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Headlight Adjustment Switch part 1

WRXnFX 01-08-2002 02:52 AM

Headlight Adjustment Switch
 
Can you get the part number for the headlight adjustment switch and can you suggest a vendor who can get it?
Imprezer 01-08-2002 02:59 AM

Contact go go go. He got me one.

-Alex
WRXnFX 01-08-2002 03:04 AM

His i-Club member name is "go go go"? How much did it cost?
lakepop 01-08-2002 07:26 AM

Try going to members list..look up go-go-go and send him an E-mail. I'm sure he will tell you what the current price is.
Hope this helps...:) ;)
WRXnFX 01-08-2002 07:26 AM

Yup, "go go go" under the search hooked me up. I PM'd him. I'll post the price if Alex doesn't beat me to it.
TaiChih 01-08-2002 12:19 PM

$45. and I can get it here in two weeks;). gimme a PM
JPatrick 01-08-2002 02:10 PM

Another question...
 
Anybody know of other factory or aftermarket console switches that will exactly fit in this size location? I am looking for a simple rocker on/off for the laser jammer and would like to mount either in the same location here or in the center console above the powered mirror controls?

Thanks!
TaiChih 01-08-2002 02:43 PM

You can do what I did and get a simple rocker switch from Radio Shack and drill the stock blanks to make it fit.;)
JPatrick 01-08-2002 02:49 PM

True, true... and it did get a circular one with the jammer that might fit in the cover but thought I could disquise it better...

Guess I was really looking for a Cruise or Fog light look alike that would fit that size...

Thanks for the advice.

Jay
MarkBNX 01-08-2002 06:41 PM

Just wondering -- what does this switch control?
au112 01-08-2002 09:40 PM

I believe this switch control the height of the adjustable HID headlight on JDM STI.
TaiChih 01-09-2002 12:49 AM

You are correct on that;) and just use the provided switch without labelling it.
WRXnFX 01-09-2002 06:37 PM

Go Go Go is selling the switch for $40. I'm using them for my Morettes. Is this possible?
Peaty 01-09-2002 08:51 PM

You could get an OEM Fog Lamp Switch PN 83001FA051 From Sugar in the vendor section around 25 bucks. It will fit anywhere there is a blank or one of those coin holder things.
Yotsuya 01-10-2002 03:17 PM

That switch is a headlight leveler, required in Europe (and maybe Japan) to allow you to adjust your ligths so you don't blind oncoming traffic. They were on all the cars I've rented in Europe; lots of their roads are so narrow you don't want to be affecting oncoming traffic's view like all those overwatted blue-bulbed boneheads Stateside.

HIDs overseas actually require *automatic* leverers to keep the blinding from happening. The manual ones are cute, but I'm sure they would confuse the heck out of most drivers.

As for a switch, I thought of using a blank spot to mount a Hella switch but the face of the blank is slightly rounded so it's better to try and get an extra Subaru switch and wire it up yourself.

And when you've done that, post instructions so I can do the same.
Leonardo 01-10-2002 03:40 PM

So, what good is the switch without the harness?

Leo
WRXnFX 01-10-2002 09:39 PM

You wire it in to the headlight adjuster motor on your Morrete's, JDM STi lights or any other headlight that has an adjustment motor.
Snappy 01-10-2002 10:21 PM

Has anyone figured out the wiring for the switch? Is there a separate control box required? Are the connectors similar to anything else on the car, (harvestable from a junkyard US subie wiring harness, for example?)
TaiChih 01-10-2002 10:50 PM

not that I saw. the harness has four male wire tabs from the back.
HIHO 01-11-2002 01:06 AM

TaiChih I will want one in a couple of weeks. I need to make sure that my Morretes (shipping as we speak) have a self leveling motor or an adjusting motor.
WRXnFX 01-11-2002 03:33 AM

I'll be installing my Morettes this weekend. I'll let you know if they are auto-leveling or not. I think they are. The switch is cool enough too fill one of the many blank spots in my interior.
daverup 01-11-2002 06:40 AM

The switch won't control the lights without some kind of control box. There is a digital circuit in the aiming motor looking for some kind of signal from the box. The switch is just a dumb four position selector.
Nobody here has ever figured out how to get a control box as far as I can tell.
Madrallyskillz 01-11-2002 08:21 AM

anyone got a euro shop manual?
 
Or call a UK Subie dealer, tell them you are importing the car and adding the leveler, and need to know what parts you need.

The controller should be fairly simple, I just hope it is stand alone and not part of the ECU or something.

~cheers
WRXnFX 01-11-2002 08:25 AM

Who's got connections? Hook us up with some info!
alfriedesq 04-04-2002 12:02 AM

BUMP! Anyone figure this out yet ???

Looks like i need some sort of leveling controler and a wiring harness - anyone have any clue yet ???????
adamsrs 04-04-2002 12:26 AM

Do they make this for the GC8 at all?
adamsrs
TerenceT 04-04-2002 02:15 PM

vivid has something for UK 300 for $99

should be harness + switch, apparently motor is on the head lamp

read someone has the motor for moretts too, btw, it's just a servo, not really a motor as far as i know
tnmn28 04-04-2002 09:09 PM

Nope.

For $99.00 you get a switch and wiring diagram. No harness!

They don't know where to get a harness, not even the connectors.

BTW, the switch I received has NISSAN stamped on it!

I just installed my UK300. I spliced in the harness from
Rally Performance. I still want to hook up the leveling switch
if possible. But not holding my breath.
Vineet Singh 04-04-2002 09:28 PM

Even the door switches have Nissan molded into them :)
WRXnFX 04-05-2002 08:00 AM

Yup, the switch has Nissan stamped on it. Go Go Go sent me the schemtic for the JDM HID lights and it shows the control box in the lights. I'm just going to wire it up so it illuminates. Wish it could work for real.

Winslow
TerenceT 04-05-2002 03:31 PM

anyone has a picture of the said switch?

wiring shouldn't be that hard if you arm yourself with a test light?

my second question is does the levelor comes with the light or the 99 buck package? or something extra?
dwx 04-05-2002 04:28 PM

I've seen a schematic for the leveling motors with the black box so to speak. There has to be some logic that it is performing in order to regulate the voltages going to the aiming motors. It would be helpful to have a UK person basically tap into the wires and measure the values. It looks like the switch comes with the light, I should have one shortly. It's a 4 position switch and has 2 wires coming out of it that run into the box, that box then does something and outputs to the levelling motors, but what I don't know. It'd be nice to find out exactly what the black box part is.

This is the URL to the picture, it's rather large.

[URL=http://www.kr4d.com/~phil/pics/leveling.jpg]Click here[/URL]
tnmn28 04-05-2002 05:10 PM

Okay this is what I have. Kind of long response.

I purchased the UK300 lights from Wim in the UK.
I had to wait 3 weeks, because his company or
his supplier has a back log building these units.

The leveling motor has a small (maybe
0.5" x 1.5") circuit board in series with the connector.
I don't know what is on the circuit
board since it is covered by black shrink tubing.

The leveling motor connector is brown and comes
a matching connector. For UK cars you need to
remove the stock connector and replace it with
the brown one. The turn signal and DRL bulb is
connected by the stock grey connector.

From Rally Performance, I purchased the Morette
plug and play harness. It has the 9007 male plug,
and the H1 female plug (or is it H3). I removed
the UK300 black plug and hardwired it to the
RP harness, removeing the H1 female plug.

I purchased the leveling switch from Vivid Racing.
For $99.00 you get the switch and the wiring
diagram as posted by dwx. I believe it is a scan
of the same sheet. You don't get any wires with
the switch. The four pins of the switch require
some sort of plug or you could cut away the plastic
if you want to solder. From the wiring diagram,
I don't see a 'black box'. I have not confirmed
if the USDM WRX have the required fuse/relay.

Finally, I emailed my seller about getting part
numbers for the connector plug or wiring harness.
He has neither, but is supposedly working on a
harness. But won't be available for some time.

So I just installed the headlamps, taped off the
leveler motor connectors for now.

P.S. Anyone installed these have any problems.
My issue is the trim on the right and left side
of the grill no longer follow the lines of the
hood. Instead they look pushed in. If I remove
the inside attachment pin thingys, they look better.

Again sorry for the long post.

Anthony
N10S 04-07-2002 12:54 AM

My UK300 leveling switch experience so far
 
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by tnmn28 [/i]
[B]Okay this is what I have. Kind of long response.

I purchased the UK300 lights from Wim in the UK.
I had to wait 3 weeks, because his company or
his supplier has a back log building these units.

The leveling motor has a small (maybe
0.5" x 1.5") circuit board in series with the connector.
I don't know what is on the circuit
board since it is covered by black shrink tubing.

The leveling motor connector is brown and comes
a matching connector. For UK cars you need to
remove the stock connector and replace it with
the brown one. The turn signal and DRL bulb is
connected by the stock grey connector.

From Rally Performance, I purchased the Morette
plug and play harness. It has the 9007 male plug,
and the H1 female plug (or is it H3). I removed
the UK300 black plug and hardwired it to the
RP harness, removeing the H1 female plug.

I purchased the leveling switch from Vivid Racing.
For $99.00 you get the switch and the wiring
diagram as posted by dwx. I believe it is a scan
of the same sheet. You don't get any wires with
the switch. The four pins of the switch require
some sort of plug or you could cut away the plastic
if you want to solder. From the wiring diagram,
I don't see a 'black box'. I have not confirmed
if the USDM WRX have the required fuse/relay.

Finally, I emailed my seller about getting part
numbers for the connector plug or wiring harness.
He has neither, but is supposedly working on a
harness. But won't be available for some time.

So I just installed the headlamps, taped off the
leveler motor connectors for now.

P.S. Anyone installed these have any problems.
My issue is the trim on the right and left side
of the grill no longer follow the lines of the
hood. Instead they look pushed in. If I remove
the inside attachment pin thingys, they look better.

Again sorry for the long post.

Anthony [/B][/QUOTE]

First let me say that, after installing my Uk300 headlights and re-installing my one-piece Sti grill, only the outer plastic push pins will fit. The grill is well secured by the other press-in bayonets so this shouldn't be a big deal.So you are not alone with this issue, misery loves company right?

Wim Wellinghoff, who is a UK source for the leveling switch, recently replied to an e-mail I sent inquiring on the harness, switch and other components needed to make the leveler switch work.
The feedback I received from Wim (promptly I might say!)were that he could indeed provide the switch w/wiring diagram but currently could not provide any wiring harness or four-pin connectors for the switch. As to the need for a "smart" controller box, the response was that this was not a component required to make the leveling switch work. Basically you need the brown plug adapters (also pins to insert into the brown plugs in my case)which come with the UK300s to tie into the leveling motors, wire to build the actual harness with,a four pin female connector that will fit the switch, and the wiring diagram to know which pins of the switch to tie into and also to provide reference to the relay/power connection point, illumination circuits, and grounding points.

The only major obstacle that I can see at this point is the recessed four pin connection on the back of the switch itself. The construction of the surrounding plastic around the four small pins is extremely tight and probably cannot be easily modified by just soldering on wires. Finding some kind of connector that can be modified to fit the switch seems to be the only logical solution, although I was also thinking about the wire jumpers that are sometimes used for testing I/C board components which may be able to be used.

Hopefully he won't mind me mentioning this but i-club member cmaj7 has been an extremely excellent resource regarding the leveling switch, wiring etc..... . I know that he continues to work on finding a four pin connector solution, and also plans on a full DIY at some point.I guess the point is that cmaj7 seems to be as close to a resident expert on this mod as anyone and I wanted to give him credit for that as well as thank him for the info he has provided.

Jeff
Arnie 04-07-2002 03:48 PM

I look forward to some info as I have e-Code headlamps in my 2000RS with the levelling motors as well as a switch but after fiddling with alligator clips and a test lamp I could not get them to work. I probably did not fiddle enough or correctly. A wiring diagram I have seen also does not indicate a "black box" but who knows. I would love to get this to work as it would make HID's more convenient with this headlamp style as you can adjust the light height to get a "high beam".

Keep pluggin' away folks. Let's get this working.
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:43 PM

just got the switch today
 
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THE switch
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:44 PM

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the back of the switch

it's a 4 pin connector
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:46 PM

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too much time on my hands
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:48 PM

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it is just a simple board
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:50 PM

last one
 
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be careful, there is a spring in the back that pushes a metal strip for the contact points
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 04:56 PM

help with wiring connectors
 
the US WRX does not come stock with the wiring for the headlight leveler switch.

if any vendors outside the USA can help with sharing info on how to get the 4 pin connector and 3 pin connector on the headlamp, you have some anxious customers.

thanks.
chuck
dwx 04-08-2002 05:20 PM

I don't have a problem with the headlight connector since the orciari lights I have came with their own connectors and harness. (You chop off the stock levelling connectors and put these on). But it would be helpful (or necessary) to get that 4-pin connector for the switch. Soldering something in there doesn't look like much fun.
Rocky WRX 04-08-2002 05:22 PM

Nice pics Chuck!

Are you handy with an ohmmeter? It's obvious that there is a common switch pole at the bottom, with 4 selectable pads on the top. What's not clear is which pads connect to which pins on the connector. If you could come up with a schematic, for the switch positions, we could use the wiring diagram dwx linked earlier, to develop a solution.

I just ordered one of these switches from another i-Clubber, but it won't get here for several weeks. I am absolutely confident I can develop a solution once I have a switch in hand. Would you be interested selling me your switch, if I sell you mine for the same cost when it arrives? :D I'd post a full tutorial when I get it worked out.
ChuckCheeze 04-08-2002 05:33 PM

it came with a wiring diagram, so i am pretty sure i can get it to work.

what i really want is the connectors. it would make life very simple. i think i am going to radio shack to see what kind of connector i can make up.
WRXnFX 04-08-2002 06:32 PM

I have a different switch p/n 83011FE010. It has much larger male terminals that are .110". These terminals can be found at any Radio Shack. I did use a multimeter to figure out which pins go to what position but of course I have a different set of pins. If anyone needs this info let me know.

Winslow
Rocky WRX 04-08-2002 08:42 PM

Odd that there's two different versions of the switch. Wonder why that is...

Another question I have is about the connectors on the headlight housings. My STi LHD headlights each have a level switch connector with 6 pins, arranged in a 2x3 pattern. The connectors are roughly square, with rounded edges. There are two motors in each headlight. Does that sound similar to the JDM RHD headlights? The wiring diagram posted by dwx above, shows only 3 wires per headlight, so I've got a few extra wires to figure out. Anybody have a clue?
N10S 04-08-2002 09:16 PM

Several sets of 4 pin connectors
 
During my hunt for connectors I came across a solution for wiring off of the four pin male connector on the leveler switch. The female connectors are actually 2 pin units that fit snugly side by side in the recessed housing. The connectors each have "5-6 wire tails already built in for splicing to a main wiring harness that you will have to build. I bought a few extras so if anyone is interested pm me.

Jeff
Arnie 04-08-2002 11:22 PM

WRXnFX1974 - I can't find my box for my switch so I don't know my part number but is your's the horizontally mounted version for the GC8? I would love to have any info you have on the switch. My one concern is that you need power to route to the headlamp motor, do you have an idea where it hooks up in the whole chain?

This horizonatal switch was for the GC8 bodystyle and mounted in the center console above the venticaltion controls. The vertical switch as pictured is for the body style GDA's , etc.
WRXnFX 04-10-2002 03:13 AM

My switch is for the WRX. This switch has six terminals on the connector. Do you still want the info?

Winslow
Rocky WRX 04-10-2002 07:34 AM

Winslow,
Sounds like your switch is a better match for my 6-pin STi headlights than the 3-pin units shown in dwx's wiring diagram. Could you post what you've learned about its wiring?
GoodFinder 04-10-2002 07:43 AM

Keep us posted. I have the UK300 lights on my WRX and I am eager to get this done. Thanks for the knowledge sharing.

GoodFinder :)
Arnie 04-10-2002 10:03 PM

Winslow - please post here or email me your findings. You can never have enough info. thanks.
WRXnFX 04-16-2002 02:46 AM

Sorry, I took so long to reply but here is the schematic.
Winslow
WRXnFX 04-16-2002 03:09 AM

Here is what the pins look like. Sorry, for the poor picture quality. This isn't the horizontally mounted switch.

Winslow
WRXnFX 04-17-2002 06:18 AM

bump
Rocky WRX 04-17-2002 09:31 AM

Winslow, thanks for posting the diagram and connector pic. This looks like enough info so that, with a little connector probing, will produce a complete solution. I have just a few followup questions.

It looks like the two pins in the leftmost column in the connector are plastic (i.e. dummies). This would make sense with the wiring diagram, which shows only 6 wires to the switch. Can you confirm?

Also you mentioned earlier that you had tested the switch pins with an ohmmeter. I'm guessing that each switch position grounds one of the 4 signal wires to the headlights. Can you provide any clues as to which switch position grounds which wire? IOW, what is the order of wires that, when each is grounded in sequence, aims the headlight from highest to lowest?

With the connector positioned as shown in the pic (facing the pins, key on the bottom), it looks to me like the pins are numbered top left=1, top right=4, then bottom left=5, bottom right=8. That would seem to jive with the diagram, if pins 1 and 5 are dummies. Can you confirm whether the pins on the headlight connector follow the same scheme?
TIA
Jerry Hong 04-23-2002 10:00 AM

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Hi Guys,

I don't have much info to share with you about the UK stuff.. But I have some JDM pictures to share with you.
the first pi. is of the back of the JDM Hid housing. circled in red is the motor and the harness
Jerry Hong 04-23-2002 10:01 AM

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this picture is of the back of the switch, and the wiring harness
Jerry Hong 04-23-2002 10:02 AM

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This is a better picture of the harness
Obscure411 04-24-2002 10:34 AM

Wow. This is a wealth of information.

So has anyone :

1. Determined what the actual numbering order of the connectors on both switches is? (i.e. which is pin #1 etc.)

2. Found generic plugs to fit the switch and motor connectors?

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