| Ian Cook | 11-25-2001 09:28 AM |
Burns has the Drivers World Championship,
Peugeot have the Manufacturers Championship !
Peugeot have the Manufacturers Championship !
| Shik | 11-25-2001 09:39 AM |
Yes! David Higgins and his WRX beat out Ferreyos and the other million mitusbishi's for the Group N win by 3 seconds!
What an absolute glorious day to be a Subaru fan!
Congrats to the entire SWRT and everyone else who was involved. It's been 6 years, but worth the wait. And as TampaWRX stated, good luck to Burns next year at Peugeot, thanks for past three years and thanks for today.
And congrats to the Impreza WRC2001. First year in competition and it becomes the car to take Burns to his first world title. Not too bad, especially considering the potential of this car that has yet to be tapped(according to DL). 9 weeks until Monte Carlo, but for now...
Subaru is again World Champion. Time to celebrate!
What an absolute glorious day to be a Subaru fan!
Congrats to the entire SWRT and everyone else who was involved. It's been 6 years, but worth the wait. And as TampaWRX stated, good luck to Burns next year at Peugeot, thanks for past three years and thanks for today.
And congrats to the Impreza WRC2001. First year in competition and it becomes the car to take Burns to his first world title. Not too bad, especially considering the potential of this car that has yet to be tapped(according to DL). 9 weeks until Monte Carlo, but for now...
Subaru is again World Champion. Time to celebrate!
| TampaWRX | 11-25-2001 10:00 AM |
Scooby Scooby Scooby Scooby!! --mocking the Tifosi and their chants of "Schumi Schumi Schumi" at F1 events. If you've ever heard this live, you know how annoying it can be. :D Wish they had a Rally in the US, since I'm going to skip the USGP next year. Would definitely like to see one live.
| Weasel 555 | 11-25-2001 10:35 AM |
Richard Burns is the new drivers world champion :)
congratulations ....after such a tough and closely fought season...
[url]www.swrt.com/news/frameset_news.asp[/url]
congratulations ....after such a tough and closely fought season...
[url]www.swrt.com/news/frameset_news.asp[/url]
| TriniTuner | 11-25-2001 10:42 AM |
Woo hoo! Burns, World Rally Drivers Champion 2001! In a Scooby [sorta] like mine, no less :D
I wonder how long it will take before we see Subaru marketing the WRX with 2001 WRC drivers champion....
I wonder how long it will take before we see Subaru marketing the WRX with 2001 WRC drivers champion....
| ShockWave | 11-25-2001 10:45 AM |
Ooooooo....
Fingers crossed for another 22B-esque super Impreza to celebrate Burns' championship.
Fingers crossed for another 22B-esque super Impreza to celebrate Burns' championship.
| grandmasterchan | 11-25-2001 10:48 AM |
Maybe we'll see a new Richard Burns edition to celebrate his championship victory!
Hip hip horray!
Hip hip horray!
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-25-2001 11:01 AM |
Given that he's leaving the team, I doubt they'll do a special edition unless it is the "Driver's Championship Winner" Edition.
But anyway, BURNSIE, BURNSIE, BURNSIE!!!!
Pop quiz: who was the first FIA world rally driver's champion and what was his steed?
Glenn
But anyway, BURNSIE, BURNSIE, BURNSIE!!!!
Pop quiz: who was the first FIA world rally driver's champion and what was his steed?
Glenn
| Weasel 555 | 11-25-2001 11:05 AM |
First ever wrchampion 1979 :Bjorn Waldegard : Mercedes
| Crashton | 11-25-2001 11:21 AM |
Congrats Richard!!! Richard Burns world Champion. That has a nice ring to it. I am sorry to see him go drive a Pug next year. Good luck on all your future rallies Richard.
Chuck:D
Chuck:D
| Scoobie Newbie | 11-25-2001 12:01 PM |
Rally GB done?
According to rally live timing it appears that the rally is over. It appears that Burns finished 3rd so does that now mean that Burns has won the Drivers title?[URL]http://www.autosport.com/liverallytimings.cfm[/URL]
| superdj | 11-25-2001 12:07 PM |
It's official...Richard Burns is the new FIA rally champion !!! He finished third today behind Gronholm and Rovanpera. Congrats Richard.
| rhdude | 11-25-2001 12:17 PM |
yes Burns won...
I hope TOMMI is ready to win next year.. i want 2 in a row... or do the triple like in 95-97...
I hope TOMMI is ready to win next year.. i want 2 in a row... or do the triple like in 95-97...
| Scoobie Newbie | 11-25-2001 12:19 PM |
So if Burns won the rally then why no big horra?
| Gethin | 11-25-2001 01:07 PM |
Congrats
Congrats to Burnsie and Robert, job well done.
Good platform for SWRT to build on next year.
Good platform for SWRT to build on next year.
| nqwan | 11-25-2001 01:17 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Scoobie Newbie [/i]
[B]So if Burns won the rally then why no big horra? [/B][/QUOTE]
maybe because you probably didnt notice the sticky post that is supposed to cover everything bout the gb rally...
[B]So if Burns won the rally then why no big horra? [/B][/QUOTE]
maybe because you probably didnt notice the sticky post that is supposed to cover everything bout the gb rally...
| SubEd | 11-25-2001 01:19 PM |
[color=red][SIZE=8]H O O R A H ! ! ![/SIZE][/color]
:D
:D
| 10th Warrior | 11-25-2001 01:19 PM |
congrats burns! i'm glad he finished out his ride with the boys in blue in style, *finally* winning the championship after a string of runner ups.
about the amazing GrN victory for David Higgins and Subaru (this excites me almost as much as the world title :D )
[QUOTE]Another star Subaru performance came from British Impreza driver David Higgins
and his co-driver Craig Thorley. The pair finished 11th to win the Group N class –
ending Mitsubishi's run of 28 consecutive wins![/QUOTE]
UP YOURS, MITSUBISHI:monkey: :devil: :D
about the amazing GrN victory for David Higgins and Subaru (this excites me almost as much as the world title :D )
[QUOTE]Another star Subaru performance came from British Impreza driver David Higgins
and his co-driver Craig Thorley. The pair finished 11th to win the Group N class –
ending Mitsubishi's run of 28 consecutive wins![/QUOTE]
UP YOURS, MITSUBISHI:monkey: :devil: :D
| ashtaron14 | 11-25-2001 01:27 PM |
[B]YAY![/B]
| Mel 22B | 11-25-2001 01:40 PM |
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D
Nice work Subaru/Prodrive/STi and Mr. Burns.
-Mel
:D:D:D:D:D
Nice work Subaru/Prodrive/STi and Mr. Burns.
-Mel
| Imprezard | 11-25-2001 01:46 PM |
I was very excited about Richard winning the champion during the past few weeks.
Now he won. But I don't really feel that happy.....
Maybe because Colin, Tommi and Carlo, the closest rivals, all retired early so there was no expected ultimate final battle. And the win felts like a lucky win.
Also because Richard will be moving to Peugeot next year...as a Champion
And because Peugeot will have the the most number of top drivers next year...:( (Marcus who's last yr champ, Richard who's this yr champ, and Harri who's 4th overall this year)
Now he won. But I don't really feel that happy.....
Maybe because Colin, Tommi and Carlo, the closest rivals, all retired early so there was no expected ultimate final battle. And the win felts like a lucky win.
Also because Richard will be moving to Peugeot next year...as a Champion
And because Peugeot will have the the most number of top drivers next year...:( (Marcus who's last yr champ, Richard who's this yr champ, and Harri who's 4th overall this year)
| Uncle_Git | 11-25-2001 02:09 PM |
Contgrats to Burns and SWRT on the win.
Yes it was a lucky win - especially considering the events in Australia - but it was still a win.
Git
Yes it was a lucky win - especially considering the events in Australia - but it was still a win.
Git
| TampaWRX | 11-25-2001 03:08 PM |
Luck is as much a part of winning races as showing up for the events!! I'm just glad the Scoobies have another win under their belts and I hope Makinen can get himself in fighting shape by Monte Carlo. :cool:
| 10th Warrior | 11-25-2001 03:48 PM |
[QUOTE]And the win felts like a lucky win. [/QUOTE]
how is it a lucky win? yes, all the other championship contenders DNF'd, but not a single one was mechanical. McRae and Sainz crashed out. sure, Sainz continued until Ford withdrew, but he was not in a position to challange. Makinen hit a rut wrong and broke his front suspension. Burns drove a smart race and won the championship because of it. what amazes me most is that he finally one this year while only winning one rally, yet in the past two years when he came in second overall, he won several rallies. go figure :rolleyes:
the pugs are definetly going to be the one's to beat next year, but i suspect subaru will do quite well. the new car seems to be sorted out fairly well now, and there will be plenty of driving talent to complement it.
how is it a lucky win? yes, all the other championship contenders DNF'd, but not a single one was mechanical. McRae and Sainz crashed out. sure, Sainz continued until Ford withdrew, but he was not in a position to challange. Makinen hit a rut wrong and broke his front suspension. Burns drove a smart race and won the championship because of it. what amazes me most is that he finally one this year while only winning one rally, yet in the past two years when he came in second overall, he won several rallies. go figure :rolleyes:
the pugs are definetly going to be the one's to beat next year, but i suspect subaru will do quite well. the new car seems to be sorted out fairly well now, and there will be plenty of driving talent to complement it.
| Rattler | 11-25-2001 04:45 PM |
NASCRAP Style:
<H2>WOOOOOWEEEEEE!!!<h2>
| Patrick L | 11-25-2001 05:10 PM |
Has it been confirmed that Richard will leave Subaru? Last time I heard, he was still under contract with Subaru threw the 2002 season.
Can anyone comfirm?
Can anyone comfirm?
| Sanctum | 11-25-2001 06:25 PM |
Here's the Some News Articles
[URL=http://www.worldrally-online.com/frames/news/article.asp?id=932]WRC News[/URL]
[URL=http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/rally_off_road/011125a.html]Speedvision News[/URL]
[URL=http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/rally_off_road/011125a.html]Speedvision News[/URL]
| Imprezard | 11-25-2001 07:46 PM |
I felt it was a luck win because there were no battles for time and speed between drivers, like seconds in between time gaps. (4th place was a few minutes behind Richard, so the pressure was low => not as exciting as other rallies).
A win is still a win, but this time it's mostly about tactics, i know it's part of rallying, still I would like to see Richard really beat Colin.
Btw, if Mitsu continued using EVO6 Tommi might get a better chance :) Like Tommi said, the car is just too heavy and big. And it doesn't look as cool as 5 :D
New Age Impreza rules, a champ in first year of running.:)
Hope Tommi will kick ass with Impreza WRC2002.
A win is still a win, but this time it's mostly about tactics, i know it's part of rallying, still I would like to see Richard really beat Colin.
Btw, if Mitsu continued using EVO6 Tommi might get a better chance :) Like Tommi said, the car is just too heavy and big. And it doesn't look as cool as 5 :D
New Age Impreza rules, a champ in first year of running.:)
Hope Tommi will kick ass with Impreza WRC2002.
| Orion | 11-25-2001 09:39 PM |
Hooray for Subaru!:D
It's too bad I can't stand the newest Peugeot driver, Richard "Whiney" Burns. I would have enjoyed it more had Petter, Marko, or Toshi won!
It's too bad I can't stand the newest Peugeot driver, Richard "Whiney" Burns. I would have enjoyed it more had Petter, Marko, or Toshi won!
| shrieden | 11-25-2001 09:44 PM |
Oh Burns is leaving, I am not going to give you a link, because a search would reveal plenty of links to many stories, and I am lazy, but here is a link for all things SWRT
[url]www.swrt.com[/url]
[url]www.swrt.com[/url]
| Patrick L | 11-25-2001 10:17 PM |
I am going to see if I can catch any highlights on the BBC World News on the dish.
| RallyCSX | 11-25-2001 10:57 PM |
[QUOTE]A win is still a win, but this time it's mostly about tactics, i know it's part of rallying, still I would like to see Richard really beat Colin. [/QUOTE]
(Enter my opinion)
Colin is a much more aggressive driver than Burns and that is why he is and always will be FASTER...
But on the opposite side being more aggressive also means that Colin takes more risks.
Risks that Burns has learned to take full advantage of...
[QUOTE]It's too bad I can't stand the newest Peugeot driver, Richard "Whiney" Burns. I would have enjoyed it more had Petter, Marko, or Toshi won![/QUOTE]
Good to see someone else likes Petter! He, not unlike Colin, needs to learn to keep it out of the woods or he risks becoming another Freddy Loix!
The kid interviews well and seems to be humble and honest.
Unlike another "driver" (cough cough Burns cough cough)
who is definitely not humble and whos one eyebrow raised swagering look during interviews annoys me!
(Enter my opinion)
Colin is a much more aggressive driver than Burns and that is why he is and always will be FASTER...
But on the opposite side being more aggressive also means that Colin takes more risks.
Risks that Burns has learned to take full advantage of...
[QUOTE]It's too bad I can't stand the newest Peugeot driver, Richard "Whiney" Burns. I would have enjoyed it more had Petter, Marko, or Toshi won![/QUOTE]
Good to see someone else likes Petter! He, not unlike Colin, needs to learn to keep it out of the woods or he risks becoming another Freddy Loix!
The kid interviews well and seems to be humble and honest.
Unlike another "driver" (cough cough Burns cough cough)
who is definitely not humble and whos one eyebrow raised swagering look during interviews annoys me!
| Impreza Rider | 11-25-2001 11:04 PM |
Yeah Subaru :D
Peugeot is going to be tough to beat next year though :(
Peugeot is going to be tough to beat next year though :(
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-25-2001 11:17 PM |
[quote]And the win felts like a lucky win. [/quote]
It is a championship. There were plenty of retirements in other rallies. So what?
To finish first, first you must finish (or be Finnish).
Glenn
It is a championship. There were plenty of retirements in other rallies. So what?
To finish first, first you must finish (or be Finnish).
Glenn
| RallyCSX | 11-25-2001 11:23 PM |
[QUOTE]To finish first, first you must finish (or be Finnish). [/QUOTE]
Bwah Ha Ha Ha :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bwah Ha Ha Ha :lol: :lol: :lol:
| 10th Warrior | 11-26-2001 12:02 AM |
:lol: @ Glenn (too true)
[QUOTE]Btw, if Mitsu continued using EVO6 Tommi might get a better chance[/QUOTE]
to quote my own predictions for the championship after rally australia:
[QUOTE]my two pence: colin if he can keep it on the road, richard if he can't, tommi if they switch back to
the old car[/QUOTE]
spot on i'd say. sure, McRae has a tendency to set best stage times, but that's because he pushes [i]so[/i]hard. its only a matter of time until he crashes. hence his nickname:McCrash. back in the legacy days he almost got fired from subaru b/c he crashed the car so often. burns has a much cleaner style and makinen is usually pretty good about finishing as well. i still think if they hadn't switched cars, he would have gotten #5.
[QUOTE]Btw, if Mitsu continued using EVO6 Tommi might get a better chance[/QUOTE]
to quote my own predictions for the championship after rally australia:
[QUOTE]my two pence: colin if he can keep it on the road, richard if he can't, tommi if they switch back to
the old car[/QUOTE]
spot on i'd say. sure, McRae has a tendency to set best stage times, but that's because he pushes [i]so[/i]hard. its only a matter of time until he crashes. hence his nickname:McCrash. back in the legacy days he almost got fired from subaru b/c he crashed the car so often. burns has a much cleaner style and makinen is usually pretty good about finishing as well. i still think if they hadn't switched cars, he would have gotten #5.
| Gethin | 11-26-2001 12:22 AM |
Richard has won more stages (i.e. set the greatest number of fastest stage times) than any other driver in the history of the WRC. Pretty amazing stuff.....
I'll try to dig the data out and post here.....
Gethin.
I'll try to dig the data out and post here.....
Gethin.
| toerag | 11-26-2001 05:32 AM |
Just a bit of extra information, Markko Martin's car caught fire(!), I think it was due to a fuelling problem, there was a bit of smoke coming out the engine and fireballs coming out the exhaust (at a standstill). Wearden clipped a gatepost and broke his steering.
| SubEd | 11-26-2001 05:46 AM |
[SIZE=1]please keep your voices down this morning. richard is nursing quite a hangover! congrats.[/SIZE]
| Shik | 11-26-2001 06:04 AM |
I'll try and be quite ;)
Lucky win? That is just crazy to say. If Colin or Tommi would have won, I would guarentee not many would be saying" They won it by luck because look at the rallies this year that Richard scored no points in" :lol: Why, because it's easy to hate Burns. As was said before, Richard won the title yesterday because he was the better driver yesterday, plain and simple. He deserves every single bit of that championship. Other drivers may be faster, but you win championships by being the best driver overall throughout the year, and Burns got points when it counted.
[SIZE=7]Wake up Burnsie, you're world Champion!!![/SIZE] (probaby never went to sleep)
Can't wait for the posters, clothes, decals, etc. !!!
Lucky win? That is just crazy to say. If Colin or Tommi would have won, I would guarentee not many would be saying" They won it by luck because look at the rallies this year that Richard scored no points in" :lol: Why, because it's easy to hate Burns. As was said before, Richard won the title yesterday because he was the better driver yesterday, plain and simple. He deserves every single bit of that championship. Other drivers may be faster, but you win championships by being the best driver overall throughout the year, and Burns got points when it counted.
[SIZE=7]Wake up Burnsie, you're world Champion!!![/SIZE] (probaby never went to sleep)
Can't wait for the posters, clothes, decals, etc. !!!
| kensington | 11-26-2001 08:54 AM |
Good job Scoobaru ! It is too bad it wasn't a down to the wire finish but a win is a win, no matter how you slice it. If anything Burns gets credit for not wrecking himself out of the race. I wish Burns luck and really hope that Tommi can get some rest and has a full recovery.
Newbie question: Does Subaru change the rally car every year with the newer model ? How does that work ? Or is it just after major revisions ? I realize they are probably making changes all the time but as far as something major, like the different incarnations of the EVO. I am sure that Tommi did some lobbying to try to get back into his old car.
Thanks
Arnold
Newbie question: Does Subaru change the rally car every year with the newer model ? How does that work ? Or is it just after major revisions ? I realize they are probably making changes all the time but as far as something major, like the different incarnations of the EVO. I am sure that Tommi did some lobbying to try to get back into his old car.
Thanks
Arnold
| DonA | 11-26-2001 08:57 AM |
Very interesting Quote on WRC News this morning...
Just a day after clinching the World Rally Championship, Richard Burns woke up this morning (Monday) to a contractual wrangle over his services for next year between current employers Subaru and manufacturers' title winners Peugeot.
Last month, Peugeot announced that Burns would be joining its ranks for 2002 and '03, a matter of days after Subaru had announced that Tommi Makinen was joining its line up next year.
But Burns is believed to have a clause in his contract with Subaru that allows the squad first option on his services for the following season.
Subaru's team principal, David Lapworth, said: "Richard's contract is a private matter between him and Subaru. We'll be discussing the future with Richard this week.
"There is a contractual relationship in place between ourselves and Richard next year, and we would love him to stay. But he has to want to. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Our objective is to persuade Richard to stay. You would have thought winning the title would have been enough," he added.
Peugeot has denied there is anything stopping Burns joining current drivers Marcus Gronholm and Harri Rovanpera in 2002.
"No matter what Subaru say, you can be sure Richard Burns will be driving for us next season," said Peugeot Sport's director Corrado Provera.
What a line up Subaru could have Tommi, Richard, and Petter backing them up.
Almost a dream team!
Just a day after clinching the World Rally Championship, Richard Burns woke up this morning (Monday) to a contractual wrangle over his services for next year between current employers Subaru and manufacturers' title winners Peugeot.
Last month, Peugeot announced that Burns would be joining its ranks for 2002 and '03, a matter of days after Subaru had announced that Tommi Makinen was joining its line up next year.
But Burns is believed to have a clause in his contract with Subaru that allows the squad first option on his services for the following season.
Subaru's team principal, David Lapworth, said: "Richard's contract is a private matter between him and Subaru. We'll be discussing the future with Richard this week.
"There is a contractual relationship in place between ourselves and Richard next year, and we would love him to stay. But he has to want to. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Our objective is to persuade Richard to stay. You would have thought winning the title would have been enough," he added.
Peugeot has denied there is anything stopping Burns joining current drivers Marcus Gronholm and Harri Rovanpera in 2002.
"No matter what Subaru say, you can be sure Richard Burns will be driving for us next season," said Peugeot Sport's director Corrado Provera.
What a line up Subaru could have Tommi, Richard, and Petter backing them up.
Almost a dream team!
| kensington | 11-26-2001 09:00 AM |
Sounds like a fight to me, let's hope Scoob can take the ugly Pug, it would be quite a team. They may not get along but it would be cool.
| jaybird | 11-26-2001 09:40 AM |
Congrats to Burnsie & SWRT !! Yeah sometimes he may be a little whiney, but he is one hell of a driver. Give him some credit> Though he didn't win that many rallies, he was consistantly in the top 2 or 5 and won the most stages of the season. Consistancy is what wins championships. I watched the highlights on Raceweek and RPM2night(super lame). Did anybody else see the shot of Burnsie's chic? She looks like she's 13!
So there is some controversy behind who the champ is going to drive for next year? Will there be a lawsuit? Is Burns just trying to get more cash from Peugeot? Burns, Makkinen and Solberg would make quite a team. I think Makkinen and Burns would fight even more than McRae and Burns did.
So there is some controversy behind who the champ is going to drive for next year? Will there be a lawsuit? Is Burns just trying to get more cash from Peugeot? Burns, Makkinen and Solberg would make quite a team. I think Makkinen and Burns would fight even more than McRae and Burns did.
| Thug | 11-26-2001 09:40 AM |
It was a rather boring rally when it comes down to it. It would have been nice if Burns actually had to fight for the win. He really only had to drive 8/10ths and finish.
| Red-Impreza | 11-26-2001 10:01 AM |
<center>[SIZE=4][B]Congratulations Richard Burns![/B][/SIZE]</center>
Now stay with Subaru and build an all-champion team!
Now stay with Subaru and build an all-champion team!
| 10th Warrior | 11-26-2001 11:07 AM |
[QUOTE]I am sure that
Tommi did some lobbying to try to get back into his old car. [/QUOTE]
actually, mitsubishi got a special extension from the FIA to keep running the EVO 6.5 until the new car was ready mid-season. they couldn't go back. the cars have to be current and they are always undergoing revisions.
Tommi did some lobbying to try to get back into his old car. [/QUOTE]
actually, mitsubishi got a special extension from the FIA to keep running the EVO 6.5 until the new car was ready mid-season. they couldn't go back. the cars have to be current and they are always undergoing revisions.
| STiShawn | 11-26-2001 11:29 AM |
Congrats to Richard and SWRT! I had my doubts early season with the new car teathing problems, but all is good and he is the man!
| omahasubaru | 11-26-2001 11:40 AM |
[url]http://www.swrt.com/images/gallery/large/2001_world_rally_champion.jpg[/url] My new background!
[b]IMHO:[/b] Next season here is my SWRT predictions.
Burns will be the first WRC driver to leave a team after a winning season (IIRC).
Tommi will be the #1 driver, Petter #2, and #3 will be Toshihiro... However I feel that Toshihiro will shine better and is a better driver than Petter. Toshihiro just needs a better co-driver.
These are all my opinions so think nothing of them!! I in no way could do half the job that these guys do.
[b]IMHO:[/b] Next season here is my SWRT predictions.
Burns will be the first WRC driver to leave a team after a winning season (IIRC).
Tommi will be the #1 driver, Petter #2, and #3 will be Toshihiro... However I feel that Toshihiro will shine better and is a better driver than Petter. Toshihiro just needs a better co-driver.
These are all my opinions so think nothing of them!! I in no way could do half the job that these guys do.
| 10th Warrior | 11-26-2001 11:48 AM |
[QUOTE]However I feel that Toshihiro will
shine better and is a better driver than Petter. Toshihiro just needs a better co-driver. [/QUOTE]
i have to disagree jon. i have been really impressed with solberg's driving this year, much more so than last year. i think he could very well be a champion in a few years (after makinen retires). arai is good, but he just hasn't been able to put together an impressive run at a WRC event. why is it you feel arai is better despite the results indicating otherwise? :p
shine better and is a better driver than Petter. Toshihiro just needs a better co-driver. [/QUOTE]
i have to disagree jon. i have been really impressed with solberg's driving this year, much more so than last year. i think he could very well be a champion in a few years (after makinen retires). arai is good, but he just hasn't been able to put together an impressive run at a WRC event. why is it you feel arai is better despite the results indicating otherwise? :p
| omahasubaru | 11-26-2001 03:33 PM |
I think he's better as Petter is still getting his feet wet. He's pushing harder than he can control sometimes.. although it's doing good so far, it's going to bite him in the arse one day and then he'll slow down (firing blazes don't count :D ). The main reason is I like to root for the underdog. It feels good when they do well. I think SWRT just haven't given Arai the chance he deserves. How many races did Petter do this year compared to the number entered by Arai.
I agree Petter has improved and I'm impressed with his performance in some of the last rallies, but in all fairness He isn't consistant.
I agree Petter has improved and I'm impressed with his performance in some of the last rallies, but in all fairness He isn't consistant.
| Shik | 11-27-2001 04:23 PM |
Quote from David Lapworth : "we would love him to stay. But he has to want to. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. "
Richard has already stated that he wanted to leave the team. He said something along the lines of wanting to be with a team that will be able to win the championship for the next five years(referring to Pug). Sounds to me like Subaru will try to get him to stay but will not push the issue if wants to leave.
Burns and Tommi seemed to get along well at Mitsu, so I don't think that would be much of a problem, but who knows what a World Championship could do to an ego ;) Tommi, Burns, Petter, and the 44S Impreza, a Dream Team indeed!!!
-Matt
Richard has already stated that he wanted to leave the team. He said something along the lines of wanting to be with a team that will be able to win the championship for the next five years(referring to Pug). Sounds to me like Subaru will try to get him to stay but will not push the issue if wants to leave.
Burns and Tommi seemed to get along well at Mitsu, so I don't think that would be much of a problem, but who knows what a World Championship could do to an ego ;) Tommi, Burns, Petter, and the 44S Impreza, a Dream Team indeed!!!
-Matt
| brainrally | 11-27-2001 05:25 PM |
I'm glad for Richard. Congrats. I don't know him well enough to say I like or don't like him, so the default is that I think he's okay.
However, I rather rooted for Petter. Though I knew he wouldn't do as well as Richard because of the experience factor, I was still excited to see him do well when he did. He got second in one rally IIRC. That had to be cool. I kinda saw him as somewhat the underdog.
From what I saw of interviews of Tommi, he seemed like a cool guy, and I think it's great that he's coming to Subaru. I think I like him better than Richard. I just hope he does well in 2002. I also hope Petter continues to improve. I want to see Subaru get the Manufacturer's Title.
I'm somewhat new to this rally stuff, this being my first year to watch/keep up with the WRC.
And yes, I think it would be radical if both Tommi and Richard were driving for Subaru, but I think I'd rather see Petter continue to have a chance to shine.
However, I rather rooted for Petter. Though I knew he wouldn't do as well as Richard because of the experience factor, I was still excited to see him do well when he did. He got second in one rally IIRC. That had to be cool. I kinda saw him as somewhat the underdog.
From what I saw of interviews of Tommi, he seemed like a cool guy, and I think it's great that he's coming to Subaru. I think I like him better than Richard. I just hope he does well in 2002. I also hope Petter continues to improve. I want to see Subaru get the Manufacturer's Title.
I'm somewhat new to this rally stuff, this being my first year to watch/keep up with the WRC.
And yes, I think it would be radical if both Tommi and Richard were driving for Subaru, but I think I'd rather see Petter continue to have a chance to shine.
| Imprezard | 11-28-2001 04:10 AM |
Y2k4door, agree.
| johnfelstead | 11-29-2001 08:09 AM |
Back home now after an absolutely brilliant week and half spectating and doing crazy stuff like driving the nurburgring etc with Jamie, dmross and my bro.
I'll start a new thread soon with some pictures from the shakedown, rally show, rally and finish ramp. I took over 400! need to sort that lot out......
P.S. Jamie is OK Alex, we were on the next stage that was cancelled when Sainz had his accident. Even though it was cancelled we had a huge laugh with some crazy french Auriol Fans and we built a shrine to the departed cars of McCrash, Solberg and Makinen, that turned a few heads. :lol:
I drove over 3500 miles in a week and half in my Impreza Sport. I need a holiday! :lol:
Gonna be hard to top this trip next year Jamie, huge fun! :D
I'll start a new thread soon with some pictures from the shakedown, rally show, rally and finish ramp. I took over 400! need to sort that lot out......
P.S. Jamie is OK Alex, we were on the next stage that was cancelled when Sainz had his accident. Even though it was cancelled we had a huge laugh with some crazy french Auriol Fans and we built a shrine to the departed cars of McCrash, Solberg and Makinen, that turned a few heads. :lol:
I drove over 3500 miles in a week and half in my Impreza Sport. I need a holiday! :lol:
Gonna be hard to top this trip next year Jamie, huge fun! :D
| toerag | 11-29-2001 09:09 AM |
Guys,
is it OK to unsticky this now the Rally's over?
is it OK to unsticky this now the Rally's over?
| SubEd | 11-29-2001 09:22 AM |
I think it should remain until Monte Carlo! ;)
| scotto | 12-03-2001 06:08 PM |
Hello!
I didn't even realize Burns had won till going to the SOA site yesterday. Never thought he really had a chance this season. WAY TO GO!
I didn't even realize Burns had won till going to the SOA site yesterday. Never thought he really had a chance this season. WAY TO GO!
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