| Rocky WRX | 04-24-2002 10:45 AM |
Jerry, thanks for the great pics. They answer a lot of questions.
You can figure out the pin order scheme of the switch by matching the colors of the wires in the switch pic to the colors called out in the schematic.
Still not sure about the pins on the headlamp connector, but my first guess would be that they follow a similar scheme. IIRC, the shop manual gives a general pin ordering convention, but I haven't looked at it in a while.
Still searching for a source on the connectors, but it should be possible to cobble something together that works, with a trip to Radio Shack and a little deft soldering. ;)
You can figure out the pin order scheme of the switch by matching the colors of the wires in the switch pic to the colors called out in the schematic.
Still not sure about the pins on the headlamp connector, but my first guess would be that they follow a similar scheme. IIRC, the shop manual gives a general pin ordering convention, but I haven't looked at it in a while.
Still searching for a source on the connectors, but it should be possible to cobble something together that works, with a trip to Radio Shack and a little deft soldering. ;)
| Obscure411 | 04-24-2002 11:07 AM |
Yeah, I gotta find a better Radio Shack near me :)
| wRx14pSi | 04-26-2002 05:51 PM |
bump?!
| TerenceT | 04-28-2002 03:55 AM |
my morettes comes with 3 pin conector at the leveling motor
should i use the subaru 4 pin switch or the 6 pin then?
should i use the subaru 4 pin switch or the 6 pin then?
| ChuckCheeze | 04-29-2002 06:25 PM |
i got the uk300 (3pin) also. from the wiring diagram, it uses the 4 pin switch. i havent wired anything yet, so i can say if it works or not.
| wRx14pSi | 04-29-2002 09:45 PM |
hey guys just picked up the JDM HIDs.. got the switch..
cant figure out how to wire the autolevling. .. some please help
cant figure out how to wire the autolevling. .. some please help
| wRx14pSi | 04-30-2002 10:06 PM |
bump//... someone please help me
| Rocky WRX | 04-30-2002 10:18 PM |
You will need to fabricate a harness of wires to connect the switch, headlights, and power/ground, using the schematic that Winslow posted.
My leveling switch should arrive in another week or so. I will post specific instructions after I install it, if someone else hasn't done so by then.
My leveling switch should arrive in another week or so. I will post specific instructions after I install it, if someone else hasn't done so by then.
| GoodFinder | 04-30-2002 10:33 PM |
Rocky WRX,
That will be greatly appreciated.
GoodFinder :)
That will be greatly appreciated.
GoodFinder :)
| BlueWRXagon | 05-02-2002 06:21 PM |
Alright, sorry guys I'm a rookie...so if you pros could bear with me I would appreciate it. The leveling kit would be great, but looks way too complicated for me. At this point, I'd be content with just wiring my lights up in general...they're RHD JDMs, and I have an aftermarket HID kit (Senkos) and I'm having a little difficulty understanding what needs to go where. If you're interested in helping me out (PLEASE...) read on...
I'm just not quite sure about what wires need to be spliced where...
1) I'm assuming that the stock headlight wire (a 9007 plug) needs to be spliced into the H1 headlight of the JDM headlights.
2) The turn signal of the stock headlight needs to be wired into the turn signal of the JDM, correct?
3) But where does the high beams of the JDM headlights (9005 plug) get power from? Do I splice this from the wire for the stock headlights too? Will this then cut out my headlights when using high beams like it does now?
4) And then the HID kit...are there supposed to be two wires with metal ends that are supposed to sit within the headlight housing? Are these the igniters? (The two wires with metal ends and the power wires leading to the bulb all branch off from a harness...)
5) Also, how do I go about adjusting the headlights (if they ever get installed?).
Any help would be appreciated...REAL lost here and would GREATLY appreciate any help and advice...
dumb ROOKIE
I'm just not quite sure about what wires need to be spliced where...
1) I'm assuming that the stock headlight wire (a 9007 plug) needs to be spliced into the H1 headlight of the JDM headlights.
2) The turn signal of the stock headlight needs to be wired into the turn signal of the JDM, correct?
3) But where does the high beams of the JDM headlights (9005 plug) get power from? Do I splice this from the wire for the stock headlights too? Will this then cut out my headlights when using high beams like it does now?
4) And then the HID kit...are there supposed to be two wires with metal ends that are supposed to sit within the headlight housing? Are these the igniters? (The two wires with metal ends and the power wires leading to the bulb all branch off from a harness...)
5) Also, how do I go about adjusting the headlights (if they ever get installed?).
Any help would be appreciated...REAL lost here and would GREATLY appreciate any help and advice...
dumb ROOKIE
| TerenceT | 05-02-2002 07:11 PM |
guess what i found :D
[url]http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2002/qx4/colour/qx4-03.jpg[/url]
this is off a Qx 4
figure since i am probably goign to run my own harness, mind as well use a nicer swith :D
same make, should be same size and a lot less then how much the subaru goes for
will disect it when i get it
[url]http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2002/qx4/colour/qx4-03.jpg[/url]
this is off a Qx 4
figure since i am probably goign to run my own harness, mind as well use a nicer swith :D
same make, should be same size and a lot less then how much the subaru goes for
will disect it when i get it
| TerenceT | 05-02-2002 07:19 PM |
blue wrxwagon
my advise, sell your head lights, get something that's LHD
well i am not sure where you are but it sounds like you car is LHD
your head lights are meant to be used on the otherside of the road, i'll be really piss if you come up against me with HID, casting your head lights onto my side
#3, from looking at my morettes harness, it looks like the high beam draws power directly from the battery.
my advise, sell your head lights, get something that's LHD
well i am not sure where you are but it sounds like you car is LHD
your head lights are meant to be used on the otherside of the road, i'll be really piss if you come up against me with HID, casting your head lights onto my side
#3, from looking at my morettes harness, it looks like the high beam draws power directly from the battery.
| westy66 | 05-21-2002 12:50 PM |
bump.... any progress? :)
| WRXnFX | 05-31-2002 06:11 PM |
I'm guessing that on the JDM headlights the controller has different resistance values for each position. Can someone verify the values of each position or do some testing with a multimeter?
Winslow
Winslow
| Rocky WRX | 05-31-2002 10:43 PM |
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OK, this isn't rocket science, but it can get a little confusing with all the wires. I added some comments to a pic of the switch socket from earlier in the thread. The switch has 6 active pins. Pins 1 and 5 are plastic dummies. Depending on the position of the switch, one of pins 3,4,5 or 6 is connected directly to pin2, which is supposed to be supplied with +12V from a wire that is powered when the lights are switched on. Pin 8 is ground. The knob on the switch has 4 positions, numbered 0, 1, 2 and 3.
| Rocky WRX | 05-31-2002 10:48 PM |
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If you examine the wiring diagram posted earlier in this thread, you can figure out which pin on the back of the switch needs to connect to which pin on the back of the headlight. After examining the diagram myself, here is what I concluded. The pins are numbered in the same order as the ones in the back of the switch connector. The text diagram below is looking into the open connector on the back of the headlight, with the key to the left.
[CODE]
|--------|
|-| 1 4 |
| 2 5 |
|-| 3 6 |
|--------|
[/CODE]
When you build a harness to connect the switch to the headlights, it should connect the following pins together.
[CODE]
Switch Headlight
Pin Pin
SW0 - 7 1
SW1 - 6 2
SW2 - 3 3
SW3 - 4 4
+12V- 2 5 +12V
GND - 8 6 GND
[/CODE]
Here is a pic of the back of the headlight. The leveling switch connector is circled, and the arrow points to the wires that are connected to it.
[CODE]
|--------|
|-| 1 4 |
| 2 5 |
|-| 3 6 |
|--------|
[/CODE]
When you build a harness to connect the switch to the headlights, it should connect the following pins together.
[CODE]
Switch Headlight
Pin Pin
SW0 - 7 1
SW1 - 6 2
SW2 - 3 3
SW3 - 4 4
+12V- 2 5 +12V
GND - 8 6 GND
[/CODE]
Here is a pic of the back of the headlight. The leveling switch connector is circled, and the arrow points to the wires that are connected to it.
| Rocky WRX | 05-31-2002 10:50 PM |
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I pulled my lights a couple of weeks ago and wired some Molex 6-pin connectors to them in place of the stock level switch harness connectors. I did this because I could not locate a connector what would mate to them. You can get 6-pin Molex connectors at your local Radio Shack. I cut the wires going to the stock connector, then I stripped, crimped and soldered them to the Molex pins. When (if?) I ever get around to building the harness, Radio Shack sells Molex connectors that mate to the ones I wired to the headlights. You will need to fabricate a harness of 4 wires to hook the control wires between the switch and the headlights. The other 2 wires from each connector go to headlight power and chassis ground, respectively, as shown in the wiring diagram. Here is a pic of the Molex connector after I finished.
| WRXnFX | 05-31-2002 11:00 PM |
I'm wondering if I can adapt this to the Morettes. Can you check the resistance values running through the lights from pin 5 to the other pins on the headlight. I'm wondering if it is just a change in resistance that changes the level of the lights.
Winslow
Winslow
| Rocky WRX | 05-31-2002 11:16 PM |
The switch doesn't use different resistance values, it switches +12V to one of the 4 control wires. Each wire, when powered with +12V, will drive the headlight aiming motor to a different position.
| WRXnFX | 06-01-2002 06:01 AM |
That's why I asked you to shoot the lights and not the switch to check the resistance values of the headlight not the switch. I understand that the switch applies power to a different circuit in the lights but I'm wondering if it's a variable resistance value or something similar.
Winslow
Winslow
| Rocky WRX | 06-01-2002 08:11 AM |
Here's the resistance measurements across the headlight connector. I measured from pin6 (Gnd) to each control pin (1,2,3,4). I also measured from pin5 (+12V) to each control pin, but those measurements all showed open circuit.
1-6 Open Circuit
2-6 1.144 Mohms
3-6 1.026 Mohms
4-6 1.233 Mohms
1-6 Open Circuit
2-6 1.144 Mohms
3-6 1.026 Mohms
4-6 1.233 Mohms
| Benjamin Tang | 08-27-2002 12:44 AM |
bringing this thread back from the dead!
has anyone have any news/progress to report?
ben
has anyone have any news/progress to report?
ben
| nismo240 | 09-09-2002 02:39 PM |
just ordered the last set of Prodrive UK300's from The Tirerack. Anyone get the leveling switch figured out yet?
nismo240
nismo240
| STR8OUT | 09-09-2002 04:12 PM |
I PM Rocky a couple weeks back. He still hasn't completed the wiring. I think he has just put it off for a bit. Hopefully he will finish up so he can let us know if its a worthwhile mod.
JimHoyd.com will soon be offering the complete wiring setup so we can wait for that too.
-Brian
JimHoyd.com will soon be offering the complete wiring setup so we can wait for that too.
-Brian
| Benjamin Tang | 09-09-2002 11:04 PM |
i had brief contact with jim hoyd but when i asked about the levelers i got no response :confused:
| nismo240 | 09-10-2002 09:23 AM |
has anyone simply tried to apply a 12v/5v signal to the pins at the back of the headlight assembly? There may be no external black box. The circuitry could be in the leveling motors.
nismo240
nismo240
| drtaka | 09-10-2002 10:50 AM |
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I can't find post about JDM projector light thred.
So I post here.
This is the circuit to stay LO beam on when you turned on HI beam on for JDM headlight.
So I post here.
This is the circuit to stay LO beam on when you turned on HI beam on for JDM headlight.
| westy66 | 09-10-2002 11:41 AM |
i have been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for one of the electrical guru's to come thru with the solution for this :(
i recently added HID's to my UK300's, which is amazing btw, and want the switch functioning more than ever.
Bob
i recently added HID's to my UK300's, which is amazing btw, and want the switch functioning more than ever.
Bob
| Zahnster | 09-10-2002 12:18 PM |
Since the up/down and left/right adjustments on the Projector headlights have a motor, with some trick little box you could make your headlights dance!
| nismo240 | 09-13-2002 09:39 AM |
--- "CmAj7" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yep...had it working for a while.....I keep meaning to put instructions on
>i-club...just have not got around to it!!!
>
>Allan
Dont hold out on us Cmaj7.
What kind of signal does the leveling motor need? Is is just 12v to one of the 3 possible pins? Is there a ground pin or is the ground referenced through the bulb connector?
The wiring harness is not that hard to make, I just dont want to fry the motors while trying to figure out the connection scheme.
nismo240
>Yep...had it working for a while.....I keep meaning to put instructions on
>i-club...just have not got around to it!!!
>
>Allan
Dont hold out on us Cmaj7.
What kind of signal does the leveling motor need? Is is just 12v to one of the 3 possible pins? Is there a ground pin or is the ground referenced through the bulb connector?
The wiring harness is not that hard to make, I just dont want to fry the motors while trying to figure out the connection scheme.
nismo240
| nismo240 | 09-13-2002 09:40 AM |
--- "CmAj7" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yep...had it working for a while.....I keep meaning to put instructions on
>i-club...just have not got around to it!!!
>
>Allan
Dont hold out on us Cmaj7.
What kind of signal does the leveling motor need? Is is just 12v to one of the 3 possible pins? Is there a ground pin or is the ground referenced through the bulb connector?
The wiring harness is not that hard to make, I just dont want to fry the motors while trying to figure out the connection scheme.
nismo240
>Yep...had it working for a while.....I keep meaning to put instructions on
>i-club...just have not got around to it!!!
>
>Allan
Dont hold out on us Cmaj7.
What kind of signal does the leveling motor need? Is is just 12v to one of the 3 possible pins? Is there a ground pin or is the ground referenced through the bulb connector?
The wiring harness is not that hard to make, I just dont want to fry the motors while trying to figure out the connection scheme.
nismo240
| nismo240 | 09-13-2002 09:43 AM |
Does anyone have a JDM/UK FSM for the WRX. Can you post the troubleshoot section for the leveling motors/wiring?
nismo240
nismo240
| nismo240 | 09-13-2002 03:42 PM |
--- [email][email protected][/email] wrote:
>
>This is actally a pretty straightforward mod.
>
>The lights and the switch have all the necessary electronics.
>
>To answer your question....I'm doing this from memory...I did this mod several
>months ago....I'll need to look at my notes to be sure.
>
>Dash Switch - 4 pins
>Outside two pins
> Illumination relay, tap the illuination circuit and a ground (I have notes
> for specfically which wires I tapped).
>
>Center pins - (Have to check notes on which is which)
> One pin goes to a major ground .... run a wire to ground
> One pin goes to leveling motor .... you must run a wire from motor to switch
>
>Leveling motors - 3 pins - (Again, I'll have to check my notes)
>One pin is supplied with 12v - I forget which relay(circuit) I tapped....but
>again, I have notes
>One pin goes to major ground
>one pin is connected to dash switch ... this is the wire you ran above.
>
>The question is what goes where? I have detailed notes and diagrams. I
>will "try" to scan them this weekend and post everything.
>
>I was never able to find a connector for the back of the dash switch. One of
>the other i-club members sent me a couple of connectors from a computer case
>these work very well! Again I will take some pics and post!!!!
>
>notes:
>There are two versions of the UK 300 wiring harness(back of headlights). One
>version has the connector that allows you to connect the leveling motor. The
>other does not(both have the actual motor). The harness that originally came
>with my lights did not have the necessary connector. I bought my lights from
>Wim Wellinghoff in the UK. Wim sent me a replacement harness free of charge(he
>might charge for this now)I will take pictures of both, so that you can
>identify which harness you have.
>
>This is a cool mod and fills one of those annoying blanks in the dashboard, but
>the actual range of adjustment is not that great(maybe 8 degrees or less), also
>only the low beam is attached to the motor and adjustable.
>
>My recomendation, buy the headlights(they are great). Manually aim them and
>use the money you would have spent on a switch for a set of CIBIE driving
>lights. $ for $ they are a much better lighting investment!! You hit brights
>and the whole world lights up!! Unless you have plenty of ca$h in which case
>go for it!!!!
>
>cmaj7
>
>
>This is actally a pretty straightforward mod.
>
>The lights and the switch have all the necessary electronics.
>
>To answer your question....I'm doing this from memory...I did this mod several
>months ago....I'll need to look at my notes to be sure.
>
>Dash Switch - 4 pins
>Outside two pins
> Illumination relay, tap the illuination circuit and a ground (I have notes
> for specfically which wires I tapped).
>
>Center pins - (Have to check notes on which is which)
> One pin goes to a major ground .... run a wire to ground
> One pin goes to leveling motor .... you must run a wire from motor to switch
>
>Leveling motors - 3 pins - (Again, I'll have to check my notes)
>One pin is supplied with 12v - I forget which relay(circuit) I tapped....but
>again, I have notes
>One pin goes to major ground
>one pin is connected to dash switch ... this is the wire you ran above.
>
>The question is what goes where? I have detailed notes and diagrams. I
>will "try" to scan them this weekend and post everything.
>
>I was never able to find a connector for the back of the dash switch. One of
>the other i-club members sent me a couple of connectors from a computer case
>these work very well! Again I will take some pics and post!!!!
>
>notes:
>There are two versions of the UK 300 wiring harness(back of headlights). One
>version has the connector that allows you to connect the leveling motor. The
>other does not(both have the actual motor). The harness that originally came
>with my lights did not have the necessary connector. I bought my lights from
>Wim Wellinghoff in the UK. Wim sent me a replacement harness free of charge(he
>might charge for this now)I will take pictures of both, so that you can
>identify which harness you have.
>
>This is a cool mod and fills one of those annoying blanks in the dashboard, but
>the actual range of adjustment is not that great(maybe 8 degrees or less), also
>only the low beam is attached to the motor and adjustable.
>
>My recomendation, buy the headlights(they are great). Manually aim them and
>use the money you would have spent on a switch for a set of CIBIE driving
>lights. $ for $ they are a much better lighting investment!! You hit brights
>and the whole world lights up!! Unless you have plenty of ca$h in which case
>go for it!!!!
>
>cmaj7
>
| crowbar | 09-13-2002 09:01 PM |
i have a wiring diagram for the switch, i will post it sometime this weekend. i got my switch from some guy on i-club, for my euro-spec LHD projectors.
i am still looking for the plug that fits into the headlights for the adjusters. it has 6 pins fyi. if anyone has info on how i can get two of these plugs, it would be greatly appreciated.
i am still looking for the plug that fits into the headlights for the adjusters. it has 6 pins fyi. if anyone has info on how i can get two of these plugs, it would be greatly appreciated.
| gabewrx | 09-25-2002 08:39 PM |
ok i just got my sti head light from germany i was there for 2 weeks so i picked a set while there.... anyways has anyone yet figured this out???
cuz if this sounds right and the 6 pins on the motor
1:power 12v
2:ground
3: 0 position
4: 1 position
5: 2 position
6: 3 position
i measured the switch side and the 4 pins are
1: light
2:ground for the light
3:signal in
4: signal out and changes conductivity 0:1.8 1:750
2:480 3:150
so i was thinking on the head light you have a plug with 6 wires
2 of them are power and ground and the other 4 are signals
my question : ? can you just connect the 4 wires together???
did anyone come up with an answer for this yet???
cuz i`m going nutz!!!! lol:p :p
stupid leveling motor!!!:monkey: :alien:
cuz if this sounds right and the 6 pins on the motor
1:power 12v
2:ground
3: 0 position
4: 1 position
5: 2 position
6: 3 position
i measured the switch side and the 4 pins are
1: light
2:ground for the light
3:signal in
4: signal out and changes conductivity 0:1.8 1:750
2:480 3:150
so i was thinking on the head light you have a plug with 6 wires
2 of them are power and ground and the other 4 are signals
my question : ? can you just connect the 4 wires together???
did anyone come up with an answer for this yet???
cuz i`m going nutz!!!! lol:p :p
stupid leveling motor!!!:monkey: :alien:
| YaZahX | 11-06-2002 05:08 PM |
umm bump?
i have jdm lights, can i add this system? or should i keep dreaming?:)
i have jdm lights, can i add this system? or should i keep dreaming?:)
| gldenchld | 11-06-2002 05:34 PM |
Has anyone done this on their car yet???
| Benjamin Tang | 11-08-2002 10:15 AM |
doh.
[url]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=952[/url]
[url]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=952[/url]
| nismo240 | 12-05-2002 11:09 AM |
It appears that there are 2 different vertical mounting switches and 2 different headlight configurations depending on which lights your got.
Switches
1. 6 pin switch ( I believe this is the STi switch)
2. 4 pin switch (I am gonna call this the Prodrive switch)
Lights
1. STi lights, smoked glass covered projector beams, 6 pin level connector
2. Prodrive WRC lights, projector beams no glass covering 3 pin level connectors
The STi lights are straight forward. The swith has a +12 and GND pin and the other 4 pins get +12 switched to them when they are in positions 0-3. The headlights have a +12 and gnd pin and 4 position pins that just need +12 volts. Apply +12v at on of the positions pins and the lights will move to position x.
Harness 6 -> 6
The Prodrive lights only have a 3 pin connector on the light. I am going to assume that of the 3 pins one is +12v and one is GND. The third pin must take a 0-12v signal. Depending on the level of the input the light will move to position 0-3.
Harness 4->3 (switch is grounded in cabin and signal uses power ground at light)
Can anyone confirm my Prodrive light theory?
Does the 4 pin switch vary resistance depending on position?
Has anyone hooked up the Prodrive light leveling function?
nismo240
Switches
1. 6 pin switch ( I believe this is the STi switch)
2. 4 pin switch (I am gonna call this the Prodrive switch)
Lights
1. STi lights, smoked glass covered projector beams, 6 pin level connector
2. Prodrive WRC lights, projector beams no glass covering 3 pin level connectors
The STi lights are straight forward. The swith has a +12 and GND pin and the other 4 pins get +12 switched to them when they are in positions 0-3. The headlights have a +12 and gnd pin and 4 position pins that just need +12 volts. Apply +12v at on of the positions pins and the lights will move to position x.
Harness 6 -> 6
The Prodrive lights only have a 3 pin connector on the light. I am going to assume that of the 3 pins one is +12v and one is GND. The third pin must take a 0-12v signal. Depending on the level of the input the light will move to position 0-3.
Harness 4->3 (switch is grounded in cabin and signal uses power ground at light)
Can anyone confirm my Prodrive light theory?
Does the 4 pin switch vary resistance depending on position?
Has anyone hooked up the Prodrive light leveling function?
nismo240
| jjunior887 | 01-12-2003 06:04 PM |
Has anyone found the connectors for the headlight or the 6-pin switch yet. I'm also still trying to find a 6-pin switch but i have no idea where to look. I know vivid has the 4-pin but i need the 6 pin to make my wiring a bit easier. BTW I have the LHD STi lights coming soon and I wanted to have this stuff underway when I get them. Thanks-James
| Benjamin Tang | 01-12-2003 08:49 PM |
maybe we should wait for the usdm sti to show up at the dealers and parts to become available since it's HID setup uses the same switch and possibly the same wiring hardware?
| wrx_sti_ver4 | 01-14-2003 03:13 AM |
AFAIK, either way you go, the electrical harness for the impreza is split into sections (front, mid, rear, or something like that). So, I'm not sure if the US/Canadian dealers can get the front harness for cheaper than the Japanese ones can, but the dealer in Japan told me that it'd be about $600 and I doubt that its worth the trouble. I think making your own harness would be easier. Either that or maybe with the arrival of an OEM HID system, the US mechanics will now be able to help fabricate an adapter harness?
just my opinion.
just my opinion.
| nismo240 | 02-18-2003 11:49 AM |
I have successfully installed the level switch on my uk300's. The following explaination is for the connection of the 4 or 6 pin level switch to a 3 wire level system (EURO spec).
All you need is the switch. There are three wires on the headlight level motor.
Black = Ground
White/Red = +12V
I spliced into the headlamp wires to get power and ground.
The third wire is the level wire. You need to pull this connection to ground through a resistor to get the headlights to adjust up and down. If you have the 4 wire Euro switch all you need to do is connect the RED level wire from the headlights to the switch. The 4 connector switch has:
(cant remember exact pinout, for explaination purposes only)
1 - Power
2 - Ground (Power and ground are used to illuminate the switch)
3 - In/Out signal
4 - In/Out signal
If you measure the resistance across 3 and 4 while you change the switch position you will notice the resistance change. Hook the RED level wire from the headlight to pin 3 or 4 on the switch. Then connect the other pin to ground. This will pull the level wire (RED) to ground through the resistor.
That is the simple way to make it work. I had the 6 pin STI J-spec switch and still managed to make it work. The 6 pin switch is:
(cant remember exact pinout, for explaination purposes only)
1 - Power +12V
2 - Ground
3 - switch position 0
4 - switch position 1
5 - switch position 2
6 - switch position 3
The normal operation of the 6 pin switch is, pin 1 and 2 provide power for illumination. +12V is then routed to pins 3 through 6 depending on switch position. Since I needed to pull the level wire to ground, pin 1 became my ground and I did not power the switch. Because of this my switch does not illuminate. I then soldered resistors (I actually used pots so I could fine tune the positions) onto the pins 3 - 6. Not sure of the exact resistance but here are rough estimates.
3 - 2200 Ohms
4 - 1000 Ohms
5 - 750 Ohms
6 - Open circuit
I tied all the ends together and then connected them to the level wire.
Open circuit - headlights pointed full up
2200 Ohms - a little lower
1000 Ohms - even lower
750 Ohms - lowest setting
nismo240
All you need is the switch. There are three wires on the headlight level motor.
Black = Ground
White/Red = +12V
I spliced into the headlamp wires to get power and ground.
The third wire is the level wire. You need to pull this connection to ground through a resistor to get the headlights to adjust up and down. If you have the 4 wire Euro switch all you need to do is connect the RED level wire from the headlights to the switch. The 4 connector switch has:
(cant remember exact pinout, for explaination purposes only)
1 - Power
2 - Ground (Power and ground are used to illuminate the switch)
3 - In/Out signal
4 - In/Out signal
If you measure the resistance across 3 and 4 while you change the switch position you will notice the resistance change. Hook the RED level wire from the headlight to pin 3 or 4 on the switch. Then connect the other pin to ground. This will pull the level wire (RED) to ground through the resistor.
That is the simple way to make it work. I had the 6 pin STI J-spec switch and still managed to make it work. The 6 pin switch is:
(cant remember exact pinout, for explaination purposes only)
1 - Power +12V
2 - Ground
3 - switch position 0
4 - switch position 1
5 - switch position 2
6 - switch position 3
The normal operation of the 6 pin switch is, pin 1 and 2 provide power for illumination. +12V is then routed to pins 3 through 6 depending on switch position. Since I needed to pull the level wire to ground, pin 1 became my ground and I did not power the switch. Because of this my switch does not illuminate. I then soldered resistors (I actually used pots so I could fine tune the positions) onto the pins 3 - 6. Not sure of the exact resistance but here are rough estimates.
3 - 2200 Ohms
4 - 1000 Ohms
5 - 750 Ohms
6 - Open circuit
I tied all the ends together and then connected them to the level wire.
Open circuit - headlights pointed full up
2200 Ohms - a little lower
1000 Ohms - even lower
750 Ohms - lowest setting
nismo240
| h2o | 02-19-2003 07:57 PM |
Thanks, nismo240. You might solve our problems, too. (morettes) Thumbs up!
| Vandy | 04-06-2003 02:27 PM |
Would anyone know if there is a kit for the UK300's available? I'm too lazy to DIY.
TIA,
Paul
TIA,
Paul
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 11:26 AM |
So has anyone successfully wired the 4 position knob switch?
If so pictures of the wires actually installed and instructions would be extremely helpful. At this point I am convinced this can not be wired DIY and there is another piece required to take the resistance of the top back post to determine which of the 4 motor wires to supply with 12v. The holes on the four contacts are only big enough for a single strand of wire.
If so pictures of the wires actually installed and instructions would be extremely helpful. At this point I am convinced this can not be wired DIY and there is another piece required to take the resistance of the top back post to determine which of the 4 motor wires to supply with 12v. The holes on the four contacts are only big enough for a single strand of wire.
| Vandy | 05-02-2003 11:54 AM |
I'm going to order the switch soon and try to follow nismo240 instructions and see if it will work. But yes a little more detailed how to would be great.
Paul
Paul
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 12:00 PM |
The problem is I have STi headlights and the 4 pin. I don't think it is meant to work with the 4 pin. I need that 6 pin switch, I can see how that would work properly. Anyone have that part number?
| stanton | 05-02-2003 06:10 PM |
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com] CC-B[/URL] has them.
-edit- I'm wrong! Aparently these are 4-pin switches.
-edit- I'm wrong! Aparently these are 4-pin switches.
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 06:31 PM |
Thanks.
CC-B has 4 pin (that is where mine came from and those are the ones that I am struggling with and can't get wired for the STi lights) - I am asking for a part number on the JDM STi 6 pin switch.
CC-B has 4 pin (that is where mine came from and those are the ones that I am struggling with and can't get wired for the STi lights) - I am asking for a part number on the JDM STi 6 pin switch.
| stanton | 05-02-2003 06:44 PM |
ah crap... I should have read this thread a little more carefully! It clearly shows the switch as a 4-pin. I have the JDM STi HIDs and this switch is on it's way to me from cc-b.
But now I'm confused... and sorry to add to the confusion - I'm usually pretty careful about the information I post.
So, I thought that all Subaru STi lights took the 6-pin connector (which, since cc-b had switches for the EDM STi lights, they were good for my JDMs. I guess not! I thought the Morettes (and others?) were the only ones to use the 4-pin.
Now I'm in the same boat :rolleyes:
But now I'm confused... and sorry to add to the confusion - I'm usually pretty careful about the information I post.
So, I thought that all Subaru STi lights took the 6-pin connector (which, since cc-b had switches for the EDM STi lights, they were good for my JDMs. I guess not! I thought the Morettes (and others?) were the only ones to use the 4-pin.
Now I'm in the same boat :rolleyes:
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 08:57 PM |
Ditto on the readiing more carefully. I did not fully appreciate the full meaning of this thread until I took apart my four pin to try and solder the wires as described (but not shown) on scooby mods.
Anyone know the part number or a source for a 6 pin leveler switch?
Anyone know the part number or a source for a 6 pin leveler switch?
| stanton | 05-02-2003 09:03 PM |
4-pin: 83011FE000
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet.
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet.
| Vandy | 05-02-2003 09:32 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by stanton [/i]
[B]4-pin: 83011FE000
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet. [/B][/QUOTE]
You can order them from the dealer, those are Subaru part numbers.
[B]4-pin: 83011FE000
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet. [/B][/QUOTE]
You can order them from the dealer, those are Subaru part numbers.
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 09:34 PM |
Hopefully US #s not all dealers will order numbers not available from SOA.
Or else we could have ordered the LHD lights from the dealers I had those Subaru numbers also - but most dealers in my area will not order parts that are not in the USDM.
Or else we could have ordered the LHD lights from the dealers I had those Subaru numbers also - but most dealers in my area will not order parts that are not in the USDM.
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 09:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by stanton [/i]
[B]4-pin: 83011FE000
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanks,
Now if we could only find the Nissan part numbers they would probably be less expensive.
[B]4-pin: 83011FE000
6-pin: 83011FE010
But I don't know where to get them - yet. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanks,
Now if we could only find the Nissan part numbers they would probably be less expensive.
| stanton | 05-02-2003 10:36 PM |
I've tried my local dealer for the switches long ago. LOL^2! very clueless.
Weren't the Nissan switches horizontal?
I'm about to just find a 4-position rotary switch, drill a hole in one of the blanks and be done with it. Not pretty, but less agrevating.
Weren't the Nissan switches horizontal?
I'm about to just find a 4-position rotary switch, drill a hole in one of the blanks and be done with it. Not pretty, but less agrevating.
| turboICE | 05-02-2003 10:41 PM |
Both of these are Nissan swtiches, when you get yours you will see that the switch is stamped Nissan.
I like the roller better than the knob swtich anyway - if you are talking about the infinti switch.
I like the roller better than the knob swtich anyway - if you are talking about the infinti switch.
| stanton | 05-02-2003 10:53 PM |
Yes, I misunderstood. I like the roller-type better too. The types I've used in the UK seemed to be "infinitly adjustable", not discrete positions. And they are intuitive; headlights too high - bump the adjustment down a little.
It [I]seems[/I] that the lights that take the 4-pin switch actually have a servo unit which could be infinitely adjusted. The lights that take a 6-pin switch can only be adjust to 4 positions.
It [I]seems[/I] that the lights that take the 4-pin switch actually have a servo unit which could be infinitely adjusted. The lights that take a 6-pin switch can only be adjust to 4 positions.
| CC-B | 05-05-2003 04:00 PM |
Kevin,
I've sent you an e-mail. We can get you both the 4-pin or the 6-pin w/o problems. 4-pin I have in stock, 6-pin coming in.
Regards
Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B[/URL]
I've sent you an e-mail. We can get you both the 4-pin or the 6-pin w/o problems. 4-pin I have in stock, 6-pin coming in.
Regards
Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B[/URL]
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