| McGuyver | 03-13-2006 03:43 PM |
[QUOTE=sstrano]McGuyver... I don't believe it will fit a non-turbo car. The only cars I know it will fit for sure are the WRX and STi's.[/QUOTE]
:(
With only 22mm available for my RS, I feel somewhat inadequate.
Sam - thanks for taking the time to check into this.
Chris
:(
With only 22mm available for my RS, I feel somewhat inadequate.
Sam - thanks for taking the time to check into this.
Chris
| ratt_finkel | 03-13-2006 03:49 PM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]Bah! Swaybar no go!
But hey, if you swap a turbo cross member, and swap your header out for a turbo, it will fit like a champ.
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Not a problem, I'll just go with the 25mm addco bar.
But hey, if you swap a turbo cross member, and swap your header out for a turbo, it will fit like a champ.
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Not a problem, I'll just go with the 25mm addco bar.
| fullup1 | 03-13-2006 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]anyway, shock valving isn't the RS's biggest handicap; that's the fact its not an '05 MCS :)[/QUOTE]
These are the parts you'll need to be nationally competitive in GS with an RS:
1. Remove shocks and replace with MCS shocks
2. Remove front swaybar and replace with MCS swaybar
2. Remove wheels and replace with MCS wheels
3. Remove engine and replace with MCS engine
4. Remove body and replace with MCS body
5. Remove remaining parts and replace with remaining MCS parts
Oh, I checked the Stock rules, this is legal:
[QUOTE=Stock Rules]Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year. Such conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements of this Section.[/QUOTE]
Specific vehicles of a particular make and model:
Particular make and model to switch out of - Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Particular make and model to switch into - Mini Cooper S
The cost of the conversion is a little steep, about $21,950.
These are the parts you'll need to be nationally competitive in GS with an RS:
1. Remove shocks and replace with MCS shocks
2. Remove front swaybar and replace with MCS swaybar
2. Remove wheels and replace with MCS wheels
3. Remove engine and replace with MCS engine
4. Remove body and replace with MCS body
5. Remove remaining parts and replace with remaining MCS parts
Oh, I checked the Stock rules, this is legal:
[QUOTE=Stock Rules]Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year. Such conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements of this Section.[/QUOTE]
Specific vehicles of a particular make and model:
Particular make and model to switch out of - Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Particular make and model to switch into - Mini Cooper S
The cost of the conversion is a little steep, about $21,950.
| ratt_finkel | 03-13-2006 04:08 PM |
[QUOTE=fullup1]These are the parts you'll need to be nationally competitive in GS with an RS:
1. Remove shocks and replace with MCS shocks
2. Remove front swaybar and replace with MCS swaybar
2. Remove wheels and replace with MCS wheels
3. Remove engine and replace with MCS engine
4. Remove body and replace with MCS body
5. Remove remaining parts and replace with remaining MCS parts
Oh, I checked the Stock rules, this is legal:
Specific vehicles of a particular make and model:
Particular make and model to switch out of - Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Particular make and model to switch into - Mini Cooper S
The cost of the conversion is a little steep, about $21,950.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha, so true Phil! I noticed you're running DSP? Why the switch?
1. Remove shocks and replace with MCS shocks
2. Remove front swaybar and replace with MCS swaybar
2. Remove wheels and replace with MCS wheels
3. Remove engine and replace with MCS engine
4. Remove body and replace with MCS body
5. Remove remaining parts and replace with remaining MCS parts
Oh, I checked the Stock rules, this is legal:
Specific vehicles of a particular make and model:
Particular make and model to switch out of - Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Particular make and model to switch into - Mini Cooper S
The cost of the conversion is a little steep, about $21,950.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha, so true Phil! I noticed you're running DSP? Why the switch?
| solo-x | 03-13-2006 04:27 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]hahahaha, so true Phil! I noticed you're running DSP? Why the switch?[/QUOTE]
he doesn't own an MCS???
nate - curious when the 2.5RS will get a second life in HS
he doesn't own an MCS???
nate - curious when the 2.5RS will get a second life in HS
| ratt_finkel | 03-13-2006 04:34 PM |
[QUOTE=solo-x]he doesn't own an MCS???
nate - curious when the 2.5RS will get a second life in HS[/QUOTE]
I know that, I saw at a recent blue ridge auto-x he was registered in DSP with his 2.5RS.
nate - curious when the 2.5RS will get a second life in HS[/QUOTE]
I know that, I saw at a recent blue ridge auto-x he was registered in DSP with his 2.5RS.
| solo-x | 03-13-2006 04:49 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]I know that, I saw at a recent blue ridge auto-x he was registered in DSP with his 2.5RS.[/QUOTE]
sorry, forgot the :lol:. just bustin your stones.
nate
sorry, forgot the :lol:. just bustin your stones.
nate
| ratt_finkel | 03-13-2006 05:38 PM |
[QUOTE=solo-x]sorry, forgot the :lol:. just bustin your stones.
nate[/QUOTE]
haha, I was wondering about that :)
nate[/QUOTE]
haha, I was wondering about that :)
| 10th Warrior | 03-13-2006 06:05 PM |
[QUOTE=Craig2000RS]Who's the noobie? It ain't the MCS, its the Celica that was our downfall.[/QUOTE]
eh, with the celica, pre-05 MCS, CRX, etc, they were all faster, but at least you felt like maybe, just maybe you could give them a run for the money, and you certainly could at Pros.
anyway, the RS has trophied too many times to get moved down to HS, especially when the 6th gen Celica and the MX6 don't get the nod.
Not that I care anymore, as my car can never be legal for Stock again, and BSP STi's are way more fun :banana:
eh, with the celica, pre-05 MCS, CRX, etc, they were all faster, but at least you felt like maybe, just maybe you could give them a run for the money, and you certainly could at Pros.
anyway, the RS has trophied too many times to get moved down to HS, especially when the 6th gen Celica and the MX6 don't get the nod.
Not that I care anymore, as my car can never be legal for Stock again, and BSP STi's are way more fun :banana:
| ratt_finkel | 03-14-2006 01:16 PM |
I think everyone missed this question but, where should I get my Koni's revalved? And what type of price point am I looking at for de-gassing and a "as much compression and rebound range that you can get". And also, should I have them converted to DA or just re-valved?
| trhoppe | 03-14-2006 01:21 PM |
Lee Grimes at Koni NA. If you get your valving close you dont need doubles. I would say singles front and then doubles rear in order to choose how much the car can rotate via compression damping in the rear.
-Tom
-Tom
| Draken | 03-14-2006 01:43 PM |
What Hoppe said. Lee actually has the original koni revalves that Brian Priebe did. his fronts ended up with fairly OTS bump, but with healthy low-speed rebound. The dyno charts are somewhere in a box with my leftover RS stuff, but if i remember correctly, full soft rebound on the final revalved set was close to the full stiff valving of the off the shelf shocks. The philosophy was brought over from the stock Neon days, in terms of combating soft springs. And many may argue that his STS shocks don't translate to GS, however, remember that back then, STS wasn't filled with 10k springs. Brian's setup was konis, pinks, and kumho 712. And he won.
In the rear, he ended up playing with bump the most, and actually over did it on one set. most of the work was aimed at allowing the car to drive off a corner more like a rear driver. rear bump and the toe-out helped that. What i saw and what he told me, was that his final valving on the rear konis was almost identical to the rear kybs. BTW, he also had the KYBs dynoed.
While a Celica is not an RS, i think some of Brian's work on the celica rear setups was an exstention of his RS efforts/theories. the Celica setup ended up with DAs in the rear, so that rear bump could be jacked up for autox. In that instance, it proved helpful for combating front wheel spin, and it was very apparent when Brian was able to get on the throttle two car lengths earlier than any other celica in 2002.
Anyways, good luck.
chris h.
In the rear, he ended up playing with bump the most, and actually over did it on one set. most of the work was aimed at allowing the car to drive off a corner more like a rear driver. rear bump and the toe-out helped that. What i saw and what he told me, was that his final valving on the rear konis was almost identical to the rear kybs. BTW, he also had the KYBs dynoed.
While a Celica is not an RS, i think some of Brian's work on the celica rear setups was an exstention of his RS efforts/theories. the Celica setup ended up with DAs in the rear, so that rear bump could be jacked up for autox. In that instance, it proved helpful for combating front wheel spin, and it was very apparent when Brian was able to get on the throttle two car lengths earlier than any other celica in 2002.
Anyways, good luck.
chris h.
| fullup1 | 03-14-2006 02:18 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]hahahaha, so true Phil! I noticed you're running DSP? Why the switch?[/QUOTE]
Well let's just say I was somewhat jaded after the 05 Toledo National Tour "Drag Race" event. After getting destroyed there and driving 9-10 hours back to Blacksburg with an obnoxiously loud exhaust, I decided maybe I should step back and take an overall view of the situation. Driving extremely long distances to get owned isn't my idea of a good time, and I'm not really into pumping money into getting shocks revalved, replacing my front swaybar or bushings or endlinks, just to eek out another tenth or two...and still getting owned.
So I went on a brief hiatus and skipped an autocross here and there, until I had the privilege of driving Steven Rankins STX at a BRR autocross in Verona, VA and then again (thanks to Steven and Tara) in Mercer County, WV. Let me just say that once I drove that car, I gained an appreciation for what I was missing in GS. Whereas I had to plan out my braking, accelerating, and turns based on how much understeer I could expect, Rankins' car was just pivoting on cones with a flick of the steering wheel.
At this point I'm going to set my car up so that it is comfortable to me, power-wise and handling-wise, and whatever SCCA Solo II class that puts me in, that's where I'll be.
Those DSP results you're looking at were because of a Borla header, slotted front rotors, and a 20mm WRX rear swaybar...everything else is the same as my GS setup. I'm thinking the last few modifications I'll make will be some STi tarmac springs, possibly a cold air intake, and maybe a lightweight (but not underdriven) crank pulley.
Matt Ingraham gave me this quote:
A man is banging his head against a wall when another man comes up and asks him "Why are you banging your head against the wall?"
The man replies "Because it feels so good when I stop!"
Good luck in GS.
Well let's just say I was somewhat jaded after the 05 Toledo National Tour "Drag Race" event. After getting destroyed there and driving 9-10 hours back to Blacksburg with an obnoxiously loud exhaust, I decided maybe I should step back and take an overall view of the situation. Driving extremely long distances to get owned isn't my idea of a good time, and I'm not really into pumping money into getting shocks revalved, replacing my front swaybar or bushings or endlinks, just to eek out another tenth or two...and still getting owned.
So I went on a brief hiatus and skipped an autocross here and there, until I had the privilege of driving Steven Rankins STX at a BRR autocross in Verona, VA and then again (thanks to Steven and Tara) in Mercer County, WV. Let me just say that once I drove that car, I gained an appreciation for what I was missing in GS. Whereas I had to plan out my braking, accelerating, and turns based on how much understeer I could expect, Rankins' car was just pivoting on cones with a flick of the steering wheel.
At this point I'm going to set my car up so that it is comfortable to me, power-wise and handling-wise, and whatever SCCA Solo II class that puts me in, that's where I'll be.
Those DSP results you're looking at were because of a Borla header, slotted front rotors, and a 20mm WRX rear swaybar...everything else is the same as my GS setup. I'm thinking the last few modifications I'll make will be some STi tarmac springs, possibly a cold air intake, and maybe a lightweight (but not underdriven) crank pulley.
Matt Ingraham gave me this quote:
A man is banging his head against a wall when another man comes up and asks him "Why are you banging your head against the wall?"
The man replies "Because it feels so good when I stop!"
Good luck in GS.
| Fred | 03-14-2006 02:29 PM |
Phillip - you should skip the STi tarmac springs and go straight to ground controls. Even at around 400 lbs/in, they're not at all uncomfortable on the street with the konis, and they rock the autox courses. I ran with 350/400 8" springs on my RS in STS, and it was a blast - just not enough powah. The STi has cured that illness. :cool:
| fullup1 | 03-14-2006 02:43 PM |
[QUOTE=Fred]Phillip - you should skip the STi tarmac springs and go straight to ground controls. Even at around 400 lbs/in, they're not at all uncomfortable on the street with the konis, and they rock the autox courses. I ran with 350/400 8" springs on my RS in STS, and it was a blast - just not enough powah. The STi has cured that illness. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Geez, Rankins drops the RS for an STi, Kevin drops the RS for an STi, what is the world coming to? Seriously though, somebody loan me $20K, my RS should be worth $10K on trade.
Kevin, what was your full setup in STS/DSP? I figure it would be better to get it right on the first try rather than be unhappy with it and have to trade/sell stuff. How did you mount the threaded sleeves on the struts? Did you cut off the stock spring seat and weld on some sort of ring adapter for the sleeve to sit on?
Geez, Rankins drops the RS for an STi, Kevin drops the RS for an STi, what is the world coming to? Seriously though, somebody loan me $20K, my RS should be worth $10K on trade.
Kevin, what was your full setup in STS/DSP? I figure it would be better to get it right on the first try rather than be unhappy with it and have to trade/sell stuff. How did you mount the threaded sleeves on the struts? Did you cut off the stock spring seat and weld on some sort of ring adapter for the sleeve to sit on?
| ratt_finkel | 03-14-2006 03:10 PM |
Jeebus, boxer4 wants $199 for the bar, not including shipping. My iPd bar was only $100 shipped.
| Fred | 03-14-2006 03:20 PM |
I didn't drop the RS - it became the rallyx monster. I dropped the WRX wagon for the STi. :cool:
Last time I ran it was last year at Danville...
crash bolts added to front, -2.5�
20mm rear bar
kca375
stock strut bodies with perches cut off, ground control threaded sleeves
Koni inserts
Group N top mounts
350 front 400 rear 8" springs, ride height at 14.2" front, 14" rear
STi wheels with 225/45/17 Falken RT615's
2nd in PAX to Carl Fisher in the HS Mini, within a few tenths of the fastest STU STi's, a few tenths faster than Feinberg's STS2 CRX. It was a lot of fun - but not as fun as rallycrossing it. :D
Last time I ran it was last year at Danville...
crash bolts added to front, -2.5�
20mm rear bar
kca375
stock strut bodies with perches cut off, ground control threaded sleeves
Koni inserts
Group N top mounts
350 front 400 rear 8" springs, ride height at 14.2" front, 14" rear
STi wheels with 225/45/17 Falken RT615's
2nd in PAX to Carl Fisher in the HS Mini, within a few tenths of the fastest STU STi's, a few tenths faster than Feinberg's STS2 CRX. It was a lot of fun - but not as fun as rallycrossing it. :D
| Fred | 03-14-2006 03:23 PM |
Oh, yeah - on the threaded sleeves...
I just cut all but a little of the spring perch off - about a 1/4" was sticking out, which left enough for the sleeve to rest on. I think cutting off the perches dropped something like 7 lbs total - but don't quote me on that.
I just cut all but a little of the spring perch off - about a 1/4" was sticking out, which left enough for the sleeve to rest on. I think cutting off the perches dropped something like 7 lbs total - but don't quote me on that.
| ratt_finkel | 03-14-2006 03:35 PM |
[QUOTE=fullup1]Well let's just say I was somewhat jaded after the 05 Toledo National Tour "Drag Race" event. After getting destroyed there and driving 9-10 hours back to Blacksburg with an obnoxiously loud exhaust, I decided maybe I should step back and take an overall view of the situation. Driving extremely long distances to get owned isn't my idea of a good time, and I'm not really into pumping money into getting shocks revalved, replacing my front swaybar or bushings or endlinks, just to eek out another tenth or two...and still getting owned.
So I went on a brief hiatus and skipped an autocross here and there, until I had the privilege of driving Steven Rankins STX at a BRR autocross in Verona, VA and then again (thanks to Steven and Tara) in Mercer County, WV. Let me just say that once I drove that car, I gained an appreciation for what I was missing in GS. Whereas I had to plan out my braking, accelerating, and turns based on how much understeer I could expect, Rankins' car was just pivoting on cones with a flick of the steering wheel.
At this point I'm going to set my car up so that it is comfortable to me, power-wise and handling-wise, and whatever SCCA Solo II class that puts me in, that's where I'll be.
Those DSP results you're looking at were because of a Borla header, slotted front rotors, and a 20mm WRX rear swaybar...everything else is the same as my GS setup. I'm thinking the last few modifications I'll make will be some STi tarmac springs, possibly a cold air intake, and maybe a lightweight (but not underdriven) crank pulley.
Matt Ingraham gave me this quote:
A man is banging his head against a wall when another man comes up and asks him "Why are you banging your head against the wall?"
The man replies "Because it feels so good when I stop!"
Good luck in GS.[/QUOTE]
I remember the event, and the look of defeat in your posts. No offense, but you can't give up that easy. I had two great events last year, and then choked at Nationals. The car is an underdog, the driver is an underdog. I had and am going to continue to have fun no matter what. But I would hardly call it a futile attempt or waste of time. I know you're a good driver with a well setup car. Just saying you can't base everything on ONE event.
I meen all of this with the upmost respect.
Jeremy Foley
GS #80
So I went on a brief hiatus and skipped an autocross here and there, until I had the privilege of driving Steven Rankins STX at a BRR autocross in Verona, VA and then again (thanks to Steven and Tara) in Mercer County, WV. Let me just say that once I drove that car, I gained an appreciation for what I was missing in GS. Whereas I had to plan out my braking, accelerating, and turns based on how much understeer I could expect, Rankins' car was just pivoting on cones with a flick of the steering wheel.
At this point I'm going to set my car up so that it is comfortable to me, power-wise and handling-wise, and whatever SCCA Solo II class that puts me in, that's where I'll be.
Those DSP results you're looking at were because of a Borla header, slotted front rotors, and a 20mm WRX rear swaybar...everything else is the same as my GS setup. I'm thinking the last few modifications I'll make will be some STi tarmac springs, possibly a cold air intake, and maybe a lightweight (but not underdriven) crank pulley.
Matt Ingraham gave me this quote:
A man is banging his head against a wall when another man comes up and asks him "Why are you banging your head against the wall?"
The man replies "Because it feels so good when I stop!"
Good luck in GS.[/QUOTE]
I remember the event, and the look of defeat in your posts. No offense, but you can't give up that easy. I had two great events last year, and then choked at Nationals. The car is an underdog, the driver is an underdog. I had and am going to continue to have fun no matter what. But I would hardly call it a futile attempt or waste of time. I know you're a good driver with a well setup car. Just saying you can't base everything on ONE event.
I meen all of this with the upmost respect.
Jeremy Foley
GS #80
| fullup1 | 03-14-2006 03:38 PM |
Sweet, thanks for the info on the setup and the threaded sleeves.
We'll see what I can get installed when the next paycheck comes around.
We'll see what I can get installed when the next paycheck comes around.
| ratt_finkel | 03-14-2006 04:14 PM |
Dammit, addco's box supplier sent them the wrong damn boxes. And they can't send the damn bars out for 2 weeks. ARGHSAHFJKHASFJKHASJKFASDFJKD
I don't even know if I can get the thing before the Arkansas Tour, let alone before this saturday for a test and tune. Dammit.
Anyone have that bar they can sell me? Rankins?
I don't even know if I can get the thing before the Arkansas Tour, let alone before this saturday for a test and tune. Dammit.
Anyone have that bar they can sell me? Rankins?
| fullup1 | 03-14-2006 04:20 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]I remember the event, and the look of defeat in your posts. No offense, but you can't give up that easy. I had two great events last year, and then choked at Nationals. The car is an underdog, the driver is an underdog. I had and am going to continue to have fun no matter what. But I would hardly call it a futile attempt or waste of time. I know you're a good driver with a well setup car. Just saying you can't base everything on ONE event.
I meen all of this with the upmost respect.
Jeremy Foley
GS #80[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on everything, but in addition to having a rough event I also came to the realization that I'm probably not in a great position to devote tons of time to getting my car setup up perfectly or driving out to events 10+ hours away. In a few years, perhaps, but right now I've got a PhD and a wedding to focus on.
As for that one event, I know for certain that that event is not representative of National Tour events, as most everyone was disappointed with the misuse of space. For the size of tarmac that the Toledo airport afforded, a 40 second run was ridiculous. Just this past weekend the BRR had an autocross on a lot probably 1/6th the size of the Toledo lot, and we were able to get 50 second runs. I understand that National courses are more wide open, but when the first 13 seconds of the course are spent with my foot to the floor, there's only so much I can do to get a better overall time. When I then looked at the HS results for that event and others, and saw that HS Mini's were as fast or faster than I was in my RS, I made up my mind that the RS was misclassed.
Power and weight are not everything, but unfortunately the MCS has both of these over the RS. Then there is the whole aspect of putting more power through two wheels with an LSD rather than less power through four wheels. No matter what tweaks or driver improvement I can go through, I don't think I can make up a 4 second difference shown in the results from Nationals between the top MCS and the top RS. In my opinion it's a matter of a car being misclassed, not a matter of people not putting enough effort into tweaking and tuning their RS's. But that is my opinion.
[more opinion]
I thought it was a mistake to keep the MCS in GS and move all of DS down, when the same thing could have been achieved by just moving one car, the MCS, up to DS. The same thing goes for the Mini Cooper. Rather than moving one car up from HS to GS, they moved a bunch of cars down from GS to HS, unfortunately not including the RS.
[/more opinion]
I hope you or someone else does really well in an RS in GS and shows the MCS and Celica community that the RS can compete, but as for me, I'll stick to local events and just having a good time.
I meen all of this with the upmost respect.
Jeremy Foley
GS #80[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on everything, but in addition to having a rough event I also came to the realization that I'm probably not in a great position to devote tons of time to getting my car setup up perfectly or driving out to events 10+ hours away. In a few years, perhaps, but right now I've got a PhD and a wedding to focus on.
As for that one event, I know for certain that that event is not representative of National Tour events, as most everyone was disappointed with the misuse of space. For the size of tarmac that the Toledo airport afforded, a 40 second run was ridiculous. Just this past weekend the BRR had an autocross on a lot probably 1/6th the size of the Toledo lot, and we were able to get 50 second runs. I understand that National courses are more wide open, but when the first 13 seconds of the course are spent with my foot to the floor, there's only so much I can do to get a better overall time. When I then looked at the HS results for that event and others, and saw that HS Mini's were as fast or faster than I was in my RS, I made up my mind that the RS was misclassed.
Power and weight are not everything, but unfortunately the MCS has both of these over the RS. Then there is the whole aspect of putting more power through two wheels with an LSD rather than less power through four wheels. No matter what tweaks or driver improvement I can go through, I don't think I can make up a 4 second difference shown in the results from Nationals between the top MCS and the top RS. In my opinion it's a matter of a car being misclassed, not a matter of people not putting enough effort into tweaking and tuning their RS's. But that is my opinion.
[more opinion]
I thought it was a mistake to keep the MCS in GS and move all of DS down, when the same thing could have been achieved by just moving one car, the MCS, up to DS. The same thing goes for the Mini Cooper. Rather than moving one car up from HS to GS, they moved a bunch of cars down from GS to HS, unfortunately not including the RS.
[/more opinion]
I hope you or someone else does really well in an RS in GS and shows the MCS and Celica community that the RS can compete, but as for me, I'll stick to local events and just having a good time.
| ratt_finkel | 03-14-2006 04:44 PM |
[QUOTE=fullup1]I agree with you on everything, but in addition to having a rough event I also came to the realization that I'm probably not in a great position to devote tons of time to getting my car setup up perfectly or driving out to events 10+ hours away. In a few years, perhaps, but right now I've got a PhD and a wedding to focus on.
As for that one event, I know for certain that that event is not representative of National Tour events, as most everyone was disappointed with the misuse of space. For the size of tarmac that the Toledo airport afforded, a 40 second run was ridiculous. Just this past weekend the BRR had an autocross on a lot probably 1/6th the size of the Toledo lot, and we were able to get 50 second runs. I understand that National courses are more wide open, but when the first 13 seconds of the course are spent with my foot to the floor, there's only so much I can do to get a better overall time. When I then looked at the HS results for that event and others, and saw that HS Mini's were as fast or faster than I was in my RS, I made up my mind that the RS was misclassed.
Power and weight are not everything, but unfortunately the MCS has both of these over the RS. Then there is the whole aspect of putting more power through two wheels with an LSD rather than less power through four wheels. No matter what tweaks or driver improvement I can go through, I don't think I can make up a 4 second difference shown in the results from Nationals between the top MCS and the top RS. In my opinion it's a matter of a car being misclassed, not a matter of people not putting enough effort into tweaking and tuning their RS's. But that is my opinion.
[more opinion]
I thought it was a mistake to keep the MCS in GS and move all of DS down, when the same thing could have been achieved by just moving one car, the MCS, up to DS. The same thing goes for the Mini Cooper. Rather than moving one car up from HS to GS, they moved a bunch of cars down from GS to HS, unfortunately not including the RS.
[/more opinion]
I hope you or someone else does really well in an RS in GS and shows the MCS and Celica community that the RS can compete, but as for me, I'll stick to local events and just having a good time.[/QUOTE]
I agree %100. Hopefully, I can narrow that gap this year. Remember though, at the Houston Tour last year I was only 0.4 seconds back on day 2 from the current GS champ. And that also, nats will be held on assphault this year. If I can pull my head out of my postier this year, I think things will go well. But who knows. Good luck with the Phd and the upcoming marriage!
As for that one event, I know for certain that that event is not representative of National Tour events, as most everyone was disappointed with the misuse of space. For the size of tarmac that the Toledo airport afforded, a 40 second run was ridiculous. Just this past weekend the BRR had an autocross on a lot probably 1/6th the size of the Toledo lot, and we were able to get 50 second runs. I understand that National courses are more wide open, but when the first 13 seconds of the course are spent with my foot to the floor, there's only so much I can do to get a better overall time. When I then looked at the HS results for that event and others, and saw that HS Mini's were as fast or faster than I was in my RS, I made up my mind that the RS was misclassed.
Power and weight are not everything, but unfortunately the MCS has both of these over the RS. Then there is the whole aspect of putting more power through two wheels with an LSD rather than less power through four wheels. No matter what tweaks or driver improvement I can go through, I don't think I can make up a 4 second difference shown in the results from Nationals between the top MCS and the top RS. In my opinion it's a matter of a car being misclassed, not a matter of people not putting enough effort into tweaking and tuning their RS's. But that is my opinion.
[more opinion]
I thought it was a mistake to keep the MCS in GS and move all of DS down, when the same thing could have been achieved by just moving one car, the MCS, up to DS. The same thing goes for the Mini Cooper. Rather than moving one car up from HS to GS, they moved a bunch of cars down from GS to HS, unfortunately not including the RS.
[/more opinion]
I hope you or someone else does really well in an RS in GS and shows the MCS and Celica community that the RS can compete, but as for me, I'll stick to local events and just having a good time.[/QUOTE]
I agree %100. Hopefully, I can narrow that gap this year. Remember though, at the Houston Tour last year I was only 0.4 seconds back on day 2 from the current GS champ. And that also, nats will be held on assphault this year. If I can pull my head out of my postier this year, I think things will go well. But who knows. Good luck with the Phd and the upcoming marriage!
| Fred | 03-14-2006 07:52 PM |
Phillip - Just wanted to add that if I had felt like revalving the Konis, I would've tried 400 front/ 500 rear. Didn't want to do that, so I just went with the softer springs. The rears have finally worn out now, and the fronts are probably getting close, so if I get tired of the STi - :eek: :lol: - I may do an autox or two with the RS this year with the stiffer setup. Hopefully we can both get to the same event somewhere with the RSes - that would be fun. :)
| sstrano | 03-15-2006 03:44 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Jeebus, boxer4 wants $199 for the bar, not including shipping. My iPd bar was only $100 shipped.[/QUOTE]
For the Addco 25mm bar? I can beat that by about 3 miles. :)
For the Addco 25mm bar? I can beat that by about 3 miles. :)
| ratt_finkel | 03-15-2006 04:33 PM |
[QUOTE=sstrano]For the Addco 25mm bar? I can beat that by about 3 miles. :)[/QUOTE]
Nice. I tried calling you yesterday to see if you were able to get the bar. Or somehow get the bar from addco and ship it to me. But the guy said you were on the phone. :(
Nice. I tried calling you yesterday to see if you were able to get the bar. Or somehow get the bar from addco and ship it to me. But the guy said you were on the phone. :(
| sstrano | 03-16-2006 11:59 AM |
Well, I run a business... and that means I have to talk to customers (even ones that don't own Subaru's). Did you leave a message? Did you ask the "guy" (my father) for the price?
Call back. You don't necessarily need to speak to me. If you want to, that's fine but I need to know who you are, where to reach you, etc..... Unfortuntately, even though I run in ESP most of the time, I don't actually *have* ESP. ;) You are looking for a cataloged part, and my parents are also not clueless. They are the only other two here, and I learned most of what I know from them. :)
Call back. You don't necessarily need to speak to me. If you want to, that's fine but I need to know who you are, where to reach you, etc..... Unfortuntately, even though I run in ESP most of the time, I don't actually *have* ESP. ;) You are looking for a cataloged part, and my parents are also not clueless. They are the only other two here, and I learned most of what I know from them. :)
| ratt_finkel | 03-16-2006 02:18 PM |
[QUOTE=sstrano]Well, I run a business... and that means I have to talk to customers (even ones that don't own Subaru's). Did you leave a message? Did you ask the "guy" (my father) for the price?
Call back. You don't necessarily need to speak to me. If you want to, that's fine but I need to know who you are, where to reach you, etc..... Unfortuntately, even though I run in ESP most of the time, I don't actually *have* ESP. ;) You are looking for a cataloged part, and my parents are also not clueless. They are the only other two here, and I learned most of what I know from them. :)[/QUOTE]
I spoke to your father, but he never asked if I wanted to purchase or order anything with you guys. He just told me that all addco parts have a huge delay. Didn't offer to take a message, so I didn't leave one.
Call back. You don't necessarily need to speak to me. If you want to, that's fine but I need to know who you are, where to reach you, etc..... Unfortuntately, even though I run in ESP most of the time, I don't actually *have* ESP. ;) You are looking for a cataloged part, and my parents are also not clueless. They are the only other two here, and I learned most of what I know from them. :)[/QUOTE]
I spoke to your father, but he never asked if I wanted to purchase or order anything with you guys. He just told me that all addco parts have a huge delay. Didn't offer to take a message, so I didn't leave one.
| sstrano | 03-16-2006 03:24 PM |
Addco is backed up because they were out of boxes for the last 3 weeks. Now that they have boxes, they are catching up.
I can't say how the conversation went, and suspect that he was trying to be upfront with you and let you know that Addco is a bit behind....... But we sell auto parts, that's what we do.
I can't say how the conversation went, and suspect that he was trying to be upfront with you and let you know that Addco is a bit behind....... But we sell auto parts, that's what we do.
| ratt_finkel | 03-16-2006 03:44 PM |
[QUOTE=sstrano]Addco is backed up because they were out of boxes for the last 3 weeks. Now that they have boxes, they are catching up.
I can't say how the conversation went, and suspect that he was trying to be upfront with you and let you know that Addco is a bit behind....... But we sell auto parts, that's what we do.[/QUOTE]
haha, without sidetracking this conversation too much. He was very forthcoming and answered my questions. Even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear. If you'd like. I'd love to see (PM) a price quote with a shipping ETA sent to 75287.
Thank You
Jeremy Foley
Back to tires, some people seem to believe that the 225/50 kumhos will be faster than the 245/45 Hoosiers. If that's true, that sucks.
I can't say how the conversation went, and suspect that he was trying to be upfront with you and let you know that Addco is a bit behind....... But we sell auto parts, that's what we do.[/QUOTE]
haha, without sidetracking this conversation too much. He was very forthcoming and answered my questions. Even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear. If you'd like. I'd love to see (PM) a price quote with a shipping ETA sent to 75287.
Thank You
Jeremy Foley
Back to tires, some people seem to believe that the 225/50 kumhos will be faster than the 245/45 Hoosiers. If that's true, that sucks.
| ratt_finkel | 04-04-2006 09:36 AM |
I ended up going with the Kumhos' again. I'll let someone else do the testing on the hoosiers.
This weekend I was lucky enough to take 3rd in a 14 car field. Greg Reno is a proven performer, Matt Jensen took 5th at nationals. Jeff Jacobs is usually fast, though just like everyone else has his off days. So I'm defintely happy with my performamnce. Day one defintely suited my car more than the minis. After Day one, 0.257 behind first, 0.175 ahead of third.
Day two was unfortuneately suited to the minis. I was unable to break into the 47's. With Greg, Matt, and Jeff all doing just that. I ran 48.0xx twice and honestly don't think the car could've gone any faster. Luckily I only slipped to 3rd.
I'm going to try running even lower air pressures this weekend in the pro. Probably 25 front 30 rear.
I'm also going to try and cram some 265/45/16 V710's on the front of the car after the Houston Tour.
[url]http://www.scca.com/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=258[/url]
This weekend I was lucky enough to take 3rd in a 14 car field. Greg Reno is a proven performer, Matt Jensen took 5th at nationals. Jeff Jacobs is usually fast, though just like everyone else has his off days. So I'm defintely happy with my performamnce. Day one defintely suited my car more than the minis. After Day one, 0.257 behind first, 0.175 ahead of third.
Day two was unfortuneately suited to the minis. I was unable to break into the 47's. With Greg, Matt, and Jeff all doing just that. I ran 48.0xx twice and honestly don't think the car could've gone any faster. Luckily I only slipped to 3rd.
I'm going to try running even lower air pressures this weekend in the pro. Probably 25 front 30 rear.
I'm also going to try and cram some 265/45/16 V710's on the front of the car after the Houston Tour.
[url]http://www.scca.com/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=258[/url]
| 10th Warrior | 04-04-2006 12:44 PM |
[quote]I'm also going to try and cram some 265/45/16 V710's on the front of the car after the Houston Tour.[/quote]
ballz :D
Great driving this weekend, Jeremy :banana:
ballz :D
Great driving this weekend, Jeremy :banana:
| ratt_finkel | 04-04-2006 01:07 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]ballz :D
Great driving this weekend, Jeremy :banana:[/QUOTE]
haha, I could think of another name for it. :lol:
And thanks Jeff, good seeing you again, you drove really well yourself. :disco: I don't know what I would do with a car like that.
Great driving this weekend, Jeremy :banana:[/QUOTE]
haha, I could think of another name for it. :lol:
And thanks Jeff, good seeing you again, you drove really well yourself. :disco: I don't know what I would do with a car like that.
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