 09-09-2006 01:06 AM |
[QUOTE=Aaron B;15182570]Parts needed are all listed in my post a couple posts up. You could use the washers and bushings included with the bar, although the washers [i]may[/i] need to be drilled a bit to get a 10mm bolt through (ever so slightly larger than the 5/16" bolt in the Strano kit) At that point all you need is a 10mm female rod end. I found mine through McMaster-Carr, but I'm sure there's several other places you could find them, just gotta search.
As for the rubbing, I'm not sure what size tires wm07 is using, but my 235's rub a bit at full lock, but the only time you're gonna see that at an autocross is maneuvering around grid/paddock. Well, that or if it's a super, hella tight course, which a course that tight wouldn't be any fun anyway.[/QUOTE]
What application are the bushings for and where did you get them? What length rod end and bolt?
As for the rubbing, I'm not sure what size tires wm07 is using, but my 235's rub a bit at full lock, but the only time you're gonna see that at an autocross is maneuvering around grid/paddock. Well, that or if it's a super, hella tight course, which a course that tight wouldn't be any fun anyway.[/QUOTE]
What application are the bushings for and where did you get them? What length rod end and bolt?
| silentbob343 | 09-09-2006 01:35 AM |
[QUOTE=silver arrow;15182773]What application are the bushings for and where did you get them? What length rod end and bolt?[/QUOTE]
looks like Energy Suspension bushings, you can find ES parts at most any auto parts store.
looks like Energy Suspension bushings, you can find ES parts at most any auto parts store.
| wm07 | 09-09-2006 02:27 AM |
Yes, they are Energy Suspension bushings. about $12 for a pack, I also got the female rod end from McMaster-Carr, don't really remember what size, sorry.
As for the leverage, yea, I kind of worry about that too, but we will see. I have about 15 runs on this setup so far, no signs of breakage yet, other than more noises, no complain here. oh, remember to put washers at the a-arm tabs too, that will help on the strength of the tab since it seems really weak...
I am running 245-45-17 RT615 now, and the wheels are 17x8.5 +48. I think the rubbage are from street driving, I need to make a U-turn everytime I go to work. I don't remember any rubbing from autox though.
As for the leverage, yea, I kind of worry about that too, but we will see. I have about 15 runs on this setup so far, no signs of breakage yet, other than more noises, no complain here. oh, remember to put washers at the a-arm tabs too, that will help on the strength of the tab since it seems really weak...
I am running 245-45-17 RT615 now, and the wheels are 17x8.5 +48. I think the rubbage are from street driving, I need to make a U-turn everytime I go to work. I don't remember any rubbing from autox though.
| Aaron B | 09-09-2006 09:32 AM |
[QUOTE=wm07;15183151] I also got the female rod end from McMaster-Carr, don't really remember what size, sorry.[/QUOTE]
They only have two female rod ends with a 10mm bore, both also use 10mm x 70mm threads. All dimensions can be found in the schematics on their site.
I wouldn't worry about the rod end being spaced off the tab too much. The spherical bearing equipped aftermarket front end links use spacers also, although not spaced quite as far.
They only have two female rod ends with a 10mm bore, both also use 10mm x 70mm threads. All dimensions can be found in the schematics on their site.
I wouldn't worry about the rod end being spaced off the tab too much. The spherical bearing equipped aftermarket front end links use spacers also, although not spaced quite as far.
| SharkWagon | 09-19-2006 12:20 PM |
[QUOTE=subieworx;15171877]They are nice cars, but I wouldn't want to own one for longer than 3 years.[/QUOTE]
The STi or the GTI? :eek:
The STi or the GTI? :eek:
| BrianGT | 05-15-2007 09:03 AM |
(bringing this thread back from the dead, as it has lots of useful info)
My wife's car finally broke:
[URL="http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-r.jpg"][img]http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-rs.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL="http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-r.jpg"](click for larger)[/URL]
I thought that she was special, as it lasted quite a while.. but I guess not.
I am wondering if it is best to go back to the whiteline bar, or try to get some sort of new end link solution..
--
Brian
My wife's car finally broke:
[URL="http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-r.jpg"][img]http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-rs.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL="http://tastybeef.com/sti/lca-r.jpg"](click for larger)[/URL]
I thought that she was special, as it lasted quite a while.. but I guess not.
I am wondering if it is best to go back to the whiteline bar, or try to get some sort of new end link solution..
--
Brian
| Impreza01 | 05-15-2007 09:20 AM |
BrianGT: I'm assuming your wife's car is the 2005MY STI. Do you mind sharing the suspension setup?
| BrianGT | 05-15-2007 10:11 AM |
[QUOTE=Impreza01;18075181]BrianGT: I'm assuming your wife's car is the 2005MY STI. Do you mind sharing the suspension setup?[/QUOTE]
She has it setup for A-stock autocross class, so all it has is the strano bar, Ohlins fixed perch struts, and maxed out front negative camber (-1.1 degrees)
She refuses to go back to the whiteline bar, so I guess that I need to stock up on control arms...
--
Brian
She has it setup for A-stock autocross class, so all it has is the strano bar, Ohlins fixed perch struts, and maxed out front negative camber (-1.1 degrees)
She refuses to go back to the whiteline bar, so I guess that I need to stock up on control arms...
--
Brian
| sciolist | 05-15-2007 11:36 AM |
If you're sticking with the Addco mount, one thing you might do is take a look at the relationship between the bracket and the mounting tab on the control arm. On mine, the relatively sharp outside corner of the bracket appeared to be concentrating quite a bit of stress on the radiused inside corner of the tab. A little work with the grinder will clean that situation up nicely.
This problem may just be endemic for those with AS springs, though.
[QUOTE=BrianGT;18075712]She has it setup for A-stock autocross class, so all it has is the strano bar, Ohlins fixed perch struts, and maxed out front negative camber (-1.1 degrees)
She refuses to go back to the whiteline bar, so I guess that I need to stock up on control arms...
--
Brian[/QUOTE]
This problem may just be endemic for those with AS springs, though.
[QUOTE=BrianGT;18075712]She has it setup for A-stock autocross class, so all it has is the strano bar, Ohlins fixed perch struts, and maxed out front negative camber (-1.1 degrees)
She refuses to go back to the whiteline bar, so I guess that I need to stock up on control arms...
--
Brian[/QUOTE]
| silver arrow | 05-15-2007 01:07 PM |
If you have looked through the thread there are some better mounting options for the Adco bar that will put less stress on the suspension mounting tabs.
| Chiketkd | 05-15-2007 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=BrianGT;18075712]She refuses to go back to the whiteline bar, so I guess that I need to stock up on control arms...[/QUOTE]
Why? Did you previously have the 27/29mm Whiteline bar on the car? They say the Strano bar is effectively only 29.2mm, so she'll have a pretty sensitive butt dyno if she can feel the difference between the two...
Why? Did you previously have the 27/29mm Whiteline bar on the car? They say the Strano bar is effectively only 29.2mm, so she'll have a pretty sensitive butt dyno if she can feel the difference between the two...
| Nis01 | 05-15-2007 01:30 PM |
I've run both bars on the front and there is quite a different feel between both bars but mainly I account this to the different endlink setups and the Strano being pretty much directly attached to the control arm. In all honesty I personally liked the slightly "less connected" feel of the Whiteline bar, the Strano was very twitchy and difficult to drive smoothly through a corner (I also don't like breaking expensive parts). Anyways, I'm with Chike in wondering why the Whiteline isn't a possible alternative?
| drees | 05-15-2007 02:13 PM |
[QUOTE=BrianGT;18075055]My wife's car finally broke:[/QUOTE]Pretty easy to see why it broke looking at the pictures. You're getting metal on metal contact between the bracket bolted to the swaybar and the swaybar.
| silver arrow | 05-15-2007 04:42 PM |
[QUOTE=drees;18079069]Pretty easy to see why it broke looking at the pictures. You're getting metal on metal contact between the bracket bolted to the swaybar and the swaybar.[/QUOTE]
All the Strano/Addco's do. That's why people have been modifying the endlinks.
All the Strano/Addco's do. That's why people have been modifying the endlinks.
| maxQ | 05-15-2007 05:14 PM |
[QUOTE=silver arrow;18081068]All the Strano/Addco's do. That's why people have been modifying the endlinks.[/QUOTE]
Adding a third bushing inbetween the bar and the bracket did the trick for me. $1 mod.
Adding a third bushing inbetween the bar and the bracket did the trick for me. $1 mod.
| AndrewSS | 08-20-2007 02:29 PM |
Ok, well screw modifying the strano bar... I had a custom fsb made for myself... check it out:
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1895.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1894.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1893.jpg[/IMG]
Thats 1 and 1/4" thick (31.75mm) solid bar.... bent like stock which is key.
What you guys think? Let me know via pm if anyone wants more information about it...
-andrew
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1895.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1894.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1893.jpg[/IMG]
Thats 1 and 1/4" thick (31.75mm) solid bar.... bent like stock which is key.
What you guys think? Let me know via pm if anyone wants more information about it...
-andrew
| 10th Warrior | 08-20-2007 02:39 PM |
Looks pretty neat :cool:
| Sideshowbob | 08-20-2007 03:02 PM |
Wow, 31mm, needs it's own thread.
| BrianGT | 08-20-2007 03:06 PM |
how much does that bastard weigh?
| AndrewSS | 08-20-2007 03:34 PM |
^ heh like 25lbs or so?
| crystalhelix | 08-20-2007 04:20 PM |
HOLY ****! Nice_Andrew! I'd want more detail but I'd rather you tell me if you control arms snap at some point, lol....keep us updated pretty please!
| waktasz | 08-20-2007 04:28 PM |
Interesting...
| Aaron B | 08-20-2007 06:14 PM |
very interesting...
| AndrewSS | 08-20-2007 08:39 PM |
Heh, justin... I sure hope that doesnt happen. I already lost one control arm to the strano bar... heh
But really, this design seems like it should workout well. I suppose I would be a bit worried if I was an AS car, however the bar is bent like stock so it should workout pretty well.
I really dont want to cross any lines but here is a link to perhaps a bit more information... [url]http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95566[/url]
But really, this design seems like it should workout well. I suppose I would be a bit worried if I was an AS car, however the bar is bent like stock so it should workout pretty well.
I really dont want to cross any lines but here is a link to perhaps a bit more information... [url]http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95566[/url]
| BrianGT | 08-27-2007 02:00 PM |
I made some new endlinks for the strano bar from the whiteline ones I bought for my 27mm bar that I am going to replace the whiteline bar. They seem to work good so far, and you can make them easily with off the shelf parts:
[img]http://www.briangt.com/gallery/albums/sti/endlinks.sized.jpg[/img]
It just takes picking up a set of KLC39 whiteline endlinks, and the energy bushings pack, which includes bushings and washers. It is basically the same thing as the earlier ones in the thread :)
[img]http://www.briangt.com/gallery/albums/sti/endlinks.sized.jpg[/img]
It just takes picking up a set of KLC39 whiteline endlinks, and the energy bushings pack, which includes bushings and washers. It is basically the same thing as the earlier ones in the thread :)
| Chiketkd | 09-06-2007 11:19 AM |
[QUOTE=AndrewSS;19105331]Ok, well screw modifying the strano bar... I had a custom fsb made for myself... check it out:
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1895.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1894.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1893.jpg[/IMG]
Thats 1 and 1/4" thick (31.75mm) solid bar.... bent like stock which is key.
What you guys think? Let me know via pm if anyone wants more information about it...
-andrew[/QUOTE]
Andrew,
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as aluminum?
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1895.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1894.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/bulletshell13/DSCN1893.jpg[/IMG]
Thats 1 and 1/4" thick (31.75mm) solid bar.... bent like stock which is key.
What you guys think? Let me know via pm if anyone wants more information about it...
-andrew[/QUOTE]
Andrew,
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as aluminum?
| VpointVick | 09-06-2007 11:26 AM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;19285215]Andrew,
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as [B]aluminum[/B]?[/QUOTE]
Aluminum is not a particularly good material choice for something that needs to bend or flex.;)
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as [B]aluminum[/B]?[/QUOTE]
Aluminum is not a particularly good material choice for something that needs to bend or flex.;)
| Chiketkd | 09-06-2007 11:35 AM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick;19285314]Aluminum is not a particularly good material choice for something that needs to bend or flex.;)[/QUOTE]
My current whiteline 27/29mm bar is made of aluminum and I've had no issues with it. I'd take a 10-12lb aluminum bar over a 25lb steel bar anyday. ;)
My current whiteline 27/29mm bar is made of aluminum and I've had no issues with it. I'd take a 10-12lb aluminum bar over a 25lb steel bar anyday. ;)
| AndrewSS | 09-06-2007 12:13 PM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;19285215]Andrew,
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as aluminum?[/QUOTE]
Probably not, we get quality pretreated steel and treat it after its bent too. The 32mm will remain solid too. Sorry.
Is there anyway that a hollow version of this bar could be made? Or can the be made out of a lighter metal such as aluminum?[/QUOTE]
Probably not, we get quality pretreated steel and treat it after its bent too. The 32mm will remain solid too. Sorry.
| VpointVick | 09-06-2007 12:15 PM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;19285451]My current whiteline 27/29mm bar is made of aluminum and I've had no issues with it. I'd take a 10-12lb aluminum bar over a 25lb steel bar anyday. ;)[/QUOTE]
Part # or link, please.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but no amount of Googling could come up with an aluminum sway bar for [I]any[/I] car.
Part # or link, please.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but no amount of Googling could come up with an aluminum sway bar for [I]any[/I] car.
| Draken | 09-06-2007 01:15 PM |
The Whiteline bar is not aluminum. Period.
Your 27/29 solid Whiteline bar is equivalent to a 32 hollow, (actually, Sam's bar is really 1-1/4" which is slightly less than 31.75mm) so what's the point of the upgrade?
Chris H.
Your 27/29 solid Whiteline bar is equivalent to a 32 hollow, (actually, Sam's bar is really 1-1/4" which is slightly less than 31.75mm) so what's the point of the upgrade?
Chris H.
| Sideshowbob | 09-06-2007 01:17 PM |
I want a 40mm hollow! :lol:
No bushings required- barely fits in mounts.
No bushings required- barely fits in mounts.
| Chiketkd | 09-06-2007 01:45 PM |
[QUOTE=Draken;19286812]The Whiteline bar is not aluminum. Period.
Your 27/29 solid Whiteline bar is equivalent to a 32 hollow, (actually, Sam's bar is really 1-1/4" which is slightly less than 31.75mm) so what's the point of the upgrade?
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
Are you 100% sure? I know I was told by quite a few vendors that the price of the Whiteline swaybars went up (about 1 yr ago) due to an increase in the price of aluminum worldwide.
Guess I was lied to! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your 27/29 solid Whiteline bar is equivalent to a 32 hollow, (actually, Sam's bar is really 1-1/4" which is slightly less than 31.75mm) so what's the point of the upgrade?
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
Are you 100% sure? I know I was told by quite a few vendors that the price of the Whiteline swaybars went up (about 1 yr ago) due to an increase in the price of aluminum worldwide.
Guess I was lied to! :lol: :lol: :lol:
| Chiketkd | 09-06-2007 01:51 PM |
[QUOTE=AndrewSS;19285993]Probably not, we get quality pretreated steel and treat it after its bent too. The 32mm will remain solid too. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Any chance you can get us an accurate weight on the 31.75mm bar? Wasn't sure if the previous 25lbs estimate was a total guess or not.
Thanks. Any chance you can get us an accurate weight on the 31.75mm bar? Wasn't sure if the previous 25lbs estimate was a total guess or not.
| VpointVick | 09-06-2007 02:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;19287262]Are you 100% sure? I know I was told by quite a few vendors that the price of the Whiteline swaybars went up (about 1 yr ago) due to an increase in the price of aluminum worldwide.
Guess I was lied to! :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Like I said before, aluminum would be a terrible material choice for a sway bar.
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.
Guess I was lied to! :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Like I said before, aluminum would be a terrible material choice for a sway bar.
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.
| Chiketkd | 09-06-2007 02:11 PM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick;19287535]Like I said before, aluminum would be a terrible material choice for a sway bar.
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha. After reading Whiteline's australian website, I found nothing that indicated the bar was aluminum, so I was wrong on that point. I guess I picked up some mis-information along the way.
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha. After reading Whiteline's australian website, I found nothing that indicated the bar was aluminum, so I was wrong on that point. I guess I picked up some mis-information along the way.
| kursplat | 09-06-2007 08:18 PM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick;19287535]Like I said before, aluminum would be a terrible material choice for a sway bar.
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.[/QUOTE]
ya, but Foster's Lager comes in aluminum cans....you do the math ;)
It doesn't really like to be bent, and a spring or sway bar is bending continuously so long as the car is in motion.[/QUOTE]
ya, but Foster's Lager comes in aluminum cans....you do the math ;)
| Arnie | 09-06-2007 08:22 PM |
Whiteline swaybars are all steel with forged ends.
| VpointVick | 09-06-2007 08:38 PM |
[QUOTE=kursplat;19292216]ya, but Foster's Lager comes in aluminum cans....you do the math ;)[/QUOTE]
But in that case, the object getting bent is on the outside of the can, not the can itself.:D
But in that case, the object getting bent is on the outside of the can, not the can itself.:D
| AndrewSS | 09-06-2007 11:32 PM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;19287366]Thanks. Any chance you can get us an accurate weight on the 31.75mm bar? Wasn't sure if the previous 25lbs estimate was a total guess or not.[/QUOTE]
We will get some weights soon enough, we are still in R&D my car is the only car running this bar right now. Hopefully within 2 weeks we can have some ready to sell to you guys.
I will update this thread with more info later next week.
-andrew
We will get some weights soon enough, we are still in R&D my car is the only car running this bar right now. Hopefully within 2 weeks we can have some ready to sell to you guys.
I will update this thread with more info later next week.
-andrew
| Chiketkd | 09-07-2007 12:20 AM |
Cool! Not 100% decided on your bar, but it's definitely being taken into SERIOUS consideration at this point.
FWIW, BigSkyWRX posted the weight of the Whiteline solid 27/29mm FSB as 11.1lbs in the [url=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945980]Comprehensive Component Weight Table[/url] thread. It'll be interesting to see what the true weight of your bar comes in at... :)
-Chike
FWIW, BigSkyWRX posted the weight of the Whiteline solid 27/29mm FSB as 11.1lbs in the [url=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945980]Comprehensive Component Weight Table[/url] thread. It'll be interesting to see what the true weight of your bar comes in at... :)
-Chike
| AndrewSS | 09-07-2007 12:27 AM |
^ The WL bar is only 11lbs eh... I would have thought it was heavier.
| VpointVick | 09-07-2007 09:49 AM |
[QUOTE=AndrewSS;19294780]^ The WL bar is only 11lbs eh... I would have thought it was heavier.[/QUOTE]
It would be if it wasn't made of aluminum.:lol:
It would be if it wasn't made of aluminum.:lol:
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