| RallyeXpress | 08-06-2006 02:00 PM |
Colin & Nicky - 1 of a kind moment!!!!!
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Wow! I was able to capture Colin and Nicky's roll in a 20 shoot sequence.
Then printed 1 of the shots in poster size and had Colin and Nicky sign it right there at the X Games in the service are!
Espn liked it so much they made a poster and it's hanging in the Athletes Lounge at the X Games!
They also are making a copy to have signed by Colin & Nicky and it will be auctioned off for charity!
One of a kind collectable!
RallyeXpress
[img]http://images18.fotki.com/v339/photos/1/12634/3871533/McRae-vi.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images17.fotki.com/v295/photos/1/12634/3871533/McRaeSign-vi.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images14.fotki.com/v21/photos/1/12634/3871533/NickySign-vi.jpg[/img]
Then printed 1 of the shots in poster size and had Colin and Nicky sign it right there at the X Games in the service are!
Espn liked it so much they made a poster and it's hanging in the Athletes Lounge at the X Games!
They also are making a copy to have signed by Colin & Nicky and it will be auctioned off for charity!
One of a kind collectable!
RallyeXpress
[img]http://images18.fotki.com/v339/photos/1/12634/3871533/McRae-vi.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images17.fotki.com/v295/photos/1/12634/3871533/McRaeSign-vi.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images14.fotki.com/v21/photos/1/12634/3871533/NickySign-vi.jpg[/img]
| DrBiggly | 08-06-2006 02:05 PM |
Ok, that has much coolness. You are forgiven for making yet another OMG Colin rolled! thread. :)
-Biggly
-Biggly
| greg donovan | 08-06-2006 03:12 PM |
oh man that is too cool.
i would love to buy a poster of that shot.
i would love to buy a poster of that shot.
| Dirt Man | 08-06-2006 03:12 PM |
I can imagine the in car conversation:
Nicky to Colin... You had to do it again, didnt you :furious:
Colin to Nicky... Sorry, had a flashback ;)
Nicky to Colin... You had to do it again, didnt you :furious:
Colin to Nicky... Sorry, had a flashback ;)
| Black-Falcon | 08-06-2006 04:10 PM |
WOW! Thats an amazing shot! :eek:
| PA04STI | 08-06-2006 04:16 PM |
Awesome pic and great idea to auction it to charity...
Keep use posted so we can bid on it if available.
If you talk to Ken Block ever...tell him to push for a Winter Rally X!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt
Keep use posted so we can bid on it if available.
If you talk to Ken Block ever...tell him to push for a Winter Rally X!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt
| Usaf*STi | 08-06-2006 04:43 PM |
+1 to winter rally X
| skuttledude | 08-06-2006 06:22 PM |
excellent shot. Well done!
| Crash477 | 08-06-2006 08:49 PM |
That is awesome!
| 23b_Rex | 08-06-2006 08:54 PM |
[img]http://www.eatingerdesign.com/images/mcrae.gif[/img]
| davis10 | 08-06-2006 09:02 PM |
wow great shot where do you get posters like that printed
| Kostamojen | 08-06-2006 10:54 PM |
Wow thats awesome!!!
Now you need to start selling that poster to the rest of us :p
Now you need to start selling that poster to the rest of us :p
| BurtonCR | 08-07-2006 12:33 AM |
So I have some major doubts about this whole event.
From what I understand Pastrana has been competing in SCCA Pro Rally this year (correct?).
What I want to know is how he was able to compete at all with a WRC champion? I mean was Colins car set up poorly? I just dont believe it was real at all.
Anyone else??
From what I understand Pastrana has been competing in SCCA Pro Rally this year (correct?).
What I want to know is how he was able to compete at all with a WRC champion? I mean was Colins car set up poorly? I just dont believe it was real at all.
Anyone else??
| datageek | 08-07-2006 12:56 AM |
[QUOTE=BurtonCR]So I have some major doubts about this whole event.
From what I understand Pastrana has been competing in SCCA Pro Rally this year (correct?).[/QUOTE]
What is this "SCCA" thing you speak of? :)
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
[QUOTE]
What I want to know is how he was able to compete at all with a WRC champion? I mean was Colins car set up poorly? I just dont believe it was real at all.
Anyone else??[/QUOTE]
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.
From what I understand Pastrana has been competing in SCCA Pro Rally this year (correct?).[/QUOTE]
What is this "SCCA" thing you speak of? :)
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
[QUOTE]
What I want to know is how he was able to compete at all with a WRC champion? I mean was Colins car set up poorly? I just dont believe it was real at all.
Anyone else??[/QUOTE]
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.
| Boxologist | 08-07-2006 12:57 AM |
there was no sandbagging. TP had a nearly 10 second lead after 5 stage iirc and then McCrash got on it and pulled even at the end of the second to last stage. Had McCrash not flubbed the landing he would have beat Pastrana by 5 seconds on a 2 minute course.
the X games cars were using a stick shift, which pastrana had been competing w/ for a season and a half. McCrash had been using a sequential gear box for ages. he also only had a few days of shakedown w/ the car coma[pred to the rest of the competitors( except may the richards).
the X games cars were using a stick shift, which pastrana had been competing w/ for a season and a half. McCrash had been using a sequential gear box for ages. he also only had a few days of shakedown w/ the car coma[pred to the rest of the competitors( except may the richards).
| akinasdevil | 08-07-2006 01:27 AM |
Amazing pic! Congrats!
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 01:38 AM |
[QUOTE=datageek]What is this "SCCA" thing you speak of? :)
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Travis was a very dangerous guy for Colin to run against. Travis really had nothing to lose. if he lost, he lost to Colin McRae. if he won he beat Colin McRae. talk about a win win situation.
travis has a rally course in his backyard. i bet he drives every day he is home (I know i would). he probably gets more seat time in a rally car in a week than most drivers in the US get in an entire season.
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Travis was a very dangerous guy for Colin to run against. Travis really had nothing to lose. if he lost, he lost to Colin McRae. if he won he beat Colin McRae. talk about a win win situation.
travis has a rally course in his backyard. i bet he drives every day he is home (I know i would). he probably gets more seat time in a rally car in a week than most drivers in the US get in an entire season.
| sirwrx273 | 08-07-2006 01:50 AM |
Where can I get that poster????
| boostpower | 08-07-2006 02:01 AM |
I hate you!!!!! No seriously, I wanted to be there so bad and I just couldn't be there. But I would love to buy that poster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Mopho | 08-07-2006 02:07 AM |
HP had a large printer at the athletes pavilion and you can get your shots printed poster size there (not sure if they charged for it), which is where RallyeXpress likely got the poster made
I am sure you will see this shot everywhere because there was about two dozen photographers (including myself) with long lenses there that got the same shot. (and why I hate shooting events like this)
Cool that RallyeXpress got them to sign sign it and auction it off though
I am sure you will see this shot everywhere because there was about two dozen photographers (including myself) with long lenses there that got the same shot. (and why I hate shooting events like this)
Cool that RallyeXpress got them to sign sign it and auction it off though
| sirwrx273 | 08-07-2006 02:43 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]HP had a large printer at the athletes pavilion and you can get your shots printed poster size there (not sure if they charged for it), which is where RallyeXpress likely got the poster made
I am sure you will see this shot everywhere because there was about two dozen photographers (including myself) with long lenses there that got the same shot. (and why I hate shooting events like this)
Cool that RallyeXpress got them to sign sign it and auction it off though[/QUOTE]
I don't care if I'm going to see that shot everywhere, I want to see it in 24x36 in my garage. Sorry to hear that you hate shooting events like this. I do believe you had the choice to stand there and take the same shot.
So booo hooo from all of us who didn't have the credentials to get down on the course, or the funds to even get to the event.
I just want to know if I can PayPal someone some bucks for a High Res. file (without copyright protection, I don't want any watermarks, etc...)of that shot so I can go get it jumbo sized.
I am sure you will see this shot everywhere because there was about two dozen photographers (including myself) with long lenses there that got the same shot. (and why I hate shooting events like this)
Cool that RallyeXpress got them to sign sign it and auction it off though[/QUOTE]
I don't care if I'm going to see that shot everywhere, I want to see it in 24x36 in my garage. Sorry to hear that you hate shooting events like this. I do believe you had the choice to stand there and take the same shot.
So booo hooo from all of us who didn't have the credentials to get down on the course, or the funds to even get to the event.
I just want to know if I can PayPal someone some bucks for a High Res. file (without copyright protection, I don't want any watermarks, etc...)of that shot so I can go get it jumbo sized.
| Mopho | 08-07-2006 02:48 AM |
[QUOTE=sirwrx273]I don't care if I'm going to see that shot everywhere, I want to see it in 24x36 in my garage. Sorry to hear that you hate shooting events like this. I do believe you had the choice to stand there and take the same shot.
So booo hooo from all of us who didn't have the credentials to get down on the course, or the funds to even get to the event.
I just want to know if I can PayPal someone some bucks for a High Res. file (without copyright protection, I don't want any watermarks, etc...)of that shot so I can go get it jumbo sized.[/QUOTE]
What the hell is your problem?! :rolleyes:
And credentials did not mean squat there, I was working for ESPN and I had to shoot from the seats like everyone else, so stick your poster up your arse!
So booo hooo from all of us who didn't have the credentials to get down on the course, or the funds to even get to the event.
I just want to know if I can PayPal someone some bucks for a High Res. file (without copyright protection, I don't want any watermarks, etc...)of that shot so I can go get it jumbo sized.[/QUOTE]
What the hell is your problem?! :rolleyes:
And credentials did not mean squat there, I was working for ESPN and I had to shoot from the seats like everyone else, so stick your poster up your arse!
| lummer shawn | 08-07-2006 03:17 AM |
[QUOTE=datageek]
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
[/QUOTE]
those were actually new cars built for xgames/the rest of the RA season, he hadnt used that car in competition yet.
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
[/QUOTE]
those were actually new cars built for xgames/the rest of the RA season, he hadnt used that car in competition yet.
| bjorn240 | 08-07-2006 06:43 AM |
And Travis doesn't have a rally road at his house. He's got a few motorcycle trails, but that's about it. The reason we were able to be reasonably competitive is that the roads were extremely tight and twisty (Colin and Nicky beat us badly on the faster stuff) and that it took some time for Colin to adjust to the notes. Oh yeah, and Travis drove the race od his (currently short) career. Put it all together and... 9 times out of 10, it would have gone the other way, but this time, it went our way.
- Christian
- Christian
| KC | 08-07-2006 08:05 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]And Travis doesn't have a rally road at his house. He's got a few motorcycle trails, but that's about it. The reason we were able to be reasonably competitive is that the roads were extremely tight and twisty (Colin and Nicky beat us badly on the faster stuff) and that it took some time for Colin to adjust to the notes. Oh yeah, and Travis drove the race od his (currently short) career. Put it all together and... 9 times out of 10, it would have gone the other way, but this time, it went our way.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
None-the-less.... you guys were there and performed a great feat. Great job. Only one retirement (I would have thought there would have been more as Gorman usually does eat cars of drivers that push hard) and you guys came out on top.
That's what competition is. Winning and losing. (Or as Ricky Bobbys Pa says "If you're not 1st, you're last.") :lol:
Any word yet (I know... 2 days later) if it'll happen next year? :)
--kC
(Oh, and I concur with many that say they should have also profiled the co-drivers more. They opened the rally coverage with a description mentioning that it was a team sport, but then focused most of the rest of the rally on the driver. Meh.)
- Christian[/QUOTE]
None-the-less.... you guys were there and performed a great feat. Great job. Only one retirement (I would have thought there would have been more as Gorman usually does eat cars of drivers that push hard) and you guys came out on top.
That's what competition is. Winning and losing. (Or as Ricky Bobbys Pa says "If you're not 1st, you're last.") :lol:
Any word yet (I know... 2 days later) if it'll happen next year? :)
--kC
(Oh, and I concur with many that say they should have also profiled the co-drivers more. They opened the rally coverage with a description mentioning that it was a team sport, but then focused most of the rest of the rally on the driver. Meh.)
| skuttledude | 08-07-2006 09:01 AM |
They'll only talk about the co-driver when the car crashes, beacuse, it would of course be the co-drivers fault;)
| KC | 08-07-2006 09:05 AM |
[QUOTE=Davis K Powers]They'll only talk about the co-driver when the car crashes, beacuse, it would of course be the co-drivers fault;)[/QUOTE]
:lol:
:lol:
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 10:34 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240][B]And Travis doesn't have a rally road at his house. He's got a few motorcycle trails, but that's about it[/B]. The reason we were able to be reasonably competitive is that the roads were extremely tight and twisty (Colin and Nicky beat us badly on the faster stuff) and that it took some time for Colin to adjust to the notes. Oh yeah, and Travis drove the race od his (currently short) career. Put it all together and... 9 times out of 10, it would have gone the other way, but this time, it went our way.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
thanks for the correction. but that is still more time behind the wheel than most drivers in the US get. we have a similar setup on my parents farm, but no rally car to drive on it just the rallycross machine.
9 out of 10 times it may not work but that 1 time is totally worth it. just like Colin cutting that jump. if it had worked he would have taken even more time off you guys. but it didnt, and thats rallying.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
thanks for the correction. but that is still more time behind the wheel than most drivers in the US get. we have a similar setup on my parents farm, but no rally car to drive on it just the rallycross machine.
9 out of 10 times it may not work but that 1 time is totally worth it. just like Colin cutting that jump. if it had worked he would have taken even more time off you guys. but it didnt, and thats rallying.
| bjorn240 | 08-07-2006 10:37 AM |
Travis doesn't have a rally car at home either. The cars live in Vermont. The car he rolled was brought down that day only for the ESPN promo.
Still, it's true that with testing, he probably does get more time in the car than most. But we're definitely worried about when Ken finishes his place (am I allowed to post the name?), and are looking at ways to get more, cheap, seat time.
But anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program.
Still, it's true that with testing, he probably does get more time in the car than most. But we're definitely worried about when Ken finishes his place (am I allowed to post the name?), and are looking at ways to get more, cheap, seat time.
But anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program.
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 10:43 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Travis doesn't have a rally car at home either. The cars live in Vermont. The car he rolled was brought down that day only for the ESPN promo.
Still, it's true that with testing, he probably does get more time in the car than most. But we're definitely worried about when Ken finishes his place (am I allowed to post the name?), and are looking at ways to get more, cheap, seat time.
But anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program.[/QUOTE]
wow i am way off today, just goes to show that i shouldnt assume. i figured that since kenny had a fleet of rally cars travis had one as well. :o
so what was more nerve wracking for you? watching the double back flip, the stages, or seeing Colin roll? sounds like it was quite a roller coaster.
Still, it's true that with testing, he probably does get more time in the car than most. But we're definitely worried about when Ken finishes his place (am I allowed to post the name?), and are looking at ways to get more, cheap, seat time.
But anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program.[/QUOTE]
wow i am way off today, just goes to show that i shouldnt assume. i figured that since kenny had a fleet of rally cars travis had one as well. :o
so what was more nerve wracking for you? watching the double back flip, the stages, or seeing Colin roll? sounds like it was quite a roller coaster.
| OBiWrX_3zero3 | 08-07-2006 10:52 AM |
Where can I see this race at or download it at?
| bjorn240 | 08-07-2006 10:57 AM |
Double backflip. I was really really nervous.
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 11:04 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Double backflip. I was really really nervous.[/QUOTE]
did you actually watch it happen live or watch the replay?
did you actually watch it happen live or watch the replay?
| KC | 08-07-2006 11:05 AM |
[QUOTE=OBiWrX_3zero3]Where can I see this race at or download it at?[/QUOTE]
Other threads.
Other threads.
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 11:14 AM |
It appeared that Nicky "rewrote" the pace notes into his format on the SSS given the in-car audio. Is there any verification of that?
| bjorn240 | 08-07-2006 11:24 AM |
Nicky did re-write the notes, in accordance with the Jnauary bulletin about that. I watched the double backflip live.
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Nicky did re-write the notes, in accordance with the Jnauary bulletin about that. I watched the double backflip live.[/QUOTE]
that must have been tough to not cover your eyes. scary but something so cool you dont want to miss it.
that must have been tough to not cover your eyes. scary but something so cool you dont want to miss it.
| dowroa | 08-07-2006 11:34 AM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]And Travis doesn't have a rally road at his house. He's got a few motorcycle trails, but that's about it. The reason we were able to be reasonably competitive is that the roads were extremely tight and twisty (Colin and Nicky beat us badly on the faster stuff) and that it took some time for Colin to adjust to the notes. Oh yeah, and Travis drove the race od his (currently short) career. Put it all together and... 9 times out of 10, it would have gone the other way, but this time, it went our way.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I think that Travis did a SUPERB job. It appears he had the weekend of his life, and I especially loved the fact they showed clips of his 'high speed off' in the Travis 'segment' where he rolled, and then was 'screaming like a mad man'. I wish they would have shown him climb out and run off to the road... that was a classic NASIOC moment for me ;)
Good job guys, and when watching the SS at the end, I thought that he and Colin had some of the best 'quick' lines out there... or at least it looked that way to me!
- dow
[b]Thread Reference:[/b]
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892947]Travis wrecking and laughing link on NASIOC ;)[/URL]
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I think that Travis did a SUPERB job. It appears he had the weekend of his life, and I especially loved the fact they showed clips of his 'high speed off' in the Travis 'segment' where he rolled, and then was 'screaming like a mad man'. I wish they would have shown him climb out and run off to the road... that was a classic NASIOC moment for me ;)
Good job guys, and when watching the SS at the end, I thought that he and Colin had some of the best 'quick' lines out there... or at least it looked that way to me!
- dow
[b]Thread Reference:[/b]
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892947]Travis wrecking and laughing link on NASIOC ;)[/URL]
| jlawrx | 08-07-2006 11:41 AM |
Man that's a sweet shot... I'm so envious of you guys and your media and pit passes...
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 11:52 AM |
[QUOTE=jlawrx]Man that's a sweet shot... I'm so envious of you guys and your media and pit passes...[/QUOTE]
service park was open on sat. i heard.
service park was open on sat. i heard.
| jlawrx | 08-07-2006 01:51 PM |
Yea I was in there on sat and met Colin and Nicky as well as all the other drivers but there were a lot of areas I couldn't get to with out "credentials" seemed like everyone and their mom had those passes but me. Just a lot of squishing around to get up front haha.
| The Tree | 08-07-2006 02:53 PM |
seriously....how do I get my hands on a copy of that poster ;)
PM me if you want also :D
PM me if you want also :D
| jmolaver | 08-07-2006 06:40 PM |
RallyeXpress that is a great series of shots -- my company does Art Reproduction and I'd be happy to print up those posters, most likely at a serious price break for the nabisco crowd, or we can just print them for you and you can resell them.
We can do anything from cheapish poster paper to a glossy canvas print you can have framed, at sizes up to 60 inches wide by 40 feet long.
let me know what you think :)
We can do anything from cheapish poster paper to a glossy canvas print you can have framed, at sizes up to 60 inches wide by 40 feet long.
let me know what you think :)
| webkris | 08-07-2006 08:03 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]None-the-less.... you guys were there and performed a great feat. Great job. Only one retirement (I would have thought there would have been more as Gorman usually does eat cars of drivers that push hard) and you guys came out on top.[/QUOTE]
2 Retirements... :(
Doug flipped the SRT4 and even after some intense rebuilding decided not to run the final stage. ([i]or was decided for him...[/i]) It was a bummer not to see much 2WD and we got even less after Kenny hurt himself and Doug flipped it. All he had to do was finish...
If anyone wants to see rally cars on the same stages - Gorman Ridge is in 2 weeks (Aug 19th) and has a great spectator area!
- Kris
2 Retirements... :(
Doug flipped the SRT4 and even after some intense rebuilding decided not to run the final stage. ([i]or was decided for him...[/i]) It was a bummer not to see much 2WD and we got even less after Kenny hurt himself and Doug flipped it. All he had to do was finish...
If anyone wants to see rally cars on the same stages - Gorman Ridge is in 2 weeks (Aug 19th) and has a great spectator area!
- Kris
| M. Hurst | 08-07-2006 08:32 PM |
[QUOTE=webkris]2 Retirements... :(
Doug flipped the SRT4 and even after some intense rebuilding decided not to run the final stage. ([i]or was decided for him...[/i]) It was a bummer not to see much 2WD ....
- Kris[/QUOTE]
The crew repaired the SRT4 on Thursday and had it good enough to race on Friday (and was approved by me to compete), but then they didn't realize the jump was a "double" on their first parctice run. (the other teams had a parade / recon on Friday) The ensuing second collision with planet Earth for the week mashed the front of the car, including the intercooler..I never told them that they couldn't run.
Doug flipped the SRT4 and even after some intense rebuilding decided not to run the final stage. ([i]or was decided for him...[/i]) It was a bummer not to see much 2WD ....
- Kris[/QUOTE]
The crew repaired the SRT4 on Thursday and had it good enough to race on Friday (and was approved by me to compete), but then they didn't realize the jump was a "double" on their first parctice run. (the other teams had a parade / recon on Friday) The ensuing second collision with planet Earth for the week mashed the front of the car, including the intercooler..I never told them that they couldn't run.
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 08:36 PM |
I take it the radiator/IC damage problem cited by Rally-America was from the nosedive into the motoX jump.
| jlawrx | 08-07-2006 08:38 PM |
Ah that explains the pic I saw of them sitting in the valley of the jump. Pretty unfortunate series of events...
| recce02 | 08-07-2006 08:53 PM |
[QUOTE=datageek]What is this "SCCA" thing you speak of? :)
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Just one clarification:
They did not run those roads this year at RIM. It was all of the normal RIM roads this year. None the less, they did run the Gorman roads in 05 but I don't remember Travis being at that one?
Peace out
Marvin
Gravel Crew Rally Team USA
Travis has been competing in the Rally America championship for the past two years, and competed in the SCCA ProRally the year before.
Both Travis's and Colin's cars were set up by the same group, Vermont Sports Car, and I believe they were basically the same car. (I could be wrong on that part...)
You do the math:
Colin's disadvantages:
- He first laid eyes on the car on Monday, with the stages being held on Wednesday.
- He's never run these roads before.
- He's used to running a recce and making his own, personal notes rather than using organizer-supplied notes.
- The organizer-supplied notes are in a totally different format from what he's used to.
- He's done four rallies in the past year.
Travis's advantages:
- He's been using this car for several rallies this season and is used to it.
- He ran these stages three months ago, at a rally that he won. Confidence booster much? IIRC, he's run these stages at least three times previously, so you could say he's kind of familiar with them.
- He's used to the organizer's notes format. (In fact, I'm sure his codriver still has the notes from when he ran the event back in April.)
- He's been rallying regularly for the past couple of years.
Sum up all those factors, do the math, and come up with whatever answer you want. I'll accept that it's possible that Colin was holding back -- but I'll accept that it's equally possible that he wasn't. Either way, I enjoyed the show, which is all I'm caring about at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Just one clarification:
They did not run those roads this year at RIM. It was all of the normal RIM roads this year. None the less, they did run the Gorman roads in 05 but I don't remember Travis being at that one?
Peace out
Marvin
Gravel Crew Rally Team USA
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 09:36 PM |
I watch that video again and Colin about clipped it on the first jump and rolled it. The 2nd time through he tried to cut it closer to avoid the long sweeper like Lauchlin did and just got the rear end of the car upset.
There is NO WAY that was staged.
There is NO WAY that was staged.
| Subie Gal | 08-07-2006 09:49 PM |
Naaah. That was not staged.
Colin nearly pulled that jump off.... NEARLY.
He had the car setup perfectly... it was awesome to watch
He was lining it up for the next corner BEFORE the yump.
He just got caught out juuuust a bit when the tire caught n over they went.
But he didnt hesitate... <---which cracks me up!
the guy is mad.
the guy is brilliant.
And I love him for it :D
God Bless Colin McCrash
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
p.s. Nice photo :D
Colin nearly pulled that jump off.... NEARLY.
He had the car setup perfectly... it was awesome to watch
He was lining it up for the next corner BEFORE the yump.
He just got caught out juuuust a bit when the tire caught n over they went.
But he didnt hesitate... <---which cracks me up!
the guy is mad.
the guy is brilliant.
And I love him for it :D
God Bless Colin McCrash
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
p.s. Nice photo :D
| Ice racer | 08-07-2006 10:13 PM |
Has anyone else had the same thought as I did after watching the repalys of the roll? It would be my guess that if Colin and Nicky were in a WRC spec car, like the Fabia they drove in Australia, that they might have gotten away with that jump and not rolled. It seems to me that the WRC car suspensions can absorb a landing a bit better than what their car did.
Do the full WRC spec cars have a better suspension than an Open class US spec car?
Do the full WRC spec cars have a better suspension than an Open class US spec car?
| esteve | 08-08-2006 02:35 AM |
These rally cars use manual trannies right?
So basically this madman had the uncanny ability and presense of mind to put it in neutral as he was starting to roll over, then put it in 1st and hammer the gas once he landed?? :lol:
So basically this madman had the uncanny ability and presense of mind to put it in neutral as he was starting to roll over, then put it in 1st and hammer the gas once he landed?? :lol:
| XenoWolf | 08-08-2006 03:05 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]Do the full WRC spec cars have a better suspension than an Open class US spec car?[/QUOTE]
I'd find it hard to believe otherwise, open-class cars consist of (for the most part, there are probably exceptions) 'bolt-on' pieces, whereas a WRC car would have suitable custom engineered pieces everywhere.
I'd find it hard to believe otherwise, open-class cars consist of (for the most part, there are probably exceptions) 'bolt-on' pieces, whereas a WRC car would have suitable custom engineered pieces everywhere.
| Kostamojen | 08-08-2006 03:31 AM |
[QUOTE=esteve]
So basically this madman had the uncanny ability and presense of mind to put it in neutral as he was starting to roll over, then put it in 1st and hammer the gas once he landed?? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Or put the clutch down, which was probably the case.
So basically this madman had the uncanny ability and presense of mind to put it in neutral as he was starting to roll over, then put it in 1st and hammer the gas once he landed?? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Or put the clutch down, which was probably the case.
| BurtonCR | 08-08-2006 09:34 AM |
[QUOTE=Kostamojen]Or put the clutch down, which was probably the case.[/QUOTE]
Yea, two feet in, clutch and brake.
Yea, two feet in, clutch and brake.
| greg donovan | 08-08-2006 10:33 AM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]I'd find it hard to believe otherwise, open-class cars consist of (for the most part, there are probably exceptions) 'bolt-on' pieces, whereas a WRC car would have suitable custom engineered pieces everywhere.[/QUOTE]
If VSC copied the designs of the prodrive built open class cars from a few years ago then these cars were quite a bit more than the typical bolt on open class cars.
the car lauchlin drove is prodrive built car that has been reshelled to look like an 04 and it has some pretty fancy stuff done to it and its subframes and suspension.
i have a feeling that a WRC car would have rolled too. the suspension wasnt the problem it was the way the tire hit the ground.
he took to big of a risk. had it paid off it would have been even more incredible than the rollover. it would have been a run that people would be studying for years trying to replicate. hell it still will be treated that way.
If VSC copied the designs of the prodrive built open class cars from a few years ago then these cars were quite a bit more than the typical bolt on open class cars.
the car lauchlin drove is prodrive built car that has been reshelled to look like an 04 and it has some pretty fancy stuff done to it and its subframes and suspension.
i have a feeling that a WRC car would have rolled too. the suspension wasnt the problem it was the way the tire hit the ground.
he took to big of a risk. had it paid off it would have been even more incredible than the rollover. it would have been a run that people would be studying for years trying to replicate. hell it still will be treated that way.
| Yotsuya | 08-08-2006 10:42 AM |
Any chance of getting Loeb for next year? ;)
| greg donovan | 08-08-2006 11:08 AM |
[QUOTE=Yotsuya]Any chance of getting Loeb for next year? ;)[/QUOTE]
i sure hope not.
however, the top six from this year should definately be invited again.
i sure hope not.
however, the top six from this year should definately be invited again.
| wvallwheeldrive | 08-08-2006 11:11 AM |
X-games rally = Rally America's all star rally
| greg donovan | 08-08-2006 11:16 AM |
[QUOTE=wvallwheeldrive]X-games rally = Rally America's all star rally[/QUOTE]
i agree.
colin was needed as a benchmark.
just about everyone knows who he is. i belong to a comic book forum and they all know who he is thanks to his video games.
and his new one, Dirt, sounds awesome.
i agree.
colin was needed as a benchmark.
just about everyone knows who he is. i belong to a comic book forum and they all know who he is thanks to his video games.
and his new one, Dirt, sounds awesome.
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