| Prosport Gauges | 01-12-2007 03:38 PM |
[QUOTE=rukkie;16633873][b]Prosport: [/b]I bought and installed the mechanical boost gauge and liked it, and bought the electornic version and installed it today. Somehow the shroud that came with it is way loose and slides around unlike the mechnical one that fits snuggly. I swapped the shrouds around and it appears the two plastic pieces are the same. Somehow the electornic one has a slightly smaller circumference? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
It shouldn't make a difference, once the gauge is snugged up from the rear with the U-Bracket ??
It shouldn't make a difference, once the gauge is snugged up from the rear with the U-Bracket ??
| Prosport Gauges | 01-12-2007 04:02 PM |
[QUOTE=98skuby;16631063]when will there be green/white - a/f and voltmeter gauges? i like what i see and hear (for the most part).
and would there be any chance of a digital speedo in 52mm and green/white?
james[/QUOTE]
Yes green/white A/F and volt are coming soon. Digital speedo-NO, but analog Speedo 200mph in 2 5/8 will be coming out.
and would there be any chance of a digital speedo in 52mm and green/white?
james[/QUOTE]
Yes green/white A/F and volt are coming soon. Digital speedo-NO, but analog Speedo 200mph in 2 5/8 will be coming out.
| 98skuby | 01-12-2007 05:54 PM |
ah good. i be checking back with your web site untill it comes out.
thanks for fast reply.
james
thanks for fast reply.
james
| rukkie | 01-12-2007 07:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Prosport Gauges;16643743]It shouldn't make a difference, once the gauge is snugged up from the rear with the U-Bracket ??[/QUOTE]
I'm using the autometer CF cup. The shroud fits very snuggly to the mechanical gauge and there's no play at all once it's slided all the way in; versus the electronic one for some reasons has too much play and it flies around silly. I think I might end up using some clue or wrap electrical tape to see if i can get it to stay.
update 1-15-07: I put electric tape around the rim of the gauge, and got the shroud to stay. It doesn't look perfect if you look closely, but it works I guess.. :)
I'm using the autometer CF cup. The shroud fits very snuggly to the mechanical gauge and there's no play at all once it's slided all the way in; versus the electronic one for some reasons has too much play and it flies around silly. I think I might end up using some clue or wrap electrical tape to see if i can get it to stay.
update 1-15-07: I put electric tape around the rim of the gauge, and got the shroud to stay. It doesn't look perfect if you look closely, but it works I guess.. :)
| El Supremo | 01-15-2007 08:37 PM |
Hello Prosport,
I'd like to order the Amber/White 60mm Oil Pressure Gauge and 60mm EGT gauge. Your website states that all mounting hardware in included, is this the same Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder I received when I bought my Prosport 60mm boost gauge?
The Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder is fine, I just want to know if I have to buy anything extra (pods, cups whatever).
Thanks,
Supremo
I'd like to order the Amber/White 60mm Oil Pressure Gauge and 60mm EGT gauge. Your website states that all mounting hardware in included, is this the same Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder I received when I bought my Prosport 60mm boost gauge?
The Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder is fine, I just want to know if I have to buy anything extra (pods, cups whatever).
Thanks,
Supremo
| p8baller07 | 01-16-2007 02:17 AM |
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I have Boost, EGT, and Oil pressure.
Great gauges, are white when the headlamps are off and green when they're flipped on :P
I have Boost, EGT, and Oil pressure.
Great gauges, are white when the headlamps are off and green when they're flipped on :P
| Prosport Gauges | 01-16-2007 01:03 PM |
[QUOTE=El Supremo;16676565]Hello Prosport,
I'd like to order the Amber/White 60mm Oil Pressure Gauge and 60mm EGT gauge. Your website states that all mounting hardware in included, is this the same Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder I received when I bought my Prosport 60mm boost gauge?
The Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder is fine, I just want to know if I have to buy anything extra (pods, cups whatever).
Thanks,
Supremo[/QUOTE]
You brought up a good point, the new Amber/White 60mm gauges are stepped down to accommodate both 60mm and 52 mm pods. So the hardware that is included is the U-Bracket and nuts and washers to hold the gauge in a pod or dash. If you want a cup or strap that is extra.
I'd like to order the Amber/White 60mm Oil Pressure Gauge and 60mm EGT gauge. Your website states that all mounting hardware in included, is this the same Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder I received when I bought my Prosport 60mm boost gauge?
The Mounting Bracket/Band Strap Holder is fine, I just want to know if I have to buy anything extra (pods, cups whatever).
Thanks,
Supremo[/QUOTE]
You brought up a good point, the new Amber/White 60mm gauges are stepped down to accommodate both 60mm and 52 mm pods. So the hardware that is included is the U-Bracket and nuts and washers to hold the gauge in a pod or dash. If you want a cup or strap that is extra.
| El Supremo | 01-16-2007 06:00 PM |
Hello,
I sent a U.S Postal Money Order for $176.24 to Prosport Gauges for the 60mm amber/white EGT and Oil Pressure gauges. MO sent 1st class via the United States Post Office this morning, Tuesday 1/16. I'll pass on the cups for awhile. The one's I wanted (black 52mm) shown on your webpage are currently listed as "sold-out". I might buy a dual-pod pillar mount here locally or wait a couple weeks and purchase the Prosport strap mounts since I don't plan on installing the gauges until the middle of February and I'm still not sure where I'm goin' put em'.
Thanks,
Supremo
I sent a U.S Postal Money Order for $176.24 to Prosport Gauges for the 60mm amber/white EGT and Oil Pressure gauges. MO sent 1st class via the United States Post Office this morning, Tuesday 1/16. I'll pass on the cups for awhile. The one's I wanted (black 52mm) shown on your webpage are currently listed as "sold-out". I might buy a dual-pod pillar mount here locally or wait a couple weeks and purchase the Prosport strap mounts since I don't plan on installing the gauges until the middle of February and I'm still not sure where I'm goin' put em'.
Thanks,
Supremo
| Trigun001 | 01-16-2007 06:45 PM |
Prosport,
Just wondering If I were to connect the color changing wires to a single pole double throw switch so I could change colors while driving and also have the gauge light up red only, will keeping a constant power running to one or another wire that changes the color (never both at the same time) cause more wear on the electromagnetic switch that causes the colors to change? Im assuming not because for night time driving there is a constant power running through the gauge to keep it one color or another.
Just wondering If I were to connect the color changing wires to a single pole double throw switch so I could change colors while driving and also have the gauge light up red only, will keeping a constant power running to one or another wire that changes the color (never both at the same time) cause more wear on the electromagnetic switch that causes the colors to change? Im assuming not because for night time driving there is a constant power running through the gauge to keep it one color or another.
| SilverFleet | 01-16-2007 07:12 PM |
I just installed some 52mm Prosport gauges yesterday in an ATI clock pod, and I really like them. I got the green and white oil pressure, mechanical boost, and EGT. I haven't hooked up the EGT yet because I'm doing an uppipe install soon and I will tap the manifold then. The other two are great though, they are really accurate. They are bright, but it doesn't bother me much. The only problem I had installing them was with the oil sandwich adapter I got from Maddad. The adapter is nice, but the oil sending unit is huge, and I had to move a piece of the exhaust heatshield for it to fit. They are great for the money!
| Sparcomx | 01-16-2007 07:29 PM |
I have the green boost, oil temp, and egt in my wrx.. These gauges are so dam brite i want to rip them off and throw them out the window.. Turst me.. its like having a flash light with all three of them on the dash.. so much briter then the dash.. I want a fix for this.. some kind of dimmer.. Trust me it gets anoying..
--George..
--George..
| G3Red04WRX | 01-16-2007 08:14 PM |
Yes, they are quite bright. Bright enough to want to throw them out? Come on. If they are that bad, sell them off for something else.
BTW, you can not "dim" led gauges. More expensive gauges use stepped led lights for brightness control. If you want a dimmer green, you have to disassmeble the gauge and either darken the green leds, or mask off a few of them and risk hotspotting on the gauge face.
Aside from the brightness of the gauges, they do work great and are very accurate. However, i notice that at rest, my electrical boost gauge reads between 0 and 1 psi of pressure, but reads correctly while in use. Its slightly annoying but since i dont stare at it when the car isnt running, its no big deal.
BTW, you can not "dim" led gauges. More expensive gauges use stepped led lights for brightness control. If you want a dimmer green, you have to disassmeble the gauge and either darken the green leds, or mask off a few of them and risk hotspotting on the gauge face.
Aside from the brightness of the gauges, they do work great and are very accurate. However, i notice that at rest, my electrical boost gauge reads between 0 and 1 psi of pressure, but reads correctly while in use. Its slightly annoying but since i dont stare at it when the car isnt running, its no big deal.
| ruggedman | 01-16-2007 10:45 PM |
I've got a question, with all of these issues with the gauges being too bright, i'm really not considering these any more. Although if i go with the mechanical version of the boost guage I could just put a pot on the 12V in to dim them. True?
| Sparcomx | 01-17-2007 07:31 PM |
[QUOTE=ruggedman;16693290]I've got a question, with all of these issues with the gauges being too bright, i'm really not considering these any more. Although if i go with the mechanical version of the boost guage I could just put a pot on the 12V in to dim them. True?[/QUOTE]
There is a post around here saying its not posible with these..
There is a post around here saying its not posible with these..
| El Supremo | 01-17-2007 08:05 PM |
[QUOTE=FleaDog;16235283]damn that car is dirty!
Dan - Put together a group buy for the 60mm series... people here, and on iwsti.com would be ALL over it...
FYI - you can email prosport & they will give nasioc members 10% off
LATE[/QUOTE]
"You brought up a good point, the new Amber/White 60mm gauges are stepped down to accommodate both 60mm and 52 mm pods. So the hardware that is included is the U-Bracket and nuts and washers to hold the gauge in a pod or dash. If you want a cup or strap that is extra".
Prosport Gauges-Post #247
Hi Glenn,
According to Fleadog on the NASIOC and IWSTI forums, if I mention I'm a member of the NASIOC forum I get 10% off my gauge purchase. My username is "El Supremo" on the NASICO forum and "Supremo" on the IWSTI forum. My purchase was for $176.24 for the two gauges @ 10% off= $17.62.
Proposal:
1. Send me two 52mm mounting straps (2 @ $8.99= $17.99) and I'll sent you the balance of 37 cents.
or
2. Send me two 52mm black mounting cups (2 @ $7.99= $15.99) when they're back in stock and we'll call it even.
Supremo
Dan - Put together a group buy for the 60mm series... people here, and on iwsti.com would be ALL over it...
FYI - you can email prosport & they will give nasioc members 10% off
LATE[/QUOTE]
"You brought up a good point, the new Amber/White 60mm gauges are stepped down to accommodate both 60mm and 52 mm pods. So the hardware that is included is the U-Bracket and nuts and washers to hold the gauge in a pod or dash. If you want a cup or strap that is extra".
Prosport Gauges-Post #247
Hi Glenn,
According to Fleadog on the NASIOC and IWSTI forums, if I mention I'm a member of the NASIOC forum I get 10% off my gauge purchase. My username is "El Supremo" on the NASICO forum and "Supremo" on the IWSTI forum. My purchase was for $176.24 for the two gauges @ 10% off= $17.62.
Proposal:
1. Send me two 52mm mounting straps (2 @ $8.99= $17.99) and I'll sent you the balance of 37 cents.
or
2. Send me two 52mm black mounting cups (2 @ $7.99= $15.99) when they're back in stock and we'll call it even.
Supremo
| Mach V Dan | 01-19-2007 12:07 PM |
[QUOTE=ruggedman;16693290]I've got a question, with all of these issues with the gauges being too bright, i'm really not considering these any more. Although if i go with the mechanical version of the boost guage I could just put a pot on the 12V in to dim them. True?[/QUOTE]
All the gauges are LED illuminated, so you cannot use a potentiometer to dim them. The lighting level tries to strike a balance between being visible during the day, and not being too bright at night. It would cost more -- much more -- to have different lighting levels or adjustable brightness. For many of our customers, the biggest draw of the Prosport gauges is the feature-to-price ratio is so good. You can't have everything -- the only gauge that I know of that has ALL the features I can think of is the Defi BF, and that costs $200+ per gauge.
--Dan
Mach V
[url=www.fastwrx.com]FastWRX.com[/url]
All the gauges are LED illuminated, so you cannot use a potentiometer to dim them. The lighting level tries to strike a balance between being visible during the day, and not being too bright at night. It would cost more -- much more -- to have different lighting levels or adjustable brightness. For many of our customers, the biggest draw of the Prosport gauges is the feature-to-price ratio is so good. You can't have everything -- the only gauge that I know of that has ALL the features I can think of is the Defi BF, and that costs $200+ per gauge.
--Dan
Mach V
[url=www.fastwrx.com]FastWRX.com[/url]
| Wannascooby | 01-19-2007 03:18 PM |
[QUOTE=Sparcomx;16706100]There is a post around here saying its not posible with these..[/QUOTE]
Someone had opened their gauges and colored the led's in with a sharpie. He said it match the interior perfectly...
I like the idea of color match,but breaking them open...:o I still have a one year warranty on them
Someone had opened their gauges and colored the led's in with a sharpie. He said it match the interior perfectly...
I like the idea of color match,but breaking them open...:o I still have a one year warranty on them
| Ziggyrama | 01-19-2007 03:32 PM |
I've been driving around with these gauges for months now and I have to tell you that the brightness is just right. If they were dimmer, you'd have a hard time reading them during the day. At night, they look awesome and since the colors match (white/green) they really look great. I would not make it a deal breaker. They perform very well and are a phenominal deal for the money.
| rukkie | 01-19-2007 09:12 PM |
posted some pics over here: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1180348[/url]
You'll see from one of the 3 pictures that the prosport is quite a bit brighter than the stock cluster to be honest with you. I've been driving around with the mechanical version for months before switching over to the electronic one. I bought them knowing they're brighter, and it took me a few drives to get used to coming from the dim stock tiny gauge. After a while, it doesn't bother me a bit... if somebody tells u they're blinding bright, they seriously need to check their eyes. :-)
Here's one of the pic for the lazy: [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/hermanau/362318692/][img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/362318692_b66d432933_s.jpg[/img][/url]
You'll see from one of the 3 pictures that the prosport is quite a bit brighter than the stock cluster to be honest with you. I've been driving around with the mechanical version for months before switching over to the electronic one. I bought them knowing they're brighter, and it took me a few drives to get used to coming from the dim stock tiny gauge. After a while, it doesn't bother me a bit... if somebody tells u they're blinding bright, they seriously need to check their eyes. :-)
Here's one of the pic for the lazy: [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/hermanau/362318692/][img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/362318692_b66d432933_s.jpg[/img][/url]
| Nicholas Mouyos | 01-19-2007 09:31 PM |
i want green/white 60mm :(
| andykinnen | 01-20-2007 07:15 PM |
10 pages of satisfied subie owners, they've got me convinced
| Trigun001 | 01-20-2007 07:56 PM |
why not sharpie the green leds and use the white during the day? problem solved.
| rukkie | 01-20-2007 08:35 PM |
[QUOTE=Trigun001;16744998]why not sharpie the green leds and use the white during the day? problem solved.[/QUOTE]
we don't want to take them apart to void warranty unless absolute necessary
we don't want to take them apart to void warranty unless absolute necessary
| Staples | 01-20-2007 09:38 PM |
I have the boost/oil pressure - they are sweet!
| G3Red04WRX | 01-20-2007 10:23 PM |
Ok, either Prosport, or Mach V Dan needs to contact me or quote me and provide an answer to this.
I got my EGT sensor and Oil Pressure sender (in a Prosport sandwich) installed today. Let the car warm up at idle for a few minutes, then took the dog for a drive so he could feel the breeze in his face while i checked to make sure the gauges did their thing correctly.
EGT works like a freakin charm, perfect and reads just about where its supposed to at idle, curising, and WOT. My cars exhaust temps are diagnosed as quite normal. This makes me happy.
Elec.Boost gauge was already installed and shown to be quite accurate comparing the readings to my AccessPORT live boost reading. At rest when there is no pressure (engine not running) the gauge reads just below 1 psi, but when running, the gauge is almost dead on. No biggie, works like its supposed to when it is doing its job.
Now, my question, on the Elec. Oil Pressure gauge...
Oil pressure reads 100 psi on cold start, and will work its way down to about 40-50 psi once everything is up to temperature sitting at idle. This is great and tells me that the car is running normal. However, when i get in gear, whether just cruising or getting on the throttle a bit, the gauge will stay between 95 and 100 psi regardless of what i am doing. It is almost ALWAYS reading between 98 and 100 psi when im in gear over 1500 rpms on the tach. Is this normal? It seems awfully high. Even when i am in gear and just crusing along at 1500 rpms with no other load than keeping the car moving, it just barely gets down into the low 80 psi range. As soon as i let off the clutch and coast, oil pressure drops down into the 40-50 psi range again. Is the 2.0l motor really that pressurized when the car is in gear, or do i maybe have a faulty sender unit thats reading too high when there is more than 50 psi? Ive never had a car before my WRX that had an oil pressure gauge showing me such high readings under normal driving once the engine was up to temp and it concerns me it might be something is causing faulty readings. I am using 16 gauge insulated wiring for the signal and ground wires, with a pair of spade connectors on the 2 prongs. Some advice on what might be wrong, or if this is completely normal, would be nice to easy my suspicions that something might not be normal with the gauge or sender unit.
Other than this oil pressure reading issue, i absolutely LOVE these gauges. Yea, they are a little bright, but ive color matched my stereo to be just as bright so they dont look out of place as much. And when my CarPC screen is on, its brighter than the gauges in the navigation screen, so they dont look as bright as normal. I will probably crack them open once the warranty is up and dim the green leds with some tint film, but for now, they work great, look great, and were just the right price.
I got my EGT sensor and Oil Pressure sender (in a Prosport sandwich) installed today. Let the car warm up at idle for a few minutes, then took the dog for a drive so he could feel the breeze in his face while i checked to make sure the gauges did their thing correctly.
EGT works like a freakin charm, perfect and reads just about where its supposed to at idle, curising, and WOT. My cars exhaust temps are diagnosed as quite normal. This makes me happy.
Elec.Boost gauge was already installed and shown to be quite accurate comparing the readings to my AccessPORT live boost reading. At rest when there is no pressure (engine not running) the gauge reads just below 1 psi, but when running, the gauge is almost dead on. No biggie, works like its supposed to when it is doing its job.
Now, my question, on the Elec. Oil Pressure gauge...
Oil pressure reads 100 psi on cold start, and will work its way down to about 40-50 psi once everything is up to temperature sitting at idle. This is great and tells me that the car is running normal. However, when i get in gear, whether just cruising or getting on the throttle a bit, the gauge will stay between 95 and 100 psi regardless of what i am doing. It is almost ALWAYS reading between 98 and 100 psi when im in gear over 1500 rpms on the tach. Is this normal? It seems awfully high. Even when i am in gear and just crusing along at 1500 rpms with no other load than keeping the car moving, it just barely gets down into the low 80 psi range. As soon as i let off the clutch and coast, oil pressure drops down into the 40-50 psi range again. Is the 2.0l motor really that pressurized when the car is in gear, or do i maybe have a faulty sender unit thats reading too high when there is more than 50 psi? Ive never had a car before my WRX that had an oil pressure gauge showing me such high readings under normal driving once the engine was up to temp and it concerns me it might be something is causing faulty readings. I am using 16 gauge insulated wiring for the signal and ground wires, with a pair of spade connectors on the 2 prongs. Some advice on what might be wrong, or if this is completely normal, would be nice to easy my suspicions that something might not be normal with the gauge or sender unit.
Other than this oil pressure reading issue, i absolutely LOVE these gauges. Yea, they are a little bright, but ive color matched my stereo to be just as bright so they dont look out of place as much. And when my CarPC screen is on, its brighter than the gauges in the navigation screen, so they dont look as bright as normal. I will probably crack them open once the warranty is up and dim the green leds with some tint film, but for now, they work great, look great, and were just the right price.
| Trigun001 | 01-21-2007 01:40 PM |
I finally got around to installing by sandwhich plate the other day when I changed my oil. Honestly I moved that stupid pressure 3 times and swung the plate around but couldnt find a good fit. In fact the only place I could get it to fit was right inbetween the Oil basin and the header heat shielding. There is a cooler place that looked better to me but I couldnt get it to fit there. Anyone have pictures showing a better method? Ima go wire it up now and check for leaks.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-21-2007 04:50 PM |
[QUOTE=Trigun001;16750651]I finally got around to installing by sandwhich plate the other day when I changed my oil. Honestly I moved that stupid pressure 3 times and swung the plate around but couldnt find a good fit. In fact the only place I could get it to fit was right inbetween the Oil basin and the header heat shielding. There is a cooler place that looked better to me but I couldnt get it to fit there. Anyone have pictures showing a better method? Ima go wire it up now and check for leaks.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the exact same way i got mine to fit. Had to use the left hole on the end of the adaptor, and had to tighten the sandwich down with the sender unit about 1/8" or so from the oil pan to stay away from the heatshield. I put spade connectors on the end of my wiring so it would be easier to attach the wires while under the car upsidedown. I dont think there is any other way to mount the sender + sandwich adaptor combo cause i spent about 15 minutes trying every combination and the one you describe was the only one that actually fit well enough without having to make any additional modifications.
Sounds like the exact same way i got mine to fit. Had to use the left hole on the end of the adaptor, and had to tighten the sandwich down with the sender unit about 1/8" or so from the oil pan to stay away from the heatshield. I put spade connectors on the end of my wiring so it would be easier to attach the wires while under the car upsidedown. I dont think there is any other way to mount the sender + sandwich adaptor combo cause i spent about 15 minutes trying every combination and the one you describe was the only one that actually fit well enough without having to make any additional modifications.
| twizhimself | 01-21-2007 04:54 PM |
[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16746084]
Now, my question, on the Elec. Oil Pressure gauge...
Oil pressure reads 100 psi on cold start, and will work its way down to about 40-50 psi once everything is up to temperature sitting at idle. This is great and tells me that the car is running normal. However, when i get in gear, whether just cruising or getting on the throttle a bit, the gauge will stay between 95 and 100 psi regardless of what i am doing. It is almost ALWAYS reading between 98 and 100 psi when im in gear over 1500 rpms on the tach. Is this normal? It seems awfully high. Even when i am in gear and just crusing along at 1500 rpms with no other load than keeping the car moving, it just barely gets down into the low 80 psi range. As soon as i let off the clutch and coast, oil pressure drops down into the 40-50 psi range again. Is the 2.0l motor really that pressurized when the car is in gear, or do i maybe have a faulty sender unit thats reading too high when there is more than 50 psi? Ive never had a car before my WRX that had an oil pressure gauge showing me such high readings under normal driving once the engine was up to temp and it concerns me it might be something is causing faulty readings. I am using 16 gauge insulated wiring for the signal and ground wires, with a pair of spade connectors on the 2 prongs. Some advice on what might be wrong, or if this is completely normal, would be nice to easy my suspicions that something might not be normal with the gauge or sender unit.[/QUOTE]
subies should be in the area you're reading....no worries
Now, my question, on the Elec. Oil Pressure gauge...
Oil pressure reads 100 psi on cold start, and will work its way down to about 40-50 psi once everything is up to temperature sitting at idle. This is great and tells me that the car is running normal. However, when i get in gear, whether just cruising or getting on the throttle a bit, the gauge will stay between 95 and 100 psi regardless of what i am doing. It is almost ALWAYS reading between 98 and 100 psi when im in gear over 1500 rpms on the tach. Is this normal? It seems awfully high. Even when i am in gear and just crusing along at 1500 rpms with no other load than keeping the car moving, it just barely gets down into the low 80 psi range. As soon as i let off the clutch and coast, oil pressure drops down into the 40-50 psi range again. Is the 2.0l motor really that pressurized when the car is in gear, or do i maybe have a faulty sender unit thats reading too high when there is more than 50 psi? Ive never had a car before my WRX that had an oil pressure gauge showing me such high readings under normal driving once the engine was up to temp and it concerns me it might be something is causing faulty readings. I am using 16 gauge insulated wiring for the signal and ground wires, with a pair of spade connectors on the 2 prongs. Some advice on what might be wrong, or if this is completely normal, would be nice to easy my suspicions that something might not be normal with the gauge or sender unit.[/QUOTE]
subies should be in the area you're reading....no worries
| Trigun001 | 01-21-2007 07:09 PM |
[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16752254]Sounds like the exact same way i got mine to fit. Had to use the left hole on the end of the adaptor, and had to tighten the sandwich down with the sender unit about 1/8" or so from the oil pan to stay away from the heatshield. I put spade connectors on the end of my wiring so it would be easier to attach the wires while under the car upsidedown. I dont think there is any other way to mount the sender + sandwich adaptor combo cause i spent about 15 minutes trying every combination and the one you describe was the only one that actually fit well enough without having to make any additional modifications.[/QUOTE]
There were two things that worried me about this setup. I didnt like that the sticker and the plastic screw on pieces were so close to the headers heatshield. Hopefully something that wont come back and bight me in the arse.
There were two things that worried me about this setup. I didnt like that the sticker and the plastic screw on pieces were so close to the headers heatshield. Hopefully something that wont come back and bight me in the arse.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-21-2007 07:23 PM |
thats what the heatshields are for. They help keep the excessive heat inside with the manifold castings. Im not worried about it.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-21-2007 07:26 PM |
[QUOTE=twizhimself;16752285]subies should be in the area you're reading....no worries[/QUOTE]
So a 2.0l turbo will more or less ALWAYS read between 98-100 psi fully warmed up while in gear? This just doesnt seem to make sense to me. It seems like the oil pressure is reading way to high or something is wrong with my sender unit to make the gauge read so high under load. In neutral it reads correctly around 40psi. There just doesnt seem to be any pressure variant between in gear and out of gear (if that makes sense) I mean, shouldnt there be less oil pressure at 2k rpms in gear than there are at 6k rpms in gear?
So a 2.0l turbo will more or less ALWAYS read between 98-100 psi fully warmed up while in gear? This just doesnt seem to make sense to me. It seems like the oil pressure is reading way to high or something is wrong with my sender unit to make the gauge read so high under load. In neutral it reads correctly around 40psi. There just doesnt seem to be any pressure variant between in gear and out of gear (if that makes sense) I mean, shouldnt there be less oil pressure at 2k rpms in gear than there are at 6k rpms in gear?
| bushflyr | 01-22-2007 12:26 PM |
[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16753830]So a 2.0l turbo will more or less ALWAYS read between 98-100 psi fully warmed up while in gear? This just doesnt seem to make sense to me. It seems like the oil pressure is reading way to high or something is wrong with my sender unit to make the gauge read so high under load. In neutral it reads correctly around 40psi. There just doesnt seem to be any pressure variant between in gear and out of gear (if that makes sense) I mean, shouldnt there be less oil pressure at 2k rpms in gear than there are at 6k rpms in gear?[/QUOTE]
Where did you mount your sender? Subies do run pretty high on the oil pressure though. I've got a SPA gauge tapped into the top oil galley and it fluctuates from 25psi at idle to 110 or so at redline. Generally cruising it's in the 60-80 range. Your non-fluctuation sounds a bit odd.
Where did you mount your sender? Subies do run pretty high on the oil pressure though. I've got a SPA gauge tapped into the top oil galley and it fluctuates from 25psi at idle to 110 or so at redline. Generally cruising it's in the 60-80 range. Your non-fluctuation sounds a bit odd.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-22-2007 06:45 PM |
Sender is mounted into the sandwich adaptor (also a prosport piece) between the block and oil filter. The gauge reads fine when the car is in neutral (between 30 and 45 psi warmed up) and will ALWAYS stay above 80 psi in gear regardless how slow the engine is running. It could be in gear, idleing along and still read over 80psi. Once i get the revs over 1500, forget about it even moving, it sticks right between 98 and 102 psi. Im still not convinced anything is defective, but really on the fence about contacting prosport directly for a replacement sender to see if thats what is at fault here.
| squashman | 01-22-2007 09:11 PM |
Does anyone's "Premium" Oil Pressure jerk all over the place? I think my sender may be bad.
It's movements aren't smooth "sweeps," but jerky "steps." At idle, it hovers around 30PSI and twitches around there. At constant throttle (around 80-90mph highway driving), it jerks from 90 to 60 to 90 etc. I'm guessing that oil pressure doesn't do that :lol: and that the gauge is not working properly.
Anyone else experience this? Does it sound like a sender problem?
Thanks!
It's movements aren't smooth "sweeps," but jerky "steps." At idle, it hovers around 30PSI and twitches around there. At constant throttle (around 80-90mph highway driving), it jerks from 90 to 60 to 90 etc. I'm guessing that oil pressure doesn't do that :lol: and that the gauge is not working properly.
Anyone else experience this? Does it sound like a sender problem?
Thanks!
| G3Red04WRX | 01-22-2007 09:28 PM |
Sounds like your problem could be a bad connection on one of the wires on your sender. Double check to make sure you have a good solid connection on both the signal and ground wires at both ends of the wires, and that there are no crimps or breaks in either of your signal wires. See if that helps any. Other than that, the "twitchy" thing is normal at low pressure, but the jerking back and forth 30psi while at a constant speed is not normal.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-25-2007 06:44 PM |
Well, my problem seems to have sorted itself out somewhat. Now, once the car is up to temp, the oil pressure will read between 85 and 103 psi depending on rpms. at idle in getting between 30 and 40 psi at temp. Cold starting this gauge is uesless other than to say hey, the needle is peaked out, and not on 0, so yea you have oil still... Disaster averted, and no worries at this point that i need to RMA my oil pressure gauge.
On another note, does anyone else notice that the electrical oil pressure gauge does not return to 0 during the self test at power on? Is this the way its supposed to be or is my gauge not operating correctly?
On another note, does anyone else notice that the electrical oil pressure gauge does not return to 0 during the self test at power on? Is this the way its supposed to be or is my gauge not operating correctly?
| Prosport Gauges | 01-25-2007 09:03 PM |
When the gauge opens then pegs out -the gauge is in default mode. programmed to do so when there is an open short/circuit. maybe your ground is no good, maybe your sender is not grounded seperately, maybe your wire is loose behind the gauge, maybe the wire is chaffed through where it goes through the firewall.
If you have checked all these items, feel free to send the sender back to us for testing and/or replacement.
If you have checked all these items, feel free to send the sender back to us for testing and/or replacement.
| G3Red04WRX | 01-25-2007 10:43 PM |
[QUOTE=Prosport Gauges;16812928]When the gauge opens then pegs out -the gauge is in default mode. programmed to do so when there is an open short/circuit. maybe your ground is no good, maybe your sender is not grounded seperately, maybe your wire is loose behind the gauge, maybe the wire is chaffed through where it goes through the firewall.
If you have checked all these items, feel free to send the sender back to us for testing and/or replacement.[/QUOTE]
Its not that, the gauge works properly, its just that the opening squence on my EGT and Boost will both sweep to max, and then back to 0 before going where they are meant to. The Oil Pressure just sweeps to max, and then backs off the the actual signal without zero-ing out first like the other 2 gauges. As far as i can tell, aside from this, it is operating correctly. Obviously if i turn the car on but dont start the engine, the oil pressure will sweep to peak, and then back to 0 since there is 0 oil pressure at the time. Im just wondering if anyone elses elect. oil pressure gauge does this or if its just mine.
If you have checked all these items, feel free to send the sender back to us for testing and/or replacement.[/QUOTE]
Its not that, the gauge works properly, its just that the opening squence on my EGT and Boost will both sweep to max, and then back to 0 before going where they are meant to. The Oil Pressure just sweeps to max, and then backs off the the actual signal without zero-ing out first like the other 2 gauges. As far as i can tell, aside from this, it is operating correctly. Obviously if i turn the car on but dont start the engine, the oil pressure will sweep to peak, and then back to 0 since there is 0 oil pressure at the time. Im just wondering if anyone elses elect. oil pressure gauge does this or if its just mine.
| bump909 | 01-26-2007 12:00 PM |
[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16691460]
BTW, you can not "dim" led gauges. More expensive gauges use stepped led lights for brightness control. If you want a dimmer green, you have to disassmeble the gauge and either darken the green leds, or mask off a few of them and risk hotspotting on the gauge face.[/QUOTE]
i'm not sure i understand why this can't be done. so it's not as simple as tapping into the car's dimmer switch? i was able to do this with my relatively inexpensive VDO gauges on my Golf. I was also using LED bulbs.
BTW, you can not "dim" led gauges. More expensive gauges use stepped led lights for brightness control. If you want a dimmer green, you have to disassmeble the gauge and either darken the green leds, or mask off a few of them and risk hotspotting on the gauge face.[/QUOTE]
i'm not sure i understand why this can't be done. so it's not as simple as tapping into the car's dimmer switch? i was able to do this with my relatively inexpensive VDO gauges on my Golf. I was also using LED bulbs.
| Mechie3 | 01-26-2007 12:43 PM |
The illumination LED power supply is tied into the sender's power supply for simplicity/cost reduction. Reducing power to the LED's has the unwanted effect of reducing the voltage for the sender resulting in improper readings.
| bump909 | 01-26-2007 04:57 PM |
thanks for the explanation, mechie. :cool:
| Trigun001 | 01-27-2007 02:01 AM |
what if one were to run the senders power off of a different power supply not coming from the gauge? (with the right resistance?)
| KestrelSi | 01-27-2007 02:38 AM |
Well, you would have to dissect your gauge to do that, and quite frankly I don't really have the patience for it.
I played around with my Prosport electric boost gauge tonight, and basically, it seems that on power on, the LED lead that has power to it becomes the default color. So, if neither are wired, the gauge is red, if white is wired the gauge is white, and if orange the gauge is green. If you then disconnect all the LED wires, the gauge reverts to that default color. The color wire are nothing more than relay inputs.
So, I ended up ordering a Maddad and am planning on selling the Prosport.
I played around with my Prosport electric boost gauge tonight, and basically, it seems that on power on, the LED lead that has power to it becomes the default color. So, if neither are wired, the gauge is red, if white is wired the gauge is white, and if orange the gauge is green. If you then disconnect all the LED wires, the gauge reverts to that default color. The color wire are nothing more than relay inputs.
So, I ended up ordering a Maddad and am planning on selling the Prosport.
| [email�protected] | 01-27-2007 12:26 PM |
My premium boost gauge pegs to -30 hg, ive double and triple checked all wiring. No "beeping or flashing mode" to indicate a wiring fault. Bad sender or gauge? Is the black wire under the clock a good ground?
| taedaug | 01-27-2007 01:05 PM |
[[email�protected];16831291]My premium boost gauge pegs to -30 hg, ive double and triple checked all wiring. No "beeping or flashing mode" to indicate a wiring fault. Bad sender or gauge? Is the black wire under the clock a good ground?[/QUOTE]
The ground I issued was the nut/bolts above the fuse box.
The ground I issued was the nut/bolts above the fuse box.
| [email�protected] | 01-27-2007 05:39 PM |
[[email�protected];16831291]My premium boost gauge pegs to -30 hg, ive double and triple checked all wiring. No "beeping or flashing mode" to indicate a wiring fault. Bad sender or gauge? Is the black wire under the clock a good ground?[/QUOTE]
Any other ideas?
Any other ideas?
| Cation | 01-28-2007 06:02 PM |
Has anyone tried to fit these in a WRXTRA gauge pod yet?
| JiveMasterT | 01-28-2007 06:07 PM |
What pod is that?
| orion421 | 01-28-2007 11:47 PM |
I tapped my egt probe on the drivers side manifold. anyone know what i should be reading there? at idle im getting about 9, anything higher than idle it shoots up to between 14 and 1500, ecutek reflash to stage 1 and a cat back are the only mods
| Ziggyrama | 01-29-2007 09:43 AM |
[QUOTE=orion421;16844651]I tapped my egt probe on the drivers side manifold. anyone know what i should be reading there? at idle im getting about 9, anything higher than idle it shoots up to between 14 and 1500, ecutek reflash to stage 1 and a cat back are the only mods[/QUOTE]
It sounds right to me. Your idle temps are right where mine are. As far as non-idle, there will always be variations. Your EGTs are dependant on your AFR and timing but 1400-1500 is about right. It's actually good place to bee. You don't want to venture pat 1600 but running too cold is a bad thing too. I think you're in good shape considering you have all your cats in place.
It sounds right to me. Your idle temps are right where mine are. As far as non-idle, there will always be variations. Your EGTs are dependant on your AFR and timing but 1400-1500 is about right. It's actually good place to bee. You don't want to venture pat 1600 but running too cold is a bad thing too. I think you're in good shape considering you have all your cats in place.
| Cation | 01-29-2007 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE=JiveMasterT;16841386]What pod is that?[/QUOTE]
This one:
[url]http://www.wrxtra.com/[/url]
dimensions of face plate:
[url]http://www.wrxtra.com/faceplate_dimentions.jpg[/url]
based on my correspondance with Prosport the outerdiameter of the gauge face is 2-3/8" which is roughly 60.4mm. The WRXTRA face plate has enough space to accomodate for 58mm gauge face OD. I'm just wondering if anyone has modified one of these gauge pods or gauges to fit and what they did to do it. Thanks.
This one:
[url]http://www.wrxtra.com/[/url]
dimensions of face plate:
[url]http://www.wrxtra.com/faceplate_dimentions.jpg[/url]
based on my correspondance with Prosport the outerdiameter of the gauge face is 2-3/8" which is roughly 60.4mm. The WRXTRA face plate has enough space to accomodate for 58mm gauge face OD. I'm just wondering if anyone has modified one of these gauge pods or gauges to fit and what they did to do it. Thanks.
| orion421 | 01-29-2007 09:11 PM |
[QUOTE=Ziggyrama;16847477]It sounds right to me. Your idle temps are right where mine are. As far as non-idle, there will always be variations. Your EGTs are dependant on your AFR and timing but 1400-1500 is about right. It's actually good place to bee. You don't want to venture pat 1600 but running too cold is a bad thing too. I think you're in good shape considering you have all your cats in place.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the reply.. set my mind at ease
thanks for the reply.. set my mind at ease
| R6_rider | 01-29-2007 11:38 PM |
can anyone post a link on how to install guages? ive been wanting some but the shop close to me wants to chanrge 200 a guage to install! UG. thanks for your help also first post
| Grover85 | 01-30-2007 12:05 PM |
Installed my electric boost gauge and egt gauge about a month ago. Then the boost sensor died. No biggy. Emailed prosport. They told me to send the sensor back and the will send me a new sending unit. Shipped the old one out thrusday had a new one by monday. Fixed the problem. I would give customer service an A++
| bajozzy | 01-30-2007 11:10 PM |
Is there any fitment issues with the 60MM prosports being too deep for the defi triple dash pod. Thats my plan...Is it going to fit ??
| Madson26 | 01-31-2007 06:08 AM |
is there a green fuel pressure gague available yet?
Anyone got a recommendation for what 3 gagues i should get for a stock wrx?(I plan on keeping the stock boost gague also).
Anyone got a recommendation for what 3 gagues i should get for a stock wrx?(I plan on keeping the stock boost gague also).
| G3Red04WRX | 01-31-2007 07:11 AM |
If you are leaving it stock, then there's not much reason to get into any expensive gauges (EGT, WB AFR, etc..) Oil Pressure, Voltage, and Water Temp are good choices for any "stock" vehicle. They would just be a basic readout of your cars health. If you are going to be modifying your car in the future, definitely get an EGT gauge, and if you are going to be tuning, pick up the Wideband AFR. Theres really no bad gauge choice except for sticking a 2nd tachometer on your dashboard, or a basic AFR light show of a gauge.
| dwmoss_68 | 01-31-2007 01:10 PM |
picking up a mech boost gauge and have a couple questions?
anyone have any luck tinting the green gauge to tone down the brightness?
what is the ID of the tubing that comes with the gauge (4 mm = 3/16")?
whats the size of the T that comes with the unit?
thanks in advance...
dm
anyone have any luck tinting the green gauge to tone down the brightness?
what is the ID of the tubing that comes with the gauge (4 mm = 3/16")?
whats the size of the T that comes with the unit?
thanks in advance...
dm
| Madson26 | 01-31-2007 04:09 PM |
[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16875246]If you are leaving it stock, then there's not much reason to get into any expensive gauges (EGT, WB AFR, etc..) Oil Pressure, Voltage, and Water Temp are good choices for any "stock" vehicle. They would just be a basic readout of your cars health. If you are going to be modifying your car in the future, definitely get an EGT gauge, and if you are going to be tuning, pick up the Wideband AFR. Theres really no bad gauge choice except for sticking a 2nd tachometer on your dashboard, or a basic AFR light show of a gauge.[/QUOTE]
Ya, I wasnt going to put a second tach or boost gauge in the pod, or the light show A/F gague. The only mods I am even considering as an AP stage 2, will the egt be helpful there?
Ya, I wasnt going to put a second tach or boost gauge in the pod, or the light show A/F gague. The only mods I am even considering as an AP stage 2, will the egt be helpful there?
| Mach V Dan | 01-31-2007 04:16 PM |
[QUOTE=Madson26;16875079]is there a green fuel pressure gague available yet?
[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's now available, [url=http://www.fastwrx.com/prfuprga.html]HERE[/url].
--Dan
Mach V
[url=www.fastwrx.com]FastWRX.com[/url]
[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's now available, [url=http://www.fastwrx.com/prfuprga.html]HERE[/url].
--Dan
Mach V
[url=www.fastwrx.com]FastWRX.com[/url]
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