| ptclaus98 | 10-22-2006 08:40 PM |
[QUOTE=Wr4wrX;15705651][B][SIZE="5"]Ciao Kimi[/SIZE][/B]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
The look on Kimi's face is priceless.
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[IMG]http://www.f1total.com/bilder/2006/gp/0618bra/so/032.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The look on Kimi's face is priceless.
| rubinm | 10-22-2006 11:18 PM |
Hey! heard the shout out for NASIOC on speed today!!! i was lovin it! which one of you clever lads decided to give speed a ring and get in their shout outs? good goin!!
| BlueWRX | 10-22-2006 11:22 PM |
thanks michael for 16 years of great racing!!!!
| OnTheGas | 10-23-2006 10:04 AM |
Look who else found it to be a very exciting race...
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[quote][i][URL="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/55384"]Renault's director of engineering, Pat Symonds[/URL][/i] on the 2006 Brazilian GP:
It was so nerve wracking. I have had 30 years in the sport and I can never remember anything as nerve wracking as today. We were fighting against a car that was unbelievably quicker than us.
In a normal race, with the incidents that happen and the situations that happen, with a normal car and normal driver, you would have said by lap 20 that we were okay, we are comfortable.
But I really didn't feel comfortable until Michael (Schumacher) got past Kimi (Raikkonen) and I looked at the gaps and thought he still had to overtake. That was the first time I thought that maybe it was there.[/quote]The Ferrari's were turning much faster lap times. Michael said that his car could have lapped much of the field, (and essentially he did just that).
Renault was lucky to win the constructors in Brazil... As the Michelin's were no match for the B'Stones. So if Michael's car had not broken in qualifying, and the Toyotas had not failed in the race, it is likely we would have seen an all B'Stone podium... Michael, Felipe, Jarno, w/Ralfie high in the points as well. And of course, Webber's B'Stone shod Williams could have been a problem for Fisi as well.
The constructor's championship was where Renault was more vulnerable, since they went into Brazil with a 9 point lead. Let's say that Ferrari had grabbed maximum points, 18, and Toyota had one car on the podium, with Alonso in 4th. That would be 13 points for Ferrari. Then let's say that Fisi had grabbed the next spot, 5th, which would be 4 more points. That scenario would give Ferrari only 9 additional points, and the red team and the blue team would have been tied in points. So I speculate that going in to qualifying, and then Saturday evening, this is what Pat Symonds, and Renault, were worried about... Well, that and that Alonso's car doesn't break in the race.
So Sunday was a very happy day for the Renault team...
It was so nerve wracking. I have had 30 years in the sport and I can never remember anything as nerve wracking as today. We were fighting against a car that was unbelievably quicker than us.
In a normal race, with the incidents that happen and the situations that happen, with a normal car and normal driver, you would have said by lap 20 that we were okay, we are comfortable.
But I really didn't feel comfortable until Michael (Schumacher) got past Kimi (Raikkonen) and I looked at the gaps and thought he still had to overtake. That was the first time I thought that maybe it was there.[/quote]The Ferrari's were turning much faster lap times. Michael said that his car could have lapped much of the field, (and essentially he did just that).
Renault was lucky to win the constructors in Brazil... As the Michelin's were no match for the B'Stones. So if Michael's car had not broken in qualifying, and the Toyotas had not failed in the race, it is likely we would have seen an all B'Stone podium... Michael, Felipe, Jarno, w/Ralfie high in the points as well. And of course, Webber's B'Stone shod Williams could have been a problem for Fisi as well.
The constructor's championship was where Renault was more vulnerable, since they went into Brazil with a 9 point lead. Let's say that Ferrari had grabbed maximum points, 18, and Toyota had one car on the podium, with Alonso in 4th. That would be 13 points for Ferrari. Then let's say that Fisi had grabbed the next spot, 5th, which would be 4 more points. That scenario would give Ferrari only 9 additional points, and the red team and the blue team would have been tied in points. So I speculate that going in to qualifying, and then Saturday evening, this is what Pat Symonds, and Renault, were worried about... Well, that and that Alonso's car doesn't break in the race.
So Sunday was a very happy day for the Renault team...
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 10:17 AM |
You're making a big assumption that that Toyotas had genuine race pace.
Had they lasted more than a handful of laps I suspect they would have three stopped themselves backwards like they always do.
On another note, I'm [i]so[/i] glad the season is over. :D
Had they lasted more than a handful of laps I suspect they would have three stopped themselves backwards like they always do.
On another note, I'm [i]so[/i] glad the season is over. :D
| NYEJ25 | 10-23-2006 11:21 AM |
I'm going to say this now, someone please remember I posted this and quote me next year.
Red Bull Racing will be the surprise of next season. They will compete for the championship!
Red Bull Racing will be the surprise of next season. They will compete for the championship!
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 11:28 AM |
So noted :)
Facts & Stats from Brazil.
[QUOTE][B][SIZE="4"]2006 Brazilian GP: Facts & Stats[/SIZE][/B]
[I]Sean Kelly analyses the results and the stats from the Brazilian Grand Prix, and he offers perspective on the performance of the drivers and teams
By Sean Kelly
autosport.com writer[/I]
Fernando Alonso won the world championship, Felipe Massa won the race, but it is Michael Schumacher's contribution to a thrilling Brazilian Grand Prix that will live longest in the memory.
Having only won once in his career when starting lower than seventh on the grid (something he's done 24 times overall), perhaps we shouldn't have expected Schumacher to be a contender for victory at Interlagos, but there's no doubting that his pace was more than good enough.
After stopping for a new rear tyre on lap 10, Schumacher was 63 seconds behind Kimi Raikkonen. It took him 59 laps to catch and pass the Finn, ultimately for fourth place. The fastest 12 individual laps were all set by Schumacher, proving he's not retiring due to lack of speed. His fastest lap, the 76th of his career, was 0.715 seconds clear of even Felipe Massa.
In his 250th Grand Prix appearance - his 247th start - he wasn't able to emulate Luigi Fagioli and Jim Clark as a winner on his last F1 start, and Schumacher even suffered the rare indignity of having one of his records taken away from him. By finishing second, Fernando Alonso became the youngest ever double champion at 25 years and 85 days, beating Schumacher's 1994/95 double, clinched when the German was 26 years 292 days old.
Alonso is only the third driver to clinch back-to-back titles at the same circuit, and the first away from Suzuka. Ayrton Senna (1990/91) and Mika Hakkinen (1998/99) both clinched at the Japanese circuit, but it's never been achieved elsewhere until now.
Neither Schumacher nor Alonso could mount a realistic challenge to Felipe Massa, who became the first home winner in Brazil since Ayrton Senna in 1993. Until this weekend, Massa had led Schumacher on the race track for just 130 of the 1040 racing laps this season (12%), and been headed from start-to-finish 10 times in 17 races. For the first (and only) time on Sunday, Massa led Schumacher for the whole duration of a race.
The Brazilian is the 17th different winner in 24 races at Interlagos - cementing third place in the championship - and he was the first to win from pole position on this circuit since Hakkinen back in 1998. On Michelin's farewell appearance, it was Bridgestone who scored the clean sweep of pole, victory and fastest lap.
Away from the three headline-makers, Jenson Button had a strong run to third place. It's only his third podium of the year, but it was his seventh consecutive score, the longest current streak. Proving that Michael Schumacher wasn't the only man going flat-out to the flag, Button set his personal best lap on the final tour, as he attempted to wrest second place from Alonso.
The highlight of Button's drive was his audacious pass of Raikkonen on lap 29, and the Finn was also passed by Schumacher at the end. Fifth place was disappointing on a weekend where he scored his first ever front row slot at Interlagos. For McLaren, it was their 265th front row start, breaking a tie for second all-time with Williams (Ferrari are still way ahead, on 428).
Teammate Pedro de la Rosa will have been mildly frustrated to be outqualified by Raikkonen in all of their eight races as teammates in 2006, and he finished eighth in a race at Interlagos for the third time in his four appearances on this circuit. However, this was the first time he'd scored a point here (the previous times were in 2000 and 2002, when points were only awarded down to sixth place).
Probably watching Massa's exploits with some envy, Rubens Barrichello at least managed to finish this time, having suffered nine consecutive Interlagos retirements from 1995 to 2003 (including retiring from the lead of the 2002 and 2003 races). Barrichello was passed on-track a total of 49 times this season, the most of any driver. By contrast, Super Aguri's Takuma Sato was only passed 42 times, and Alonso was only overtaken three times - twice by his own teammate.
Speaking of Sato, scoring Super Aguri's first ever top-ten finish on Sunday would normally be cause for celebration in itself. However, the real encouragement can be found in the fastest lap column. Sato set the ninth fastest lap of the race.... and wasn't the quickest Super Aguri driver. Sakon Yamamoto amazingly set the seventh quickest lap, better than point-scorers Barrichello and de la Rosa, and just a tenth shy of Raikkonen!
Toro Rosso again embarrassed their "senior" cousins at Red Bull, as both drivers were ahead of the Ferrari-powered squad on the grid. Tonio Liuzzi takes the crown for most positions gained on the first lap this season, passing 46 cars at the start of races, while Scott Speed is the only man to have finished the last eight Grands Prix. This was the last appearance for a V10 engine in Grand Prix racing, a configuration that first appeared in 1989.
More importantly, it was the last appearance for Cosworth, who have had an interrupted involvement in Formula One since their revolutionary Ford DFV V8 won first time out at the 1967 Dutch Grand Prix. All 176 of their victories were achieved under the Ford banner, and the only two podiums scored under their own name were with Jaguar - Eddie Irvine was third at the 2001 Monaco and 2002 Italian Grands Prix.
While the Toro Rossos had a solid race, the Cosworth-powered Williams team had yet another nightmare. For the second successive Brazilian GP, the Williams drivers collided with each other on the first lap, eliminating each other from contention. In Mark Webber's case it's the third year running where he's tangled with a team colleague, having also hit Christian Klien in 2004 when they were Jaguar teammates.
Another team who made a swift exit from Interlagos were Toyota, who suffered identical rear suspension failures on Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher's cars. It meant BMW-Sauber clinched fifth place in the Constructors Championship, despite neither Robert Kubica nor Nick Heidfeld scoring in Sunday's race.
Bernie Ecclestone celebrates his 76th birthday this coming Saturday, and he will no doubt be pleased that this championship decider was free of controversy, instead packed with incident, emotion, and great racing. Best of all, there are a mere 146 days left until the 2007 Australian Grand Prix....[/QUOTE]
See you all next season :D
Facts & Stats from Brazil.
[QUOTE][B][SIZE="4"]2006 Brazilian GP: Facts & Stats[/SIZE][/B]
[I]Sean Kelly analyses the results and the stats from the Brazilian Grand Prix, and he offers perspective on the performance of the drivers and teams
By Sean Kelly
autosport.com writer[/I]
Fernando Alonso won the world championship, Felipe Massa won the race, but it is Michael Schumacher's contribution to a thrilling Brazilian Grand Prix that will live longest in the memory.
Having only won once in his career when starting lower than seventh on the grid (something he's done 24 times overall), perhaps we shouldn't have expected Schumacher to be a contender for victory at Interlagos, but there's no doubting that his pace was more than good enough.
After stopping for a new rear tyre on lap 10, Schumacher was 63 seconds behind Kimi Raikkonen. It took him 59 laps to catch and pass the Finn, ultimately for fourth place. The fastest 12 individual laps were all set by Schumacher, proving he's not retiring due to lack of speed. His fastest lap, the 76th of his career, was 0.715 seconds clear of even Felipe Massa.
In his 250th Grand Prix appearance - his 247th start - he wasn't able to emulate Luigi Fagioli and Jim Clark as a winner on his last F1 start, and Schumacher even suffered the rare indignity of having one of his records taken away from him. By finishing second, Fernando Alonso became the youngest ever double champion at 25 years and 85 days, beating Schumacher's 1994/95 double, clinched when the German was 26 years 292 days old.
Alonso is only the third driver to clinch back-to-back titles at the same circuit, and the first away from Suzuka. Ayrton Senna (1990/91) and Mika Hakkinen (1998/99) both clinched at the Japanese circuit, but it's never been achieved elsewhere until now.
Neither Schumacher nor Alonso could mount a realistic challenge to Felipe Massa, who became the first home winner in Brazil since Ayrton Senna in 1993. Until this weekend, Massa had led Schumacher on the race track for just 130 of the 1040 racing laps this season (12%), and been headed from start-to-finish 10 times in 17 races. For the first (and only) time on Sunday, Massa led Schumacher for the whole duration of a race.
The Brazilian is the 17th different winner in 24 races at Interlagos - cementing third place in the championship - and he was the first to win from pole position on this circuit since Hakkinen back in 1998. On Michelin's farewell appearance, it was Bridgestone who scored the clean sweep of pole, victory and fastest lap.
Away from the three headline-makers, Jenson Button had a strong run to third place. It's only his third podium of the year, but it was his seventh consecutive score, the longest current streak. Proving that Michael Schumacher wasn't the only man going flat-out to the flag, Button set his personal best lap on the final tour, as he attempted to wrest second place from Alonso.
The highlight of Button's drive was his audacious pass of Raikkonen on lap 29, and the Finn was also passed by Schumacher at the end. Fifth place was disappointing on a weekend where he scored his first ever front row slot at Interlagos. For McLaren, it was their 265th front row start, breaking a tie for second all-time with Williams (Ferrari are still way ahead, on 428).
Teammate Pedro de la Rosa will have been mildly frustrated to be outqualified by Raikkonen in all of their eight races as teammates in 2006, and he finished eighth in a race at Interlagos for the third time in his four appearances on this circuit. However, this was the first time he'd scored a point here (the previous times were in 2000 and 2002, when points were only awarded down to sixth place).
Probably watching Massa's exploits with some envy, Rubens Barrichello at least managed to finish this time, having suffered nine consecutive Interlagos retirements from 1995 to 2003 (including retiring from the lead of the 2002 and 2003 races). Barrichello was passed on-track a total of 49 times this season, the most of any driver. By contrast, Super Aguri's Takuma Sato was only passed 42 times, and Alonso was only overtaken three times - twice by his own teammate.
Speaking of Sato, scoring Super Aguri's first ever top-ten finish on Sunday would normally be cause for celebration in itself. However, the real encouragement can be found in the fastest lap column. Sato set the ninth fastest lap of the race.... and wasn't the quickest Super Aguri driver. Sakon Yamamoto amazingly set the seventh quickest lap, better than point-scorers Barrichello and de la Rosa, and just a tenth shy of Raikkonen!
Toro Rosso again embarrassed their "senior" cousins at Red Bull, as both drivers were ahead of the Ferrari-powered squad on the grid. Tonio Liuzzi takes the crown for most positions gained on the first lap this season, passing 46 cars at the start of races, while Scott Speed is the only man to have finished the last eight Grands Prix. This was the last appearance for a V10 engine in Grand Prix racing, a configuration that first appeared in 1989.
More importantly, it was the last appearance for Cosworth, who have had an interrupted involvement in Formula One since their revolutionary Ford DFV V8 won first time out at the 1967 Dutch Grand Prix. All 176 of their victories were achieved under the Ford banner, and the only two podiums scored under their own name were with Jaguar - Eddie Irvine was third at the 2001 Monaco and 2002 Italian Grands Prix.
While the Toro Rossos had a solid race, the Cosworth-powered Williams team had yet another nightmare. For the second successive Brazilian GP, the Williams drivers collided with each other on the first lap, eliminating each other from contention. In Mark Webber's case it's the third year running where he's tangled with a team colleague, having also hit Christian Klien in 2004 when they were Jaguar teammates.
Another team who made a swift exit from Interlagos were Toyota, who suffered identical rear suspension failures on Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher's cars. It meant BMW-Sauber clinched fifth place in the Constructors Championship, despite neither Robert Kubica nor Nick Heidfeld scoring in Sunday's race.
Bernie Ecclestone celebrates his 76th birthday this coming Saturday, and he will no doubt be pleased that this championship decider was free of controversy, instead packed with incident, emotion, and great racing. Best of all, there are a mere 146 days left until the 2007 Australian Grand Prix....[/QUOTE]
See you all next season :D
| tdm74 | 10-23-2006 11:29 AM |
what was Kimi doing while Pele was presenting Michael with a trophy
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9btlNQW20[/url]
:lol: :lol:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9btlNQW20[/url]
:lol: :lol:
| WRX11 | 10-23-2006 11:31 AM |
[QUOTE=rubinm;15707671]Hey! heard the shout out for NASIOC on speed today!!! i was lovin it! which one of you clever lads decided to give speed a ring and get in their shout outs? good goin!![/QUOTE]I was like, that's cool. :D
| NYEJ25 | 10-23-2006 12:05 PM |
[QUOTE=tdm74;15712045]what was Kimi doing while Pele was presenting Michael with a trophy
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9btlNQW20[/url]
:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Thats great. Gotta love Kimi!:lol: :lol: :lol:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9btlNQW20[/url]
:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Thats great. Gotta love Kimi!:lol: :lol: :lol:
| artkevin | 10-23-2006 01:09 PM |
I couldn't be happier for Freddy. He is SCREWED next year so it was his last shot for quite some time. I hope I am wrong but McLaren did not look good all year long. It was great to hear him get more and more emotional as he was on his cool down lap.
Great race from Massa. I am sure Brazil is still in the middle fo the party for a Ferrari with a Brazilian behind the wheel winning.
Looking forward to 07. A butt load of changes and a title that is truly up for grabs. The 3 best drivers in the 3 best teams have all changed teams or left the game.
Great race from Massa. I am sure Brazil is still in the middle fo the party for a Ferrari with a Brazilian behind the wheel winning.
Looking forward to 07. A butt load of changes and a title that is truly up for grabs. The 3 best drivers in the 3 best teams have all changed teams or left the game.
| OnTheGas | 10-23-2006 01:27 PM |
On what could have been for Toyota @ Brazil...
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[QUOTE=Ferg;15711139]You're making a big assumption that that Toyotas had genuine race pace.
Had they lasted more than a handful of laps I suspect they would have three stopped themselves backwards like they always do.[/QUOTE]I see... Well, Ferg, that's not so friendly... While I've been incorrect plenty of times previously, you're wrong to think I had made such an assumption, as I had read Toyota's post race press release:[quote][i][URL="http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=236833&FS=F1"]Tsutomu Tomita, Toyota Team Principal[/URL][/i]
Before the start of the race everything was okay - we were looking fine, the car was quick and the two drivers were motivated. The start was good but just after starting the race we suffered from serious problems - it was like a bad dream. It is still unbelievable for me.
We were obviously very fast and we had fuel for 23 and 24 laps as a result of the safety car so we were a bit heavier than most of the other cars around us. According to what we have seen from the other cars we had a good chance of taking second place. Both cars experienced a rear suspension failure of the central element, which was not a new part.[/quote][quote][i][URL="http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=236833&FS=F1"]Jarno Trulli[/URL][/i]
...After the safety car period, my tyres were just getting up to temperature and I was attacking Raikkonen. I am very disappointed because my car was extremely quick this weekend and we had a good strategy today.
It seems every time I have been doing a good race this year I have had a problem and have had to retire. It has been a very difficult season for me, very unlucky. I lost one podium in Monaco, one probably in Magny-Cours and once again here.[/quote]
Had they lasted more than a handful of laps I suspect they would have three stopped themselves backwards like they always do.[/QUOTE]I see... Well, Ferg, that's not so friendly... While I've been incorrect plenty of times previously, you're wrong to think I had made such an assumption, as I had read Toyota's post race press release:[quote][i][URL="http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=236833&FS=F1"]Tsutomu Tomita, Toyota Team Principal[/URL][/i]
Before the start of the race everything was okay - we were looking fine, the car was quick and the two drivers were motivated. The start was good but just after starting the race we suffered from serious problems - it was like a bad dream. It is still unbelievable for me.
We were obviously very fast and we had fuel for 23 and 24 laps as a result of the safety car so we were a bit heavier than most of the other cars around us. According to what we have seen from the other cars we had a good chance of taking second place. Both cars experienced a rear suspension failure of the central element, which was not a new part.[/quote][quote][i][URL="http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=236833&FS=F1"]Jarno Trulli[/URL][/i]
...After the safety car period, my tyres were just getting up to temperature and I was attacking Raikkonen. I am very disappointed because my car was extremely quick this weekend and we had a good strategy today.
It seems every time I have been doing a good race this year I have had a problem and have had to retire. It has been a very difficult season for me, very unlucky. I lost one podium in Monaco, one probably in Magny-Cours and once again here.[/quote]
| OnTheGas | 10-23-2006 01:29 PM |
Dark horse surprises in '07 title chase
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[QUOTE=NYEJ25;15711938]I'm going to say this now, someone please remember I posted this and quote me next year.
Red Bull Racing will be the surprise of next season. They will compete for the championship![/QUOTE]I'm thinking Jenson and his Honda...
Red Bull Racing will be the surprise of next season. They will compete for the championship![/QUOTE]I'm thinking Jenson and his Honda...
| TimStevens | 10-23-2006 01:43 PM |
Word @ Racing-Live.com is that Scott may lose his seat next year to Doornbos :(
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 01:43 PM |
[QUOTE=OnTheGas;15713846]I see... Well, Ferg, that's not so friendly... While I've been incorrect plenty of times previously, you're wrong to think I had made such an assumption, as I had read Toyota's post race press release:[/QUOTE]
Well what else do you think they would say?
Look at their quali pace at Suzuka, it evaporated during the race. Toyota have shown time and time again their willingness to sacrifice race pace for starting grid headlines...quick during qualifying only to be shown out by a low fuel strategy. It's almost as predictable as McLaren running heavy.
I'm not saying the Toyotas wouldn't have finished well (I [i]always[/i] pull for Jarno) it's just that given their history it's unlikely they were really running heavier...
Well what else do you think they would say?
Look at their quali pace at Suzuka, it evaporated during the race. Toyota have shown time and time again their willingness to sacrifice race pace for starting grid headlines...quick during qualifying only to be shown out by a low fuel strategy. It's almost as predictable as McLaren running heavy.
I'm not saying the Toyotas wouldn't have finished well (I [i]always[/i] pull for Jarno) it's just that given their history it's unlikely they were really running heavier...
| RamzaRS | 10-23-2006 02:04 PM |
Screw Scott Speed. He sucks. We need either Marco Andretti (who is probably more like grandpa than his dad) or those 3 american prodigy drives that owned Vettel over the weekend. We need somebody with talent, not some stupid name.
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 02:08 PM |
Excellent contribution.
Charlie Kimball deserves a GP2 test at the very least.
As far as "owning" Vettel, um not so much.
Charlie Kimball deserves a GP2 test at the very least.
As far as "owning" Vettel, um not so much.
| Leonardo | 10-23-2006 02:32 PM |
[quote=rubinm;15707671]Hey! heard the shout out for NASIOC on speed today!!! i was lovin it! which one of you clever lads decided to give speed a ring and get in their shout outs? good goin!![/quote]
I presented the idea and someone wrote in.
I presented the idea and someone wrote in.
| IIdiceII | 10-23-2006 03:16 PM |
yea the shout out was cool^^
kimi "I was having a ****"
kimi "I was having a ****"
| StuBeck | 10-23-2006 04:16 PM |
I hope Speed stays around but I don't know if it will happen. Doornbos was very good in the races this year and he is probably a better DC replacement than Liuzzi is.
I think Red bull will be much better next year since they started working on the car so early and hopefully won't have the same problems with the engine like they did all year.
McLaren is in trouble for next year, at the end of the year they will have lost ALL of their drivers from the beginning of the season, and if Pafett finds a drive and de la Rosa is dropped, their entire driving lineup for the past 2 years will have gone. Look at the major hit Williams has taken (yes, they lost a lot of money, but they were running for the constructors championship in 03.) I could see Hyundai buying them out in a few years.
I think Red bull will be much better next year since they started working on the car so early and hopefully won't have the same problems with the engine like they did all year.
McLaren is in trouble for next year, at the end of the year they will have lost ALL of their drivers from the beginning of the season, and if Pafett finds a drive and de la Rosa is dropped, their entire driving lineup for the past 2 years will have gone. Look at the major hit Williams has taken (yes, they lost a lot of money, but they were running for the constructors championship in 03.) I could see Hyundai buying them out in a few years.
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 04:20 PM |
Hyundai? Interesting.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.
| artkevin | 10-23-2006 04:26 PM |
[QUOTE=RamzaRS;15714481]Screw Scott Speed. He sucks. We need either Marco Andretti (who is probably more like grandpa than his dad) or those 3 american prodigy drives that owned Vettel over the weekend. We need somebody with talent, not some stupid name.[/QUOTE]
Man, such hostility. I think he has done a good job in 06. Remember, that team is a better looking Minardi for all intents and purposes. Vit is a really good driver by most accounts and only scored 1 point. Scott scored a point in Melbourne (removed later) so I don't know how you can say that he sucks.
As far as Marco goes, good driver, better car as far as I can tell. He has talent and really impressed at Watkins Glen and Sears Point but I would have to see him in a F1 car to make up my mind about him. An IRL car is a huge step down from and F1 car.
Man, such hostility. I think he has done a good job in 06. Remember, that team is a better looking Minardi for all intents and purposes. Vit is a really good driver by most accounts and only scored 1 point. Scott scored a point in Melbourne (removed later) so I don't know how you can say that he sucks.
As far as Marco goes, good driver, better car as far as I can tell. He has talent and really impressed at Watkins Glen and Sears Point but I would have to see him in a F1 car to make up my mind about him. An IRL car is a huge step down from and F1 car.
| bitterWRX | 10-23-2006 04:42 PM |
[QUOTE=RamzaRS;15714481]Screw Scott Speed. He sucks. We need either Marco Andretti (who is probably more like grandpa than his dad) or those 3 american prodigy drives that owned Vettel over the weekend. We need somebody with talent, not some stupid name.[/QUOTE]
Scott Speed sucks? You're totally attributing his skills with an inexperienced team and a bad car. He made do with the opportunity he has and I believe he has done a good job with it. Yeah, compared to the other rookies (Kubica, Rosberg ([I]maybe[/I])), he doesn't look as good but then again, the other rookies had a better package altogether. I hope he makes you eat your words next season.
Scott Speed sucks? You're totally attributing his skills with an inexperienced team and a bad car. He made do with the opportunity he has and I believe he has done a good job with it. Yeah, compared to the other rookies (Kubica, Rosberg ([I]maybe[/I])), he doesn't look as good but then again, the other rookies had a better package altogether. I hope he makes you eat your words next season.
| bitterWRX | 10-23-2006 04:47 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;15716654]Hyundai? Interesting.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I read about Hyundai being interested in joining F1. I think they're interested in joining because of Korea's deal to host a GP in 2010. I'm guessing that if they had a Korean team in the F1 arena, it'll be much easier to secure more GPs in Korea in the years to follow.
I also wished that the VW group (or even Porsche) would have a go at F1. But I think that they are much more concerned with Le Mans since they've been sweeping the compeitition on their first year out with their R10 Diesel.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I read about Hyundai being interested in joining F1. I think they're interested in joining because of Korea's deal to host a GP in 2010. I'm guessing that if they had a Korean team in the F1 arena, it'll be much easier to secure more GPs in Korea in the years to follow.
I also wished that the VW group (or even Porsche) would have a go at F1. But I think that they are much more concerned with Le Mans since they've been sweeping the compeitition on their first year out with their R10 Diesel.
| StuBeck | 10-23-2006 05:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;15716654]Hyundai? Interesting.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.[/QUOTE]
I think McLaren could have a year like last year where they are bad the first part and then halfway through the season they figure it out. Having Alonso and Hamilton will be a strong driver line up.
I took the Hyundai comment from an autosport article. It makes sense since they aren't big in other forms of motorsport anymore and have their finances figured out.
I think Audi doing so well in Le Mans has made it hard for them to go to F1. They have dominated it for the past while so going to F1 and sucking hard will mean their stock will go down. It is also why they don't go back into WRC with the Audi name, they dominated in the 80's when no one else was running AWD.
I would hope that the VW group would pull the trigger on F1 with either Audi or Lambo...
I agree about McLaren being in a potentially bad place next season, but at least they have Alonso.[/QUOTE]
I think McLaren could have a year like last year where they are bad the first part and then halfway through the season they figure it out. Having Alonso and Hamilton will be a strong driver line up.
I took the Hyundai comment from an autosport article. It makes sense since they aren't big in other forms of motorsport anymore and have their finances figured out.
I think Audi doing so well in Le Mans has made it hard for them to go to F1. They have dominated it for the past while so going to F1 and sucking hard will mean their stock will go down. It is also why they don't go back into WRC with the Audi name, they dominated in the 80's when no one else was running AWD.
| ptclaus98 | 10-23-2006 05:52 PM |
[QUOTE=RamzaRS;15714481]Screw Scott Speed. He sucks. We need either Marco Andretti (who is probably more like grandpa than his dad) or those 3 american prodigy drives that owned Vettel over the weekend. We need somebody with talent, not some stupid name.[/QUOTE]
Wow, just shut up, really. Andretti may be good, but he's not leaps and bounds better than Speed. Speed would probably walk all over Marco in F1.
I mean if he's so great, why don't I hear his name outside of IndyCar?
Wow, just shut up, really. Andretti may be good, but he's not leaps and bounds better than Speed. Speed would probably walk all over Marco in F1.
I mean if he's so great, why don't I hear his name outside of IndyCar?
| ptclaus98 | 10-23-2006 05:54 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;15717386]I think McLaren could have a year like last year where they are bad the first part and then halfway through the season they figure it out. Having Alonso and Hamilton will be a strong driver line up.
I took the Hyundai comment from an autosport article. It makes sense since they aren't big in other forms of motorsport anymore and have their finances figured out.
[B]I think Audi doing so well in Le Mans has made it hard for them to go to F1. [/B]They have dominated it for the past while so going to F1 and sucking hard will mean their stock will go down. It is also why they don't go back into WRC with the Audi name, they dominated in the 80's when no one else was running AWD.[/QUOTE]
I think the reason Audi stays out of F1 is because they couldn't use the Diesel engines. I wish F1 could have a variety of engines. That would be fun.
I took the Hyundai comment from an autosport article. It makes sense since they aren't big in other forms of motorsport anymore and have their finances figured out.
[B]I think Audi doing so well in Le Mans has made it hard for them to go to F1. [/B]They have dominated it for the past while so going to F1 and sucking hard will mean their stock will go down. It is also why they don't go back into WRC with the Audi name, they dominated in the 80's when no one else was running AWD.[/QUOTE]
I think the reason Audi stays out of F1 is because they couldn't use the Diesel engines. I wish F1 could have a variety of engines. That would be fun.
| MattDell | 10-23-2006 05:58 PM |
[QUOTE=RamzaRS;15714481]Screw Scott Speed. He sucks. We need either Marco Andretti (who is probably more like grandpa than his dad) or those 3 american prodigy drives that owned Vettel over the weekend. We need somebody with talent, not some stupid name.[/QUOTE]
Are you retarded? :huh:
In addition to the above comments, Speed was consistently quicker than Liuzzi, who had a whole extra season of experience than he! I also don't have the stats, but I believe his average finish was very close to Nico Rosberg's, who had much (I mean MUCH) better equipment.
Also, like David Hobbs (I think) said, Speed has matured very well this year. He went from "I don't care about anyone but myself. If you don't like me, tough" to "omg omg I'm racing in F1 omg omg I qualified 14th but I did awesome omg omg." That guy is always freaking happy.
-Matt
Are you retarded? :huh:
In addition to the above comments, Speed was consistently quicker than Liuzzi, who had a whole extra season of experience than he! I also don't have the stats, but I believe his average finish was very close to Nico Rosberg's, who had much (I mean MUCH) better equipment.
Also, like David Hobbs (I think) said, Speed has matured very well this year. He went from "I don't care about anyone but myself. If you don't like me, tough" to "omg omg I'm racing in F1 omg omg I qualified 14th but I did awesome omg omg." That guy is always freaking happy.
-Matt
| ArtGecko | 10-23-2006 06:39 PM |
[code]F1P6 Results
for group impreza.net
for the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
Rank Score F.Massa F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella R.Barrichello P.Rosa
57. 58 672 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button P.Rosa R.Barrichello
107. 55 744 Matt Doyle F.Massa M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button R.Kubica P.Rosa
55 682 Gary Lancaster M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Button F.Alonso K.Raikkonen R.Barrichello G.Fisichella R.Schumacher
192. 52 671 Scott Ripley F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa K.Raikkonen P.Rosa J.Button R.Barrichello
272. 51 642 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button R.Barrichello N.Heidfeld
554. 47 684 Mika Hyytiainen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella J.Button R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen N.Heidfeld
685. 45 672 Ony Anglade M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella R.Kubica M.Webber
785. 44 601 Stuart Becktell M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen F.Massa R.Barrichello J.Button J.Trulli
44 665 Matt Phelps M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Heidfeld J.Trulli P.Rosa
839. 43 670 Johann Joo M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Webber R.Schumacher P.Rosa
921. 42 677 Steve Morris M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button N.Heidfeld M.Webber
1163. 39 651 Tommy Mcwilliams M.Schumacher F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen P.Rosa F.Alonso J.Button J.Trulli
1252. 38 636 Peter Lapin F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen N.Heidfeld R.Kubica
1353. 36 494 Ken Addison K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa R.Kubica J.Button G.Fisichella M.Webber
36 660 Rupert Berrington M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Alonso F.Massa J.Button R.Barrichello R.Kubica J.Trulli
36 548 Sean Ford M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen P.Rosa G.Fisichella J.Button N.Heidfeld R.Schumacher
1411. 35 631 William Truett M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella R.Kubica J.Trulli N.Heidfeld
1577. 30 629 Alex Hofstetter M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Massa R.Barrichello J.Button R.Kubica F.Alonso N.Heidfeld
30 528 Brian Sullivan M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso M.Webber R.Kubica N.Heidfeld K.Raikkonen J.Button[/code]
Congratulations to Matt, Mika, and Gary! See Ken for a dozen Krispy Kremes when you are in his area. I didn't choke this year, but Mika and Gary simply trounced me yesterday!
Steve
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code]
for group impreza.net
for the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
Rank Score F.Massa F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella R.Barrichello P.Rosa
57. 58 672 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button P.Rosa R.Barrichello
107. 55 744 Matt Doyle F.Massa M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button R.Kubica P.Rosa
55 682 Gary Lancaster M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Button F.Alonso K.Raikkonen R.Barrichello G.Fisichella R.Schumacher
192. 52 671 Scott Ripley F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa K.Raikkonen P.Rosa J.Button R.Barrichello
272. 51 642 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Button R.Barrichello N.Heidfeld
554. 47 684 Mika Hyytiainen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella J.Button R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen N.Heidfeld
685. 45 672 Ony Anglade M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella R.Kubica M.Webber
785. 44 601 Stuart Becktell M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen F.Massa R.Barrichello J.Button J.Trulli
44 665 Matt Phelps M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Heidfeld J.Trulli P.Rosa
839. 43 670 Johann Joo M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Webber R.Schumacher P.Rosa
921. 42 677 Steve Morris M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button N.Heidfeld M.Webber
1163. 39 651 Tommy Mcwilliams M.Schumacher F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen P.Rosa F.Alonso J.Button J.Trulli
1252. 38 636 Peter Lapin F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen N.Heidfeld R.Kubica
1353. 36 494 Ken Addison K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa R.Kubica J.Button G.Fisichella M.Webber
36 660 Rupert Berrington M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Alonso F.Massa J.Button R.Barrichello R.Kubica J.Trulli
36 548 Sean Ford M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen P.Rosa G.Fisichella J.Button N.Heidfeld R.Schumacher
1411. 35 631 William Truett M.Schumacher F.Massa K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella R.Kubica J.Trulli N.Heidfeld
1577. 30 629 Alex Hofstetter M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Massa R.Barrichello J.Button R.Kubica F.Alonso N.Heidfeld
30 528 Brian Sullivan M.Schumacher F.Massa F.Alonso M.Webber R.Kubica N.Heidfeld K.Raikkonen J.Button[/code]
Congratulations to Matt, Mika, and Gary! See Ken for a dozen Krispy Kremes when you are in his area. I didn't choke this year, but Mika and Gary simply trounced me yesterday!
Steve
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code]
| artkevin | 10-23-2006 07:50 PM |
Speeds number's are only over this year. Vits are last year's and this years combined. He scored 1 point in Imola last year when Button got disqualified for the fuel as ballast thing.
[B]Scott Speed[/B]
Born 24 Jan 1983
Age 23
Height 177 cm
Weight 69 kg
Active years 2005 - 2006
Best 20 (2006)
Presences 20
GP started 18
Best race classification [B]9[/B] (1)
Best grid position [B]11[/B] (1)
Laps raced 951
km raced 4599
[B]Vit Liuzzi[/B]
Born 6 Aug 1980
Age 26
Height 178 cm
Weight 68 kg
Active years 2005 - 2006
Best 19 (2006)
Presences 35
GP started 22
Best race classification [B]8[/B] (2)
Best grid position [B]11[/B] (1)
Points 2
Laps raced 1138
km raced 5387
[B]Scott Speed[/B]
Born 24 Jan 1983
Age 23
Height 177 cm
Weight 69 kg
Active years 2005 - 2006
Best 20 (2006)
Presences 20
GP started 18
Best race classification [B]9[/B] (1)
Best grid position [B]11[/B] (1)
Laps raced 951
km raced 4599
[B]Vit Liuzzi[/B]
Born 6 Aug 1980
Age 26
Height 178 cm
Weight 68 kg
Active years 2005 - 2006
Best 19 (2006)
Presences 35
GP started 22
Best race classification [B]8[/B] (2)
Best grid position [B]11[/B] (1)
Points 2
Laps raced 1138
km raced 5387
| MattNJ2.8 | 10-23-2006 08:50 PM |
What do I win??
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code]
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code]
| Ferg | 10-23-2006 09:23 PM |
[QUOTE=MattDell;15718212]Also, like David Hobbs (I think) said, Speed has matured very well this year. He went from "I don't care about anyone but myself. If you don't like me, tough" to "omg omg I'm racing in F1 omg omg I qualified 14th but I did awesome omg omg." That guy is always freaking happy.
-Matt[/QUOTE]
Absolutely!
The Scott Speed interview with Windsor has been one of my favorite prerace rituals this season. The guy cracks me up with his attitude.
It's a shame he hasn't gotten more exposure in the American media. Did Letterman even have him on during the Indy week? I don't remember.
-Matt[/QUOTE]
Absolutely!
The Scott Speed interview with Windsor has been one of my favorite prerace rituals this season. The guy cracks me up with his attitude.
It's a shame he hasn't gotten more exposure in the American media. Did Letterman even have him on during the Indy week? I don't remember.
| StuBeck | 10-23-2006 10:10 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;15718153]I think the reason Audi stays out of F1 is because they couldn't use the Diesel engines. I wish F1 could have a variety of engines. That would be fun.[/QUOTE]
Diesel is only this year though, that doesn't account for them not coming in with the engine they ran in teh R8.
Diesel is only this year though, that doesn't account for them not coming in with the engine they ran in teh R8.
| MattNJ2.8 | 10-23-2006 11:28 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;15720944]
The Scott Speed interview with Windsor has been one of my favorite prerace rituals this season. The guy cracks me up with his attitude.[/QUOTE]
Scott cracks me up. He's a goofy guy I would hang out with...and my wife gets a kick out of him.
His interviewing skills > Kimi x elevendybillion.
I wonder even with his draconion attitude if Kimi picks up tons of chicks back home.
The Scott Speed interview with Windsor has been one of my favorite prerace rituals this season. The guy cracks me up with his attitude.[/QUOTE]
Scott cracks me up. He's a goofy guy I would hang out with...and my wife gets a kick out of him.
His interviewing skills > Kimi x elevendybillion.
I wonder even with his draconion attitude if Kimi picks up tons of chicks back home.
| Jonathan | 10-23-2006 11:43 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;15716582]I think Red bull will be much better next year since they started working on the car so early and hopefully won't have the same problems with the engine like they did all year.
McLaren is in trouble for next year, at the end of the year they will have lost ALL of their drivers from the beginning of the season, and if Pafett finds a drive and de la Rosa is dropped, their entire driving lineup for the past 2 years will have gone. Look at the major hit Williams has taken (yes, they lost a lot of money, but they were running for the constructors championship in 03.) I could see Hyundai buying them out in a few years.[/QUOTE]While I agree that Redbull will likely become a much stronger team next year, I do not agree with you on McLaren.
McLaren will be a much stronger team next year, IMHO.
I expect great things from Fernando.
I am far more concerned about Kimi and Massa.
Ferrari is going to tank.
All the indications are there:
Luca's hands are full with FIAT, which is still in very deep trouble. FIAT can not afford to subsidise Ferrari racing exploits to the extent that they have previously. Ross is leaving. Rory, while he may hang around some, will not be especially eager to contribute to the "new" team. He really wants to retire at this point. I expect to see more kaos from Ferrari, unfortunately.
I do not know what to expect from Renault.
McLaren is in trouble for next year, at the end of the year they will have lost ALL of their drivers from the beginning of the season, and if Pafett finds a drive and de la Rosa is dropped, their entire driving lineup for the past 2 years will have gone. Look at the major hit Williams has taken (yes, they lost a lot of money, but they were running for the constructors championship in 03.) I could see Hyundai buying them out in a few years.[/QUOTE]While I agree that Redbull will likely become a much stronger team next year, I do not agree with you on McLaren.
McLaren will be a much stronger team next year, IMHO.
I expect great things from Fernando.
I am far more concerned about Kimi and Massa.
Ferrari is going to tank.
All the indications are there:
Luca's hands are full with FIAT, which is still in very deep trouble. FIAT can not afford to subsidise Ferrari racing exploits to the extent that they have previously. Ross is leaving. Rory, while he may hang around some, will not be especially eager to contribute to the "new" team. He really wants to retire at this point. I expect to see more kaos from Ferrari, unfortunately.
I do not know what to expect from Renault.
| grandpa rex | 10-24-2006 07:23 AM |
[QUOTE=MattNJ2.8;15720538]What do I win??
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code][/QUOTE]
First of all, Matt, all podium finishers win Krispy Kremes courtesy of On The Gas from Orange County CA. Watch out, though, he's stiffed me the past 2 years.
Next, you have my congratulations at your picking skills. I'm close friends with our third place finisher this year and we compete pretty seriously for trash talking rights between us. He had a good year and smoked me, but you smoked the entire world. Great job.
Now, for next year, what's your secret?
[code] F1P6 Standings
for group impreza.net
after the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace (Interlagos)
13. 744 Matt Doyle
431. 684 Mika Hyytiainen
459. 682 Gary Lancaster
537. 677 Steve Morris
600. 672 Ony Anglade
672 Ken March
618. 671 Scott Ripley
633. 670 Johann Joo
713. 665 Matt Phelps
788. 660 Rupert Berrington
877. 651 Tommy Mcwilliams
970. 642 Jim Rider
1039. 636 Peter Lapin
1091. 631 William Truett
1114. 629 Alex Hofstetter
1340. 601 Stuart Becktell
1360. 598 David Pio
1505. 561 Michael Fiyak
1547. 548 Sean Ford
1583. 528 Brian Sullivan
1632. 511 Andrew Sekellick
1651. 502 Andrew Parente
1653. 501 Jody Bertoli
1664. 494 Ken Addison
1729. 456 Lord Bass
1741. 449 David Ferguson
1744. 446 Matt Dell
1821. 378 Andy Zi
1822. 376 Chris Hartman
1871. 334 Jeff Preston
1921. 292 Paul Chavez
2116. 119 Brad Erdman
2131. 113 James Alberts
2135. 111 Scott Ripley
2166. 96 Christopher Mcguire
2186. 87 Brian Mcdaniel[/code][/QUOTE]
First of all, Matt, all podium finishers win Krispy Kremes courtesy of On The Gas from Orange County CA. Watch out, though, he's stiffed me the past 2 years.
Next, you have my congratulations at your picking skills. I'm close friends with our third place finisher this year and we compete pretty seriously for trash talking rights between us. He had a good year and smoked me, but you smoked the entire world. Great job.
Now, for next year, what's your secret?
| REX8 | 10-24-2006 09:25 AM |
Speaking of interviewing skills...
You guys gotta hear this....
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4oQ74qoFCQ[/url]
You guys gotta hear this....
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4oQ74qoFCQ[/url]
| StuBeck | 10-24-2006 09:29 AM |
[QUOTE=Jonathan;15722669]While I agree that Redbull will likely become a much stronger team next year, I do not agree with you on McLaren.
McLaren will be a much stronger team next year, IMHO.
I expect great things from Fernando.
I am far more concerned about Kimi and Massa.
Ferrari is going to tank.
All the indications are there:
Luca's hands are full with FIAT, which is still in very deep trouble. FIAT can not afford to subsidise Ferrari racing exploits to the extent that they have previously. Ross is leaving. Rory, while he may hang around some, will not be especially eager to contribute to the "new" team. He really wants to retire at this point. I expect to see more kaos from Ferrari, unfortunately.
I do not know what to expect from Renault.[/QUOTE]
Ferrari doesn't get money from FIAT for their racing, they are going to have more money from phillip morris and the rest has been covered by Ferrari.
Alonso will be awesome next year at McLaren, but I don't know how the development will be especially if they go to a completely different driver lineup. Some continuity between the drivers is needed and I believe this w2ill help Renault since they are keeping Fisi, so when they drop him in 08 for Piquet they will still have a good idea of what is going on.
McLaren will be a much stronger team next year, IMHO.
I expect great things from Fernando.
I am far more concerned about Kimi and Massa.
Ferrari is going to tank.
All the indications are there:
Luca's hands are full with FIAT, which is still in very deep trouble. FIAT can not afford to subsidise Ferrari racing exploits to the extent that they have previously. Ross is leaving. Rory, while he may hang around some, will not be especially eager to contribute to the "new" team. He really wants to retire at this point. I expect to see more kaos from Ferrari, unfortunately.
I do not know what to expect from Renault.[/QUOTE]
Ferrari doesn't get money from FIAT for their racing, they are going to have more money from phillip morris and the rest has been covered by Ferrari.
Alonso will be awesome next year at McLaren, but I don't know how the development will be especially if they go to a completely different driver lineup. Some continuity between the drivers is needed and I believe this w2ill help Renault since they are keeping Fisi, so when they drop him in 08 for Piquet they will still have a good idea of what is going on.
| OnTheGas | 10-24-2006 09:58 AM |
[QUOTE=tdm74;15712045]what was Kimi doing while Pele was presenting Michael with a trophy[/url]
:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]:lol: :lol: That was hilarious! If you haven't yet seen this vid, youtube yanked the previous posting, but someone has reposted it here... [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So[/URL]
:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]:lol: :lol: That was hilarious! If you haven't yet seen this vid, youtube yanked the previous posting, but someone has reposted it here... [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So[/URL]
| REX8 | 10-24-2006 10:07 AM |
[QUOTE=OnTheGas;15726156]:lol: :lol: That was hilarious! If you haven't yet seen this vid, youtube yanked the previous posting, but someone has reposted it here... [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku57JZqZ9So[/URL][/QUOTE]
Look two posts up! :lol:
Look two posts up! :lol:
| rupertberr | 10-24-2006 11:06 AM |
[QUOTE=REX8;15726233]Look two posts up! :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: That's got to save at least a tenth of a second! :lol:
[QUOTE]13. 744 Matt Doyle [/QUOTE]
Congrats Matt! 13th place on the planet is pretty good too!:eek:
About mid season I was in second place. It's been down hill from there.:(
[QUOTE]Some continuity between the drivers is needed and I believe this w2ill help Renault since they are keeping Fisi, so when they drop him in 08 for Piquet they will still have a good idea of what is going on.[/QUOTE]
I like Fisi but Alonso has just toasted him the past two years. I don't know if I can wait another year for Nelson Jr. to take over.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/rupertberr/image/69098925.jpg[/IMG]
Congratulations to Alonso for winning his second straight World Championship, the youngest driver to ever do that, breaking Michael's record. Hopefully there will be a few more records he can break.;)
I think Michael's last race was more memorable because of his problems and his great drive through the field then it would have been if he took pole and walked away from everyone. I actually found myself rooting for him which is a rare occurance. I respect his immense talent but it will always be tainted by his malicious ramming moves on Hill and Villeneuve to decide two World Championships. You may have forgotten but after the Villeneuve incident Schumacher was disqualified from the entire 1997 season. The record books show Frentzen as fininshing 2nd in the World Championship that season. His Monaco stunt I consider minor but typical of his character.
So anyway, I am looking forward to the 2007 season! Why hasn't anyone started that thread yet???
My prediction: Kimi, with the lighter load :lol: , will be the next World Champion, in a Ferrari.:)
:lol: That's got to save at least a tenth of a second! :lol:
[QUOTE]13. 744 Matt Doyle [/QUOTE]
Congrats Matt! 13th place on the planet is pretty good too!:eek:
About mid season I was in second place. It's been down hill from there.:(
[QUOTE]Some continuity between the drivers is needed and I believe this w2ill help Renault since they are keeping Fisi, so when they drop him in 08 for Piquet they will still have a good idea of what is going on.[/QUOTE]
I like Fisi but Alonso has just toasted him the past two years. I don't know if I can wait another year for Nelson Jr. to take over.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/rupertberr/image/69098925.jpg[/IMG]
Congratulations to Alonso for winning his second straight World Championship, the youngest driver to ever do that, breaking Michael's record. Hopefully there will be a few more records he can break.;)
I think Michael's last race was more memorable because of his problems and his great drive through the field then it would have been if he took pole and walked away from everyone. I actually found myself rooting for him which is a rare occurance. I respect his immense talent but it will always be tainted by his malicious ramming moves on Hill and Villeneuve to decide two World Championships. You may have forgotten but after the Villeneuve incident Schumacher was disqualified from the entire 1997 season. The record books show Frentzen as fininshing 2nd in the World Championship that season. His Monaco stunt I consider minor but typical of his character.
So anyway, I am looking forward to the 2007 season! Why hasn't anyone started that thread yet???
My prediction: Kimi, with the lighter load :lol: , will be the next World Champion, in a Ferrari.:)
| Leonardo | 10-24-2006 11:28 AM |
Can anyone YouTube the part of the shout out?
Will be an instant hit!
Will be an instant hit!
| TimStevens | 10-24-2006 11:47 AM |
Should be able to YouTube it as soon as I get it pulled from my DVR in the next few days.
| rupertberr | 10-24-2006 12:36 PM |
From Autosport, Briatore relieved after 'stressful' season
[QUOTE]Renault team chief Flavio Briatore says the 2006 championship challenge was the toughest of his career - especially because the French team were facing Ferrari and Michael Schumacher.
Renault won their second consecutive constructors' championship, as well as a second consecutive drivers title for Fernando Alonso, in one of the closest fought battles of recent years.
The French outfit ended with 206 points, compared to Ferrari's 201.
And Briatore admitted this season was particularly tough on him - singling out factors such as the controversial decisions made against Renault by the governing body as well as his personal battle with health issues this summer.
"With everything that's happened, the last 15 days have been hard," Briatore said in an interview with Italy's Gazzetta dello Sport. "I would wake up at two or three in the morning and be unable to get more sleep.
"Now I feel great relief when thinking about the four titles won in two years: it's a nice chapter in the history of Renault, and mine too. Because I, in 12 years of Formula One, have won seven championships.
"The most stressful has been this one, with a very strong Ferrari and Schumacher on a roll, because he knew he was giving it all for the last time."
"There have been things that I haven't understood," Briatore added, when asked about the FIA's decision to ban Renault's mass damper system as well as controversially penalise Alonso at Monza last month. "I hope, with time, to be able to understand these decisions better."
Italian Briatore also admitted that he takes great pride in beating Ferrari, although he conceded that it doesn't make him very popular in his home country.
"I do my job the best way I can; some understand this, others don't," he told the newspaper. "People often judge me in a superficial way. For me it's a honour to beat Ferrari because they're a great team.
"But Formula One is international. A Frenchman (Jean Todt) heads Ferrari, so it's OK for an Italian to manage Renault.
"At one point it looked like Ferrari had already won the championship. It was hard realizing you have the media and the system against you.
"In Italy I'm loved but also hated. I'm proud to be Italian, but I would like Italy to love me more."
When asked about his cancer scare earlier this summer, after he underwent surgery to remove a tumor from his kidney, Briatore said he always placed Renault's needs ahead of his own.
"I've always thought more about Renault than about myself," the Italian stated. "After the operation, the doctors told me to avoid stress: if I was smart, I would have quit immediately.
"Instead, even in the clinic I was in contact with the engineers. I tried to play down [the illness] to avoid crying or be pitied - so much so that some thought it was just made up."
Briatore said he drew strength from Renault's head of aerodynamics Dino Toso, who himself has fought with cancer in recent years.
"He is an exceptional man: we gave strength to each other," Briatore said. "Maybe the illness has been an extra push to win in this very difficult environment.
"When things go bad, teams crumble. In contrast, we stayed together and counter-attacked."
Looking ahead, though, Briatore was defiant that Renault will remain strong, and the Italian admitted he relishes the constants challenge of Formula One.
"I live for challenges, but always with mid-grid teams," Briatore said. "I enjoy it more. It's better to win against the big teams, because they get really annoyed by that."
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[QUOTE]Renault team chief Flavio Briatore says the 2006 championship challenge was the toughest of his career - especially because the French team were facing Ferrari and Michael Schumacher.
Renault won their second consecutive constructors' championship, as well as a second consecutive drivers title for Fernando Alonso, in one of the closest fought battles of recent years.
The French outfit ended with 206 points, compared to Ferrari's 201.
And Briatore admitted this season was particularly tough on him - singling out factors such as the controversial decisions made against Renault by the governing body as well as his personal battle with health issues this summer.
"With everything that's happened, the last 15 days have been hard," Briatore said in an interview with Italy's Gazzetta dello Sport. "I would wake up at two or three in the morning and be unable to get more sleep.
"Now I feel great relief when thinking about the four titles won in two years: it's a nice chapter in the history of Renault, and mine too. Because I, in 12 years of Formula One, have won seven championships.
"The most stressful has been this one, with a very strong Ferrari and Schumacher on a roll, because he knew he was giving it all for the last time."
"There have been things that I haven't understood," Briatore added, when asked about the FIA's decision to ban Renault's mass damper system as well as controversially penalise Alonso at Monza last month. "I hope, with time, to be able to understand these decisions better."
Italian Briatore also admitted that he takes great pride in beating Ferrari, although he conceded that it doesn't make him very popular in his home country.
"I do my job the best way I can; some understand this, others don't," he told the newspaper. "People often judge me in a superficial way. For me it's a honour to beat Ferrari because they're a great team.
"But Formula One is international. A Frenchman (Jean Todt) heads Ferrari, so it's OK for an Italian to manage Renault.
"At one point it looked like Ferrari had already won the championship. It was hard realizing you have the media and the system against you.
"In Italy I'm loved but also hated. I'm proud to be Italian, but I would like Italy to love me more."
When asked about his cancer scare earlier this summer, after he underwent surgery to remove a tumor from his kidney, Briatore said he always placed Renault's needs ahead of his own.
"I've always thought more about Renault than about myself," the Italian stated. "After the operation, the doctors told me to avoid stress: if I was smart, I would have quit immediately.
"Instead, even in the clinic I was in contact with the engineers. I tried to play down [the illness] to avoid crying or be pitied - so much so that some thought it was just made up."
Briatore said he drew strength from Renault's head of aerodynamics Dino Toso, who himself has fought with cancer in recent years.
"He is an exceptional man: we gave strength to each other," Briatore said. "Maybe the illness has been an extra push to win in this very difficult environment.
"When things go bad, teams crumble. In contrast, we stayed together and counter-attacked."
Looking ahead, though, Briatore was defiant that Renault will remain strong, and the Italian admitted he relishes the constants challenge of Formula One.
"I live for challenges, but always with mid-grid teams," Briatore said. "I enjoy it more. It's better to win against the big teams, because they get really annoyed by that."
[/QUOTE]
| ptclaus98 | 10-24-2006 02:05 PM |
Doesn't look like Kimi will race for too long.
[url]http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1160989222/formula_one/F1gossip/Kimi-to-quit-after-Ferrari/view.html[/url]
:(
[url]http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1160989222/formula_one/F1gossip/Kimi-to-quit-after-Ferrari/view.html[/url]
:(
| StuBeck | 10-24-2006 03:11 PM |
I believe he has a long term contract with them, and if he doesn't get a contract and Ferrari starts to suck, I think his opinion could be changed.
| Ferg | 10-24-2006 03:22 PM |
He's got a three year deal with the Scuderia.
If the doomsayers are correct and Ferrari falls it's going to be a very long three years...
If the doomsayers are correct and Ferrari falls it's going to be a very long three years...
| StuBeck | 10-24-2006 05:13 PM |
Thats what I thought, but I don't think he's only going to drive for the next three years.
| MattNJ2.8 | 10-24-2006 05:56 PM |
[QUOTE=grandpa rex;15725144]First of all, Matt, all podium finishers win Krispy Kremes courtesy of On The Gas from Orange County CA. Watch out, though, he's stiffed me the past 2 years.
Next, you have my congratulations at your picking skills. I'm close friends with our third place finisher this year and we compete pretty seriously for trash talking rights between us. He had a good year and smoked me, but you smoked the entire world. Great job.
Now, for next year, what's your secret?[/QUOTE]
Well, before I make my pics, I do a LOT of drugs, like a whole bucketful, and I put the Beatles White album on backwards on my record player...
Naw, I dunno, I just read the news before each race, and when in doubt, in the last half of the season I always bet on Red. And bet against Rosberg and Williams.
And I ask my cats... The Banana, and The Goose... they told me that Fisichella would never be much more than a bit player this year, that Macca would blow up a lot.
Thanks for the congrats. I'm hungry for some donuts :)
Next, you have my congratulations at your picking skills. I'm close friends with our third place finisher this year and we compete pretty seriously for trash talking rights between us. He had a good year and smoked me, but you smoked the entire world. Great job.
Now, for next year, what's your secret?[/QUOTE]
Well, before I make my pics, I do a LOT of drugs, like a whole bucketful, and I put the Beatles White album on backwards on my record player...
Naw, I dunno, I just read the news before each race, and when in doubt, in the last half of the season I always bet on Red. And bet against Rosberg and Williams.
And I ask my cats... The Banana, and The Goose... they told me that Fisichella would never be much more than a bit player this year, that Macca would blow up a lot.
Thanks for the congrats. I'm hungry for some donuts :)
| ptclaus98 | 10-24-2006 09:06 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;15732624]Thats what I thought, but I don't think he's only going to drive for the next three years.[/QUOTE]
Word is that his only goal is winning that WDC. I'm starting to believe that because of the people telling him that he is great, he doesn't have the drive because he doesn't have to prove himself. It's possible that with a bad season, Kimi will a)fall by the wayside like Villenueve, or b)wake up and see that he's in the pinnacle of motorsport. And start working like it.
It's possible that his "Iceman" attitude is an part of his apathy, instead of his cool demeanor.
[COLOR="White"][SIZE="1"]I hope this is entirely wrong. Cause Kimi is still the man.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
Word is that his only goal is winning that WDC. I'm starting to believe that because of the people telling him that he is great, he doesn't have the drive because he doesn't have to prove himself. It's possible that with a bad season, Kimi will a)fall by the wayside like Villenueve, or b)wake up and see that he's in the pinnacle of motorsport. And start working like it.
It's possible that his "Iceman" attitude is an part of his apathy, instead of his cool demeanor.
[COLOR="White"][SIZE="1"]I hope this is entirely wrong. Cause Kimi is still the man.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
| grandpa rex | 10-25-2006 06:50 AM |
Been thinking about this for a few days.
I've been a fan of Schumacher since I first saw him in Montreal in 93. He's always been a brilliant driver. Even with a crappy car - think 96 Ferrari.
Yes, he's arrogant. And his moves on Hill and Jackie Newtown were shameful.
But, here he was, tied with Alonso with 2 races to go. He's got Japan won, and then his engine lets go for the first time since 2000!
In Brazil, he was so fast it was scary. But a fuel pump put him 10th, and I think he may have won from there without the puncture. But he didn't
He should have won the title going away.
My theory: good old karma catching up with him for his egregious behavior at Monaco. Just wouldn't have been right after effing Alonso that way.
I am saddened by his retirement, but feel privileged to have been able to experience his entire career, and to have personally seen him race 12 times.
I've been a fan of Schumacher since I first saw him in Montreal in 93. He's always been a brilliant driver. Even with a crappy car - think 96 Ferrari.
Yes, he's arrogant. And his moves on Hill and Jackie Newtown were shameful.
But, here he was, tied with Alonso with 2 races to go. He's got Japan won, and then his engine lets go for the first time since 2000!
In Brazil, he was so fast it was scary. But a fuel pump put him 10th, and I think he may have won from there without the puncture. But he didn't
He should have won the title going away.
My theory: good old karma catching up with him for his egregious behavior at Monaco. Just wouldn't have been right after effing Alonso that way.
I am saddened by his retirement, but feel privileged to have been able to experience his entire career, and to have personally seen him race 12 times.
| Ferg | 10-25-2006 09:25 AM |
[QUOTE=grandpa rex;15739684]He should have won the title going away. [/QUOTE]
There's a flip side to that of course...
Take away Alonso's wheel mishap from Hungary (10 points), the "penalty" in Italy, the engine failure at the same (6 points), and the bad call on tires in China (another 10 points) it would have been Fernando who won going away.
You're right though, it seems that the minute Schuey announced he was done with F1, his luck decided it was done with him. Weird.
There's a flip side to that of course...
Take away Alonso's wheel mishap from Hungary (10 points), the "penalty" in Italy, the engine failure at the same (6 points), and the bad call on tires in China (another 10 points) it would have been Fernando who won going away.
You're right though, it seems that the minute Schuey announced he was done with F1, his luck decided it was done with him. Weird.
| grandpa rex | 10-25-2006 11:20 AM |
Ferg, the fact is that they were tied after China no matter who broke when earlier in the season.
From there, Schumacher dominated on the track. He should have won both races easily.
From there, Schumacher dominated on the track. He should have won both races easily.
| StuBeck | 10-25-2006 01:03 PM |
No, if Alonso hadn't blown his engine in Italy he would have been 12 points up.
| Ferg | 10-25-2006 01:27 PM |
[QUOTE=grandpa rex;15741888]Ferg, the fact is that they were tied after China no matter who broke when earlier in the season.
From there, Schumacher dominated on the track. He should have won both races easily.[/QUOTE]
Right, but you're saying that if not for a run of bad luck Schuey would have won the title.
My point is that if not for a run of bad luck on Alonso's side the championship never would have been anywhere near as close as it was.
In the end it balanced out, thankfully.
..and the Ferrari Shuffle continues...
[QUOTE]Todt confirmed as new Ferrari CEO
Wednesday, October 25th 2006, 15:47 GMT
Frenchman Jean Todt has been confirmed as Ferrari's new Chief Executive Officer.
Ferrari's board of directors met in Turin on Wednesday to discuss the future structure of the company.
The Italian company also said that Amedeo Felisa has joined the board in place of Renato Pagliaro, who has resigned. Felisa will replace Todt as General Manager.
Ferrari's Formula One team are expected to announce further changes to their structure, including technical director Ross Brawn's decision to take a sabbatical.[/QUOTE]
From there, Schumacher dominated on the track. He should have won both races easily.[/QUOTE]
Right, but you're saying that if not for a run of bad luck Schuey would have won the title.
My point is that if not for a run of bad luck on Alonso's side the championship never would have been anywhere near as close as it was.
In the end it balanced out, thankfully.
..and the Ferrari Shuffle continues...
[QUOTE]Todt confirmed as new Ferrari CEO
Wednesday, October 25th 2006, 15:47 GMT
Frenchman Jean Todt has been confirmed as Ferrari's new Chief Executive Officer.
Ferrari's board of directors met in Turin on Wednesday to discuss the future structure of the company.
The Italian company also said that Amedeo Felisa has joined the board in place of Renato Pagliaro, who has resigned. Felisa will replace Todt as General Manager.
Ferrari's Formula One team are expected to announce further changes to their structure, including technical director Ross Brawn's decision to take a sabbatical.[/QUOTE]
| Ferg | 10-25-2006 02:22 PM |
I have a feeling Bernie had a say in who got to cpatain the girl's team...
"You keep that Irvine far away from my daughter...."
[QUOTE]Coulthard and Irvine for TV show
Wednesday, October 25th 2006, 14:26 GMT
David Coulthard and Eddie Irvine will lead two teams of celebrities in a motorsport battle of the sexes to be broadcast on Sky One in the UK.
'The Race' will involve the celebrities going head to head every day for a week at Silverstone, and even living in a purpose built compound at the circuit.
The program will run from November 6, with the grand final - a Formula Ford race - on Sunday November 12.
Coulthard and Irvine will captain a girls team and a boys team respectively.
Both will have to choose a driver from their respective teams to be eliminated on the Friday night show.
Before any of the celebrities can take part, they will first need to earn their race licence like anyone else by passing an Association of Racing Drivers Schools (ARDS) test.
'The Race' will be shown live at 10pm every night on Sky One during the week of competition.
Girls Team
Captain: David Coulthard
Ms Dynamite (Urban music singer)
Tamara Ecclestone (Presenter and daughter of Bernie)
Jenny Frost (Pop star � ex-Atomic Kitten)
Melissa Joan Hart (Actress)
Ingrid Tarrant (TV personality and travel writer)
Boys Team
Captain: Eddie Irvine
Nigel Benn (Former boxing world champion)
Les Ferdinand (Former England footballer)
Brian Johnson (AC/DC lead singer)
Nick Moran (Actor)
Gary Numan (Electro-pop artist)[/QUOTE]
"You keep that Irvine far away from my daughter...."
[QUOTE]Coulthard and Irvine for TV show
Wednesday, October 25th 2006, 14:26 GMT
David Coulthard and Eddie Irvine will lead two teams of celebrities in a motorsport battle of the sexes to be broadcast on Sky One in the UK.
'The Race' will involve the celebrities going head to head every day for a week at Silverstone, and even living in a purpose built compound at the circuit.
The program will run from November 6, with the grand final - a Formula Ford race - on Sunday November 12.
Coulthard and Irvine will captain a girls team and a boys team respectively.
Both will have to choose a driver from their respective teams to be eliminated on the Friday night show.
Before any of the celebrities can take part, they will first need to earn their race licence like anyone else by passing an Association of Racing Drivers Schools (ARDS) test.
'The Race' will be shown live at 10pm every night on Sky One during the week of competition.
Girls Team
Captain: David Coulthard
Ms Dynamite (Urban music singer)
Tamara Ecclestone (Presenter and daughter of Bernie)
Jenny Frost (Pop star � ex-Atomic Kitten)
Melissa Joan Hart (Actress)
Ingrid Tarrant (TV personality and travel writer)
Boys Team
Captain: Eddie Irvine
Nigel Benn (Former boxing world champion)
Les Ferdinand (Former England footballer)
Brian Johnson (AC/DC lead singer)
Nick Moran (Actor)
Gary Numan (Electro-pop artist)[/QUOTE]
| ptclaus98 | 10-25-2006 07:33 PM |
Ms. Dynamite?
Cool.
Cool.
| sirfrankwilliams | 10-25-2006 08:34 PM |
[quote=grandpa rex;15739684]Yes, he's arrogant. And his moves on Hill and Jackie Newtown were shameful.[/quote]
Whats this "Jackie Newtown" move you speak of :confused:[SIZE=1]
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Whats this "Jackie Newtown" move you speak of :confused:[SIZE=1]
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| JM530 | 10-25-2006 11:29 PM |
not sure if this was posted, but that it was good -
"I think today we have to show great respect for Michael Schumacher, because what he's done today will go down in the history of F1," Briatore told RAI television. "He was flying. I don't know what he had but he was literally flying."
"I think today we have to show great respect for Michael Schumacher, because what he's done today will go down in the history of F1," Briatore told RAI television. "He was flying. I don't know what he had but he was literally flying."
| grandpa rex | 10-26-2006 06:42 AM |
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;15750062]Whats this "Jackie Newtown" move you speak of :confused:[SIZE=1]
[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
C'mon Sir Frank, He used to drive for you: Jacques Villeneuve
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C'mon Sir Frank, He used to drive for you: Jacques Villeneuve
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