| grandpa rex | 03-30-2004 12:54 PM |
GP Bahrain
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Where is this place anyway? And what are they doing having an F1 race there? This is just a fat payday for Bernie.
Anyway here are my picks this week:
1. MS
2. Raikkonen
3. RB
4. Alonso
5. Button
6. JPM
7. Ralfie
8. Trulli
Anyway here are my picks this week:
1. MS
2. Raikkonen
3. RB
4. Alonso
5. Button
6. JPM
7. Ralfie
8. Trulli
| gtguy | 03-30-2004 01:00 PM |
Raikkonen? Aren't you optimistic! :lol:
1. MS
2. JPM
3. RB
4. FA
5. JB
6. JT
7. TS
8. DC
The sand is going to gum up the works, I think. It will be interesting to see if any failures result from the stuff.
Kevin
1. MS
2. JPM
3. RB
4. FA
5. JB
6. JT
7. TS
8. DC
The sand is going to gum up the works, I think. It will be interesting to see if any failures result from the stuff.
Kevin
| erich_sc | 03-30-2004 01:25 PM |
1. MS
2. JPM
3. RB
4. FA
5. RS
6. JB
7. KR
8. DC
I let my girlfriend pick the top four so we'll see how she did. :)
Something else to discuss...
Friday, April 2, 2004
1:00 am F1 DECADE 1994 San Marino Grand Prix
Saturday, April 3, 2004
12:00 pm F1 DECADE 1994 San Marino Grand Prix
Who'll be watching? I'm going to... :(
2. JPM
3. RB
4. FA
5. RS
6. JB
7. KR
8. DC
I let my girlfriend pick the top four so we'll see how she did. :)
Something else to discuss...
Friday, April 2, 2004
1:00 am F1 DECADE 1994 San Marino Grand Prix
Saturday, April 3, 2004
12:00 pm F1 DECADE 1994 San Marino Grand Prix
Who'll be watching? I'm going to... :(
| BillT | 03-30-2004 02:38 PM |
Here are my picks:
1. MS - I was tempted to take Alonso to change things up but decided not to
2. FA - He'll be fast and trying to prove himself from the last race
3. RB - Good driver in the best car with the best team behind him
4. JPM - The BMW will be close, but unable to match the pace of the Ferrari's or FA, perhaps concerned about reliability
5. JB - He'll continue his point scoring streak in the much improved Honda - he may win a race this year and will consistenly be in the top 8 for the season
6. MW - He won't qualify as well as Malaysia, but he'll finish this time
7. RS - will baby the car to try to ensure a finish
8. KR - see RS
1. MS - I was tempted to take Alonso to change things up but decided not to
2. FA - He'll be fast and trying to prove himself from the last race
3. RB - Good driver in the best car with the best team behind him
4. JPM - The BMW will be close, but unable to match the pace of the Ferrari's or FA, perhaps concerned about reliability
5. JB - He'll continue his point scoring streak in the much improved Honda - he may win a race this year and will consistenly be in the top 8 for the season
6. MW - He won't qualify as well as Malaysia, but he'll finish this time
7. RS - will baby the car to try to ensure a finish
8. KR - see RS
| Arioch | 03-30-2004 02:40 PM |
1) JPM
2) KR
3) Truli
4) DC
5) RS
6) RB
7) Sato
8) JB
Michelin are going to have a huge advantage here. The FW25 ran 25 laps here already for the opening... some sort of "promo" for unveiling the track. Michelin have all the data they'll need to make tires for this new track. They know how abrassive the track is, they know the grip levels... This [i]should[/i] be huge for them.
MS will go out with an engine failure (sand) and Sato will finish ahead of JB because he won't spin at all this weekend! ;)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by erich_sc [/i]
[B]
Something else to discuss...
Who'll be watching? I'm going to... :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I'll not only be watching it, I'll be capturing it on my PC. I wasn't watching F1 much in 94, but I've seen the incident a few times... :( It'll be interesting to see how they handle both Senna and Roland Ratzenberger's death, and Woobin's [i]really[/i] bad crash from that weekend...
2) KR
3) Truli
4) DC
5) RS
6) RB
7) Sato
8) JB
Michelin are going to have a huge advantage here. The FW25 ran 25 laps here already for the opening... some sort of "promo" for unveiling the track. Michelin have all the data they'll need to make tires for this new track. They know how abrassive the track is, they know the grip levels... This [i]should[/i] be huge for them.
MS will go out with an engine failure (sand) and Sato will finish ahead of JB because he won't spin at all this weekend! ;)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by erich_sc [/i]
[B]
Something else to discuss...
Who'll be watching? I'm going to... :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I'll not only be watching it, I'll be capturing it on my PC. I wasn't watching F1 much in 94, but I've seen the incident a few times... :( It'll be interesting to see how they handle both Senna and Roland Ratzenberger's death, and Woobin's [i]really[/i] bad crash from that weekend...
| erich_sc | 03-30-2004 03:07 PM |
Rubens and Ratzenberger's accidents were before the actual race right? Crazy that all that happened in one weekend. :( Not all on the same corner was it?
| Dr. WOT | 03-31-2004 10:16 AM |
No, different corners.
Bahrain should be quite interesting. I hate to be grim but I have some concerns about staging a race in the middle east. Hopefully this weekend's events are confined to the track only.
With that out of the way, what to expect from a new track? No reason why the Bridgestones shouldn't be as competitve here as they were in Sepang. Can anyone stop Ferrari? Being that we are in the midst of a series of fly-away races, I don't really expect any significant developments from the other teams, so this race could well be status quo.
I do expect Alanso to have some better luck here and could give Ferrari a strong challenge. My rooting interest is with BAR, I want to see them continue to stick it to McLaren and hopefully Williams too.
Bahrain should be quite interesting. I hate to be grim but I have some concerns about staging a race in the middle east. Hopefully this weekend's events are confined to the track only.
With that out of the way, what to expect from a new track? No reason why the Bridgestones shouldn't be as competitve here as they were in Sepang. Can anyone stop Ferrari? Being that we are in the midst of a series of fly-away races, I don't really expect any significant developments from the other teams, so this race could well be status quo.
I do expect Alanso to have some better luck here and could give Ferrari a strong challenge. My rooting interest is with BAR, I want to see them continue to stick it to McLaren and hopefully Williams too.
| HoRo1 | 03-31-2004 10:26 AM |
I'm predicting a sandy disaster for most teams.
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Courtesy of the BBC
Drivers have been banned from the traditional podium celebration of spraying champagne at Sunday's inaugural Bahrain Grand Prix.
The race is the first Formula One Grand Prix to be held in the Middle East.
Alcohol and scantily-clad "pit girls" would not be appreciated in the Islamic country, said Bahrain's deputy speaker Adel al-Moawada.
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Courtesy of the BBC
Drivers have been banned from the traditional podium celebration of spraying champagne at Sunday's inaugural Bahrain Grand Prix.
The race is the first Formula One Grand Prix to be held in the Middle East.
Alcohol and scantily-clad "pit girls" would not be appreciated in the Islamic country, said Bahrain's deputy speaker Adel al-Moawada.
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| AndyRoo | 03-31-2004 03:00 PM |
will they be spraying sparkling cider on one another instead? :rolleyes:
and no scantily clad pit girls = last GP i would ever want to see in person
1. MS - new course, best driver
2. JPM - not far behind
3. FA - hes good
4. RS - no real reason
5. Trulli - hes also good
6. JB - i can see him consistently podiuming this season
7. Kimi - will finish or be reeaally pissed
8. DC - same as above
and no scantily clad pit girls = last GP i would ever want to see in person
1. MS - new course, best driver
2. JPM - not far behind
3. FA - hes good
4. RS - no real reason
5. Trulli - hes also good
6. JB - i can see him consistently podiuming this season
7. Kimi - will finish or be reeaally pissed
8. DC - same as above
| Storm | 03-31-2004 03:16 PM |
Bahrain is a nice island. It shouldn't be any more sandy than any other island.:lol: Even though alcohol is allowed in Bahrain, I'm sure that it's use will be curtailed out of respect for the religions of that region.
F1 tunnelboat racing has become huge in the middle east for a long time now. This should be a good event.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
F1 tunnelboat racing has become huge in the middle east for a long time now. This should be a good event.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
| AndyRoo | 03-31-2004 03:34 PM |
from f1live.com
"The winner of the Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix will celebrate on the victory podium with a drink specially produced for the first Formula One race in the Middle East.
In respect of the culture and traditions of the Kingdom of Bahrain and the Arabic world, the first three drivers in the Grand Prix will celebrate their success not with champagne but with a special drink formulated for the occasion. "Warrd" is a unique blend of locally grown fruit - pomegranate and trinj mixed with rosewater, to produce a stunning juice with the taste and aroma of the island. The carbonated drink Warrd was revealed to expectant members of the regional and international media who were visiting the circuit on Wednesday 31 st March.
Speaking at the tasting HE Shaikh Fawaz bin Mohammed Al Khalifa, Chairman of the Bahrain International Circuit said, "The winner's celebration after the Grand Prix is synonymous with the sport of Formula One. Here in Bahrain we want to keep the traditional ceremony for the winner but to do it with a non- alcoholic beverage that is in keeping with our culture and traditions. The winner's ceremony in Bahrain will therefore be a unique occasion in the FIA Formula One World Championship and will be yet another reminder of the traditions that make the Kingdom a memorable place to hold the Grand Prix."
The Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix, third round of the FIA Formula One World Championship, takes place on April 2nd - 4th 2004."
"The winner of the Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix will celebrate on the victory podium with a drink specially produced for the first Formula One race in the Middle East.
In respect of the culture and traditions of the Kingdom of Bahrain and the Arabic world, the first three drivers in the Grand Prix will celebrate their success not with champagne but with a special drink formulated for the occasion. "Warrd" is a unique blend of locally grown fruit - pomegranate and trinj mixed with rosewater, to produce a stunning juice with the taste and aroma of the island. The carbonated drink Warrd was revealed to expectant members of the regional and international media who were visiting the circuit on Wednesday 31 st March.
Speaking at the tasting HE Shaikh Fawaz bin Mohammed Al Khalifa, Chairman of the Bahrain International Circuit said, "The winner's celebration after the Grand Prix is synonymous with the sport of Formula One. Here in Bahrain we want to keep the traditional ceremony for the winner but to do it with a non- alcoholic beverage that is in keeping with our culture and traditions. The winner's ceremony in Bahrain will therefore be a unique occasion in the FIA Formula One World Championship and will be yet another reminder of the traditions that make the Kingdom a memorable place to hold the Grand Prix."
The Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix, third round of the FIA Formula One World Championship, takes place on April 2nd - 4th 2004."
| ArtGecko | 04-01-2004 07:47 PM |
M.Schumacher
F.Alonso
J.Montoya
J.Button
R.Barrichello
K.Raikkonen
D.Coulthard
R.Schumacher
F.Alonso
J.Montoya
J.Button
R.Barrichello
K.Raikkonen
D.Coulthard
R.Schumacher
| rupertberr | 04-01-2004 08:47 PM |
M.Schumacher Ferrari
R.Barrichello Ferrari
F.Alonso Renault
J.Montoya Williams McLaren
J.Button BAR
R.Schumacher Williams Toyota
K.Raikkonen McLaren
J. Trulli Renault
Hope there is no terrorism.
:(
R.Barrichello Ferrari
F.Alonso Renault
J.Montoya Williams McLaren
J.Button BAR
R.Schumacher Williams Toyota
K.Raikkonen McLaren
J. Trulli Renault
Hope there is no terrorism.
:(
| Ferg | 04-02-2004 12:14 AM |
1. Montoya
2. M Schumacher
3. R Schumacher
4. J Button
5. K Raikkonen
6. D Coulthard
7. M Webber
8. T Sato
:)
2. M Schumacher
3. R Schumacher
4. J Button
5. K Raikkonen
6. D Coulthard
7. M Webber
8. T Sato
:)
| BillT | 04-02-2004 08:29 AM |
I got up early to watch the pratice session and Ferrari, Williams, and Honda were all looking pretty good. There does appear to be an issue with some of the Michelin tires as about 3 of them totally delaminated during practice - the announcers were speculating that it might have been a combination of using a softer compound coupled with going off track into the sand/gravel that might have been causing it. Also, based on their performance so far in the first two races and this practice session, I don't know if you can really use the term 'Top 3 teams' and include McLaren in that due to serious reliability issues. This race should be a fun one!
| TimStevens | 04-02-2004 08:57 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AndyRoo[/i]
[B]"Warrd" is a unique blend of locally grown fruit - pomegranate and trinj mixed with rosewater, to produce a stunning juice with the taste and aroma of the island. [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm.... tastes like.... island... :(
What's up with Kimi? I think someone needs to teach that kid how to shift without blowing the motor or something.
[B]"Warrd" is a unique blend of locally grown fruit - pomegranate and trinj mixed with rosewater, to produce a stunning juice with the taste and aroma of the island. [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm.... tastes like.... island... :(
What's up with Kimi? I think someone needs to teach that kid how to shift without blowing the motor or something.
| Bonzo | 04-02-2004 09:07 AM |
It may be from the extra course surface they laid down to apperantly combat the possible sand on the surface. They also said this top layer may come off from the forces generated...
speedtv.com I believe is where I read this.
speedtv.com I believe is where I read this.
| Dussander | 04-02-2004 10:45 AM |
The practice was interesting. Here's hoping Juan doesn't blow an engine. I think Ferrari is playing it smart with the better air filters. Kimi is having a very unlucky year so far. Mercedes is having terrible luck and Renault is having a bad time as well. BAR is doing well. Klien was strangely impressive.
| driggity | 04-02-2004 10:45 AM |
[QUOTE]Michelin's F1 programme manager Pascal Vasselon said: �We have found identical marks on all three affected tyres and they all suffered kerb impact damage prior to deflating. We are investigating with partners and authorities the source of damage.�[/QUOTE]
From autosport.com
Full article here: [url]http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=26646&s=5[/url]
Michelin says they did lots of winter testing but I'd imagine that things would be a bit different with a 130 degree track than during the winter.
From autosport.com
Full article here: [url]http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=26646&s=5[/url]
Michelin says they did lots of winter testing but I'd imagine that things would be a bit different with a 130 degree track than during the winter.
| driggity | 04-02-2004 11:50 AM |
From elsewhere on Autosport
[QUOTE]How much kerb you can take is always part of the learning process at a new circuit and Button added:�You can't ride them too much. The exit kerbs maybe a little bit but not the apex ones, which are very big.�[/QUOTE]
I wonder if the tire issues were a result of the combination of high temps and hitting the apex curbs too hard.
[QUOTE]How much kerb you can take is always part of the learning process at a new circuit and Button added:�You can't ride them too much. The exit kerbs maybe a little bit but not the apex ones, which are very big.�[/QUOTE]
I wonder if the tire issues were a result of the combination of high temps and hitting the apex curbs too hard.
| wrxinfx | 04-02-2004 12:03 PM |
kerbs being fixed
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They are modifying the curbs tonight. There was a problem with a drain grate near the curbs that was slicing the tires.
[url]http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=46946[/url]
[url]http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=46946[/url]
| TV3WRX | 04-02-2004 02:08 PM |
Practice Times, the BAR Honda
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Go to F1.com and pull up the sector times and more importantly the trap speeds. Some real surprises there. The BAR/Honda slayed all on that straight (with the third driver.) They must really be making power now with that engine, and it also looks like he has wired that last tight turn before the straight to get a good run out of it.
Judging by the sector time comparisons, Ferrari's strength is in sector 1 which is the most technical and low-speed. I think that is where their chassis/setup/tires shine the most. Interesting stuff.
Williams or someone needs to offer BAR's third driver a full time seat next year. That kid is fast.
Judging by the sector time comparisons, Ferrari's strength is in sector 1 which is the most technical and low-speed. I think that is where their chassis/setup/tires shine the most. Interesting stuff.
Williams or someone needs to offer BAR's third driver a full time seat next year. That kid is fast.
| OnTheGas | 04-02-2004 04:58 PM |
OnTheGas Picks
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[list=1][*][b]Micheal[/b] - Malaysia showed that the Bridgestones can hang well in the heat.[*][b]Juan[/b] - So far, he's the Michelin runner keeping Michael honest[*][b]Ralfie[/b] - Mr. Inconsistant... Williams would be smart to re-hire him for a dime, or else just let him go[*][b]Rubens[/b] - I should have put him on the podium... don't know what I'm thinking here![*][b]Kimi[/b] - If he didn't have bad luck... :) I'm not sure Mercedes McLaren has the speed to push someone else off the podium[*][b]David[/b] - He said today that the new circuit doesn't have good passing opportunities... Bummer for him, since he qualifies poorly! :D[*][b]Fernando[/b] - He should finish higher up in the points[*][b]Jarno[/b] - Chasing his team-mate...[/list=1]
These are the F1P6 picks I submitted on Wednesday or Thursday this week... been busy, didn't put much thought into it. I like the folks picking MW and JB in the points, rightly so! Also those picking Fernando to podium... Ralfie said that the Renault is the best chassis on the circuit right now, but his perspective is that Fernando ran away from him at Australia. My perspective is that when Juan got a clear run at Malaysia, the Williams chassis looked better than in Ralf's hands at OZ! :)
These are the F1P6 picks I submitted on Wednesday or Thursday this week... been busy, didn't put much thought into it. I like the folks picking MW and JB in the points, rightly so! Also those picking Fernando to podium... Ralfie said that the Renault is the best chassis on the circuit right now, but his perspective is that Fernando ran away from him at Australia. My perspective is that when Juan got a clear run at Malaysia, the Williams chassis looked better than in Ralf's hands at OZ! :)
| SolbergWRCfan | 04-02-2004 05:16 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens[/i]
[B]What's up with Kimi? I think someone needs to teach that kid how to shift without blowing the motor or something. [/B][/QUOTE]
Dumbest comment ever, the shifts are controlled by the computer and the engine can't be over revved because the computer will only allow downshifts at the proper RPM. Kimi is an excellent driver, his crappy Ilmor lump has just let him down because it is junk and the MP4-19 is wrapped too tigtly around the rear to allow optimum temp. Also the mercedes engine is down on power compared to where it was last year and it wasn't very good last year. Most teams have kept the same horsepower or gained some.
Jon
[B]What's up with Kimi? I think someone needs to teach that kid how to shift without blowing the motor or something. [/B][/QUOTE]
Dumbest comment ever, the shifts are controlled by the computer and the engine can't be over revved because the computer will only allow downshifts at the proper RPM. Kimi is an excellent driver, his crappy Ilmor lump has just let him down because it is junk and the MP4-19 is wrapped too tigtly around the rear to allow optimum temp. Also the mercedes engine is down on power compared to where it was last year and it wasn't very good last year. Most teams have kept the same horsepower or gained some.
Jon
| rupertberr | 04-02-2004 05:37 PM |
With Juan going to McLaren and Ralphie going to Toyota, who is going to drive for Williams next year?
| driggity | 04-02-2004 06:12 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrxinfx[/i]
[B] They are modifying the curbs tonight. There was a problem with a drain grate near the curbs that was slicing the tires.
[url]http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=46946[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Good thing they got this figured out during practice and it will fixed by qualifying. And its fortunate that no major crashes were caused by it.
[B] They are modifying the curbs tonight. There was a problem with a drain grate near the curbs that was slicing the tires.
[url]http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=46946[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Good thing they got this figured out during practice and it will fixed by qualifying. And its fortunate that no major crashes were caused by it.
| AndyRoo | 04-02-2004 07:57 PM |
"dumbest comment ever" is a little harsh
| Ferg | 04-03-2004 12:44 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rupertberr[/i]
[B] With Juan going to McLaren and Ralphie going to Toyota, who is going to drive for Williams next year? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm putting my money of Mark Webber and Scott Dixon.
[B] With Juan going to McLaren and Ralphie going to Toyota, who is going to drive for Williams next year? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm putting my money of Mark Webber and Scott Dixon.
| SolbergWRCfan | 04-03-2004 02:33 AM |
It will most likely be Ralf and Webber at Williams. Dixon will end up going to Toyota as he has been a protege of theirs for awhile. Ralf might be wise to go to Toyota though, as Mike Gascoyne's work will eventually pay off. I just hope he stays at Williams because of the BMW connection. Gotta love the M Power.
Jon
PS: Ralf is my favorite driver in F1 but even I will admit he is too inconsistent to be WDC.
Jon
PS: Ralf is my favorite driver in F1 but even I will admit he is too inconsistent to be WDC.
| rupertberr | 04-03-2004 08:22 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SolbergWRCfan [/i]
[B]It will most likely be Ralf and Webber at Williams. Dixon will end up going to Toyota as he has been a protege of theirs for awhile. Ralf might be wise to go to Toyota though, as Mike Gascoyne's work will eventually pay off. I just hope he stays at Williams because of the BMW connection. [/B][/QUOTE]
$60 million says he goes to Toyota.
Hear we go again.
1. MS
2. RB
3. JPM
Does Montoya always look like he is sitting on the crapper? He had a chance at pole but blew it on the final corner.:rolleyes:
[B]It will most likely be Ralf and Webber at Williams. Dixon will end up going to Toyota as he has been a protege of theirs for awhile. Ralf might be wise to go to Toyota though, as Mike Gascoyne's work will eventually pay off. I just hope he stays at Williams because of the BMW connection. [/B][/QUOTE]
$60 million says he goes to Toyota.
Hear we go again.
1. MS
2. RB
3. JPM
Does Montoya always look like he is sitting on the crapper? He had a chance at pole but blew it on the final corner.:rolleyes:
| erich_sc | 04-03-2004 10:56 AM |
Did anybody else fail to properly record it this morning? Did I just screw up? Or was the qualifying not aired?
| erich_sc | 04-03-2004 10:58 AM |
Oh damnit! My tv/vcr was unplugged so it lost it's clock settings! Didn't even think of that! Son of a ...
| rupertberr | 04-03-2004 11:15 AM |
It was on. Both Schumacher and Barichello said that their cars aren't suited for this track and both claimed to have poor runs that's why they are only on the FRONT ROW again.:(
Meanwhile my man Alonso out qualified BOTH Minardis. Very impressive. If he got rid of that hair under his lip he might do even better. My preseason pick for WC, Kimi, will start last. I bet JPM can't wait to join McLaren.:rolleyes:
Meanwhile my man Alonso out qualified BOTH Minardis. Very impressive. If he got rid of that hair under his lip he might do even better. My preseason pick for WC, Kimi, will start last. I bet JPM can't wait to join McLaren.:rolleyes:
| BillT | 04-03-2004 12:33 PM |
I too was a bit surprised at the all Ferrari front row given the Williams times in the first qualifying and the two bobbles MS had in his qualifying lap in section 1 and 2 (granted Montoya really messed up that last turn in his qualifying run).
I have no idea what Alonso was up to - he had a terrible qualifying run (pretty much the antithesis of Webber's qualifying run from Australia). Given Alsonso's starting prowess, I'm sure he'll be able to hold off those Minardi's going into turn 1 :)
It should be a good race - I'm expecting alot of DNF's due to cars getting to the dirty part of track and sliding right off. Anyone want to put up an over/under on how many laps Kimi will get out of his car?
I have no idea what Alonso was up to - he had a terrible qualifying run (pretty much the antithesis of Webber's qualifying run from Australia). Given Alsonso's starting prowess, I'm sure he'll be able to hold off those Minardi's going into turn 1 :)
It should be a good race - I'm expecting alot of DNF's due to cars getting to the dirty part of track and sliding right off. Anyone want to put up an over/under on how many laps Kimi will get out of his car?
| A_Train | 04-03-2004 12:42 PM |
Alonso but have been out partying with the sheiks and their harems late last night, that was a lap to forget
| rupertberr | 04-03-2004 01:21 PM |
Renault claims Alonso had a brake problem.
[url]http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=26668&s=5[/url]
[url]http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=26668&s=5[/url]
| gtguy | 04-03-2004 06:02 PM |
I think that this qualifying showed how good the Ferraris really are. Schumacher had moments, but the car is so smooth and stable, and has such mechanical grip and engine power, that bad moments aren't that costly.
Conversely, the Williams really looked a handful to drive, more on the edge than the Ferrari, to get the same speed. This, I think, is why Montoya and R. Schumacher lost time in the third sector. That's where you can really tell what's going on with a car and how well it is working. M. Schumacher was .6 up on everybody else in that final sector. That's significant.
Meanwhile, BAR! And Sato outqualified Button. That team really is on the move. This year, we should start to see signs, and by next year, they should be a force to be reckoned with. Impressive.
Kevin
Conversely, the Williams really looked a handful to drive, more on the edge than the Ferrari, to get the same speed. This, I think, is why Montoya and R. Schumacher lost time in the third sector. That's where you can really tell what's going on with a car and how well it is working. M. Schumacher was .6 up on everybody else in that final sector. That's significant.
Meanwhile, BAR! And Sato outqualified Button. That team really is on the move. This year, we should start to see signs, and by next year, they should be a force to be reckoned with. Impressive.
Kevin
| Lafora | 04-03-2004 07:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BillT [/i]
[B]I too was a bit surprised at the all Ferrari front row given the Williams times in the first qualifying and the two bobbles MS had in his qualifying lap in section 1 and 2 (granted Montoya really messed up that last turn in his qualifying run).
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Montoya had a slower trap speed crossing sector 2.
so it would've been a tall order to make up for the lost time in sector 3 already.
RS was a whole 10 clicks slower than micheal @ the same point
[B]I too was a bit surprised at the all Ferrari front row given the Williams times in the first qualifying and the two bobbles MS had in his qualifying lap in section 1 and 2 (granted Montoya really messed up that last turn in his qualifying run).
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Montoya had a slower trap speed crossing sector 2.
so it would've been a tall order to make up for the lost time in sector 3 already.
RS was a whole 10 clicks slower than micheal @ the same point
| TV3WRX | 04-03-2004 08:52 PM |
I dunno, but I am more excited for this race than I have been in a long time. The Ferrari's chassis superiority does really show in the first sector especially. But, I think the Williams is really good overall on this track too, even if it looked like a handful. Both JPM and Ralf made big big qualifying mistakes in sector three, from pushing a bit too hard (in the ONE attempt to make a perfect lap), but until then they were real quick. I think this is a driver's course and over the race distance it will be an equalizer to some degree; everyone will make mistakes at some point or another, and tire wear could be HELL. We might be real surprised at the outcome of this one. BAR could well be a big factor too. I think their motor is really there now, even if the chassis is still only 85%...a good enough combo for Button/Sato to go nuts with on sectors 2 and 3 lap after lap.
Anyway, I'm hoping for a more exciting race than we have seen in a while.
Anyway, I'm hoping for a more exciting race than we have seen in a while.
| TV3WRX | 04-04-2004 08:04 AM |
Well, got up at 3 AM to watch.....now 1/3 of the way thru....not much racing going on up front. Guess I was way wrong......wishful thinking.
| stumpz | 04-04-2004 08:38 AM |
:furious: with myself. I forgot to set the clocks forward.... woke up 1hr into the race.
Suresh
Suresh
| boothwrx | 04-04-2004 10:39 AM |
My new F1 rules.
Ferrari must:
1. Pit every 10 laps.
2.Start in the back of the pack an be 1 lap down to the rest of the field.
3. Run rain tires in the dry/Dry tires in the rain.
That might make F1 more competitive for the rest of the teams.
I am a big Ferrari Fan, but this is kind of like the 917/30 Porsches in the Can-AM series.
Ferrari must:
1. Pit every 10 laps.
2.Start in the back of the pack an be 1 lap down to the rest of the field.
3. Run rain tires in the dry/Dry tires in the rain.
That might make F1 more competitive for the rest of the teams.
I am a big Ferrari Fan, but this is kind of like the 917/30 Porsches in the Can-AM series.
| HoRo1 | 04-04-2004 11:05 AM |
Statistics
There are 15 races left.
Schumacher has 3 wins from 3 starts
Schumacher has 73 career victories (I think)
It is not unreasonable to assume that Schumacher will win most of the 15 remaining races. I doubt that even he can win them all - although it seems obvious that Ferrari's major rivals are struggling right now. The question now becomes whether Schumacher can reach 100 career victories by the end of his career. It is possible. I think that he is signed until the end of '06. That would be 27 victories from the next 51 starts. He has 73 wins from 197 starts (198 entries).
There are 15 races left.
Schumacher has 3 wins from 3 starts
Schumacher has 73 career victories (I think)
It is not unreasonable to assume that Schumacher will win most of the 15 remaining races. I doubt that even he can win them all - although it seems obvious that Ferrari's major rivals are struggling right now. The question now becomes whether Schumacher can reach 100 career victories by the end of his career. It is possible. I think that he is signed until the end of '06. That would be 27 victories from the next 51 starts. He has 73 wins from 197 starts (198 entries).
| Lafora | 04-04-2004 12:51 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by boothwrx [/i]
[B]My new F1 rules.
Ferrari must:
1. Pit every 10 laps.
2.Start in the back of the pack an be 1 lap down to the rest of the field.
3. Run rain tires in the dry/Dry tires in the rain.
That might make F1 more competitive for the rest of the teams.
I am a big Ferrari Fan, but this is kind of like the 917/30 Porsches in the Can-AM series. [/B][/QUOTE]
how bout make new F1 rules that mandate mclaren and williams to pull their heads out of their ass and step up to the plate for once. :rolleyes:
[B]My new F1 rules.
Ferrari must:
1. Pit every 10 laps.
2.Start in the back of the pack an be 1 lap down to the rest of the field.
3. Run rain tires in the dry/Dry tires in the rain.
That might make F1 more competitive for the rest of the teams.
I am a big Ferrari Fan, but this is kind of like the 917/30 Porsches in the Can-AM series. [/B][/QUOTE]
how bout make new F1 rules that mandate mclaren and williams to pull their heads out of their ass and step up to the plate for once. :rolleyes:
| Bonzo | 04-04-2004 12:56 PM |
It would be interesting if ferrari supplied the complete field with cars. A spec F1 series. Or a field of McLarens or... :lol:
One other way to bring competetive spark back into F1 is have Schuey do what Valetino Rossi did and leave the Honda juggernaut and ride the second rate Yamaha to silence his critics saying it's all about the ride and not the rider. We will find that out next weekend in Welkom, RSA. I have a strong feeling he will have his critics eating crow.
Would Schuey ever have the gumption to do this?
One other way to bring competetive spark back into F1 is have Schuey do what Valetino Rossi did and leave the Honda juggernaut and ride the second rate Yamaha to silence his critics saying it's all about the ride and not the rider. We will find that out next weekend in Welkom, RSA. I have a strong feeling he will have his critics eating crow.
Would Schuey ever have the gumption to do this?
| Alleggerita | 04-04-2004 01:30 PM |
The past few years Ferraris old way of doing everything in-house may finally be paying off in that it probably allows them to integrate the wide variety of different technologies in a modern F1 car that all interact with each other more efficiently than some of the other teams that have managment in one place, engine builder in another and chassis design yet somewhere else. Yes, and Schuhmacher is definitely part and parcel of Ferrari development
Certainly at this point in time there are some teams that are spending more money and have way less to show regarding results. After the cars from Modena were a complete bust for many years and just beautiful to look at, they do have the performance to match this time around.
Certainly at this point in time there are some teams that are spending more money and have way less to show regarding results. After the cars from Modena were a complete bust for many years and just beautiful to look at, they do have the performance to match this time around.
| Lafora | 04-04-2004 01:55 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]It would be interesting if ferrari supplied the complete field with cars. A spec F1 series. Or a field of McLarens or... :lol:
One other way to bring competetive spark back into F1 is have Schuey do what Valetino Rossi did and leave the Honda juggernaut and ride the second rate Yamaha to silence his critics saying it's all about the ride and not the rider. We will find that out next weekend in Welkom, RSA. I have a strong feeling he will have his critics eating crow.
Would Schuey ever have the gumption to do this? [/B][/QUOTE]
he already did it once when he left Benetton for Ferrari.
I don't see why he'd do it again since the whole Ferrari team is basically a unit that functions very efficiently at the current moment.
[B]It would be interesting if ferrari supplied the complete field with cars. A spec F1 series. Or a field of McLarens or... :lol:
One other way to bring competetive spark back into F1 is have Schuey do what Valetino Rossi did and leave the Honda juggernaut and ride the second rate Yamaha to silence his critics saying it's all about the ride and not the rider. We will find that out next weekend in Welkom, RSA. I have a strong feeling he will have his critics eating crow.
Would Schuey ever have the gumption to do this? [/B][/QUOTE]
he already did it once when he left Benetton for Ferrari.
I don't see why he'd do it again since the whole Ferrari team is basically a unit that functions very efficiently at the current moment.
| w0rXer | 04-04-2004 02:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lafora [/i]
[B]how bout make new F1 rules that mandate mclaren and williams to pull their heads out of their ass and step up to the plate for once. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
I second this rule!!!
...and finally a little attention for Sato. :) I am interested to see how well Honda willl progress this season.
[B]how bout make new F1 rules that mandate mclaren and williams to pull their heads out of their ass and step up to the plate for once. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
I second this rule!!!
...and finally a little attention for Sato. :) I am interested to see how well Honda willl progress this season.
| wrxinfx | 04-04-2004 02:48 PM |
psychology
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In sport, I always think of the psychology of the teams. In looking at Mclaren's poor showing - I would have to think that nerves have got to be raw after three years of trying to take down Ferrari, and yet, they seem to slip farther backward. It's got to be a real test of their resolve, and perhaps there recent performance is a reflection of some cracks starting to form in their team. Steve Matchett spoke a couple times during the race about how divided they are, and how many different projects they have. I'm sure it's got to be hard to put in a 100% as an engineer, knowing you have that many projects, all in dubious states, and meanwhile the red cars are just cruising to podium after podium.
The oposite must be true for the new kids - Renault and Honda. Steady, marked progress can only build their confidence. It's no worry for them not to beat Ferrari, but just to get up in the 2-3-4 spot has got to be comforting.
If one were to look at this like olympic athletes do and speak of their "peak" and timing it right. I'd say Mclaren are well past their peak, and it will get worse before it gets better. Williams are near peak, only their resolve will send them up or down. Renault and Honda are on their way up nicely. Perhaps timed well for Ferrari's demise in '05?
The oposite must be true for the new kids - Renault and Honda. Steady, marked progress can only build their confidence. It's no worry for them not to beat Ferrari, but just to get up in the 2-3-4 spot has got to be comforting.
If one were to look at this like olympic athletes do and speak of their "peak" and timing it right. I'd say Mclaren are well past their peak, and it will get worse before it gets better. Williams are near peak, only their resolve will send them up or down. Renault and Honda are on their way up nicely. Perhaps timed well for Ferrari's demise in '05?
| NC2.5RS | 04-04-2004 04:04 PM |
Yup, another Ferrari 1-2. Looks like 2002 all over again maybe. Good though, since I love Ferrari and Schumy.
| gtguy | 04-04-2004 07:30 PM |
Once again, things worked out in Ferrari's favor. The lower afternoon temps and cloudy skies meant that Bridgestone's rubber didn't have such a hot weather disadvantage. Unreal.
Also, note that in the first qualifying, the Williams cars ran 1:29s while the Ferraris ran low 1:30s. But, the Ferraris were running that pace all weekend, fuel or not, while the Williams were all over the place, pace-wise. Combine that with simply watching the qualifying laps of Barrichello and Schumacher, then Montoya and Ralf Schumacher, and it was clear that this was going to be a Ferrari waltz.
The Williams had too much suspension movement, and looked to be a lot harder to drive than the Ferrari. You can make that kind of car go fast for a lap or two, but not for the consistently rapid pace necessary to win a race. For the first laps, Schumacher was lapping near qualifying pace, running almost two seconds per lap faster than Montoya, best of the rest. That's an amazing race pace, that even Barrichello couldn't keep up. When you consider that Ferrari was on the same fuel strategy as everyone else, it's clear that the red cars are pretty scary this year. Particularly because they're reliable, to boot.
Hooray for Button, who has really moved into the next rank of drivers, and Sato showed signs of life, as well. R. Schumacher is a prat. There was no way, even had he been able to make the corner, that he left Sato enough space to do much of anything except run into him, which is what Sato did. It cost both of them.
I wonder what Raikkonen and Coulthard are doing differently? DC's cars last, Raikkonen's don't. Sure, DC dropped out of this race, but I don't think the engine grenaded (roasted wieners, anyone?) like Raikkonen's did. McLaren is in serious trouble, particularly when you consider that they will have to scrap the -19, which means that again, they will be building a new car, that doesn't have any benchmarks. Meanwhile, Ferrari will probably be getting it right again. Montoya has to be looking at that McLaren program and wondering what the heck he did.
Williams looks to have the pace every now and again, but they have to make that car easier to drive, and what the heck is up with Renault? Alonso is all over the place. They still look to need more horsepower, too, which will come.
Here's my question: Is everybody going backward, or have Ferrari just moved the bar? Everybody is lapping about three seconds per lap faster this year, at tracks where lap times are known, so everybody is getting more performance. But it appears that Ferrari is just that much better.
Kevin
Also, note that in the first qualifying, the Williams cars ran 1:29s while the Ferraris ran low 1:30s. But, the Ferraris were running that pace all weekend, fuel or not, while the Williams were all over the place, pace-wise. Combine that with simply watching the qualifying laps of Barrichello and Schumacher, then Montoya and Ralf Schumacher, and it was clear that this was going to be a Ferrari waltz.
The Williams had too much suspension movement, and looked to be a lot harder to drive than the Ferrari. You can make that kind of car go fast for a lap or two, but not for the consistently rapid pace necessary to win a race. For the first laps, Schumacher was lapping near qualifying pace, running almost two seconds per lap faster than Montoya, best of the rest. That's an amazing race pace, that even Barrichello couldn't keep up. When you consider that Ferrari was on the same fuel strategy as everyone else, it's clear that the red cars are pretty scary this year. Particularly because they're reliable, to boot.
Hooray for Button, who has really moved into the next rank of drivers, and Sato showed signs of life, as well. R. Schumacher is a prat. There was no way, even had he been able to make the corner, that he left Sato enough space to do much of anything except run into him, which is what Sato did. It cost both of them.
I wonder what Raikkonen and Coulthard are doing differently? DC's cars last, Raikkonen's don't. Sure, DC dropped out of this race, but I don't think the engine grenaded (roasted wieners, anyone?) like Raikkonen's did. McLaren is in serious trouble, particularly when you consider that they will have to scrap the -19, which means that again, they will be building a new car, that doesn't have any benchmarks. Meanwhile, Ferrari will probably be getting it right again. Montoya has to be looking at that McLaren program and wondering what the heck he did.
Williams looks to have the pace every now and again, but they have to make that car easier to drive, and what the heck is up with Renault? Alonso is all over the place. They still look to need more horsepower, too, which will come.
Here's my question: Is everybody going backward, or have Ferrari just moved the bar? Everybody is lapping about three seconds per lap faster this year, at tracks where lap times are known, so everybody is getting more performance. But it appears that Ferrari is just that much better.
Kevin
| erich_sc | 04-04-2004 09:18 PM |
I think part of the problem is that both Williams and McLaren have completely new cars. Clearly both teams had cars that were potential winners last year, and instead of evolve them to the new ruleset like Ferrari did, they scrapped them and developed completely different cars. Why not take what was working another step further? Oh, and McLaren's engines are crap.
| A_Train | 04-04-2004 09:25 PM |
Does anyone know any details about why Ferrari got fined for the pit incident, but Ralf got nothing for the contact with Sato?
| finnRex | 04-04-2004 10:46 PM |
I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. It's going to be a long season for McLaren...(sigh). McLaren frustrates me so badly, because they were SO close last year and this year it seems like they threw everything away with the MP-19. Crying shame to toss a season away(realistically, that's basically what happened this year). How can you give Michael 30 points and try to play catch up with him? You don't.
I really think Ferrari know how to evolve their cars by keeping everything inside the family...err, factory;) Ferrari has definitely set the bar up a few notches, while everyone else is just trying to get up to (Ferrari's) last year's notch. It definitely helps out a lot that they got the best driver ever helping them out with technical feedback and giving them his opinion. Rubinho is not too shabby a driver either, his time will come eventually. But for now, I really believe it's going to be another Ferarri walk-away season like 2002...
Mika
I really think Ferrari know how to evolve their cars by keeping everything inside the family...err, factory;) Ferrari has definitely set the bar up a few notches, while everyone else is just trying to get up to (Ferrari's) last year's notch. It definitely helps out a lot that they got the best driver ever helping them out with technical feedback and giving them his opinion. Rubinho is not too shabby a driver either, his time will come eventually. But for now, I really believe it's going to be another Ferarri walk-away season like 2002...
Mika
| gtguy | 04-04-2004 10:54 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A_Train [/i]
[B]Does anyone know any details about why Ferrari got fined for the pit incident, but Ralf got nothing for the contact with Sato? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, Ferrari released Barrichello from the pit stall early, causing a potentially dangerous situation with Trulli, who was coming down pit lane at that moment.
I think they're still sorting out the Ralf/Sato stuff. I wouldn't expect fines as much as one or both being placed on double secret probation. :lol:
Kevin
[B]Does anyone know any details about why Ferrari got fined for the pit incident, but Ralf got nothing for the contact with Sato? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, Ferrari released Barrichello from the pit stall early, causing a potentially dangerous situation with Trulli, who was coming down pit lane at that moment.
I think they're still sorting out the Ralf/Sato stuff. I wouldn't expect fines as much as one or both being placed on double secret probation. :lol:
Kevin
| gtguy | 04-04-2004 11:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by finnRex [/i]
[B]I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. It's going to be a long season for McLaren...(sigh). McLaren frustrates me so badly, because they were SO close last year and this year it seems like they threw everything away with the MP-19. Crying shame to toss a season away(realistically, that's basically what happened this year). How can you give Michael 30 points and try to play catch up with him? You don't.
I really think Ferrari know how to evolve their cars by keeping everything inside the family...err, factory;) Ferrari has definitely set the bar up a few notches, while everyone else is just trying to get up to (Ferrari's) last year's notch. It definitely helps out a lot that they got the best driver ever helping them out with technical feedback and giving them his opinion. Rubinho is not too shabby a driver either, his time will come eventually. But for now, I really believe it's going to be another Ferarri walk-away season like 2002...
Mika [/B][/QUOTE]
But isn't the MP-19 actually faster than last year's car? Matchett, during the race telecast, said that McLaren should go back to last year's car to salvage this year, but last year's car couldn't even beat last year's Ferrari (which is essentially this year's Sauber).
I just think that this year's Ferrari is one of those cars, like the 2002 car that it has evolved from, that is a stunner. This, coupled with Bridgestone getting its act together, means that the mojo is fully functioning.
Frankly, I think we would have seen something similar had Bridgestone given Ferrari better rubber last season. Perhaps the FIA will make Ferrari run with "penalty weights," similar to what you used to see in Trans-Am racing, and other series. If a driver won, he carried penalty weight. If he won again, he got more weight, until someone else won. Then he lost some weight, etc.
I'm just kidding, but I also wonder if part of what was behind everybody changing their tunes about Ferrari's excellence---Ecclestone, after saying he didn't want another 2002, turned around and said that Ferrari's excellence is just fine and dandy, and well...excellent---has to do with them already knowing that, lap for lap, the F2004 is a world-beater.
Kevin
[B]I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. It's going to be a long season for McLaren...(sigh). McLaren frustrates me so badly, because they were SO close last year and this year it seems like they threw everything away with the MP-19. Crying shame to toss a season away(realistically, that's basically what happened this year). How can you give Michael 30 points and try to play catch up with him? You don't.
I really think Ferrari know how to evolve their cars by keeping everything inside the family...err, factory;) Ferrari has definitely set the bar up a few notches, while everyone else is just trying to get up to (Ferrari's) last year's notch. It definitely helps out a lot that they got the best driver ever helping them out with technical feedback and giving them his opinion. Rubinho is not too shabby a driver either, his time will come eventually. But for now, I really believe it's going to be another Ferarri walk-away season like 2002...
Mika [/B][/QUOTE]
But isn't the MP-19 actually faster than last year's car? Matchett, during the race telecast, said that McLaren should go back to last year's car to salvage this year, but last year's car couldn't even beat last year's Ferrari (which is essentially this year's Sauber).
I just think that this year's Ferrari is one of those cars, like the 2002 car that it has evolved from, that is a stunner. This, coupled with Bridgestone getting its act together, means that the mojo is fully functioning.
Frankly, I think we would have seen something similar had Bridgestone given Ferrari better rubber last season. Perhaps the FIA will make Ferrari run with "penalty weights," similar to what you used to see in Trans-Am racing, and other series. If a driver won, he carried penalty weight. If he won again, he got more weight, until someone else won. Then he lost some weight, etc.
I'm just kidding, but I also wonder if part of what was behind everybody changing their tunes about Ferrari's excellence---Ecclestone, after saying he didn't want another 2002, turned around and said that Ferrari's excellence is just fine and dandy, and well...excellent---has to do with them already knowing that, lap for lap, the F2004 is a world-beater.
Kevin
| totoherbs | 04-04-2004 11:34 PM |
[QUOTE]Matchett, during the race telecast, said that McLaren should go back to last year's car to salvage this year, but last year's car couldn't even beat last year's Ferrari (which is essentially this year's Sauber).[/QUOTE]
I heard that.... I started to laugh my ass off. Maybe because they wont blow up?
[QUOTE]Frankly, I think we would have seen something similar had Bridgestone given Ferrari better rubber last season. Perhaps the FIA will make Ferrari run with "penalty weights," similar to what you used to see in Trans-Am racing, and other series. If a driver won, he carried penalty weight. If he won again, he got more weight, until someone else won. Then he lost some weight, etc. [/QUOTE]
:lol:
I wouldnt put something that lame past FIA.
I heard that.... I started to laugh my ass off. Maybe because they wont blow up?
[QUOTE]Frankly, I think we would have seen something similar had Bridgestone given Ferrari better rubber last season. Perhaps the FIA will make Ferrari run with "penalty weights," similar to what you used to see in Trans-Am racing, and other series. If a driver won, he carried penalty weight. If he won again, he got more weight, until someone else won. Then he lost some weight, etc. [/QUOTE]
:lol:
I wouldnt put something that lame past FIA.
| SolbergWRCfan | 04-05-2004 01:01 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rupertberr [/i]
[B]$60 million says he goes to Toyota.[/B][/QUOTE]
That is �60 Million ($109,659,489.39) over 5 years or �12 million ($21,931,998.30) a year. The rumored amount also includes up to �4 million ($7,310,666.10) a year in performance incentives (which if he drives like he did today, Toyota won't have to worry about paying).
Jon
[B]$60 million says he goes to Toyota.[/B][/QUOTE]
That is �60 Million ($109,659,489.39) over 5 years or �12 million ($21,931,998.30) a year. The rumored amount also includes up to �4 million ($7,310,666.10) a year in performance incentives (which if he drives like he did today, Toyota won't have to worry about paying).
Jon
| meebs | 04-05-2004 01:09 AM |
Webber should go away. He was acting like everyone has magical pillows on their cars that would allow bumpy bumpy. What a strange way to behave...
| OnTheGas | 04-05-2004 05:02 AM |
Ralfie's Wrist Is Slapped
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[QUOTE][i][URL=http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=149529&FS=F1]Ralf given warning for Sato incident[/URL][/i]
Race officials gave Ralf Schumacher a [b]conduct warning[/b] for an incident with Takuma Sato during the Bahrain Grand Prix. Both drivers were called to a stewards' meeting after the race and officials agreed with Sato that Schumacher was at fault.
The pair went head to head at the first corner early in the race, Ralf trying to get past the BAR. Sato claimed the Williams cut across and did not give him enough room, resulting in a collision that sent Ralf's car spinning off the track. Both managed to continue after pit stops.
"The tangle with Ralf Schumacher was disappointing because we should have got through turn two side by side but he just closed the door on me and turned in," said Sato. "After that, I ran wide, damaging the front wing on the kerb and I was forced to do an earlier pitstop."
Schumacher's opinion was somewhat different: "The collision with Sato was an unfortunate race incident, from my point of view, however, he was a bit optimistic in thinking to get back the position he had simply just lost," he commented.
Sato was not the only one Schumacher upset during the course of the race. Later on he also clashed with Sauber's Giancarlo Fisichella. "Ralf Schumacher spun me on lap 31," said the Italian, which added to his eventful day. "Without these problems, especially Ralf, I think we could have challenged for a point today."[/QUOTE]
Race officials gave Ralf Schumacher a [b]conduct warning[/b] for an incident with Takuma Sato during the Bahrain Grand Prix. Both drivers were called to a stewards' meeting after the race and officials agreed with Sato that Schumacher was at fault.
The pair went head to head at the first corner early in the race, Ralf trying to get past the BAR. Sato claimed the Williams cut across and did not give him enough room, resulting in a collision that sent Ralf's car spinning off the track. Both managed to continue after pit stops.
"The tangle with Ralf Schumacher was disappointing because we should have got through turn two side by side but he just closed the door on me and turned in," said Sato. "After that, I ran wide, damaging the front wing on the kerb and I was forced to do an earlier pitstop."
Schumacher's opinion was somewhat different: "The collision with Sato was an unfortunate race incident, from my point of view, however, he was a bit optimistic in thinking to get back the position he had simply just lost," he commented.
Sato was not the only one Schumacher upset during the course of the race. Later on he also clashed with Sauber's Giancarlo Fisichella. "Ralf Schumacher spun me on lap 31," said the Italian, which added to his eventful day. "Without these problems, especially Ralf, I think we could have challenged for a point today."[/QUOTE]
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