| bue car | 10-03-2012 10:04 PM |
you should have saved all your scrap metal, and smelted it into a mini subaru version of your wagon LOL
| 68Cadillac | 10-05-2012 12:59 PM |
[quote=bue car;38192753]you should have saved all your scrap metal...[/quote]
You're not far off. I have about 85% of the metal I cut off stored in my shed, labeled, and bagged. I think I've a sickness.
On topic:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4836-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4828-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4829.jpg[/IMG]
OEM WRX Momo Steering Wheel with SRS and cruise control stick: [B]2938 grams[/B]. The extra 22 grams came from [URL="http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4837-1.jpg"]other parts[/URL].
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4948.jpg[/IMG]
Bell Works Short Hub 116 for GD Subarus: [B]285 grams[/B]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4947.jpg[/IMG]
OMP Corsica Steering Wheel, Smooth Leather, 350mm (OD/1956/N): [B]1007 grams.[/B]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4952.jpg[/IMG]
[B][COLOR="Red"]Removed 1.646 kg.[/COLOR][/B] The Bell Works Hub and OMP wheel has to be one of the easiest installs I've done in recent memory. I think I was done in 30 minutes. Probably took just as long to take the photos, write this post, add, and store the old parts. Also the OMP wheel is one high quality unit. The leather is perfect and stretched just right around the whole wheel. The stitching and glue: impeccable. I'm also glad I went with the 350mm large diameter and smooth leather. Honestly I wish they made a 375mm or 400mm wheel. The 350mm feels small compared to the OEM.
You're not far off. I have about 85% of the metal I cut off stored in my shed, labeled, and bagged. I think I've a sickness.
On topic:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4836-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4828-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4829.jpg[/IMG]
OEM WRX Momo Steering Wheel with SRS and cruise control stick: [B]2938 grams[/B]. The extra 22 grams came from [URL="http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4837-1.jpg"]other parts[/URL].
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4948.jpg[/IMG]
Bell Works Short Hub 116 for GD Subarus: [B]285 grams[/B]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4947.jpg[/IMG]
OMP Corsica Steering Wheel, Smooth Leather, 350mm (OD/1956/N): [B]1007 grams.[/B]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4952.jpg[/IMG]
[B][COLOR="Red"]Removed 1.646 kg.[/COLOR][/B] The Bell Works Hub and OMP wheel has to be one of the easiest installs I've done in recent memory. I think I was done in 30 minutes. Probably took just as long to take the photos, write this post, add, and store the old parts. Also the OMP wheel is one high quality unit. The leather is perfect and stretched just right around the whole wheel. The stitching and glue: impeccable. I'm also glad I went with the 350mm large diameter and smooth leather. Honestly I wish they made a 375mm or 400mm wheel. The 350mm feels small compared to the OEM.
| bue car | 10-05-2012 01:03 PM |
dude turn that into a mini car LOL
Make a mold from a model car, fill with metal!
Make a mold from a model car, fill with metal!
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 10-05-2012 01:35 PM |
[quote=RRR;38038201]What a thread.. Inspired, Ive read the whole thing now (took 1 month, gave me 2 pages of work to do :cool: ).
Anyways, there is so much fuzz on these bumper beams, and for the record these appear to be USDM only. European cars dont have them as far as I can tell, checked 2 now (GD).
Anyone with the windscreen washer fluid in the trunk? How do you route it? I suppose the intercooler spray line would work, but I dont have that....
Im quite worried about wheight distribution. These things are 60/40 stock, and 3/4 of the wheight removed in this thread appear to go from the rear... Good excuse for keeping that big rear wing though. Ill also go for the battery in the trunk, I feel those extra oz of wire is worth the slightly better distribution.[/quote]
Trying to take more off the front and as high up is a good plan . A lot of people here have made those comments. Sport Compact Car did a test with a stock 350Z where they removed 600LBS and then retested it maybe someone can find the link ? They windshield washer along with the battery and your other resevoirs for fluid might be able to be relocated to the trunk i would be careful of air in powersteering and radiator resevoirs.
doing that is more like reorginizing the weight. Some might say that the battery should be inside the passenger area on the floor , but i the having it on the trunk would have a greater effect on the front to rear weight ratio which will also help handling.
Anyways, there is so much fuzz on these bumper beams, and for the record these appear to be USDM only. European cars dont have them as far as I can tell, checked 2 now (GD).
Anyone with the windscreen washer fluid in the trunk? How do you route it? I suppose the intercooler spray line would work, but I dont have that....
Im quite worried about wheight distribution. These things are 60/40 stock, and 3/4 of the wheight removed in this thread appear to go from the rear... Good excuse for keeping that big rear wing though. Ill also go for the battery in the trunk, I feel those extra oz of wire is worth the slightly better distribution.[/quote]
Trying to take more off the front and as high up is a good plan . A lot of people here have made those comments. Sport Compact Car did a test with a stock 350Z where they removed 600LBS and then retested it maybe someone can find the link ? They windshield washer along with the battery and your other resevoirs for fluid might be able to be relocated to the trunk i would be careful of air in powersteering and radiator resevoirs.
doing that is more like reorginizing the weight. Some might say that the battery should be inside the passenger area on the floor , but i the having it on the trunk would have a greater effect on the front to rear weight ratio which will also help handling.
| All4bSpinnin | 10-05-2012 01:45 PM |
Just a few notes from my past experience: These cars are really not heavy. When your car weighs about 3800 without you in it... thats heavy. I just got out of an 06 GTO and stepped back into a subaru and this car is waaaaay more light and agile. My car was a mild bolt on car that did 380/385 and that thing hauled ass even weighing over 400lbs with me in it! I see a lot of people are pulling their interior, taking off door pieces, changing the steering wheel and for what? 30lbs? It doesnt make that much of a difference and for the way the car is slowly getting destroyed, its not really worth it.
You can do a few things to these cars that are key and can save a good amount of weight off the drivetrain - carbon fiber driveshaft, light flywheel, pulley, rotors, and wheels/tires. These should be the main focus.
You can do a few things to these cars that are key and can save a good amount of weight off the drivetrain - carbon fiber driveshaft, light flywheel, pulley, rotors, and wheels/tires. These should be the main focus.
| gtasti | 10-07-2012 09:43 AM |
Subarus don't like lighter fly wheels nor pulleys
And most of the stuff caddy took of his car is nothing you even see
If you think saving a few hundred lbs does nothing ur crazy
And most of the stuff caddy took of his car is nothing you even see
If you think saving a few hundred lbs does nothing ur crazy
| 0BlueSTi4 | 10-08-2012 01:35 AM |
[quote="gtasti"]
If you think saving a few hundred lbs does nothing ur crazy[/quote]
And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.
If you think saving a few hundred lbs does nothing ur crazy[/quote]
And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.
| bue car | 10-08-2012 01:56 AM |
[quote=0BlueSTi4;38220389]And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
you mean all the years i have put into reducing the weight of my cars is negated by my close friends?
:derp:
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
you mean all the years i have put into reducing the weight of my cars is negated by my close friends?
:derp:
| PleiadesSTi | 10-08-2012 02:05 AM |
pffft.... it's win win if you don't have friends and your girlfriend is tiny.
| vicious_fishes | 10-08-2012 06:13 AM |
[quote=0BlueSTi4;38220389]And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
i'm sure if you spent the $100,000 difference in the cost of the cars you could spank the gtr:rolleyes:
then again you don't drive around tracks with your fat friends in the car do you?
and saying that people who think saving hundreds of pounds does a lot are crazy?
you=clueless
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
i'm sure if you spent the $100,000 difference in the cost of the cars you could spank the gtr:rolleyes:
then again you don't drive around tracks with your fat friends in the car do you?
and saying that people who think saving hundreds of pounds does a lot are crazy?
you=clueless
| A-man07 | 10-08-2012 06:30 AM |
[quote=0BlueSTi4;38220389]And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
Very short sighted. Typical. Trolls strolling on through.
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
Very short sighted. Typical. Trolls strolling on through.
| gtasti | 10-08-2012 01:22 PM |
[quote=0BlueSTi4;38220389]And if you think that it does you are also crazy - or at the very least obsessed. Once your fat friend gets in your car it negates all the work you put into it. So is it really worth it?
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
Exactly what was said below wasn't aware you race with a fat friend in the car
Also if I had 120 gs to throw away I'd put it in the suby and spank all a$$
And yes in Canada the gtr is 120 gs
Let's face it...you can strip all the creature comforts from your car and get your perfect balance and all that...and in the end a stock GTR will spank you with minimal effort.[/quote]
Exactly what was said below wasn't aware you race with a fat friend in the car
Also if I had 120 gs to throw away I'd put it in the suby and spank all a$$
And yes in Canada the gtr is 120 gs
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 10-08-2012 01:38 PM |
[URL]http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0802_2009_nissan_gt_r/viewall.html#13497168280591&188,shopper[/URL]
So the GT becomes a GT-R. The world's fastest sub-$100,000 car; $75,000 to $80,000 is the likely price range
3.8L/480-hp/434-lb-ft twin turbo DOHC 24-valve V-6
Curb weight 3836 lb (mfr)
power to weight=7.999999etc.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Standing �-mile: 11.7 sec
[URL]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q[/URL]
[URL]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/URL]
You can also youtube time attack of Opera's cars against other tuners , to note that shop doesn't increase power just decrease weight.
You can also do your own math on how to get a subaru to match the GT-R's perfomance and power to weight ratio .
granted not everyone will do that or track there car but this thread is for pro-weight reduction if your anti-weight reduction please use facts and figures at least.:D
So the GT becomes a GT-R. The world's fastest sub-$100,000 car; $75,000 to $80,000 is the likely price range
3.8L/480-hp/434-lb-ft twin turbo DOHC 24-valve V-6
Curb weight 3836 lb (mfr)
power to weight=7.999999etc.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Standing �-mile: 11.7 sec
[URL]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q[/URL]
[URL]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/URL]
You can also youtube time attack of Opera's cars against other tuners , to note that shop doesn't increase power just decrease weight.
You can also do your own math on how to get a subaru to match the GT-R's perfomance and power to weight ratio .
granted not everyone will do that or track there car but this thread is for pro-weight reduction if your anti-weight reduction please use facts and figures at least.:D
| JDwhiteWRX | 10-08-2012 08:50 PM |
GTR is a heavy and expensive car compared to an Impreza, a guy in our club has one and has to replace a set of $1300 rotors after every track day. Sure its fast, like amazingly quick around the track, but you got to pay if you want to play.
| bue car | 10-08-2012 09:50 PM |
he should have opted for the 50k carbon brakes and saved weight too! :banana:
| 0BlueSTi4 | 10-08-2012 11:48 PM |
[quote="bue car"]
you mean all the years i have put into reducing the weight of my cars is negated by my close friends?
:derp:[/quote]
or worst yet...your family...you never know
you mean all the years i have put into reducing the weight of my cars is negated by my close friends?
:derp:[/quote]
or worst yet...your family...you never know
| 0BlueSTi4 | 10-08-2012 11:54 PM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]GTR is a heavy and expensive car compared to an Impreza, a guy in our club has one and has to replace a set of $1300 rotors after every track day. Sure its fast, like amazingly quick around the track, but you got to pay if you want to play.[/quote]
I know what you mean. I owned one for two years and maintenance cost along while trying to stay warranty friendly was a crunch and a disability.
I know what you mean. I owned one for two years and maintenance cost along while trying to stay warranty friendly was a crunch and a disability.
| 0BlueSTi4 | 10-08-2012 11:58 PM |
[quote="vicious_fishes"]
i'm sure if you spent the $100,000 difference in the cost of the cars you could spank the gtr:rolleyes:
then again you don't drive around tracks with your fat friends in the car do you?
and saying that people who think saving hundreds of pounds does a lot are crazy?
you=clueless[/quote]
Wow somebody took that personally. I never said weight reduction was not important. All I said is that you could be crazy if you do and if you don't.
Let's see 2009 GTR out the door set me back $93k while 2011 WRX was $27k(that's in US $s) - so not entirely sure where $100k difference came from.
i'm sure if you spent the $100,000 difference in the cost of the cars you could spank the gtr:rolleyes:
then again you don't drive around tracks with your fat friends in the car do you?
and saying that people who think saving hundreds of pounds does a lot are crazy?
you=clueless[/quote]
Wow somebody took that personally. I never said weight reduction was not important. All I said is that you could be crazy if you do and if you don't.
Let's see 2009 GTR out the door set me back $93k while 2011 WRX was $27k(that's in US $s) - so not entirely sure where $100k difference came from.
| 0BlueSTi4 | 10-09-2012 12:07 AM |
[quote="DamnThatRevLimiter"][URL="http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0802_2009_nissan_gt_r/viewall.html#13497168280591&188,shopper"]http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0802_2009_nissan_gt_r/viewall.html#13497168280591&188,shopper[/URL]
So the GT becomes a GT-R. The world's fastest sub-$100,000 car; $75,000 to $80,000 is the likely price range
3.8L/480-hp/434-lb-ft twin turbo DOHC 24-valve V-6
Curb weight 3836 lb (mfr)
power to weight=7.999999etc.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Standing �-mile: 11.7 sec
[URL="http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q"]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q[/URL]
[URL="http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg"]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg[/URL]
[URL="http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html"]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/URL]
You can also youtube time attack of Opera's cars against other tuners , to note that shop doesn't increase power just decrease weight.
You can also do your own math on how to get a subaru to match the GT-R's perfomance and power to weight ratio .
granted not everyone will do that or track there car but this thread is for pro-weight reduction if your anti-weight reduction please use facts and figures at least.:D[/quote]
Why did you pick the slowest and weakest GTR of them all? How about 2012?
And yes it is a pig and it is expensive yet it goes round the track faster then lighter and more powerful and more expensive 911 turbo - good luck replicating that while remaining comfortable and civilized.
So the GT becomes a GT-R. The world's fastest sub-$100,000 car; $75,000 to $80,000 is the likely price range
3.8L/480-hp/434-lb-ft twin turbo DOHC 24-valve V-6
Curb weight 3836 lb (mfr)
power to weight=7.999999etc.
PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Standing �-mile: 11.7 sec
[URL="http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q"]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=ag1zULSCH-aLjAKG-oCwAQ&ved=0CCcQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNFX7ewoWHaRTJwj5XZmZhfkLdOO2Q[/URL]
[URL="http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg"]http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.modified.com/features/sccp_0608_opera_performance_tuner_garage/viewall.html&sa=U&ei=hA1zUN-YLevDiwL1oIGIDw&ved=0CCsQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNExkqfcMCKV4HD5AEmjCAQoW7Pctg[/URL]
[URL="http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html"]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/URL]
You can also youtube time attack of Opera's cars against other tuners , to note that shop doesn't increase power just decrease weight.
You can also do your own math on how to get a subaru to match the GT-R's perfomance and power to weight ratio .
granted not everyone will do that or track there car but this thread is for pro-weight reduction if your anti-weight reduction please use facts and figures at least.:D[/quote]
Why did you pick the slowest and weakest GTR of them all? How about 2012?
And yes it is a pig and it is expensive yet it goes round the track faster then lighter and more powerful and more expensive 911 turbo - good luck replicating that while remaining comfortable and civilized.
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 10-09-2012 01:33 PM |
[quote=0BlueSTi4;38227985]Why did you pick the slowest and weakest GTR of them all? How about 2012?
And yes it is a pig and it is expensive yet it goes round the track faster then lighter and more powerful and more expensive 911 turbo - good luck replicating that while remaining comfortable and civilized.[/quote]
Just looked up 2009 because alot of the ones in my area that i see are 2009 , people most likely raced to buy them when they first came out. the civility of our cars would deminish at those levels. BTW if any one does race a GTR I would be curious to see the results, gotta post it! The GTR is a good bench mark ( ruler) to measure performance. If you can beat a GTR most likly you would employ every weight savings trick and speed trick out there!
And yes it is a pig and it is expensive yet it goes round the track faster then lighter and more powerful and more expensive 911 turbo - good luck replicating that while remaining comfortable and civilized.[/quote]
Just looked up 2009 because alot of the ones in my area that i see are 2009 , people most likely raced to buy them when they first came out. the civility of our cars would deminish at those levels. BTW if any one does race a GTR I would be curious to see the results, gotta post it! The GTR is a good bench mark ( ruler) to measure performance. If you can beat a GTR most likly you would employ every weight savings trick and speed trick out there!
| Ernest | 10-09-2012 03:01 PM |
[quote=DamnThatRevLimiter;38231554]Just looked up 2009 because alot of the ones in my area that i see are 2009 , people most likely raced to buy them when they first came out. the civility of our cars would deminish at those levels. BTW if any one does race a GTR I would be curious to see the results, gotta post it! The GTR is a good bench mark ( ruler) to measure performance. If you can beat a GTR most likly you would employ every weight savings trick and speed trick out there![/quote]
No dig on the GTR - it is a great car, but the 911 is way nicer and refined. I would never pay all that money for a Nissan. For the price of the GTR I can get a used 993 turbo and an new STI - perfect summer/winter ride combo.
No dig on the GTR - it is a great car, but the 911 is way nicer and refined. I would never pay all that money for a Nissan. For the price of the GTR I can get a used 993 turbo and an new STI - perfect summer/winter ride combo.
| vicious_fishes | 10-09-2012 08:35 PM |
back to weight reduction:
interesting to note that the OEM steering wheel/airbag only weighs 2.7kg. would have thought it would be more than that.
interesting to note that the OEM steering wheel/airbag only weighs 2.7kg. would have thought it would be more than that.
| gtasti | 10-09-2012 09:19 PM |
The dash one I bet is a lot heavier
Anyone weight stock sti seats vs Jdm ones yet ?
Anyone weight stock sti seats vs Jdm ones yet ?
| 68Cadillac | 10-09-2012 10:11 PM |
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4835-1.jpg[/IMG]
Steering Wheel SRS Airbag [COLOR="Red"]0.983 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4826-1.jpg[/IMG]
Dash SRS Airbag [COLOR="Red"]2.974 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4842-1.jpg[/IMG]
Seat Airbags x2 [COLOR="Red"]2.164 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4844-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS Control Module [COLOR="Red"]0.669 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4840-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS underseat wiring brackets [COLOR="Red"]0.171 kg[/COLOR] [SIZE="1"]Second bracket sits the left of the scale.[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4888.jpg[/IMG]
SRS Front Frame Rail G-meters [COLOR="Red"]0.697 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4904-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS B-Pillar G-Meters [COLOR="Red"]0.434 kg[/COLOR]
Total SRS weight [COLOR="Red"][B]8.092 kg[/B][/COLOR] excluding wiring.
Steering Wheel SRS Airbag [COLOR="Red"]0.983 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4826-1.jpg[/IMG]
Dash SRS Airbag [COLOR="Red"]2.974 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4842-1.jpg[/IMG]
Seat Airbags x2 [COLOR="Red"]2.164 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4844-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS Control Module [COLOR="Red"]0.669 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4840-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS underseat wiring brackets [COLOR="Red"]0.171 kg[/COLOR] [SIZE="1"]Second bracket sits the left of the scale.[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4888.jpg[/IMG]
SRS Front Frame Rail G-meters [COLOR="Red"]0.697 kg[/COLOR]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4904-1.jpg[/IMG]
SRS B-Pillar G-Meters [COLOR="Red"]0.434 kg[/COLOR]
Total SRS weight [COLOR="Red"][B]8.092 kg[/B][/COLOR] excluding wiring.
| bue car | 10-09-2012 11:36 PM |
you stay busy!
| gtasti | 10-10-2012 08:41 AM |
How hard was it to remove dash one ?
I've had my dash off before that's easy part
I've had my dash off before that's easy part
| 68Cadillac | 10-10-2012 11:14 AM |
[quote=gtasti;38237787]How hard was it to remove dash one ?
I've had my dash off before that's easy part[/quote]
No need to remove the dash.
Remove the glove box.
Unbolt the three bolts holding the bag cradle to the dash bar.
Undo the wiring. Hardest wires to undo in the whole car.
Pull/Push the whole thing out through the top of the dash. Cover and all.
Separate cover from bag and reinstall in dash.
I've had my dash off before that's easy part[/quote]
No need to remove the dash.
Remove the glove box.
Unbolt the three bolts holding the bag cradle to the dash bar.
Undo the wiring. Hardest wires to undo in the whole car.
Pull/Push the whole thing out through the top of the dash. Cover and all.
Separate cover from bag and reinstall in dash.
| 68Cadillac | 10-15-2012 09:09 PM |
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_1819.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_1822.jpg[/IMG]
For a HPDE I "stripped" the interior removing the passenger seat, rear seats, and cargo area false floor. Added a large fire extinguisher and a [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2091797&page=2"]DIY front wind splitter[/URL].
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4975.jpg[/IMG]
To mark the occasion I rolled over to the C.A.T.S. for a weigh in. Down to 1242.8 kg with 9/16 full fuel tank. A full tank of fuel weighs 44.7 kg.
[SIZE="1"][B]Mass of my Subaru for HPDE[/B]
Less Airbagless Passenger Seat 18.51 kg
Less Rear Seats 18.42 kg
Less Cargo Area 4.08 kg
Plus Safety Harness 1.172 kg
Plus Fire Extinguisher 4.395 kg
Total: -35.443 kg[/SIZE]
[B]1262.35 kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1217.65 kg: dry weight (no fuel)[/B]
[SIZE="1"][B]Mass of my Subaru for Daily Driving[/B]
Plus Airbagless Passenger Seat 18.51 kg
Plus Rear Seats 18.42 kg
Plus Cargo Area 4.08 kg
Less Fire Extinguisher 4.395 kg
Less Safety Harness 1.172 kg
Total: +35.443 kg[/SIZE]
[B]1297.79 kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1253.09 kg: dry weight (no fuel)[/B]
[B][SIZE="1"]Mass of my Subaru as it rolled off the ship[/SIZE][/B]
[B]1435.62 kg: curb weight (full of fuel)[/B]
Total Mass reduction for HPDE: 173.27 kg (382.00 lb) 12.1% lighter.
Total Mass reduction for Daily: 137.83 kg (303.86 lb) 9.6% lighter.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_1822.jpg[/IMG]
For a HPDE I "stripped" the interior removing the passenger seat, rear seats, and cargo area false floor. Added a large fire extinguisher and a [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2091797&page=2"]DIY front wind splitter[/URL].
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_4975.jpg[/IMG]
To mark the occasion I rolled over to the C.A.T.S. for a weigh in. Down to 1242.8 kg with 9/16 full fuel tank. A full tank of fuel weighs 44.7 kg.
[SIZE="1"][B]Mass of my Subaru for HPDE[/B]
Less Airbagless Passenger Seat 18.51 kg
Less Rear Seats 18.42 kg
Less Cargo Area 4.08 kg
Plus Safety Harness 1.172 kg
Plus Fire Extinguisher 4.395 kg
Total: -35.443 kg[/SIZE]
[B]1262.35 kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1217.65 kg: dry weight (no fuel)[/B]
[SIZE="1"][B]Mass of my Subaru for Daily Driving[/B]
Plus Airbagless Passenger Seat 18.51 kg
Plus Rear Seats 18.42 kg
Plus Cargo Area 4.08 kg
Less Fire Extinguisher 4.395 kg
Less Safety Harness 1.172 kg
Total: +35.443 kg[/SIZE]
[B]1297.79 kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1253.09 kg: dry weight (no fuel)[/B]
[B][SIZE="1"]Mass of my Subaru as it rolled off the ship[/SIZE][/B]
[B]1435.62 kg: curb weight (full of fuel)[/B]
Total Mass reduction for HPDE: 173.27 kg (382.00 lb) 12.1% lighter.
Total Mass reduction for Daily: 137.83 kg (303.86 lb) 9.6% lighter.
| kpluiten | 10-16-2012 12:15 AM |
[quote=68Cadillac;37884985]FYI -
There is no weight savings to be had in the aftermarket all-aluminum radiators.
[URL="http://www.oakos.com"][IMG]http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/VH091672.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
From [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23813071&postcount=10"]this post[/URL].
[QUOTE]
Stock RADIATOR bare (no cap, fans etc) 8.040 lbs
with water (aprox) 13.43 lbs
Koyo radiator bare...11.855 lbs
with water (aprox)...20.455 lbs[/quote]
[/quote]
This is no longer true. Koyo has a new version of their GD chassis radiator. It is thinner and lighter. It weighs 7lbs 13.25 oz with no fluid, fans, or cap, which is a couple of ounces lighter than the stock unit. The picture you quoted is the new design. The old design was about twice as dense and used a less efficient fin design/density.
[IMG]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/kpluiten/WRX%20Wagon%20Build%20-%202010/Koyo%20Radiator/IMG_20121015_210043.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/kpluiten/WRX%20Wagon%20Build%20-%202010/Koyo%20Radiator/IMG_20121015_210136.jpg[/IMG]
There is no weight savings to be had in the aftermarket all-aluminum radiators.
[URL="http://www.oakos.com"][IMG]http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/VH091672.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
From [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23813071&postcount=10"]this post[/URL].
[QUOTE]
Stock RADIATOR bare (no cap, fans etc) 8.040 lbs
with water (aprox) 13.43 lbs
Koyo radiator bare...11.855 lbs
with water (aprox)...20.455 lbs[/quote]
[/quote]
This is no longer true. Koyo has a new version of their GD chassis radiator. It is thinner and lighter. It weighs 7lbs 13.25 oz with no fluid, fans, or cap, which is a couple of ounces lighter than the stock unit. The picture you quoted is the new design. The old design was about twice as dense and used a less efficient fin design/density.
[IMG]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/kpluiten/WRX%20Wagon%20Build%20-%202010/Koyo%20Radiator/IMG_20121015_210043.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/kpluiten/WRX%20Wagon%20Build%20-%202010/Koyo%20Radiator/IMG_20121015_210136.jpg[/IMG]
| rocketperson7 | 10-16-2012 01:33 AM |
[quote=68Cadillac;38278320]
To mark the occasion I rolled over to the C.A.T.S. for a weigh in. Down to 1242.8 kg with 9/16 full fuel tank. A full tank of fuel weighs 44.7 kg.
[B][SIZE=1]Mass of my Subaru for HPDE[/SIZE][/B]
1262[SIZE=1].35[/SIZE] kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1217[SIZE=1].65[/SIZE] kg: dry weight (no fuel)
[B][SIZE=1]Mass of my Subaru as it rolled off the ship[/SIZE][/B]
1435[SIZE=1].62[/SIZE] kg: curb weight (full of fuel)
Total Mass reduction for HPDE: 173.27 kg (382.00 lb) 12.1% lighter.[/quote]
I've read through a good part of this thread before, and it seems that you're one of the main contributors, and I think that's very impressive
could you give a quick rundown of what "creature comforts" are lost? from what I can tell from the pictures that aren't related to the rear being gutted, you've lost ac, cruise, and airbags, anything else? it seems like with just a little bit of care taken that losing 150-200lbs is quite attainable with a full interior and ac (what I want)
To mark the occasion I rolled over to the C.A.T.S. for a weigh in. Down to 1242.8 kg with 9/16 full fuel tank. A full tank of fuel weighs 44.7 kg.
[B][SIZE=1]Mass of my Subaru for HPDE[/SIZE][/B]
1262[SIZE=1].35[/SIZE] kg: curb weight (full of fuel), or
1217[SIZE=1].65[/SIZE] kg: dry weight (no fuel)
[B][SIZE=1]Mass of my Subaru as it rolled off the ship[/SIZE][/B]
1435[SIZE=1].62[/SIZE] kg: curb weight (full of fuel)
Total Mass reduction for HPDE: 173.27 kg (382.00 lb) 12.1% lighter.[/quote]
I've read through a good part of this thread before, and it seems that you're one of the main contributors, and I think that's very impressive
could you give a quick rundown of what "creature comforts" are lost? from what I can tell from the pictures that aren't related to the rear being gutted, you've lost ac, cruise, and airbags, anything else? it seems like with just a little bit of care taken that losing 150-200lbs is quite attainable with a full interior and ac (what I want)
| 68Cadillac | 10-16-2012 01:41 AM |
I still have the full AC system installed and working. I even used it while waiting in grid just before my run group received the green flag. Gets a little hot waiting there. I normally run a full interior excluding the "o **** handles" and rear seat head rests. I reinstalled the passenger seat, rear seats, and cargo area false floor this evening.
Thanks for the correction on the Koyo Radiator.
Thanks for the correction on the Koyo Radiator.
| gtasti | 10-16-2012 07:09 AM |
How much are those new koyo rads
I'll be going on the scales soon I'll post up my results
I'll be going on the scales soon I'll post up my results
| b3delta | 10-23-2012 04:41 PM |
ever get the How to for the EVAP delete? im gonna tinker around with mine this weekend and drop some more weight. Just to chime in I got the exedy flywheel, Perrin LWCP and DSS Al Driveshaft and no issues. Removed most of the basic stuff, but gonna dig in and find some, maybe have Mr. Dremel gimme a hand.
| b3delta | 10-24-2012 05:54 PM |
btw just removing the front subframe, full SS headers/exhaust, battery relocation, and removing heatshields, was enough to cause a significant ride height change in the front, so if you're worried bout the look and ride height here is your warning about the car diet.
Also, with the whole Ti debate. Titanium while very light and strong, is still heavier then Al. IDK if they make Al exhaust, or if it would hold up to the heat, but thatd be the lightest feaseable material.
Another idea for fighting heat and keeping weight down, anyone considered an aerogel heat shield? I know the stuff can be machined and holds shape while weighing next to nothing (the stuff is like 99% air or something) yet it has ridiculously low thermal conductivity. [URL="http://www.buyaerogel.com/"]http://www.buyaerogel.com/[/URL] this has it in tiles, wraps, and loose granules. Seems to be a hell of a way to combat heat while not adding wieght. Fighting heat is just as important as dropping weight IMHO.
Also, with the whole Ti debate. Titanium while very light and strong, is still heavier then Al. IDK if they make Al exhaust, or if it would hold up to the heat, but thatd be the lightest feaseable material.
Another idea for fighting heat and keeping weight down, anyone considered an aerogel heat shield? I know the stuff can be machined and holds shape while weighing next to nothing (the stuff is like 99% air or something) yet it has ridiculously low thermal conductivity. [URL="http://www.buyaerogel.com/"]http://www.buyaerogel.com/[/URL] this has it in tiles, wraps, and loose granules. Seems to be a hell of a way to combat heat while not adding wieght. Fighting heat is just as important as dropping weight IMHO.
| KelConquer | 10-27-2012 04:31 PM |
Might as well post what I've got going on, all AC and cruise hardware removed, wiper fluid res removed and intake silencer, among various other things I've taken out along the way. Opened up my hood scoop so it's functional and removed all hood liner. My motives are having a lighter engine bay obviously (save gas!), something to keep me busy (I'm an aspiring mechanic so I love working on my car), and everything I've taken out I don't use. So it's nice to have all of that out of the way for when I need to make more drastic repairs.
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8128708824_9d5dece0a0_c.jpg[/IMG]
I also have the legacy front bumper with the large fog light inserts, no fog lights though so my intake is run though the right insert straight up to the stock box. Interior is gutted out as well, wagon coupe!
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8128708824_9d5dece0a0_c.jpg[/IMG]
I also have the legacy front bumper with the large fog light inserts, no fog lights though so my intake is run though the right insert straight up to the stock box. Interior is gutted out as well, wagon coupe!
| gtasti | 10-27-2012 10:15 PM |
Had my car on the scales came in on 3024lbs without me in it
04 sti
04 sti
| mxer254 | 10-28-2012 07:56 PM |
[quote=gtasti;38369488]Had my car on the scales came in on 3024lbs without me in it
04 sti[/quote]
with how much fuel? last time my 04 wrx was on the scales it came in at 2973 with a 1/4 tank of fuel without me in it
SS headers going on soon...
04 sti[/quote]
with how much fuel? last time my 04 wrx was on the scales it came in at 2973 with a 1/4 tank of fuel without me in it
SS headers going on soon...
| JDwhiteWRX | 10-29-2012 05:55 AM |
Mine is at 2780lbs with 1/3 tank. You guys have got to get more serious :lol:
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/before-after.jpg[/IMG]
That's light weight glass too.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/before-after.jpg[/IMG]
That's light weight glass too.
| yebokmj | 10-29-2012 07:59 AM |
Comparing a STI weight to a WRX weight is not comparing the same vehicle, The 6speed and the rear diff right off the bat are significantly heavier than that of a WRX.
| tuzzio | 10-29-2012 08:21 AM |
Don't forget the longer axles, and that stupid wing.
| gtasti | 10-29-2012 09:47 PM |
[quote=mxer254;38373615]with how much fuel? last time my 04 wrx was on the scales it came in at 2973 with a 1/4 tank of fuel without me in it
SS headers going on soon...[/quote]
Just over 1/2 tank
And yea remember mine is the sti
SS headers going on soon...[/quote]
Just over 1/2 tank
And yea remember mine is the sti
| Str8Gone | 10-30-2012 08:34 PM |
bump for new ideas, Im already sub 2800 with the seats in
| sc00by4life | 10-30-2012 08:47 PM |
[quote=tuzzio;38375973][B]Don't forget the longer axles[/B], and that stupid wing.[/quote]
uh? maybe comparing a sedan to a wagon......
uh? maybe comparing a sedan to a wagon......
| bue car | 11-12-2012 07:34 PM |
So after spending money for my crash beam, i find this. Thought I share.
[url]http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/ams-02-07-subaru-sti-wrx-replacement-crash-bar.html[/url]
[url]http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/ams-02-07-subaru-sti-wrx-replacement-crash-bar.html[/url]
| gtasti | 11-12-2012 09:10 PM |
Im sure urs didn't cost 120 bucks tho
| bue car | 11-12-2012 10:46 PM |
that is where you are wrong unfortunately
| b3delta | 11-13-2012 08:19 PM |
for those who removed the fron bumper beam, how did you reattach the bumper? all the popits plug into the beam so whats holding ur bumper on?
| bue car | 11-13-2012 11:10 PM |
My aftermarket one does not.
| dub c | 11-14-2012 01:26 AM |
^Dont they?
I have a Turbo XS (I think) FMIC bracket to hold my bumper up.
It's made from sheet aluminum and has tabs for the popit plug's you speak of.
I have a Turbo XS (I think) FMIC bracket to hold my bumper up.
It's made from sheet aluminum and has tabs for the popit plug's you speak of.
| bue car | 11-14-2012 10:10 AM |
I guess you are right.
| b3delta | 11-14-2012 04:14 PM |
on the 03 WRX, you pull off the one piece grill and the two small pieces that cover the headlight mounts. there are 6 or seven popits that connect to the top of the crash beam, holding the bumper cover on, with the stock USDM beam removed, there is no way to attach the bumper cover except for the popits in the wheel well.
Looking down on the beam as if it is attached to the car you can see the holes
Looking down on the beam as if it is attached to the car you can see the holes
| bue car | 11-14-2012 04:21 PM |
Hmm I guess you are right, my bumper does not connect there anymore.
[IMG]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/thyfacelessgod/02Frontcrashbeamtopview.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/thyfacelessgod/02Frontcrashbeamtopview.jpg[/IMG]
| crotchbuffet | 11-14-2012 05:32 PM |
i have the ams beam on my bugeye. i just didnt use any of those plugs in the middle. its attached by the two points at either edge of the bumper by the wheels and the four plugs that attach to the pieces between the grill and the headlights
| b3delta | 11-14-2012 07:01 PM |
yeh my wheel well liners are cracked and broke so im trying to see if theres some way to rig it up without the beam and just2 plugs
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 11-21-2012 08:35 PM |
Found this to read it has some related material.
[url]http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145/t83716-hermes-tims-daily-driver.html[/url]
[url]http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145/t83716-hermes-tims-daily-driver.html[/url]
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 11-21-2012 08:40 PM |
Here is another.
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/url]
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_honda_rsx/viewall.html[/url]
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 11-21-2012 08:46 PM |
This one Gain weight,but is way more stiff compared to stock. Note the part about "Glue"
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html[/url]
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sccp_opera_performance_nissan_350z/viewall.html[/url]
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 11-21-2012 08:50 PM |
And here is the last of the three from opera, and for me this was the best.
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sscp_opera_performance_honda_s2000/viewall.html[/url]
[url]http://www.modified.com/features/0611sscp_opera_performance_honda_s2000/viewall.html[/url]
| u2_m4r1n3 | 12-04-2012 01:27 PM |
[quote="RRR;38038201"]What a thread.. Inspired, Ive read the whole thing now (took 1 month, gave me 2 pages of work to do :cool: ).
Anyways, there is so much fuzz on these bumper beams, and for the record these appear to be USDM only. European cars dont have them as far as I can tell, checked 2 now (GD).
Anyone with the windscreen washer fluid in the trunk? How do you route it? I suppose the intercooler spray line would work, but I dont have that....
Im quite worried about wheight distribution. These things are 60/40 stock, and 3/4 of the wheight removed in this thread appear to go from the rear... Good excuse for keeping that big rear wing though. Ill also go for the battery in the trunk, I feel those extra oz of wire is worth the slightly better distribution.[/quote]
I relocated the reservoir to the rear, its pretty straight forward.
Coilovers will be the money maker in weight distribution. You can adjust ride height to shift weight, I highly recommend it if you're serious.
On the M3 I went from a 50/50 stock distribution sitting at 3420 lbs to 2980 and a 49/51 split. Before I added Coilovers I was around a 56/44 split. Those Coilovers did good!
Anyways, there is so much fuzz on these bumper beams, and for the record these appear to be USDM only. European cars dont have them as far as I can tell, checked 2 now (GD).
Anyone with the windscreen washer fluid in the trunk? How do you route it? I suppose the intercooler spray line would work, but I dont have that....
Im quite worried about wheight distribution. These things are 60/40 stock, and 3/4 of the wheight removed in this thread appear to go from the rear... Good excuse for keeping that big rear wing though. Ill also go for the battery in the trunk, I feel those extra oz of wire is worth the slightly better distribution.[/quote]
I relocated the reservoir to the rear, its pretty straight forward.
Coilovers will be the money maker in weight distribution. You can adjust ride height to shift weight, I highly recommend it if you're serious.
On the M3 I went from a 50/50 stock distribution sitting at 3420 lbs to 2980 and a 49/51 split. Before I added Coilovers I was around a 56/44 split. Those Coilovers did good!
| dribbler | 12-30-2012 12:07 AM |
What about seats? how much lighter would Corbeau's or Bride's be?
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