| FrostyAK | 08-03-2006 09:11 PM |
Da Matta hospitalized after colliding with deer
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[quote]ELKHART LAKE, Wisconsin (AP) - Champ Car driver Cristiano da Matta was airlifted to a hospital after his race car collided with a deer that wandered onto the track during a test session at Road America on Thursday.
Da Matta was airlifted to Theda Clark Memorial Hospital in Neenah. Champ Car series spokesman Steve Shunck said da Matta was unconscious when he was airlifted.
The 32-year-old Brazilian is the 2002 series champion and has 12 career victories. He is sixth in the series points standings this season.
Da Matta left Champ Car after winning the championship and drove for the Toyota Formula One team in 2003 and 2004.[/quote]
I hope he is ok.
- Chris
Da Matta was airlifted to Theda Clark Memorial Hospital in Neenah. Champ Car series spokesman Steve Shunck said da Matta was unconscious when he was airlifted.
The 32-year-old Brazilian is the 2002 series champion and has 12 career victories. He is sixth in the series points standings this season.
Da Matta left Champ Car after winning the championship and drove for the Toyota Formula One team in 2003 and 2004.[/quote]
I hope he is ok.
- Chris
| psg | 08-03-2006 09:19 PM |
OVELAND, Colo., Aug. 3, 2006 � Champ Car World Series driver Cristiano da Matta (#10 RuSPORT Ford-Cosworth / Lola / Bridgestone) underwent emergency surgery after being involved in an on-track incident during today�s open test session at Road America. Da Matta collided with a deer that had wandered onto the track, at approximately 3:08 pm CDT today.
Statement From Dr. Chris Pinderski, Champ Car Director of Medical Affairs:
�After arriving at Theda Clark Medical Center, a head CT scan showed Cristiano had suffered a subdural hematoma. He was urgently taken to the operating room for surgical removal of the hematoma and is now being observed in the intensive care unit.�
Updates concerning da Matta�s condition will be released when they become available.
RuSPORT has also announced that Justin Wilson and the No. 9 CDW / RuSPORT team will not participate in the final day of The Champ Car World Series Open Test at Road America on Friday, Aug. 3.
Statement From Dr. Chris Pinderski, Champ Car Director of Medical Affairs:
�After arriving at Theda Clark Medical Center, a head CT scan showed Cristiano had suffered a subdural hematoma. He was urgently taken to the operating room for surgical removal of the hematoma and is now being observed in the intensive care unit.�
Updates concerning da Matta�s condition will be released when they become available.
RuSPORT has also announced that Justin Wilson and the No. 9 CDW / RuSPORT team will not participate in the final day of The Champ Car World Series Open Test at Road America on Friday, Aug. 3.
| FrostyAK | 08-03-2006 09:38 PM |
I had no idea what a subdural hematoma was, so I looked it up:
[url]http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000713.htm[/url]
Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
- Chris
[url]http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000713.htm[/url]
Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
- Chris
| XenoWolf | 08-03-2006 09:39 PM |
Oh my god... that's horrible. What a freak accident...
| Bonzo | 08-03-2006 10:37 PM |
this sucks big time :(
My home track too. Maybe I should go hunting.
My home track too. Maybe I should go hunting.
| StuBeck | 08-03-2006 10:43 PM |
Wow, this is not good, I hope he's okay. :(
| PA04STI | 08-04-2006 12:59 AM |
[QUOTE=FrostyAK]I had no idea what a subdural hematoma was, so I looked it up:
[url]http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000713.htm[/url]
Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
- Chris[/QUOTE]\
I'm an Rn they can be dangerous and is very serious. The skull is like a nut shell and your brain is like a nut inside. This bleed makes the brain swell or the blood pushes on the brain and the brain cannot swell or be moved by the bleed very well because it is enclosed by the skull.
In very serious bleeds sometime a section of the skull has to be removed to let the brain swell or be moved by the bleed. In others they can just evacuate the bleed.
If the brain swells to much or the bleed bleeds too much you can die.
So it is very serious indeed hopefully he recovers. He got there quick and I'm sure they rushed him right into the OR so that is always good.
Matt
[url]http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000713.htm[/url]
Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
- Chris[/QUOTE]\
I'm an Rn they can be dangerous and is very serious. The skull is like a nut shell and your brain is like a nut inside. This bleed makes the brain swell or the blood pushes on the brain and the brain cannot swell or be moved by the bleed very well because it is enclosed by the skull.
In very serious bleeds sometime a section of the skull has to be removed to let the brain swell or be moved by the bleed. In others they can just evacuate the bleed.
If the brain swells to much or the bleed bleeds too much you can die.
So it is very serious indeed hopefully he recovers. He got there quick and I'm sure they rushed him right into the OR so that is always good.
Matt
| 06STi | 08-04-2006 01:04 AM |
[QUOTE=Bonzo]this sucks big time :(
My home track too. Maybe I should go hunting.[/QUOTE]
Time to call Ted Nugent ASAP!
My home track too. Maybe I should go hunting.[/QUOTE]
Time to call Ted Nugent ASAP!
| bdi | 08-04-2006 07:57 AM |
Thats terrible!
| cooleyjb | 08-04-2006 08:13 AM |
Has anyone heard where this happened on the track.
| RaceComp Engineering | 08-04-2006 08:58 AM |
He is in our prayers.
Myles
Myles
| chadblock | 08-04-2006 08:58 AM |
happened at entry to turn 6...
terrible terrible news...
i almost hit a deer at summit point, and a groundhog the size of an 18 wheeler at lime rock park,
scary stuff!!!
i hope he is ok
cb
terrible terrible news...
i almost hit a deer at summit point, and a groundhog the size of an 18 wheeler at lime rock park,
scary stuff!!!
i hope he is ok
cb
| cdvma | 08-04-2006 09:06 AM |
Wow incredible. Sounds like they took good care of him so I think the most damage he will have is just the mental aspect.
| cooleyjb | 08-04-2006 09:16 AM |
[QUOTE=chadblock]happened at entry to turn 6...
terrible terrible news...
[/QUOTE]
Well at least that's a relatively slow area.
I hope he does well.
My wife is a doctor here in WI and has only heard good things about the facility up in Neenah where he is.
Reminds me of the video IIRC in Austrailia where the kangaroo made it on to the course during a touring car race.
terrible terrible news...
[/QUOTE]
Well at least that's a relatively slow area.
I hope he does well.
My wife is a doctor here in WI and has only heard good things about the facility up in Neenah where he is.
Reminds me of the video IIRC in Austrailia where the kangaroo made it on to the course during a touring car race.
| AndyRoo | 08-04-2006 09:46 AM |
i always thought he was good enough to stay in F1.
hope he's okay.
hope he's okay.
| tdm74 | 08-04-2006 09:51 AM |
my thoughts are with him and his family :(
| Bonzo | 08-04-2006 10:15 AM |
[QUOTE=cooleyjb]Well at least that's a relatively slow area.
I hope he does well.
My wife is a doctor here in WI and has only heard good things about the facility up in Neenah where he is.
Reminds me of the video IIRC in Austrailia where the kangaroo made it on to the course during a touring car race.[/QUOTE]
entry to 6 is quite slow. I guess slow is a relative term for these cars.
Theda Clark is a high level trauma center. In my area (Fond du Lac) flights either get shipped to Theda or Madison.
I hope he does well.
My wife is a doctor here in WI and has only heard good things about the facility up in Neenah where he is.
Reminds me of the video IIRC in Austrailia where the kangaroo made it on to the course during a touring car race.[/QUOTE]
entry to 6 is quite slow. I guess slow is a relative term for these cars.
Theda Clark is a high level trauma center. In my area (Fond du Lac) flights either get shipped to Theda or Madison.
| artkevin | 08-04-2006 10:38 AM |
My thoughts are with him. It sounds like he will live but I hope he can have "normal" life if he can't get back in the car.
| Hotrodguru | 08-04-2006 12:09 PM |
Yeah he's such a nice guy. Talk to him a bit at the CHAMP car race that was just here in Houston. In 2000 and 2001 he came to our karting center with other drivers and raced all night long. Prayers are in order.
| Ferg | 08-04-2006 12:28 PM |
Sort of an update.
[QUOTE]Da Matta remains in critical condition
By David Malsher Friday, August 4th 2006, 16:23 GMT
Cristiano da Matta continues to recover from the serious head injury he incurred following a high speed shunt at Road America yesterday.
He remains in the critical care unit of Theda Clark Memorial Hospital in Neenah, Wisconsin, and is being constantly monitored.
Da Matta suffered a subdural hematoma - bleeding between the brain and the skull - to the right side of his head.
The 32-year-old Brazilian struck a deer at a 130mph part of the 4.048-mile course. Skidmarks on the track indicate da Matta saw the deer as he came over the crest of the hill approaching Turn 6, and RuSPORT engineers have revealed he had got down to 90mph but could not avoid the animal, which struck his crash helmet.
The RuSPORT car swerved right and had a side-on impact with the concrete wall just after the bridge, and slid along it, crossing the gravel trap at Turn 6 before relatively gently hitting the tyre wall.
The Champ Car Safety Team were on the scene within 40 seconds and found da Matta unconscious.
Da Matta was not taken to the Champ Car Medical Center but was instead airlifted straight from the scene and taken to Theda Clark.
Close friends and colleagues Bruno Junqueira and Oriol Servia are reported to be at his bedside in intensive care and are expected to be joined by Tony Kanaan and Christian Fittipaldi.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Da Matta remains in critical condition
By David Malsher Friday, August 4th 2006, 16:23 GMT
Cristiano da Matta continues to recover from the serious head injury he incurred following a high speed shunt at Road America yesterday.
He remains in the critical care unit of Theda Clark Memorial Hospital in Neenah, Wisconsin, and is being constantly monitored.
Da Matta suffered a subdural hematoma - bleeding between the brain and the skull - to the right side of his head.
The 32-year-old Brazilian struck a deer at a 130mph part of the 4.048-mile course. Skidmarks on the track indicate da Matta saw the deer as he came over the crest of the hill approaching Turn 6, and RuSPORT engineers have revealed he had got down to 90mph but could not avoid the animal, which struck his crash helmet.
The RuSPORT car swerved right and had a side-on impact with the concrete wall just after the bridge, and slid along it, crossing the gravel trap at Turn 6 before relatively gently hitting the tyre wall.
The Champ Car Safety Team were on the scene within 40 seconds and found da Matta unconscious.
Da Matta was not taken to the Champ Car Medical Center but was instead airlifted straight from the scene and taken to Theda Clark.
Close friends and colleagues Bruno Junqueira and Oriol Servia are reported to be at his bedside in intensive care and are expected to be joined by Tony Kanaan and Christian Fittipaldi.[/QUOTE]
| nKoan | 08-04-2006 01:32 PM |
Eep, this is awful. I hope for a speedy recovery.
| Italiano | 08-04-2006 01:42 PM |
:(
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| JoD | 08-04-2006 02:53 PM |
I feel so bad for him. Such a great guy. I remember at the USGP a few years ago how kind he was to all the fans who wanted his autograph in the parking lot...
Know he won't see this, but my prayers are with you Christiano.
Know he won't see this, but my prayers are with you Christiano.
| CirrusWRX | 08-04-2006 04:43 PM |
:(
Sounds like he did everything he could- what a scary incident.
Sounds like he did everything he could- what a scary incident.
| ghschirtz | 08-04-2006 05:05 PM |
God be with you and your family, Cristiano. Prayers are coming your way from So Cal.
George
George
| bouse1 | 08-04-2006 05:24 PM |
Damn, and right after things looked like they were turning around for him after a 2nd place finish last weekend. I really hope he pulls through, but it's too bad that he probably won't race anymore. This really sucks.
| legacydreamz | 08-04-2006 06:27 PM |
crazy scary, does anyone have a link to a vid?
| JZ oo7 | 08-04-2006 06:55 PM |
hope he makes a speedy recovery.
is he conscious?
is he conscious?
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 08-04-2006 07:22 PM |
[QUOTE=legacydreamz]crazy scary, does anyone have a link to a vid?[/QUOTE]
Shame, dont ask.
Good luck, Christiano. :(
Shame, dont ask.
Good luck, Christiano. :(
| StuBeck | 08-04-2006 07:50 PM |
[QUOTE=JZ oo7]hope he makes a speedy recovery.
is he conscious?[/QUOTE]
No, he's in a medically induced coma.
is he conscious?[/QUOTE]
No, he's in a medically induced coma.
| StuBeck | 08-04-2006 07:51 PM |
[QUOTE=legacydreamz]crazy scary, does anyone have a link to a vid?[/QUOTE]
Why would you want to see a driver almost die? There is no video because it was at a test.
Why would you want to see a driver almost die? There is no video because it was at a test.
| silver arrow | 08-04-2006 08:38 PM |
If anyone sees an update, please post it. Terrible accident.
| bemani | 08-05-2006 04:43 AM |
Wow that sucks. Maybe Champ Car needs to make drivers wear better helmets.
| StuBeck | 08-05-2006 09:21 AM |
Helmet had nothing to do with it, anyone has something weight 100 pounds hitting them directly in the head going 90 mph is going to be in trouble.
| RS_Racer | 08-05-2006 09:56 AM |
[QUOTE=bemani]Wow that sucks. Maybe Champ Car needs to make drivers wear better helmets.[/QUOTE]
Ummm, I'm sure these guys wear the best helmets available. WHy would a pro driver skimp on the most important safety device? As said before, taking a direct hit to the head at the speeds they run is going to do some damage.
Ummm, I'm sure these guys wear the best helmets available. WHy would a pro driver skimp on the most important safety device? As said before, taking a direct hit to the head at the speeds they run is going to do some damage.
| Morison | 08-05-2006 12:56 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]Helmet had nothing to do with it, anyone has something weight 100 pounds hitting them directly in the head going 90 mph is going to be in trouble.[/QUOTE]
you must have some prety small deer in your area
you must have some prety small deer in your area
| racerjon1 | 08-05-2006 01:11 PM |
90 is too slow a speed for those cars in that spot.. in the AMS car in the rain I hit 110 on that straight, so Champ car + dry, probably 140 or so.
spot in question:
[img]http://www.racerjon.com/pictures/jon/intoturn6.jpg[/img]
Just after the crest of the hill, and by just after I mean like 20 yards maybe, is the turn-in for turn six. The curbing on the outside is the exit curbing from 5. At other places at Road America there are huge fences, but as you see here, that's not one of them.
Jon K
spot in question:
[img]http://www.racerjon.com/pictures/jon/intoturn6.jpg[/img]
Just after the crest of the hill, and by just after I mean like 20 yards maybe, is the turn-in for turn six. The curbing on the outside is the exit curbing from 5. At other places at Road America there are huge fences, but as you see here, that's not one of them.
Jon K
| Ferg | 08-05-2006 01:30 PM |
[QUOTE=racerjon1]90 is too slow a speed for those cars in that spot.. in the AMS car in the rain I hit 110 on that straight, so Champ car + dry, probably 140 or so[/QUOTE]
Already been covered by the press.
[QUOTE]The 32-year-old Brazilian struck a deer at a 130mph part of the 4.048-mile course. Skidmarks on the track indicate da Matta saw the deer as he came over the crest of the hill approaching Turn 6, and RuSPORT engineers have revealed he had got down to 90mph but could not avoid the animal, which struck his crash helmet.[/QUOTE]
Already been covered by the press.
[QUOTE]The 32-year-old Brazilian struck a deer at a 130mph part of the 4.048-mile course. Skidmarks on the track indicate da Matta saw the deer as he came over the crest of the hill approaching Turn 6, and RuSPORT engineers have revealed he had got down to 90mph but could not avoid the animal, which struck his crash helmet.[/QUOTE]
| racerjon1 | 08-05-2006 01:38 PM |
hmm.. that is a different report than what came out on SpeedTV.com which wrote:
[quote]da Matta was heading for Turn 6 at Road America when the deer ran out in front of him and struck the right front of his RuSPORT Lola. The deer caromed into the cockpit as da Matta smashed into the tire barrier with his foot still planted on the throttle.[/quote]
That is still from their first report though, and from an observer, so if the team has made a statement with info from the data aquisition, then it would be more reliable of course.
Jon K
[quote]da Matta was heading for Turn 6 at Road America when the deer ran out in front of him and struck the right front of his RuSPORT Lola. The deer caromed into the cockpit as da Matta smashed into the tire barrier with his foot still planted on the throttle.[/quote]
That is still from their first report though, and from an observer, so if the team has made a statement with info from the data aquisition, then it would be more reliable of course.
Jon K
| Jay911 | 08-05-2006 03:29 PM |
I posted this in the thread on SpeedTV and I think it's worth posting here too.
I have seen plenty of deer, moose, and even donkey vs. road-going cars and trucks, in my job as a fire/rescue tech, and they do rack up pretty dramatically. Something we have to deal with, with the larger animals like moose, is that the center of mass is so high up that the initial collision (bumper/hood to legs) doesn't displace much energy at all. It's when the moose's body hits the windshield and rips half the roof off (as I once saw happen to an Explorer) that the major damage is done. Thinking about an OW car versus a deer, the distribution of mass vs. impact point is pretty similar, so I can appreciate how seriously da Matta would have been injured.
As for how the deer could get over an eight-foot fence, that's not even a hard jump for them. I live in a rural area and deer can do that kind of jump from a standing start.
I hope this doesn't sound morbid, but is there video or stills somewhere of the ordeal? It's not that I am interested in gore, but understanding how wrecks happen and what kind of damage is sustained is one of my hobbies, as part of my job. Learning how things like this transpire makes a big difference in how we sort out the aftermath (i.e. use the Jaws of Life, etc).
I have seen plenty of deer, moose, and even donkey vs. road-going cars and trucks, in my job as a fire/rescue tech, and they do rack up pretty dramatically. Something we have to deal with, with the larger animals like moose, is that the center of mass is so high up that the initial collision (bumper/hood to legs) doesn't displace much energy at all. It's when the moose's body hits the windshield and rips half the roof off (as I once saw happen to an Explorer) that the major damage is done. Thinking about an OW car versus a deer, the distribution of mass vs. impact point is pretty similar, so I can appreciate how seriously da Matta would have been injured.
As for how the deer could get over an eight-foot fence, that's not even a hard jump for them. I live in a rural area and deer can do that kind of jump from a standing start.
I hope this doesn't sound morbid, but is there video or stills somewhere of the ordeal? It's not that I am interested in gore, but understanding how wrecks happen and what kind of damage is sustained is one of my hobbies, as part of my job. Learning how things like this transpire makes a big difference in how we sort out the aftermath (i.e. use the Jaws of Life, etc).
| artkevin | 08-05-2006 03:34 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani]Wow that sucks. Maybe Champ Car needs to make drivers wear better helmets.[/QUOTE]
He wears the same Arai helmet that all the F1 guys wear.
[IMG]http://www.damattadesign.com/_img/products/49.1.jpg[/IMG]
He wears the same Arai helmet that all the F1 guys wear.
[IMG]http://www.damattadesign.com/_img/products/49.1.jpg[/IMG]
| StuBeck | 08-05-2006 03:47 PM |
[QUOTE=Morison]you must have some prety small deer in your area[/QUOTE]
Not really, I just don't know the average weight of a north american deer and didn't want to make an ass of myself by saying a figure way too high.
Not really, I just don't know the average weight of a north american deer and didn't want to make an ass of myself by saying a figure way too high.
| skafish | 08-05-2006 04:52 PM |
[QUOTE=Jay911]
As for how the deer could get over an eight-foot fence, that's not even a hard jump for them. I live in a rural area and deer can do that kind of jump from a standing start.
[/QUOTE]
I had an argument with a friend about this incident and how high deer can jump. I said the fence would have to be at least 15 feet tall around the entire track to keep the deer out. He claims 10 feet is plenty high. I think deer can scale a 10 footer. Just how high of a fence can deer actually scale???
Hope the best for Cristiano da Matta, class act, met him in his rookie year in CART.
As for how the deer could get over an eight-foot fence, that's not even a hard jump for them. I live in a rural area and deer can do that kind of jump from a standing start.
[/QUOTE]
I had an argument with a friend about this incident and how high deer can jump. I said the fence would have to be at least 15 feet tall around the entire track to keep the deer out. He claims 10 feet is plenty high. I think deer can scale a 10 footer. Just how high of a fence can deer actually scale???
Hope the best for Cristiano da Matta, class act, met him in his rookie year in CART.
| bknblk | 08-05-2006 08:34 PM |
Scale may not be the right word,maybe clear. I would think most deer would find a 10 foot fence tall enuff to give them pause. Normal 7 foot chain link I have seen deer cross but its pretty high. I think they are mostly path of least resistance types :) Elk farmers in the midwest use mostly 10' fencing IIRC.
Speedy recovery, Da Matta!
Speedy recovery, Da Matta!
| etirums | 08-05-2006 08:38 PM |
Driving fast near woods = frequent collisions with animals.
| silver arrow | 08-05-2006 08:56 PM |
[QUOTE=etirums]Driving fast near woods = frequent collisions with animals.[/QUOTE] :huh:
You = asshat
You = asshat
| etirums | 08-05-2006 09:06 PM |
Sorry if the obvious offends, but this country is not 100% asphalt yet, and occasionally an animal wanders into the road for a number of reasons. Sometimes the driver is going 25 mph, sometimes 140 mph. You do the math. I think higher fences would have been a good idea.
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 08-05-2006 09:28 PM |
Very unfortuante.
Keep him in your thoughts members.
Keep him in your thoughts members.
| StuBeck | 08-05-2006 09:46 PM |
[QUOTE=etirums]Driving fast near woods = frequent collisions with animals.[/QUOTE]
Nope, you're wrong.
Nope, you're wrong.
| silver arrow | 08-05-2006 10:05 PM |
[QUOTE=etirums]Sorry if the obvious offends, but this country is not 100% asphalt yet, and occasionally an animal wanders into the road for a number of reasons. Sometimes the driver is going 25 mph, sometimes 140 mph. You do the math. I think higher fences would have been a good idea.[/QUOTE]
Very calous attitude. He was in a race car on a closed circuit. That is not common for race cars to hit deer on course.
Darwin will find you sooner or latter. :disco:
Very calous attitude. He was in a race car on a closed circuit. That is not common for race cars to hit deer on course.
Darwin will find you sooner or latter. :disco:
| Bonzo | 08-06-2006 11:20 AM |
For the record Rd America sits on about 500 acres of land in the midst of the Kettle Moraine forest. A pretty big chunk. The "kettels" is an area touced heavily by the galciers a few years ago. It's hilly to say the least. The land in and around the track is challenging for any being and offers many places for wildlife to live w/o ever being seen.
The track is also fenced in with an 8 foot high chainlink with barbed wire above that. I'm guessing at least 9 foot overall height. As was mentioned earlier deer can scale these fences.
Another thing about tetsing vs race vs wildlife is during a race the large population of spectators at the track drive the deer back off the grounds. Whereas during testing the place is vacant allowing wildlife freedom.
This info came from todays paper that also listed Christiano's condition as still in an induced coma, stable with some swelling still present.
The track is also fenced in with an 8 foot high chainlink with barbed wire above that. I'm guessing at least 9 foot overall height. As was mentioned earlier deer can scale these fences.
Another thing about tetsing vs race vs wildlife is during a race the large population of spectators at the track drive the deer back off the grounds. Whereas during testing the place is vacant allowing wildlife freedom.
This info came from todays paper that also listed Christiano's condition as still in an induced coma, stable with some swelling still present.
| CirrusWRX | 08-06-2006 11:48 AM |
[QUOTE=silver arrow]Very calous attitude. He was in a race car on a closed circuit. That is not common for race cars to hit deer on course.
Darwin will find you sooner or latter. :disco:[/QUOTE]
I'd hardly call it a callous attidue. More like reality, but whatever you want to pretend, I suppose...
Deer don't seem to be impressed by racecars and nature doesn't give a rats ass how fast we go or what we drive. Elk, moose, cow, (yes cow), kangaroo, groundhogs, birds, etc.
It IS COMPLETELY common for racecars to hit animals of various shapes and sizes on "closed tracks" and it happens frequently. It is probably one of the scariest moments because evasive driving is typically impossible as the cars are already at the limit. If the object the size of a dog or smaller, hit it. If it's bigger, it might be best to try and avoid or minimize the impact because it's like hitting a tirewall with legs.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3843445199737375948&q=deer+race[/url]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1798918469841497100&q=kangaroo+race[/url]
There are two close calls for ya.
And a strike
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7rjLyoM34[/url]
I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.
Everybody does everything they can do to make racing as safe as possible, but the fact remains that it's dangerous and can be (and is) deadly.
You
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Reality & Everybody else
Come join us- it's way more fun over here!!!
Darwin will find you sooner or latter. :disco:[/QUOTE]
I'd hardly call it a callous attidue. More like reality, but whatever you want to pretend, I suppose...
Deer don't seem to be impressed by racecars and nature doesn't give a rats ass how fast we go or what we drive. Elk, moose, cow, (yes cow), kangaroo, groundhogs, birds, etc.
It IS COMPLETELY common for racecars to hit animals of various shapes and sizes on "closed tracks" and it happens frequently. It is probably one of the scariest moments because evasive driving is typically impossible as the cars are already at the limit. If the object the size of a dog or smaller, hit it. If it's bigger, it might be best to try and avoid or minimize the impact because it's like hitting a tirewall with legs.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3843445199737375948&q=deer+race[/url]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1798918469841497100&q=kangaroo+race[/url]
There are two close calls for ya.
And a strike
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7rjLyoM34[/url]
I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.
Everybody does everything they can do to make racing as safe as possible, but the fact remains that it's dangerous and can be (and is) deadly.
You
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Reality & Everybody else
Come join us- it's way more fun over here!!!
| Jay911 | 08-06-2006 11:54 AM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]cow, (yes cow)[/quote]
Seb Loeb made some hamburger a year or two ago, the video is out there.
[quote=CirrusWRX]I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.[/QUOTE]
There's also video of a touring car race (I think) in which a rabbit met an untimely demise at the front splitter of a Mercedes or BMW. That too was 'messy'. ;)
Seb Loeb made some hamburger a year or two ago, the video is out there.
[quote=CirrusWRX]I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.[/QUOTE]
There's also video of a touring car race (I think) in which a rabbit met an untimely demise at the front splitter of a Mercedes or BMW. That too was 'messy'. ;)
| silver arrow | 08-06-2006 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]I'd hardly call it a callous attidue. More like reality, but whatever you want to pretend, I suppose...
Deer don't seem to be impressed by racecars and nature doesn't give a rats ass how fast we go or what we drive. Elk, moose, cow, (yes cow), kangaroo, groundhogs, birds, etc.
It IS COMPLETELY common for racecars to hit animals of various shapes and sizes on "closed tracks" and it happens frequently. It is probably one of the scariest moments because evasive driving is typically impossible as the cars are already at the limit. If the object the size of a dog or smaller, hit it. If it's bigger, it might be best to try and avoid or minimize the impact because it's like hitting a tirewall with legs.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3843445199737375948&q=deer+race[/url]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1798918469841497100&q=kangaroo+race[/url]
There are two close calls for ya.
And a strike
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7rjLyoM34[/url]
I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.
Everybody does everything they can do to make racing as safe as possible, but the fact remains that it's dangerous and can be (and is) deadly.
You
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Reality & Everybody else
Come join us- it's way more fun over here!!![/QUOTE]
I didn't see any of those drives airlifted out in those videos. This thread is not a wildlife discussion, but for those concerned about Da Matta's condition. Again, it isn't common for a race car to hit a deer on a closed course, I don't see any video's you linked showing deer being hit, little alone causing head trauma.
You
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Courtesy and compasion & everybody else
Stay on your side and choke yourself :furious:
Deer don't seem to be impressed by racecars and nature doesn't give a rats ass how fast we go or what we drive. Elk, moose, cow, (yes cow), kangaroo, groundhogs, birds, etc.
It IS COMPLETELY common for racecars to hit animals of various shapes and sizes on "closed tracks" and it happens frequently. It is probably one of the scariest moments because evasive driving is typically impossible as the cars are already at the limit. If the object the size of a dog or smaller, hit it. If it's bigger, it might be best to try and avoid or minimize the impact because it's like hitting a tirewall with legs.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3843445199737375948&q=deer+race[/url]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1798918469841497100&q=kangaroo+race[/url]
There are two close calls for ya.
And a strike
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7rjLyoM34[/url]
I recall seeing a Daytona prototype obliterating a wood chuck a few months back on the last lap- that was messy.
Everybody does everything they can do to make racing as safe as possible, but the fact remains that it's dangerous and can be (and is) deadly.
You
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Reality & Everybody else
Come join us- it's way more fun over here!!![/QUOTE]
I didn't see any of those drives airlifted out in those videos. This thread is not a wildlife discussion, but for those concerned about Da Matta's condition. Again, it isn't common for a race car to hit a deer on a closed course, I don't see any video's you linked showing deer being hit, little alone causing head trauma.
You
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Courtesy and compasion & everybody else
Stay on your side and choke yourself :furious:
| Bonzo | 08-06-2006 12:14 PM |
Thanks to Silver Arrow for putting this thread in perspective and back ON topic.
| ptclaus98 | 08-06-2006 01:21 PM |
On the lighter side of this is when Jenson Button hit a bird during a practice.
-ptclaus98
"That's the first time I've been unhappy to have a bird on my face."-Jenson Button
-ptclaus98
"That's the first time I've been unhappy to have a bird on my face."-Jenson Button
| OnTheGas | 08-06-2006 03:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Bonzo]...todays paper... listed Christiano's condition as still in an induced coma, stable with some swelling still present.[/QUOTE]Thank you!
| rupertberr | 08-07-2006 12:12 AM |
Former Pikes Peak Hill Climb Champion Bobby Donner Jr was killed in 1990 when he hit a deer in his open cockpit race car at a Colorado Hill Climb Association race. His brother is multi time PPIHC Champion David Donner.
Stefan Johanson hit a Deer at the Osterriechring in his F1 McLaren in 1987. Impact was at 150 mph but luckily he sweved just enough so that he didn't hit the deer head on. Instead the deer ripped off his left front wheel and left side pod. It was later discovered that Stefan had broken a rib in the accident.
My prayers and thoughts are with DaMatta and his family. :(
Stefan Johanson hit a Deer at the Osterriechring in his F1 McLaren in 1987. Impact was at 150 mph but luckily he sweved just enough so that he didn't hit the deer head on. Instead the deer ripped off his left front wheel and left side pod. It was later discovered that Stefan had broken a rib in the accident.
My prayers and thoughts are with DaMatta and his family. :(
| artkevin | 08-07-2006 10:14 AM |
From autosport:
The Brazilian driver community in Formula One have always been a close-knit group, and nothing proved that more in Hungary in the aftermath of Cristiano da Matta's Champ Car testing crash.
News of da Matta's accident was greeted with disbelief by almost everyone in the paddock when it filtered through on Friday morning, but it was the Brazilian drivers who felt it the most.
That was why, on Friday afternoon, the Brazilian contingent in the paddock - including Rubens Barrichello and Felipe Massa - all congregated at Toyota's motorhome to offer their prayers for da Matta.
Toyota themselves, for whom da Matta drove in 2003 and part of 2004, also wrote a letter to da Matta's family to offer their support in the aftermath of the accident.
The Brazilian driver community in Formula One have always been a close-knit group, and nothing proved that more in Hungary in the aftermath of Cristiano da Matta's Champ Car testing crash.
News of da Matta's accident was greeted with disbelief by almost everyone in the paddock when it filtered through on Friday morning, but it was the Brazilian drivers who felt it the most.
That was why, on Friday afternoon, the Brazilian contingent in the paddock - including Rubens Barrichello and Felipe Massa - all congregated at Toyota's motorhome to offer their prayers for da Matta.
Toyota themselves, for whom da Matta drove in 2003 and part of 2004, also wrote a letter to da Matta's family to offer their support in the aftermath of the accident.
| artkevin | 08-08-2006 11:30 AM |
More good news:
Da Matta condition improving
By Tim Redmayne Tuesday, August 8th 2006, 09:48 GMT
Doctors treating Cristiano Da Matta believe the Brazilian's condition is improving.
Da Matta is still under sedation following an operation, after suffering a traumatic brain injury as a result of hitting a deer at high speed during testing at Elkhart Lake last week.
However, doctors are slowly beginning to reduce the level of his sedation as he recovers.
Champ Car medical director Dr Chris Pinderski flew to the hospital to monitor the condition of da Matta.
"Cristiano continues to make slow but steady progress," said a statement. "At this point in his recovery, Dr Johnson has begun to decrease Cristiano's sedation.
"The care Cristiano has been receiving has been excellent, and he'll remain in the Intensive Care Unit while his condition and progress are being monitored."
Da Matta condition improving
By Tim Redmayne Tuesday, August 8th 2006, 09:48 GMT
Doctors treating Cristiano Da Matta believe the Brazilian's condition is improving.
Da Matta is still under sedation following an operation, after suffering a traumatic brain injury as a result of hitting a deer at high speed during testing at Elkhart Lake last week.
However, doctors are slowly beginning to reduce the level of his sedation as he recovers.
Champ Car medical director Dr Chris Pinderski flew to the hospital to monitor the condition of da Matta.
"Cristiano continues to make slow but steady progress," said a statement. "At this point in his recovery, Dr Johnson has begun to decrease Cristiano's sedation.
"The care Cristiano has been receiving has been excellent, and he'll remain in the Intensive Care Unit while his condition and progress are being monitored."
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