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JDM Rear Light Look (04+ Model) part 4

piker28 08-28-2006 10:14 PM

^^thats what i want to do but little nervous on takin a dremel to a bulb and puttin it in something its not meant to go
Psybin 08-28-2006 10:49 PM

I thought about that but...
You don�t have to go crazy on the tabs with the dremel, just enough to smooth them out, you don�t want to take them flush off.
That socket uses the 12v in the dual filament as the break light originally, 5v for running light. So the 5v part just isn�t used, signal is sent but nothing is there to receive it. I�m assuming that will be ok, its just going to a glass tab that�s minus the metal wire to conduct the 5v into the bulb.
The bulbs are probably designed to only fit in the sockets designed for them for a road safety reason, i.e. someone doesn�t accidentally put a single into a dual slot and then not have break lights and get rear ended.

I'll be keeping a close eye on the bulbs, if anything starts acting funky I'll post it first thing.
semaj 08-29-2006 04:02 AM

[QUOTE=ProdriveRex;15046801][IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/seattledude/JDMSchematic.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I did that to my '05 tails on my 2.5i...no cutting wires, no soldering, etc. I love the look of just the circle light tails, and the outside light brakes, with the centre empty :D

EDIT: I also didn't need to modify the sockets...they WILL go in with a little effort, and will come out with a little more effort as well. I have already changed a few bulbs that burned out...piece of cake!
0BlueSTi4 09-06-2006 03:50 AM

[QUOTE=2phless;11383540]


[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/2861719549.jpg[/IMG]


[/QUOTE]

Hey what are those two blue lights inside your driver door?
9vapors 09-06-2006 04:34 AM

[QUOTE=wildwrxwracer;12988178]let me know how to do this to an 02-03[/QUOTE]

I don't see where or how to do this either, can someone please explain? I like pictures, I am a little slow...thanks!
ekw 09-06-2006 07:59 AM

aren't the explanations in posts 83 & 85 adequate?
there have been people who posted in this thread w/ 02 & 03 cars in their sig.

i am not trying to be a tool, just not sure what the difference would be.
essentially, you unplug the bulb (leaving wire attached) from the back of the housing and move it to a different hole.
some people leave the 'middle' part of the housing empty.
some don't.
9vapors 09-06-2006 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=ekw;15145117]aren't the explanations in posts 83 & 85 adequate?
there have been people who posted in this thread w/ 02 & 03 cars in their sig.

i am not trying to be a tool, just not sure what the difference would be.
essentially, you unplug the bulb (leaving wire attached) from the back of the housing and move it to a different hole.
some people leave the 'middle' part of the housing empty.
some don't.[/QUOTE]

The poster of#83 says he has an 04 in his sig... I don't want to randomly unplug bulbs and stuff into random holes, I want to have the JDM look not just what looks cool, I am trying to make an S202 replica... sort of.
DeKaP 09-07-2006 01:16 AM

i did this tonight but instead of you guys.......i got the 2 inside lights on when parking brakes on and when the brakes pressed the outside one lights up.....i like it much better like this......
0BlueSTi4 09-07-2006 01:57 AM

has anyone attempted to make a modulating/blinking third brake light the one located on the spoiler? what can i say i was watching F1 way too much lately...
but seriously i think it might look cool if the third brake light was blinking whenever you hit the brakes as well as grab attention of tailgating morons behind
any idea where to get a suitable modulator for this? perhaps the one that allows to change the frequency of modulation would be nice
i'm not sure if the third brake on STi uses 12 volts or less since it uses LEDs
ProdriveRex 09-07-2006 09:09 AM

^^^ thats a cool idea. Anyone?
Psybin 09-07-2006 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=0BlueSTi4;15157503]has anyone attempted to make a modulating/blinking third brake light the one located on the spoiler? what can i say i was watching F1 way too much lately...
but seriously i think it might look cool if the third brake light was blinking whenever you hit the brakes as well as grab attention of tailgating morons behind
any idea where to get a suitable modulator for this? perhaps the one that allows to change the frequency of modulation would be nice
i'm not sure if the third brake on STi uses 12 volts or less since it uses LEDs[/QUOTE]

That was big in the Atlanta area about 7-8 years ago. Some cars came from the dealer with the modulator installed in the third break light as an "extra". I used to see it all the time. My dad did it for my GSR, it had two bulbs in the third break light and they alternated back and forth when the breaks were applied, I'm not sure exactly how he did it, you could PM sonumb and ask him.
outferno 09-13-2006 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=SubieDrift;14417587]What about when the bulb burns out?[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, haven't posted in a while. I'm the OP of this mod.

To answer SubieDrift's question: The reason I don't just do the switch and why I despise the switch all together, is the bad fitment of the cuppings to the housing. They're hard to take out and they're hard to reach with the wires extended so far. Hence the need for minor cutting of the cupping and the extension of wires.

When I originally did the mod, I swapped harnesses for both sides. I wasn't prepared to cut wires and I didn't have the exact look yet, I had to check the Option video several times. I think I wasted a good hour watching the same video clip to make sure my eyes weren't tricking me.

It's fairly easy to do if you know the basics of soldering.

A lot of people have done quite a good job of explaining it in this thread - sorry that I haven't kept up with it, but after a lot of people just going with the 10 minute switch up, I decided to stop checking in on this thread, lol. Oh well.
ILSMKU2 10-12-2006 01:01 PM

Has anyone made the inner and outter driving lights AND brake lights too? Know what I mean? Like use a dual filiment bulb? How would I go about doing that?


Thanks!
JBravo920 10-12-2006 01:18 PM

Stock:
1.Tail + Brake
2.Tail
3.Brake
4.Reverse
5.Turn Signal

Mine:
1.Brake
2.Turn Signal
3.Tail + Brake
4.Reverse
5.Reverse

I had to splice some extra wire on a few lines for extra length, but I switch (from stock form) Light bulb from spot 1 to spot 3 and 3 into 1, so those two you just add enough wire to go into eachothers holes. Then I disconnected the taillight in spot 2 by cutting the red wire (leave the black wire alone, its a ground) then I spliced the white and black wire that is not connected to anything with the brown reverse wire, therefore having 2 reverse lights, then moved that light to spot 5. I then took the turn signal bulb, switched it with a clear colored 7440 bulb (it doesnt fit perfectly, but it will stay) and put that down in spot number 2, therefore having no more yellow turn signal. Here is a mspaint of what mine are like...[IMG]http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/JBravo920/taillights.jpg[/IMG]
and this is what stock is like: [IMG]http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/JBravo920/taillightsstock.jpg[/IMG]
So when I have the taillights on just number 3 is lit up, when im braking number 1 and 3 are lit up, spot number 2 is my turn signals and I have both 4 and 5 for my reverse lights, giving me twice the amount of light going in more directions for backing up, I have tinted windows and when I used to be backing up at night I had to roll the windows down to be able to see the reverse lights, now I can leave the windows up and see everything behind me very clear!
ILSMKU2 10-12-2006 01:25 PM

^^^ Interesting mod you did there. Not sure if that was ment to be an answer to my question, or if you were just sharing what you did.

But I am looking for the inner light and outter light to be driving lights AND brake likes too.

So when I have driving lights on, only one filiment is on. And when I press the brake, the other filiment lights up.


It appears the middle light has 2 filiments, but only one is used? WTF? Interesting. Must be used on JDM versions or something.
pacRim 10-12-2006 01:27 PM

what i did was swap the single fillament bulb with the dual fillament bulb. so now when i turn my lights on only the circle bulb lights up. and when i brake all 3 light up
JBravo920 10-12-2006 01:27 PM

not needed
ekw 10-12-2006 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=pacRim;15586707]what i did was swap the single fillament bulb with the dual fillament bulb. so now when i turn my lights on only the circle bulb lights up. and when i brake all 3 light up[/QUOTE]

That's how mine are set up as well.
WhiteFox 10-12-2006 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=pacRim;15586707]what i did was swap the single fillament bulb with the dual fillament bulb. so now when i turn my lights on only the circle bulb lights up. and when i brake all 3 light up[/QUOTE]

The socket is designed for a dual filament bulb, but from the factory it comes with a single filament? Or did you add a dual filament socket?
ILSMKU2 10-12-2006 06:07 PM

I still want to know how to make the outter edge light and circle light both act like driving lights AND brake lights. Meaning the edge and circle light need to be dual filiment.

As far as I remember (without going outside to look) there is only ONE dual filiment light and the others are singles (but one of the singles HAS a dual filiment light in it).


Has anyone done that?

This is how I want it to look when driving lights are on....
[IMG]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/scrwrx/brakeOffN.jpg[/IMG]


And this is how I want it to look when braking...

[IMG]http://i10.tinypic.com/3ztlqiw.jpg[/IMG]


Anyone?
JBravo920 10-12-2006 06:17 PM

That is the best looking spot for the lights, but I think you have to ask yourself about safety and realize there are a lot of people on the road who dont look at whats in front of them. If you have the taillights be the exact same as the brake lights (except for the 3rd brake light in the wing) a lot of people may not even notice that you have hit your brakes and the possibility of getting rear ended will go up quite a bit. Its a good look, but I dont think its worth the risk...
ILSMKU2 10-12-2006 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=JBravo920;15591000]That is the best looking spot for the lights, but I think you have to ask yourself about safety and realize there are a lot of people on the road who dont look at whats in front of them. If you have the taillights be the exact same as the brake lights (except for the 3rd brake light in the wing) a lot of people may not even notice that you have hit your brakes and the possibility of getting rear ended will go up quite a bit. Its a good look, but I dont think its worth the risk...[/QUOTE]


Many many many cars have there tail lights this way. I see cars all day long that are designed with tail lights that act as a driving light AND brake light.

I see your point, but im not worried about that. The difference in light output is noticable.


Thanks,
DJ
JBravo920 10-12-2006 07:00 PM

well by looking at the properties on the pictures you posted it looks like they are from member 'scrwrx', why dont you send him a pm and ask him how he hooked up his lights, most people on here are willing to help.
WhiteFox 10-12-2006 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=djennison;15590922]I still want to know how to make the outter edge light and circle light both act like driving lights AND brake lights. Meaning the edge and circle light need to be dual filiment.

As far as I remember (without going outside to look) there is only ONE dual filiment light and the others are singles (but one of the singles HAS a dual filiment light in it).


Has anyone done that?

This is how I want it to look when driving lights are on....


And this is how I want it to look when braking...

Anyone?[/QUOTE]

I think it would be better to have all three light up for the brakes for safety reasons. Its much easier to see a light come on, than it is to see lights get brighter, well IMO at least. Sometimes i see cars and I ask myself is that car stopping or...?
ILSMKU2 10-13-2006 02:15 AM

[QUOTE=JBravo920;15591523]well by looking at the properties on the pictures you posted it looks like they are from member 'scrwrx', why dont you send him a pm and ask him how he hooked up his lights, most people on here are willing to help.[/QUOTE]



His dont brake the way I want. His brake all three at once. Thats how I currently have it mine. I just wanted to do it differently. I'll figure it out.


Thanks
anthonywrx 10-14-2006 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=00Maddog;11401600]ok i did it tonight, took less than 5 minutes, as my trunk liner was already loose lol.

it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights.

move the plugs like this:

say when you start out, looking at the drivers taillight from the rear of the car, that the outside light is #1, the middle #2, and the round lens inner one is #3.

swap them so now left to right they are #'s 3, 1, 2

and remove the bulb from socket 1.

everything will fit, and without stretching things!

great mod, should be a sticky!![/QUOTE]


here is what this mod will do:

running lights, NO brake pushed

[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/AnthonyWRX/10-14-06_1932.jpg[/IMG]


then brake pushed in

[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/AnthonyWRX/10-14-06_1935.jpg[/IMG]

sorry bout the bad pics, just plugged them in before my rear end conversion, waiting on bumper and wanted to make sure i had everything working:disco:
karlknaupp 10-20-2006 07:03 PM

[quote=00Maddog;11401600]ok i did it tonight, took less than 5 minutes, as my trunk liner was already loose lol.

it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights.

move the plugs like this:

say when you start out, looking at the drivers taillight from the rear of the car, that the outside light is #1, the middle #2, and the round lens inner one is #3.

swap them so now left to right they are #'s 3, 1, 2

and remove the bulb from socket 1.

everything will fit, and without stretching things!

great mod, should be a sticky!![/quote]


here are my after pics on this mod...i forgot to take pics b4 i switched things around

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/karlknaupp/DSCF4625resize.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/karlknaupp/DSCF4628resize.jpg[/IMG]
00Maddog 10-20-2006 11:16 PM

combine this mod with xenon style license plate bulbs, and chromed xenon reverse and chromed amber signals, and you have one hot rear end... :D

as for the bulbs try these guys:

[url]www.superlumination.com[/url]

the prices seem too cheap for quality but it's good stuff.
EJS 10-21-2006 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=00Maddog;15692438]combine this mod with xenon style license plate bulbs, and chromed xenon reverse and chromed amber signals, and you have one hot rear end... :D

as for the bulbs try these guys:

[url]www.superlumination.com[/url]

the prices seem too cheap for quality but it's good stuff.[/QUOTE]

I bought all the chromed bulbs... replaced them all except the rear turns.. the chromed rear turn signals werent bright at all, in daylight you can barely see them blink... So they are orange still!
FWD WRX 11-04-2006 12:43 AM

i need help. i did the 1-3 switch and removed the middle one.. it was working fine for a week then my right outer brake light went out. i removed the bulb and compared it to the left one and it looks fine.. the metal line in the middle stills connect and it doesn't look burnt out. if i had a bad fuse it would affect both sides wouldn't it? anyone have any ideas
JBravo920 11-04-2006 03:52 PM

did you extend the wires? if you did you should recheck your wiring. I dont really see what can go wrong with the harness or anything just switching spots, the only bulb that is in its original spot on my tail lights is the original reverse bulb, everything else has been swapped to a different spot, so hopefully you just have a loose wire or something.
arco 11-14-2006 03:29 AM

i'm excited to try but too lazy to get out of bed. haha. my laptop is crippling me. haha
Bishop 11-14-2006 03:33 AM

still waitin on some wagon peeps to do this. :(
vvafivv 11-18-2006 12:38 AM

is there any one in so cal that can help me with this.....i almost messed up my lights
vvafivv 11-18-2006 12:40 AM

help....
cannibal869 11-18-2006 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=vvafivv;16034418]help....[/QUOTE]

Where are you? I assume you have an 04-05...
I'm in Marina, which may be quite a while away from you
Psybin 11-18-2006 12:46 AM

um... there is some stuff on page 3 about the 02 tails. Explain the problem you are having and maybe someone could help over the forums. It cant be that hard, just wedge a shoe into your break pedal, go back there and figure it out. Good luck. Or post regionally.
rice h8r 12-26-2006 08:31 PM

I was curious wouldn't you guys want more light under braking?
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/karlknaupp/DSCF4628resize.jpg[/IMG]
for example in this case, the circle part does not get brighter under braking.
Basically if it's 1-2-3 looking from left to right on the driver's side tail, it would be 3-1-2 with 1 removed.
To my understand 1 is dual filament which means if you do "3-2-1" with 2 removed, that mean 3 and 1 would light up under braking and only 1 would be lit with the parking/headlights on, no?
Wouldn't this be better since you would have two bulbs lighting up while braking compared to only one with the setup above.
ekw 12-27-2006 09:24 AM

well, there are a number of variations in the thread.
some of the people are trying to be as JDM as possible,
and some are trying variations on the theme.
check out my post (#52). sorry no pics.
but I get max light output on braking
:)
rice h8r 12-28-2006 04:28 PM

^ I see what you did... that's good idea too!
btw not sure if you know this already, but on the center one, the brake light wire is cut from the factory since it isn't used as a brake light...
2.5 SUBY 01-07-2007 09:47 PM

Just did mine as well.. it loooks BA

time for new pics as soon as i clear and paint my fronts :)
molehill84 01-24-2007 10:58 PM

How do I mod the tails like 2phless...
I like 2phless' setup (FROM PAGE 4)...does anyone have a write-up of what LED's he used and how he swapped the bulbs or wiring??? His video is awesome that shows how they work!
molehill84 01-25-2007 09:39 PM

I guess 2phless' setup may not even be replacement LED's...has anyone else done their's like in his movie??
s1lentx 01-27-2007 09:28 PM

help
im havin a real pita time right now doing this as i just followed the write up everyone else did... all i did was switch the middle light with the inner (circle) and now the outside doesnt work for some reason did i do somthing wrong? btw- the circle and middle turn on at the same time someone help!
piker28 01-27-2007 09:36 PM

arent you supposed to take the middle bulb out?
s1lentx 01-27-2007 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=piker28;16835228]arent you supposed to take the middle bulb out?[/QUOTE]

oh is that the only problem?
molehill84 01-28-2007 04:28 PM

Bump for anyone that can give me any information about 2phless' setup from page four...
JBravo920 01-28-2007 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=molehill84;16813257]I guess 2phless' setup may not even be replacement LED's...has anyone else done their's like in his movie??[/QUOTE]

Mine is basically the same, the only difference is I only have the center light flash for a turn signal instead of the center and outter light, I personally like it that way. Its pretty easy to do and I didnt have to buy leds or anything. The change in light when in reverse is insane!!
molehill84 01-29-2007 12:46 AM

JBravo920: Thanks for the reply, can you give me a run-down on which bulb gets swapped to where...
JBravo920 01-29-2007 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=molehill84;16845281]JBravo920: Thanks for the reply, can you give me a run-down on which bulb gets swapped to where...[/QUOTE]

its on page 8, post 194
molehill84 01-29-2007 07:37 PM

JBravo920: Thanks for the help...I'll give it a shot soon...
molehill84 02-03-2007 01:47 PM

A question or two before I do this...Sorry to nit-pick but I don't want to get started and not be able to drive w/o tails, haha...

I've got this part of the mod...I'll just splice some extra wires for extra length like it says...[I]"I had to splice some extra wire on a few lines for extra length, but I switch (from stock form) Light bulb from spot 1 to spot 3 and 3 into 1, so those two you just add enough wire to go into eachothers holes."
[/I]
This is where my questions come from...[I]"Then I disconnected the taillight in spot 2 by cutting the red wire (leave the black wire alone, its a ground) then I spliced the white and black wire that is not connected to anything with the brown reverse wire, therefore having 2 reverse lights, then moved that light to spot 5. I then took the turn signal bulb, switched it with a clear colored 7440 bulb (it doesnt fit perfectly, but it will stay) and put that down in spot number 2, therefore having no more yellow turn signal. Here is a mspaint of what mine are like..."[/I]

[B]So my questions are...[/B]
1. When you cut the red wire to the bulb in spot 2, the only wires that will be connected to the bulb when you put it in position 5 are: the black (ground), and the black and white wire which now goes to the brown of the reverse light??...The red wire is gone completely??
2.Did you just tape up both sides of the red wire and leave them alone?

I guess I just got confused by how it was written...[I]"I spliced the white and black wire [B]that is not connected to anything [/B]with the brown reverse wire." [/I] It was originally connected to the bulb in spot 2 but then I guess it gets snipped and spliced to the brown of the reverse light...
molehill84 02-05-2007 10:41 PM

Bump...can anyone help me with the questions from my last post...
outferno 02-06-2007 09:12 PM

molehill84: in order to do a bulb extension, I only extended one of the bulbs. I believe they were colored for black and black/white. This was to extend the bulb to close towards the outside housing.

I did not cut the dual filament wires, as those didn't need the extension.
molehill84 02-06-2007 10:59 PM

outferno: So you're saying the only wire you entended was the black/white wire? I guess for the bottom row of lights you just cut the tape to seperate them a little bit? Sorry, your post was a little confusing...
Letx 02-06-2007 11:50 PM

[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/rear04tails.jpg[/IMG]

i bought these off anthonywrx who did the tail light mod before, thanks man!
ayanami22 02-07-2007 12:52 AM

anyone have a pic of this mod with 06 tails?
JBravo920 02-07-2007 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=molehill84;16918433]A question or two before I do this...Sorry to nit-pick but I don't want to get started and not be able to drive w/o tails, haha...

I've got this part of the mod...I'll just splice some extra wires for extra length like it says...[I]"I had to splice some extra wire on a few lines for extra length, but I switch (from stock form) Light bulb from spot 1 to spot 3 and 3 into 1, so those two you just add enough wire to go into eachothers holes."
[/I]
This is where my questions come from...[I]"Then I disconnected the taillight in spot 2 by cutting the red wire (leave the black wire alone, its a ground) then I spliced the white and black wire that is not connected to anything with the brown reverse wire, therefore having 2 reverse lights, then moved that light to spot 5. I then took the turn signal bulb, switched it with a clear colored 7440 bulb (it doesnt fit perfectly, but it will stay) and put that down in spot number 2, therefore having no more yellow turn signal. Here is a mspaint of what mine are like..."[/I]

[B]So my questions are...[/B]
1. When you cut the red wire to the bulb in spot 2, the only wires that will be connected to the bulb when you put it in position 5 are: the black (ground), and the black and white wire which now goes to the brown of the reverse light??...The red wire is gone completely??
2.Did you just tape up both sides of the red wire and leave them alone?

I guess I just got confused by how it was written...[I]"I spliced the white and black wire [B]that is not connected to anything [/B]with the brown reverse wire." [/I] It was originally connected to the bulb in spot 2 but then I guess it gets snipped and spliced to the brown of the reverse light...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the red wire is completely disconnected. I originally tried to hook the brown reverse light wire to the red wire, but it was a very dim light, when I reconnected it to the black and white wire instead it was the same brightness as the original reverse light, therefore doubling my reverse light output. So just cut the red wire, connect the reverse to the black and white wire, and leave the ground alone and it will come out right.
molehill84 02-08-2007 09:30 PM

I just went out and replaced my license plate lights with some Xenon's, which looks awesome, and took another look at the tail lights...it looks like I'm going to have to lengthen both the 1 and 3 spot-light for sure and then tackle the double reverse light splicing...I went and bought some 16 gauge wire for it at NAPA...Thanks for your help guys, I can't wait to do this Saturday...
molehill84 02-11-2007 11:20 PM

I did the lights yesterday, they came out great...everything works just like I had hoped...Thanks for everybody's help!

Just one thing...

The lights from spots 2 and 5 don't really fit very well in each other's spots (the turn signal and middle tail). I shoved them in as best as I could b/c I had to get the car back together to get to work on time...
Will these lock in place like the others or will they just kinda sit there not quite in the whole way???

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