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The official One Lap of America *results/updates* thread part 3

RichardM 05-11-2006 04:56 PM

Just to add, that when a car is pushing or understeering on the race track, you early apex. This can occasionally lead to hitting the edge of the track.
trhoppe 05-11-2006 05:07 PM

From the way *I* read it, I caught that "the other cars aren't trying in the turns and are pulling away from him on the straights".

Your explanation puts it in a different light.

My word of "douchebag" was used to describe exactly the whole "have fun while rallying the piss out of the car but not caring about throwing dirt on track" which is again, what i got out of the description.

[quote]Of course, a little engine hiccup doesn�t stop the boy from covering the track in dirt and putting on a good show.[/quote]

Anyways, I'll go on to say that it seems like I did misunderstand what he was trying to say, so I'll have to edit at least SOME of my post ;)

-Tom
trhoppe 05-11-2006 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=RichardM]Just to add, that when a car is pushing or understeering on the race track, you early apex. This can occasionally lead to hitting the edge of the track.[/QUOTE]
Who does that? When a car is understeering, you brake MORE, then late apex to get on teh gas earlier. Early apexing just makes it understeer MORE.

-Tom
Johnny Butane 05-11-2006 05:12 PM

WTF? I just read the word "antecedent" in a motorsport forum. :D

It's the end of the world.

jeff
javid 05-11-2006 06:15 PM

TOPSPEED > AMS


I just couldn't resist.
RichardM 05-11-2006 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]Who does that? When a car is understeering, you brake MORE, then late apex to get on teh gas earlier. Early apexing just makes it understeer MORE.

-Tom[/QUOTE]
In a long race, you are correct as to do otherwise will chew up the front tires. However, in a short 2 lapper, you can get away with it.

I also tend to early apex in my Saab rally car as it understeers most of the time. And it does not have enough horsepower to hurt the front tires.
Easy Rider 05-11-2006 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=Johnny Butane]WTF? I just read the word "antecedent" in a motorsport forum. :D

It's the end of the world.

jeff[/QUOTE]


It's those darn co-drivers - they normally only get to read letters / numbers and squiggles. :D
Crawford Performance 05-11-2006 07:51 PM

There are no results posted as yet for today, but here are yesterdays standings in the mid priced sedan class :)


MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Wed May 10 15:47:12 2006
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 760 4595
Martin Musial, Ray Krolewicz, Jon Krolewicz
2 6 Subaru STi Top Speed 730 4365
Luke Russell, Doug Wilks
3 43 Subaru STi 655 4195
Kevin Jones, Mark Donohue Williams
4 7 Subaru WRX STi 655 4220
R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini
5 41 Subaru WRX-STI 605 4115
Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut


Quirt
WRXedUSA 05-11-2006 07:57 PM

They are skipping the drag event. Road America is tomorrow. Forcast is rain. :devil:

Luke+1

Thanks for the info Quirt.
trhoppe 05-11-2006 08:11 PM

That sucker is outdated after today's results.

Luke is 1st in class ahead of Jon K.

-Tom
CoolRex 05-11-2006 08:21 PM

Look for pics and vids coming up from Florence, SC!
CoolRex 05-11-2006 08:55 PM

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CoolRex 05-11-2006 08:57 PM

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CoolRex 05-11-2006 08:58 PM

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CoolRex 05-11-2006 09:02 PM

Right click and save as or I WILL remove these from the server.

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javid 05-11-2006 09:04 PM

Nice!

<golf clap>
Chromer 05-11-2006 09:45 PM

That is just the coolest sound when the car is in turn 3 and approaching the camera...
pittspilot 05-11-2006 10:04 PM

Sounds like so much fun. Go Luke!
Golfa 05-11-2006 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=Crawford Performance]There are no results posted as yet for today, but here are yesterdays standings in the mid priced sedan class :)


MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Wed May 10 15:47:12 2006
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 760 4595
Martin Musial, Ray Krolewicz, Jon Krolewicz
2 6 Subaru STi Top Speed 730 4365
Luke Russell, Doug Wilks
3 43 Subaru STi 655 4195
Kevin Jones, Mark Donohue Williams
4 7 Subaru WRX STi 655 4220
R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini
5 41 Subaru WRX-STI 605 4115
Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut


Quirt[/QUOTE]
rally driver Ken Block in his VSC prepped STi isnt even in the top 5? wow
javid 05-11-2006 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=Golfa]rally driver Ken Block in his VSC prepped STi isnt even in the top 5? wow[/QUOTE]

His motor blew up.

Luke is on a mild TopSpeed motor.
JonK is on a built AMS stroker.
Lipperini is on a stock block and turbo.
Crawford Performance 05-11-2006 10:23 PM

Todays results :)

MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Thu May 11 15:29:54 2006
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts

1 6 Subaru STi Top Speed 865 5195
Luke Russell, Doug Wilks
2 8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 840 5275
Martin Musial, Ray Krolewicz, Jon Krolewicz
3 7 Subaru WRX STi 755 4940
R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini
4 43 Subaru STi 750 4910
Kevin Jones, Mark Donohue Williams
5 41 Subaru WRX-STI 725 4890
Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut

6 14 Dodge SRT-4 625 4620
Dale Seeley, Jamin Cummings, Nancy Becker
7 74 Dodge SRT-4 550 4140
Douglas Wind, Keith Ori, Bart Slater
8 44 Dodge Neon 535 3775
John Haley, Mike Polstra
9 87 Subaru STi 375 2745
Ken Block, Brian Scotto
10 75 BMW 328i 335 2245
Matthew Zekauskas, Pete Zekauskas


Quirt
esteve 05-11-2006 10:25 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]That sucker is outdated after today's results.

Luke is 1st in class ahead of Jon K.

-Tom[/QUOTE]

Holy crap, that's amazing! What kind of problems did the EVO have today to give up so much ground? This is great news! :disco:
culturedetox 05-11-2006 10:30 PM

no wonder ken's car is pushing in the corners. that WRC wing is putting a lot of force on the back wheels. and nothing up front to counter that force.

doesnt matter now that the engine is dead.
Crawford Performance 05-11-2006 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Golfa]rally driver Ken Block in his VSC prepped STi isnt even in the top 5? wow[/QUOTE]

Ken lost quite a few points while his motor was being replaced after it gave up on the first day of the event. The motor in Ken's car had not been tuched after the Gumball Rally race last year, my mistake :o

Quirt
javid 05-11-2006 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=esteve]Holy crap, that's amazing! What kind of problems did the EVO have today to give up so much ground? This is great news! :disco:[/QUOTE]

They may have had other problems but it was wet at Putnam and MXs no-workie in the wet. Note JonK's placing in all the dry events vs today and the wet skid pad. Also, note his and Hoppe's comments on the MXs on page 1 of this thread.
Crawford Performance 05-11-2006 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=culturedetox]no wonder ken's car is pushing in the corners. that WRC wing is putting a lot of force on the back wheels. and nothing up front to counter that force.

doesnt matter now that the engine is dead.[/QUOTE]

His motor is not "currently" dead.

Quirt
esteve 05-11-2006 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=javid]They may have had other problems but it was wet at Putnam and MXs no-workie in the wet. Note JonK's placing in all the dry events vs today and the wet skid pad. Also, note his and Hoppe's comments on the MXs on page 1 of this thread.[/QUOTE]

I did read about the Kumhos in the rain, but to give up over 200 points in one day they must be like having slicks on!!:lol:
Crawford Performance 05-11-2006 10:38 PM

Here are the "Overall" results as of today for the top fifteen cars :)

Cumulative Overall Points as of - Thu May 11 15:29:54 2006
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Points

1 1 Porsche 996 TT SSGT1 BB 5815
Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom
2 25 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 5380
Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran
3 42 Cheverolet Corvette SSGT1 BB 5335
Steve Stubbs, Leonard Way
4 2 Dodge Viper SSGT1 BB 5300
Ronald Adee, patrick adee
5 8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 MidPri Sed 5275
Martin Musial, Ray Krolewicz, Jon Krolewicz

6 5 Ultima GTR SSGT1 BB 5260
Karl H. Troy, Martin Troy
7 71 Honda Civic Si Econo Car 5235
Bryan Johnson, Jon Midgley
8 6 Subaru STi Top Speed MidPri Sed 5195
Luke Russell, Doug Wilks
9 33 Noble M400 SSGT1 SB 5085
Chris Novak, Kiki Wolfkill
10 31 Noble M400 SSGT1 SB 5055
Derek Whitis, Seth Agnew

11 10 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 5005
Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst, T. C. Kline
12 7 Subaru WRX STi MidPri Sed 4940
R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini
13 43 Subaru STi MidPri Sed 4910
Kevin Jones, Mark Donohue Williams
14 41 Subaru WRX-STI MidPri Sed 4890
Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut
15 12 Porsche 996TT SSGT1 BB 4850
Manuel Da Silva, Christine DaSilva


Quirt
lukerussell 05-11-2006 10:49 PM

May 11 � Oh yea. Rain. We dominated the morning session. Held FTD until the track completely dried around 11:30. We beat the 1st place Porsche by 23 seconds. In the rain, the 5 STIs were 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th. If it would�ve kept raining, that would�ve been sweet. But the sweetest thing is that enough mid-price sedans slipped between us and the Evo that we took over the class lead � although the Evo is still ahead overall. Class results and overall results are figured separately, so it�s possible for us to win the class and be behind in the overall results (go to One Laps website for more scoring information). The afternoon session was dry, and the Evo beat us � that thing is fast and they�re getting it dialed in. Jon/Martin and AMS are going to kick butt at the Redline Time Attack. I think this One Lap experience has Doug thinking about building his own shop car for this event and other Time Attack events � which I�d love to drive. If we drive smart at Road America, I think we can hold onto the lead. Anything can happen, as you can see from today. We�re driving through Milwaukee right now and it�s snowing. I promised myself I wouldn�t do this, but I figured out what would�ve been if No Problem went well, and I�d be about 125 points out of 1st, easily in 2nd. Suck. Late.

Luke
trhoppe 05-11-2006 10:53 PM

:rain dance: for luke.

If it rains both sessions and Luke drives like a friggin champ, he can sneak into the top 3 tomorrow. Go luuuuke.

-Tom
javid 05-11-2006 10:53 PM

Keep it up luke!

I see that Derek got back out for the second session of Putnam and took first overall.

You could still take top 5 if it rains tomorrow. :D
DrBiggly 05-11-2006 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=esteve]Holy crap, that's amazing! What kind of problems did the EVO have today to give up so much ground? This is great news! :disco:[/QUOTE]
Kumho MXs + rain don't mix. Seriously, that's their entire problem.

CoolRex,
You don't happen to have any video of the AMS EVO from Florence do you? I'd love to see a good video of it launching. :)

-Biggly
DrBiggly 05-11-2006 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]:rain dance: for luke.

If it rains both sessions and Luke drives like a friggin champ, he can sneak into the top 3 tomorrow. Go luuuuke.

-Tom[/QUOTE]
That would be a really awesome result for Luke, especially after what happened last year.

AWD for teh win whether it's Jon or Luke. :)

-Biggly
CoolRex 05-11-2006 11:01 PM

He never really launched it I don't think. Jon is a personal friend of my sponsor and he came over and talked with us. Very upstanding guy and it was a pleasure meeting him for the first time.

Unfortunately I didn't. We had no clue in what order the cars were running and when Jon was up Nature was SERIOUSLY calling :furious: I couldn't hold that piss for the life of me. :lol:
esteve 05-11-2006 11:07 PM

Too bad the drag events were cancelled. That would've been an AWDfest. :devil: That EVO looks sick! I like the Top Gun theme and the "KEEP CLEAR" lettering is a nice touch. Hopefully Road America is where Luke puts away that pesky Honda in the overall standings.

Luke, you're a great driver so I can only say it's not good to think about what might've been. That's when one becomes greedy and mistake-prone. A class win and a top 10 finish is still mighty impressive!
DrBiggly 05-11-2006 11:36 PM

[QUOTE=CoolRex]He never really launched it I don't think. Jon is a personal friend of my sponsor and he came over and talked with us. Very upstanding guy and it was a pleasure meeting him for the first time.

Unfortunately I didn't. We had no clue in what order the cars were running and when Jon was up Nature was SERIOUSLY calling :furious: I couldn't hold that piss for the life of me. :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol:

I autox with Jon all of the time. Not that Doug and Luke aren't great guys (I've talked on the phone with Luke once during last year's OneLap, Doug I've met and is a great guy too) but I end up hanging out with Jon and such a lot more so I'm having quite an awful time rooting for one or the other. Thus I'm rooting for both pretty much.

From Jon's blog about the event the car is doing a 0-60 in about 3.5 seconds and according to the data acquisition should have run about a 10.8 quarter mile. :eek:

[quote=www.racerjon.com]...On another cool note, looking at the data from Roebling, we were going from 100-128mph in four seconds.. 7mph per second of acceleration in the AMS Evo at triple digit speeds.. [/quote]

Wicked fast EVO for sure. It does suck a lot that the drag events were cancelled. :(

-Biggly
CoolRex 05-11-2006 11:39 PM

That supercharged Civic Si was nothing short of sweet. That car simply sounded wicked and it sounded SICK!

Dr. Biggly I am gonna quote Jon on something he told us....he launched the car and got a 10.8 all while seriously bogging it off the line. If that's the case then all I can say is :huh: :huh: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
WRXedUSA 05-11-2006 11:45 PM

Lipperini is NO slouch in that STOCK 2006 STi. He's only a few clicks back from the "Master" TC Kline.

Gret driving Luke, you havent put a foot wrong!
WRXedUSA 05-11-2006 11:57 PM

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Ken sure does know how to launch em!
:lol:
lukerussell 05-12-2006 07:39 AM

We have rain :banana: :banana:

Doug
KC 05-12-2006 08:08 AM

[QUOTE=lukerussell]We have rain :banana: :banana:

Doug[/QUOTE]
SWEEEET! Go get 'em! :D

Rain teh fun!

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--kC
CoolRex 05-12-2006 09:02 AM

Go get them Doug and Luke!
TopSpeed 05-12-2006 09:52 AM

Hell yeah! Good luck guys!

Tray M
[url]www.topspeedsales.com[/url]
Bonzo 05-12-2006 09:54 AM

It looks like it will stay wet all day in Wisconsin. This is a repeat from a few years ago. IIRC a certain srt-4 did quite well that day.

Watch for water running across the track going into T12.

Goooooo Luke!
WRXedUSA 05-12-2006 09:55 AM

[QUOTE=Bonzo]It looks like it will stay wet all day in Wisconsin. This is a repeat from a few years ago. IIRC a certain srt-4 did quite well that day.[/QUOTE]


Get out there and give us a play by play.
Bonzo 05-12-2006 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Get out there and give us a play by play.[/QUOTE]

I'd love to but I have a bike job that has to get done today. :mad:
CirrusWRX 05-12-2006 10:24 AM

Not sure if this image will work, but look at that mess over the entire northern midwest!
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KC 05-12-2006 10:35 AM

Yeah, and it's just sitting there.
jblaine 05-12-2006 11:38 AM

That AMS Evo is super hot looking.
trhoppe 05-12-2006 12:28 PM

Looks like a 1st OVERALL for Luke, with Jon in 3rd place. I think the straights are making up for the poor MX corner grip.

Jon is now in 3rd overall total, with Luke in 6th overall. Luke is poised to climb up big time in overall if the performance is repeated for the afternoon session and Jon would climb to 2nd if the morning is repeated. Luke is still 1st in class though by quite a margin.

-Tom
KC 05-12-2006 12:36 PM

Woohoo!! :D
DrBiggly 05-12-2006 12:48 PM

Wow. Weather certainly takes out the top class cars it would seem. Good job for both of them!

For Jon's sake I hope that the skidpad doesn't turn out to be another "wet" skidpad. Perhaps they could argue to skip that event too due to rain just like the dragstrip events were skipped? :)

-Biggly
jid2 05-12-2006 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]Looks like a 1st OVERALL for Luke, with Jon in 3rd place. I think the straights are making up for the poor MX corner grip.
-Tom[/QUOTE]

Yeah I saw a post where Jon said they headed back to the AMS shop to get ready for RA. Their plan was to up the boost and scream down the straights!
trhoppe 05-12-2006 12:59 PM

it worked well :)

Biggly - 80% chance of rain for the skidpad tomorrow.

-Tom
M. Hurst 05-12-2006 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=jid2]Yeah I saw a post where Jon said they headed back to the AMS shop to get ready for RA. Their plan was to up the boost and scream down the straights![/QUOTE]


...If it's wet, hope they stay off the racing line.

No matter what tire, when wet the racing line is like sheer ice (braking zones too as i found out in 2003)

Look for the #9 Jeep to be in the top 10 if it's raining.
CoolRex 05-12-2006 01:53 PM

That Jeep sounded wickedly loud! I was surprised at that thing.
WRXedUSA 05-12-2006 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]Looks like a 1st OVERALL for Luke, with Jon in 3rd place. I think the straights are making up for the poor MX corner grip.

Jon is now in 3rd overall total, with Luke in 6th overall. Luke is poised to climb up big time in overall if the performance is repeated for the afternoon session and Jon would climb to 2nd if the morning is repeated. Luke is still 1st in class though by quite a margin.

-Tom[/QUOTE]
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:disco: :disco:
trhoppe 05-12-2006 02:03 PM

Yup! I was talking to Luke about that this morning. He was asking about the brake zones :)

I said "its better to use the racing line brake zone, but then again, you might not be able to stop on those cause they are WAY slick" :)

-Tom
WRXedUSA 05-12-2006 02:10 PM

Looks like "the Fugitive" (Gabriele) is back in action:

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