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lets build a car for pinks part 2

silentbob343 08-24-2006 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=InfamousDX]Sure to compete against RnR... yikes. It would be fun.. but to be truly successful you would need a GOOD project manager.[/QUOTE]
I have MS project ;)
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=InfamousDX](DSS axles are $1000 front/$500 rear)[/QUOTE]
Opposite...$1000 for the rears....
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=InfamousDX]I don't think you wanna build a 9 second car... because they you need a better cage, possibly a chute if you trap 145 i think it is.. more and more cost.[/QUOTE]
You don't need that stuff as there are no times on Pinks. You are launching from a arm drop, no times just who crosses the finish line first. Just like Stroudsburg Airport runs, it's a grudge race :devil:
TheDocta 08-24-2006 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=InfamousDX]Yea but you need one guy to be the so-called figurehead even if he doesn't have all the power. Otherwise it's a mess dealign with all the stuff... in regard to talking to the show, that is.

Personally I think it's STUPID tough to do. Little things you won't figure... blowing out a rear diff, blowing out axles (DSS axles are $1000 front/$500 rear), gotta find a shop for a cage. I don't think you wanna build a 9 second car... because they you need a better cage, possibly a chute if you trap 145 i think it is.. more and more cost. you really need the support of a shop that has built drag cars before, as most of the competitors on teh show had.[/QUOTE]

I know a shop that has built 9 second cars we have the tubes for the cage all we need is a welder, I understand the figurehead thing, i think that should be the guy that started the thread gc835 if he is willing, or someone who knows what to do in relation to the show

who cares if we break, we will test the car before we take it, I would suggest make about 10 passes to get the car dialed in before we take it, and even if we do break we did something and have something to show for it, more than sitting on our asses all year, and a chute isnt a big problem

and who says we wont get sponsored? Everyone throw in 5 bucks and ask all the shops we know and companys we buy from for help were bound to get something if the can advertise on the car
TheDocta 08-24-2006 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=2002WRXSTi]You don't need that stuff as there are no times on Pinks. You are launching from a arm drop, no times just who crosses the finish line first. Just like Stroudsburg Airport runs, it's a grudge race :devil:[/QUOTE]

thats a good point so we dont need a chute but a roll cage is still neccisary, its not worth killing someone, and all we need is a welder to make one so its not like its really that much of an extra burden

O and money wise i was thinking a pay pal account where everone tips in a few bucks i mean really how much is 5 or 10 bucks to everyone here, and if everyone gives up some old parts if we dont use em we could e bay them or sell them on here for money
CatfaceType-R 08-24-2006 04:42 PM

you guys should do it...i'm down if called upon fer anything...let everyone know what subi's can do

2.0?2.5?built?
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=soon2bblackongold]you guys should do it...i'm down if called upon fer anything...let everyone know what subi's can do

2.0?2.5?built?[/QUOTE]
Would be interesting to use a stock EJ207 to stick it to em that a stock Subaru engine was able to whoop A$$ but they are talking stroker with GT42 and stuff on there thread already :mad:

Unfortunately there are no rules with this kind of stuff. It is the same as street racing but on a strip instead so it is at least leagal and there are no excuses :p

I like the Paypal donation thought too :D
HamFist 08-24-2006 04:53 PM

-2.0 RA block
-built heads
-front mounted GT42R turbo (outback motorsports headers)
-alcohol fuel
-cage
-stripped L chassis
-fuel cell + twin pump
-Justy radiator
-15in rims + stickies
-**** the brakes :devil:
-WAIC
-twin 1000-1200cc injectors
-40-50psi of boost (E98 WILL SUPPORT THIS!)
-Mark Ringleman's auto tranny (1)

I'm not kidding. I think too many big egos make this too complicated. Aside from parts and labor, there's just time. Aside from building this, I need a trailor and truck to tow it with. 10k into the car isn't a problem...the truck and trailor is my hold up!!!
wacerx 08-24-2006 04:54 PM

how about the OP starting a list of parts/services needed, people willing to help (once a build site is chosen), the time limit allowed on the build by pinks, what sponsors have hopped on to help and any other things i missed. this would make it much easier to check on the threads progress.

overall i think it would be a great idea to have a forum built car on there representing the subaru community. i would definitely pitch in a few bucks to make it happen. as someone said before, we must know what the guidlines are for pinks and our possible challengers like i-club or evom or maybe a privateer with a subie or evo.

make sure to keep us all updated
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=HamFist]-2.0 RA block
-built heads
-front mounted GT42R turbo (outback motorsports headers)
-alcohol fuel
-cage
-stripped L chassis
-fuel cell + twin pump
-Justy radiator
-15in rims + stickies
-**** the brakes :devil:
-WAIC
-twin 1000-1200cc injectors
-40-50psi of boost (E98 WILL SUPPORT THIS!)
-Mark Ringleman's auto tranny (1)

I'm not kidding. I think too many big egos make this too complicated. Aside from parts and labor, there's just time. Aside from building this, I need a trailor and truck to tow it with. 10k into the car isn't a problem...the truck and trailor is my hold up!!![/QUOTE]
Sounds kinda like what TurboTrix has been building for the longest time :lol:
vlady 08-24-2006 05:03 PM

We can also do a strocker with a twin scroll gt42 *cough*UR*cough* if some vendors step up with sponsorships. I would love to see this go down and will do whatever I can to help out (money and/or time)
InfamousDX 08-24-2006 05:05 PM

I just like playing devil's advocate guys... SOMEONE has to, ya know!

why Garret GT series? They're expensiev... a 42R is like $2300 i think. Look into maybe Precision Turbos or similar. Built auto tranny... taht sounds expensive, too. In theory it doesn't sound too hard though...
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 05:07 PM

The nice thing about the Auto is it makes it almost fool proof :D

ESX and Rigoli are both 4EAT's and it was what I was trying to go for untill money became a subject :rolleyes:
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 05:08 PM

Also ESX was way into the 9's with a R160 diff as the auto is very easy on parts :banana:
gc835 08-24-2006 05:08 PM

i know a couple of shops to get a cage done. safty first for real
gt 42 too much lag without nitrous. it might get pulled during pre race negotsiasions. sorry i cant spell.
organization is key. maybe put 2-3 people in charge this way there is atleast some seperation of power. we need lists of donated parts, a build list of what need to be done and what parts are needed etc. a list of money donations.
lets do it guys.whats the forum evo.net??
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 05:11 PM

[URL=http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=216800]http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=216800[/URL]
hkerekes 08-24-2006 05:33 PM

If you lose you really LOSE your car. Its not a joke, Justin Bircham was on one episode in a mustang. The one where the other car broke the driveshaft and got one from some car in the parking lot. Well Justin won the car and didnt even give the driveshaft back he just loaded it up in his trailer and called it a day.
TheDocta 08-24-2006 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=O2wrx]If you lose you really LOSE your car. Its not a joke, Justin Bircham was on one episode in a mustang. The one where the other car broke the driveshaft and got one from some car in the parking lot. Well Justin won the car and didnt even give the driveshaft back he just loaded it up in his trailer and called it a day.[/QUOTE]

we know thats the point of pinks to race for pink slips

but if you win you win a car

its 50 50

and its a win either way because we can look at what we did, we get on national tv and prove that we are something great

We have to get this in order

im going to keep an updated list of what parts we have

and if i have time i will also write a letter of what i think we should send out to sponsors
TheDocta 08-24-2006 06:41 PM

What we have
This is a list of the confirmed components we have so far

n.a. 2.5 block-GotTurbo
Gutted 98 r.s. shelle- GC385
Wrx heads- 9vapors
Money-gerald06sti, modaddict
Steel tubing for roll cage- GC385

If you want to donate something but dont want to list your name send me a pm and i will add your donation to the project without your name

You can also donate things that we could sell that we might not be able to use on the car
Blk_on_Blk_Wgn 08-24-2006 07:15 PM

Has anyone contacted Nick???? ..I think if he posted some big announcements we could get more support..like someone already said maybe 1-2 bucks from alot of members would go a very long way towards getting this project really going..
TheDocta 08-24-2006 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=Blk_on_Blk_Wgn]Has anyone contacted Nick???? ..I think if he posted some big announcements we could get more support..like someone already said maybe 1-2 bucks from alot of members would go a very long way towards getting this project really going..[/QUOTE]

Ill contact him if i can figure out how 2
gc835 08-24-2006 07:40 PM

hey doc gc835
gc835 08-24-2006 07:40 PM

awsome response.
gc835 08-24-2006 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=wacerx]how about the OP starting a list of parts/services needed, people willing to help (once a build site is chosen), the time limit allowed on the build by pinks, what sponsors have hopped on to help and any other things i missed. this would make it much easier to check on the threads progress.

overall i think it would be a great idea to have a forum built car on there representing the subaru community. i would definitely pitch in a few bucks to make it happen. as someone said before, we must know what the guidlines are for pinks and our possible challengers like i-club or evom or maybe a privateer with a subie or evo.

make sure to keep us all updated[/QUOTE]
great ideas we need to get it going and get organized. i think that what wacerx said is a great way to do that. having the OP start a list
gc835 08-24-2006 07:45 PM

+11111 for an auto setup . easy on parts and builds a good amount of boost at line
TheDocta 08-24-2006 07:57 PM

We need to contact pinks

[url]http://www.speedtv.com/pinks/race_on_pinks.php[/url]

and I am working on writing a letter to send to our sponsors
silentbob343 08-24-2006 07:57 PM

Draft a project charter. I see way too many different ideas being thrown around.
TheDocta 08-24-2006 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=silentbob343]Draft a project charter. I see way too many ideas being thrown around.[/QUOTE]

I think that that is kind of hard because we dont know what turbo we have or what set up we have or what people are going to donate
silentbob343 08-24-2006 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]I think that that is kind of hard because we dont know what turbo we have or what set up we have or what people are going to donate[/QUOTE]
I understand this was an idea thread and just testing the waters/gauging interest. So perhaps I was a bit quick to interject. Just offering some helpful advice for when the project becomes a reality.

The most often citied reason for project failure is ill-defined requirements and objectives. ;)
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:13 PM

Here is a quick version of the letter i think we should send to companys to gain sponsorship, Dont flame it, i think we should write something like this, please give your input.

Dear Company,

We are writing you today as a community of car enthusiast asking for your help. We are a community of Subaru enthusiasts, that are members to one of the largest car forums on the internet, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club or NASIOC. The reason that we ask for your help today is because we are your customers that are your business and your lively hood. We are the ones that put your company�s name on our cars out of pride, so people will know to buy your quality parts. We are asking for you to give us something in return, a donation. I am sure you are wondering why we are asking for a donation and why you should give it to us. I am sure you are wondering what is in this donation for you. If you help us achieve our goal we will allow you to advertise on our car on national television. No not some small sticker that no one will notice, we will give you the hood, the trunk, or some other part of the car that will get your company noticed It will basically be a solid � hour with your name on national television for all to see. What better way is there to get your company�s name out there than on the most popular car show on television today. We are going to be appearing on the most popular car show on television �Pinks�. It is a show where you race for pink slips against another car. It is one of the most watched shows on television today. We as a community of car enthusiasts are building a car that will hopefully win on this show with our own money, but we can not do it on our own as building a race car tends to be a little bit pricey. We have turned to you for the source of our parts in the past and will continue to do so in the future but now we need your help. So please take some time to consider all that we have given you in the past and give us a little back. We promise it will pay off in the end.

Sincerely,
-The NASIOC Community


just a thought, let me know what you all think
aspiringrex 08-24-2006 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=silentbob343]
The most often citied reason for project failure is ill-defined requirements and objectives. ;)[/QUOTE]

Lets define away then? set up a plan and cast it in titanium? mmm?
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=silentbob343]The most often citied reason for project failure is ill-defined requirements and objectives. ;)[/QUOTE]

good point
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]Lets define away then? set up a plan and cast it in titanium? mmm?[/QUOTE]

hahaha

I dont think we have the money for that :(
aspiringrex 08-24-2006 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]hahaha

I dont think we have the money for that :([/QUOTE]

tee hee.... :( So im confused- Have you contacted the producers of Pinks and been promised an episode? the letter looks alright but we'd need conformation from the show first dontcha think?
520hpsti 08-24-2006 08:20 PM

If you tell them the car cant run properly without nitrous, they wont have you take it off during negotiations.
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]tee hee.... :( So im confused- Have you contacted the producers of Pinks and been promised an episode? the letter looks alright but we'd need conformation from the show first dontcha think?[/QUOTE]

yah but im hoping that we will get that soon because if we dont have it i doubt anyone will give us stuff

I cant be the one to contact pinks either so someone else has 2 do that
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=520hpsti]If you tell them the car cant run properly without nitrous, they wont have you take it off during negotiations.[/QUOTE]

you sure i have seen some cars really suck without it on
silentbob343 08-24-2006 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]tee hee.... :( So im confused- Have you contacted the producers of Pinks and been promised an episode? the letter looks alright but we'd need conformation from the show first dontcha think?[/QUOTE]
That's another touchy area. We/they/he contact the producers and they will set a deadline. I've heard of them giving extensions, but a short deadline will be another obstacle to overcome.

this is a tricky can of worms isn't it.
aspiringrex 08-24-2006 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]yah but im hoping that we will get that soon because if we dont have it i doubt anyone will give us stuff

I cant be the one to contact pinks either so someone else has 2 do that[/QUOTE]

- precisley.. ,, secondly- It looks as if your trying to take leadership of this project? WHERE's YOUR SUBARU?! lol- All I see is a Domestic rear wheeler-
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:22 PM

Your gonna need the Nitrous with the auto!
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=silentbob343]That's another touchy area. We/they/he contact the producers and they will set a deadline. I've heard of them giving extensions, but a short deadline will be another obstacle to overcome.

this is a tricky can of worms isn't it.[/QUOTE]

I think if we explain out situation they will extended it to a later date or maybe even season 5 if need be because they are starting to tape season 4 soon according to the sight
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:23 PM

To funny...I'm watching My Name Is Earl and it is the racing for [B]Pinks [/B] episode :lol:
520hpsti 08-24-2006 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]you sure i have seen some cars really suck without it on[/QUOTE]

from what i have seen when i watched the show, is that if one side says our car wont even run properly or at all without the nitrous, rich doesnt let the other side negotiate it off. i might be wrong though.
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]The Docta - precisley.. ,, secondly- It looks as if your trying to take leadership of this project? WHERE's YOUR SUBARU?! lol- All I see is a Domestic rear wheeler-[/QUOTE]

Um I dont want to take leadership, i nominated some one else, I am to young to be the leader here, and sorry i didnt have a choice of an sti as my first car

but that dosent mean i dont like subys

and if you want ill nominate you

I already said we should have the guy that started the thread be the leader 3 times

but ill nominate you I NOMINATE ASPIRINGREX TO BE THE LEADER OF THIS BUILD
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]but that dosent mean i dont like subys[/QUOTE]
Why are you here then :confused:
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:27 PM

[QUOTE=2002WRXSTi]Why are you here then :confused:[/QUOTE]

because i really like subys

all my friends have em

i just dont have the money to make one of them fast

or the money for one of them at all

i mean i go to all the local meets, in my area im known as a suby guy

i hang out with all the subys at the track

what more can i do?
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]because i really like subys

all my friends have em

i just dont have the money to make one of them fast

or the money for one of them at all

i mean i go to all the local meets, in my area im known as a suby guy

i hang out with all the subys at the track

what more can i do?[/QUOTE]
Read it to fast...sorry about that ;)
silentbob343 08-24-2006 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]- precisley.. ,, secondly- It looks as if your trying to take leadership of this project? WHERE's YOUR SUBARU?! lol- All I see is a Domestic rear wheeler-[/QUOTE]
nvm..
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=2002WRXSTi]Read it to fast...sorry about that ;)[/QUOTE]

no worries
silentbob343 08-24-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]I think if we explain out situation they will extended it to a later date or maybe even season 5 if need be because they are starting to tape season 4 soon according to the sight[/QUOTE]
That's cool I don't know how far they plan out.
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=silentbob343]I couldn't take leadership even if I wanted to. The project leader is going to need to somebody with plenty of experiece. Domestic rear wheeler?[/QUOTE]

I know suby techs that would be good leaders but there not on the forums much i mean i could nominate 20 kids with subarus

but idk if there good leaders for this

i figured might as well be the guy that started the thread
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Or [B]JUNIOR[/B] :devil: :lol:
silentbob343 08-24-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]I know suby techs that would be good leaders but there not on the forums much i mean i could nominate 20 kids with subarus

but idk if there good leaders for this

i figured might as well be the guy that started the thread[/QUOTE]
lol I thought he wrote that to me and then realized he quoted you. I edited my post.
oslice 08-24-2006 08:35 PM

They have done some episodes here in Arizona at speedworld.I knew some of the guys who raced.
aspiringrex 08-24-2006 08:36 PM

id be IMPRESSED if this project lifted without a PR manager, someone prove me wrong .. please
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=aspiringrex]id be IMPRESSED if this project lifted without a PR manager, someone prove me wrong .. please[/QUOTE]

why dont you step up and fill a roll

just dont say how were gonna suck without it
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=oslice]They have done some episodes here in Arizona at speedworld.I knew some of the guys who raced.[/QUOTE]

could you ask them for some insight about how its set up an especially with the 10k thing because thats a lot of money
2002WRXSTi 08-24-2006 08:40 PM

10k ain't squat for building a Subaru. Luckily a lot of donations are being made but a 4EAT is downright [B]EXPENSIVE!![/B] :eek:
aspiringrex 08-24-2006 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=TheDocta]why dont you step up and fill a roll

just dont say how were gonna suck without it[/QUOTE]

WELL, truth of the matter is.. this will all most likley suck without a PR- And PR's cost loads. I'm saying someone prove me wrong because it would take a lot of motivation to get around this without one/
TheDocta 08-24-2006 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=2002WRXSTi]10k ain't squat for building a Subaru. Luckily a lot of donations are being made but a 4EAT is downright [B]EXPENSIVE!![/B] :eek:[/QUOTE]

yah but its 10k closer than we are now

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