| SolbergWRCfan | 06-14-2005 10:23 AM |
United States GP
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I work a ton this week so here are my picks before I leave on Friday morning.
1.) J.Montoya (has something to prove after stewards shafted him)
2.) K.Raikkonen (should've beat Juan, but McLaren has no team orders)
3.) F.Alonso (quick, but not quick enough)
4.) J.Button (good track for Honda power and has a car that is improving)
5.) G.Fisichella (again slower than his teammate)
6.) J.Trulli (qualifies high and fades a bit)
7.) N.Heidfeld (qualifies low and fights back up)
8.) D.Coulthard (more points for the Scot)
Jon
1.) J.Montoya (has something to prove after stewards shafted him)
2.) K.Raikkonen (should've beat Juan, but McLaren has no team orders)
3.) F.Alonso (quick, but not quick enough)
4.) J.Button (good track for Honda power and has a car that is improving)
5.) G.Fisichella (again slower than his teammate)
6.) J.Trulli (qualifies high and fades a bit)
7.) N.Heidfeld (qualifies low and fights back up)
8.) D.Coulthard (more points for the Scot)
Jon
| Dussander | 06-14-2005 11:31 AM |
I'm worried... my picks are nearly identical to Jon's...does the ground feel cold to anyone else? ;)
| Wr4wrX | 06-14-2005 01:39 PM |
Gettin' in the picks early? Okie, I'll give.
P1. Kimi (Umm... 'cause he's rulin' it?)
P2. JPM (It's gonna be tough with a bad quali position, but the McLaren has good pace.)
P3. Jenson (I think he can do it...as long as he doesn't hit any walls.)
P4. Schumi Sr. (Ferrari showed good pace, but I don't think the Scuderia are gonna luck out as much as they did in Canada.)
P5. Alonso (R25 is quick, but I think the other cars are catching up.)
P6. Webbo (Solid qualifier, Williams lacks pace.)
P7. Quick Nick (Solid racer.)
P8. Fisi (Poor guy.)
P1. Kimi (Umm... 'cause he's rulin' it?)
P2. JPM (It's gonna be tough with a bad quali position, but the McLaren has good pace.)
P3. Jenson (I think he can do it...as long as he doesn't hit any walls.)
P4. Schumi Sr. (Ferrari showed good pace, but I don't think the Scuderia are gonna luck out as much as they did in Canada.)
P5. Alonso (R25 is quick, but I think the other cars are catching up.)
P6. Webbo (Solid qualifier, Williams lacks pace.)
P7. Quick Nick (Solid racer.)
P8. Fisi (Poor guy.)
| fourdegrees | 06-14-2005 03:35 PM |
I'm sure someone has been to this GP in the past. I will be going to the Saturday practice and qualifying sessions, and wanted to know the coolest things to see and do on the day prior to the race.
| artkevin | 06-14-2005 03:47 PM |
This is on my personal like alone. Screw it, I can't do any worse.
1. JPM
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Sato
5. Hiedfeld
6. Button
7. DC
8.Fisi
p.s. I will have my art show at the downtown Hyatt if any of you want to come and check it out. I am also doing a radio interview that will be broadcast on Saturday afternoon. You can find out more details at [url]www.KevinPaigeArt.com[/url]
I can't wait for this. It should be a fantastic race.
1. JPM
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Sato
5. Hiedfeld
6. Button
7. DC
8.Fisi
p.s. I will have my art show at the downtown Hyatt if any of you want to come and check it out. I am also doing a radio interview that will be broadcast on Saturday afternoon. You can find out more details at [url]www.KevinPaigeArt.com[/url]
I can't wait for this. It should be a fantastic race.
| AndyRoo | 06-15-2005 09:37 AM |
1. K.Raikkonen
2. J.Montoya
3. M.Schumacher
4. J.Button
5. F.Alonso
6. J.Trulli
7. M.Webber
8. N.Heidfeld
2. J.Montoya
3. M.Schumacher
4. J.Button
5. F.Alonso
6. J.Trulli
7. M.Webber
8. N.Heidfeld
| Dussander | 06-15-2005 10:13 AM |
[quote]wanted to know the coolest things to see and do on the day prior to the race.[/quote]
I enjoyed walking around drinking Foster's while checking out the track and the Columbian women. There is an indoor kart track in town, but I never made it there.
I enjoyed walking around drinking Foster's while checking out the track and the Columbian women. There is an indoor kart track in town, but I never made it there.
| Dussander | 06-15-2005 11:07 AM |
As the resident Juan Fanboy, I thought I would pimp the fact that Juan will be on David Letterman this Friday. Set the TiVos.
| AndyRoo | 06-15-2005 11:12 AM |
[QUOTE=Dussander]As the resident Juan Fanboy, I thought I would pimp the fact that Juan will be on David Letterman this Friday. Set the TiVos.[/QUOTE]
nice! i will keep an eye out for that.
i can already hear my friends asking me "who is that again?" :lol:
nice! i will keep an eye out for that.
i can already hear my friends asking me "who is that again?" :lol:
| grandpa rex | 06-15-2005 02:07 PM |
I'm going out on a limb for my picks this week.
1. JPM - breaks out of his brain farts and bad luck and gets the W
2. Alonso
3. Raikkonen
4. MS
5. Button
6. Fisi
7. Trulli
8. Nick the Quick
I'm actually going to the race for the first time since 2000. Look for three old guys who've had a little too much beer.
Can't wait to hear the scream!
1. JPM - breaks out of his brain farts and bad luck and gets the W
2. Alonso
3. Raikkonen
4. MS
5. Button
6. Fisi
7. Trulli
8. Nick the Quick
I'm actually going to the race for the first time since 2000. Look for three old guys who've had a little too much beer.
Can't wait to hear the scream!
| Andrman | 06-15-2005 03:13 PM |
Have fun at the race everyone... I was supposed to go but I'm sailing in Maine instead :cool: :(
| finnRex | 06-15-2005 06:17 PM |
Kevin, no Kimi in the top 8? Well, I am going to have to disagree;).
1. Kimi- taking care of business once again.
2. JPM- 1 mistake will cause him from going from P1 to P2.
3. Michael S.- the first of the red cars(they've been strong in North America).
4. Alonso- more reserved after his wall of champions tap.
5. Trulli- Toyota in true form
6. Button- will start from pit, move up all the way 6th for points.
7. Woobens- struggling qualifying will put him out of points, but he'll find his way in.
8. D.C.- Red Bull in the points.
Mika
1. Kimi- taking care of business once again.
2. JPM- 1 mistake will cause him from going from P1 to P2.
3. Michael S.- the first of the red cars(they've been strong in North America).
4. Alonso- more reserved after his wall of champions tap.
5. Trulli- Toyota in true form
6. Button- will start from pit, move up all the way 6th for points.
7. Woobens- struggling qualifying will put him out of points, but he'll find his way in.
8. D.C.- Red Bull in the points.
Mika
| Wr4wrX | 06-15-2005 06:42 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Kevin, no Kimi in the top 8? Well, I am going to have to disagree;).
Mika[/QUOTE]
Mika, no Williams in the top 8? ;) / :(
Mika[/QUOTE]
Mika, no Williams in the top 8? ;) / :(
| artkevin | 06-15-2005 07:11 PM |
Sorry Mika about the lack of Finn support this race. As I said, i suck at this so he'll probably win which I am cool with. I want the championships to go to the wire so whatever.
Give me a call when you get into the city. Well need to meet up. Ill be there Thursday seting up the show.
KP
Give me a call when you get into the city. Well need to meet up. Ill be there Thursday seting up the show.
KP
| finnRex | 06-15-2005 07:16 PM |
McLaren has a really strong car this year, and they've had some odd misfortunes, but nowhere near as bad as they've had with the past few years. Ferrari is there simply because they are Ferrari, and they run strong in N.A. Alonso will be there, as well as Trulli and Button. D.C. is a former McLaren driver, so I'm a bit biased with that.
Now with Ralf, I think he may be a bit cautious after last years shunt. I'd pick Heidfeld, 'cuz he's pretty solid. If I had to pick which Williams, it'll be Heidfeld. He's impressed me the past season or two.
Mika(no hard feelings, right?;) )
Now with Ralf, I think he may be a bit cautious after last years shunt. I'd pick Heidfeld, 'cuz he's pretty solid. If I had to pick which Williams, it'll be Heidfeld. He's impressed me the past season or two.
Mika(no hard feelings, right?;) )
| MattDell | 06-15-2005 08:09 PM |
Can someone post that Pick 8 game link again?
| Wr4wrX | 06-15-2005 08:28 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]McLaren has a really strong car this year, and they've had some odd misfortunes, but nowhere near as bad as they've had with the past few years. Ferrari is there simply because they are Ferrari, and they run strong in N.A. Alonso will be there, as well as Trulli and Button. D.C. is a former McLaren driver, so I'm a bit biased with that.
Now with Ralf, I think he may be a bit cautious after last years shunt. I'd pick Heidfeld, 'cuz he's pretty solid. If I had to pick which Williams, it'll be Heidfeld. He's impressed me the past season or two.
Mika(no hard feelings, right?;) )[/QUOTE]
Fair 'nough. :)
[QUOTE=MattDell]Can someone post that Pick 8 game link again?[/QUOTE]
[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/]Is this the one you're lookin' for?[/URL]
Now with Ralf, I think he may be a bit cautious after last years shunt. I'd pick Heidfeld, 'cuz he's pretty solid. If I had to pick which Williams, it'll be Heidfeld. He's impressed me the past season or two.
Mika(no hard feelings, right?;) )[/QUOTE]
Fair 'nough. :)
[QUOTE=MattDell]Can someone post that Pick 8 game link again?[/QUOTE]
[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/]Is this the one you're lookin' for?[/URL]
| mno | 06-15-2005 08:39 PM |
1.Kimi
2.Alonso
3.MS
4.JPM
5.Button
6.Speed - After DC crashes in practice and we get see an American in the points
It's fun to dream ...... See you there!!!!!!!
2.Alonso
3.MS
4.JPM
5.Button
6.Speed - After DC crashes in practice and we get see an American in the points
It's fun to dream ...... See you there!!!!!!!
| Wr4wrX | 06-15-2005 09:39 PM |
[QUOTE=mno]1.Kimi
2.Alonso
3.MS
4.JPM
5.Button
6.Speed - After DC crashes in practice and we get see an American in the points
It's fun to dream ...... See you there!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: Awesome! :)
2.Alonso
3.MS
4.JPM
5.Button
6.Speed - After DC crashes in practice and we get see an American in the points
It's fun to dream ...... See you there!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: Awesome! :)
| MattDell | 06-15-2005 09:46 PM |
[QUOTE=Wr4wrX][URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/]Is this the one you're lookin' for?[/URL][/QUOTE]
Yep, that's it! Thanks! :)
What I picked:
1) Kimi Raikkonen
2) Fernando Alonso
3) Juan Pablo Montoya
4) Jenson Button
5) Ralf Schumacher
6) Nick Heidfeld
7) Michael Schumacher
8) David Coulthard
Yeah, some of them are "hopefuls." We'll just assume Trulli wrecks at the start. ;)
-Matt
Yep, that's it! Thanks! :)
What I picked:
1) Kimi Raikkonen
2) Fernando Alonso
3) Juan Pablo Montoya
4) Jenson Button
5) Ralf Schumacher
6) Nick Heidfeld
7) Michael Schumacher
8) David Coulthard
Yeah, some of them are "hopefuls." We'll just assume Trulli wrecks at the start. ;)
-Matt
| OnTheGas | 06-16-2005 02:10 PM |
My Picks!
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Wish I was going this year... haven't been since 2000. :( Being at the race beats watching it on the boob tube everytime. My recomendation for you attendees: bring or buy a decent stop watch (cheap ones are at sporting goods stores, and radio shack), so you can "gap" cars to see if one guy is actually catching another, or time various folks laps to see how much faster some folks are. Enjoy!
Here's my picks:[list=1][*][b]Kimi[/b] He clicks off fast laps like a metronome![*][b]Juan[/b] - Nice to see him comfortable and fast again![*][b]Fernando[/b] - The infield will eat Renault's tires, and the Mercedes is stronger.[*][b]Giancarlo[/b] - Nice to see him up to speed... But Fernando can be a little faster.[*][b]Michael[/b] - Ferrari Bridgestone is a very stout race package. Look for late race strength from the red cars.[*][b]Rubens[/b][*][b]Jenson[/b] - Button set some impressive lap times in Canada B4 he tossed it off...[*][b]Nick[/b] - He is very impressive, and Indy will reward him.[/list]
Here's my picks:[list=1][*][b]Kimi[/b] He clicks off fast laps like a metronome![*][b]Juan[/b] - Nice to see him comfortable and fast again![*][b]Fernando[/b] - The infield will eat Renault's tires, and the Mercedes is stronger.[*][b]Giancarlo[/b] - Nice to see him up to speed... But Fernando can be a little faster.[*][b]Michael[/b] - Ferrari Bridgestone is a very stout race package. Look for late race strength from the red cars.[*][b]Rubens[/b][*][b]Jenson[/b] - Button set some impressive lap times in Canada B4 he tossed it off...[*][b]Nick[/b] - He is very impressive, and Indy will reward him.[/list]
| bemani | 06-16-2005 03:37 PM |
OMG Speed has [b]FOUR[/b] hours of coverage tomorrow. 9-1pm PDT.
| rupertberr | 06-16-2005 07:56 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani]OMG Speed has [b]FOUR[/b] hours of coverage tomorrow. 9-1pm PDT.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess I'm not getting anything done tomorrow. Canada GP rebroadcast is tomorrow night as well, 9 PM PST. Missed the CBS coverage so I have to see that too. :D
Here are my motorsport.com picks:
US;
K.Raikkonen - Only mechanical or driver error can stop him right now.
F.Alonso - Back on track
J.Montoya - If he pulls his head out
G.Fisichella - He can't have bad luck at every race
J.Trulli - Yep
M.Schumacher - Lucky to be second at Canada
N.Heidfeld - Start fast, fade late
R.Barrichello - Start slow, fast late
Well I guess I'm not getting anything done tomorrow. Canada GP rebroadcast is tomorrow night as well, 9 PM PST. Missed the CBS coverage so I have to see that too. :D
Here are my motorsport.com picks:
US;
K.Raikkonen - Only mechanical or driver error can stop him right now.
F.Alonso - Back on track
J.Montoya - If he pulls his head out
G.Fisichella - He can't have bad luck at every race
J.Trulli - Yep
M.Schumacher - Lucky to be second at Canada
N.Heidfeld - Start fast, fade late
R.Barrichello - Start slow, fast late
| finnRex | 06-16-2005 10:29 PM |
[QUOTE=Wr4wrX]Fair 'nough. :)[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, next race both Williams will be in my top 8:)
Mika
Don't worry, next race both Williams will be in my top 8:)
Mika
| Wr4wrX | 06-17-2005 01:55 AM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Don't worry, next race both Williams will be in my top 8:)
Mika[/QUOTE]
:lol: Awesome. :)
Mika[/QUOTE]
:lol: Awesome. :)
| finnRex | 06-17-2005 03:17 PM |
For those who didn't see it, Ralf had a shunt. Again, in turn 13. Word is that the aero design on the Toyota is very low and it bottomed out...
But the good news, he walked away under his own power.
Mika
But the good news, he walked away under his own power.
Mika
| bemani | 06-17-2005 04:05 PM |
Saw the crash during lunch. :eek: at Ralf. Same corner as last year.
Big panic at Michelin camp.
Big panic at Michelin camp.
| driggity | 06-17-2005 05:20 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Word is that the aero design on the Toyota is very low and it bottomed out...
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Where did you hear that? They were definitely too low early in the first session but it seemed like they resolved that. It didn't look like he was scraping anymore than normal when the failure happened. And Zonta definitely wasn't scraping when his right rear failed. And considering that they put Zonta's car back together and sent him out at the end of the session I think that tire issues are more likely.
I really do need to remember to add extra time to my F1 recordings though since I missed the last 20 minutes of practice because of the delays. Would have been nice to see Scott Speed actually turn that quick lap that he did.
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Where did you hear that? They were definitely too low early in the first session but it seemed like they resolved that. It didn't look like he was scraping anymore than normal when the failure happened. And Zonta definitely wasn't scraping when his right rear failed. And considering that they put Zonta's car back together and sent him out at the end of the session I think that tire issues are more likely.
I really do need to remember to add extra time to my F1 recordings though since I missed the last 20 minutes of practice because of the delays. Would have been nice to see Scott Speed actually turn that quick lap that he did.
| rupertberr | 06-17-2005 05:24 PM |
Looks like it was the tires. Michelin told the teams to put more air in and pulled some of the cars. Machett (sp) was talking about the huge pressure differences between oval and road racing and Indy is a difficult compromise. Trulli did a couple of late laps.
| ArtGecko | 06-17-2005 06:52 PM |
Arggg! lost track of time and didn't get my picks in this week, so I automatically roll over to last week's.
Which aren't too bad:
K.Raikkonen
F.Alonso
M.Schumacher
N.Heidfeld
J.Trulli
D.Coulthard
J.Montoya
R.Barrichello
Steve
Which aren't too bad:
K.Raikkonen
F.Alonso
M.Schumacher
N.Heidfeld
J.Trulli
D.Coulthard
J.Montoya
R.Barrichello
Steve
| NapTown2.5rs | 06-17-2005 07:29 PM |
I'll go ahead and throw in my picks since I get to spend the next two days basking in the glow of beautiful cars, beautiful women and beer at the track!
1: Riakkonen
2: Montoya
3: F. Alonso
4: M. Schumacher
5: Coulthard
6: Button
7: Barrichelo
8: Heidfeld or Fisi
1: Riakkonen
2: Montoya
3: F. Alonso
4: M. Schumacher
5: Coulthard
6: Button
7: Barrichelo
8: Heidfeld or Fisi
| driggity | 06-17-2005 09:24 PM |
Oh, one question from Speed's coverage today. They mention that some people supposedly saw the Ferrari tires getting shaved before qualifying in Montreal. I hadn't heard anything about this. Anyone have more information?
| OnTheGas | 06-17-2005 09:32 PM |
Reading The Tea Leaves Friday Afternoon...
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Practice sessions are like reading tea-leaves, but McLaren, Renault, Ferrari, Toyota, Williams, Red Bull are all showing strength on Friday. I didn't mention BAR... I expect them to be strong here, but they did not turn fast times today...
Indy is more of an engineering track, than a drivers track. Historically, Indy has rewarded some agressive drivers, by enabling on track passing. But car set-up is key, because if a car has the wings layed down too much, a driver loses too much time in the Mickey Mouse infield to be able to run down his opponent once they hit the straight.
Red Bull is rolling in with a new engine upgrade this weekend. They really needed it, looking at their laptimes during the race at Canada. Today's practice sessions show that they may be in the hunt for points here at Indy. If you picked DC for lesser points, you may be well rewarded. (Nice to see Scott Speed doing well in the cockpit... faster than Klein in both sessions, and faster than Klein and Coulthard in the first session last Friday at Canada.)
On Sunday, tire wear should be an issue. The track will change as it rubbers in, but look for folks to be concerned about their rear tires. Indy will leave a driver vulnerable if he drives his tires off, because it is not difficult to pass on track here.
Michelin said they will expect to have an analysis of Ralph's tire failure done by tomorrow morning.
Indy is more of an engineering track, than a drivers track. Historically, Indy has rewarded some agressive drivers, by enabling on track passing. But car set-up is key, because if a car has the wings layed down too much, a driver loses too much time in the Mickey Mouse infield to be able to run down his opponent once they hit the straight.
Red Bull is rolling in with a new engine upgrade this weekend. They really needed it, looking at their laptimes during the race at Canada. Today's practice sessions show that they may be in the hunt for points here at Indy. If you picked DC for lesser points, you may be well rewarded. (Nice to see Scott Speed doing well in the cockpit... faster than Klein in both sessions, and faster than Klein and Coulthard in the first session last Friday at Canada.)
On Sunday, tire wear should be an issue. The track will change as it rubbers in, but look for folks to be concerned about their rear tires. Indy will leave a driver vulnerable if he drives his tires off, because it is not difficult to pass on track here.
Michelin said they will expect to have an analysis of Ralph's tire failure done by tomorrow morning.
| bal00 | 06-18-2005 11:41 AM |
Just watched an interview with Ralf and he said he'd be very surprised if the Michelin drivers will even run in the race the way things are looking now. Hardly any Michelin-equipped cars did a timed lap in the 3rd free practice session, and according to a Michelin spokesperson they haven't figured out the cause of the failure yet. Sounds pretty serious.
| Bonzo | 06-18-2005 10:50 PM |
Speed is reporting 7 Michelin teams will not race unless a chicane is installed..
In a way I'm diggin this. Anything to upset Tony's apple cart is fine by me.
Next year just move the USGP north about 6.5 hours to a real road course like Road America and I will be a happy camper. :D
In a way I'm diggin this. Anything to upset Tony's apple cart is fine by me.
Next year just move the USGP north about 6.5 hours to a real road course like Road America and I will be a happy camper. :D
| WRSport | 06-18-2005 11:07 PM |
[url]http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/050618184020.shtml[/url]
Michelin, in talks with the FIA, are looking at the feasibility of flying in a completely new batch of tyres from its French base for use in the race, but this requires authorisation from the FIA and agreement from Bridgestone.
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�We fully support Michelin in this situation, and in the efforts they are making to best resolve it. They are flying out different tyres to use in tomorrow�s race � the same that were used in Barcelona for the Spanish Grand Prix,� explained Briatore. �The authorisation to use them has not yet been granted, but if that were not given, we would not compete in tomorrow�s race. The safety of our drivers remains our number one priority.�
Michelin, in talks with the FIA, are looking at the feasibility of flying in a completely new batch of tyres from its French base for use in the race, but this requires authorisation from the FIA and agreement from Bridgestone.
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�We fully support Michelin in this situation, and in the efforts they are making to best resolve it. They are flying out different tyres to use in tomorrow�s race � the same that were used in Barcelona for the Spanish Grand Prix,� explained Briatore. �The authorisation to use them has not yet been granted, but if that were not given, we would not compete in tomorrow�s race. The safety of our drivers remains our number one priority.�
| srf | 06-18-2005 11:36 PM |
I'll say Jenson or Kimi. Anyone but JPM!
| i_c_the_light | 06-19-2005 03:28 AM |
Michelin and the teams they supply have a lot of leverage with the FIA in this matter. Considering that there has to be a minimum of 8 cars on the grid for the GP to even start. Now how many teams does Bridgestone supply to?
| bal00 | 06-19-2005 03:35 AM |
Three.
On a related note:
The option of using the Barcelona tires imported from Clermont-Ferrand has in effect been abandoned. Teams decided that they had no real information about whether they would last, and also there was no firm knowledge about what penalties might ensue if they were used, although it is understood that the FIA had informally suggested that something like a 10 second stop-and-go rather than exclusion.
The seven Michelin teams have agreed that they will only race in the USGP if a chicane is fitted before the banked Turn 13 overnight.
However, the practicalities are insurmountable in terms of designing a chicane, building it, and ensuring that it is safe. Changes to tracks go through a strict homologation process. All those jobs are the responsibility of Charlie Whiting.
As of 8 p.m. Saturday night, nothing was being done to put the process into motion, and we understand that while Bernie wants it to happen, there are too many hurdles to be overcome in terms of safety. We understand that Whiting has resisted pressure from Ecclestone to make it happen, comewhat may.
[url]http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/17692/[/url]
This is gonna be interesting. Maybe we'll see them racing rebtal Neons or bicycles? :)
On a related note:
The option of using the Barcelona tires imported from Clermont-Ferrand has in effect been abandoned. Teams decided that they had no real information about whether they would last, and also there was no firm knowledge about what penalties might ensue if they were used, although it is understood that the FIA had informally suggested that something like a 10 second stop-and-go rather than exclusion.
The seven Michelin teams have agreed that they will only race in the USGP if a chicane is fitted before the banked Turn 13 overnight.
However, the practicalities are insurmountable in terms of designing a chicane, building it, and ensuring that it is safe. Changes to tracks go through a strict homologation process. All those jobs are the responsibility of Charlie Whiting.
As of 8 p.m. Saturday night, nothing was being done to put the process into motion, and we understand that while Bernie wants it to happen, there are too many hurdles to be overcome in terms of safety. We understand that Whiting has resisted pressure from Ecclestone to make it happen, comewhat may.
[url]http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/17692/[/url]
This is gonna be interesting. Maybe we'll see them racing rebtal Neons or bicycles? :)
| Bort | 06-19-2005 07:10 AM |
Too bad this Michelin debacle isn't happening in the WRC instead.
| srf | 06-19-2005 09:19 AM |
[QUOTE=i_c_the_light]Michelin and the teams they supply have a lot of leverage with the FIA in this matter. Considering that there has to be a minimum of 8 cars on the grid for the GP to even start. Now how many teams does Bridgestone supply to?[/QUOTE]
There are 6 cars on Bridgestone according to AtlasF1.
There are 6 cars on Bridgestone according to AtlasF1.
| bemani | 06-19-2005 10:21 AM |
Chicane? Maybe they should just slow the hell down themselves.
I can't believe they even have the nerve to suggest that when it is all because of the incompetencey of Michelin.
I can't believe they even have the nerve to suggest that when it is all because of the incompetencey of Michelin.
| pittspilot | 06-19-2005 11:45 AM |
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?series=f1&id=2089760[/url]
Sounds like FIA has told Michelin and the assorted teams to go and fly a kite.
Sounds like FIA has told Michelin and the assorted teams to go and fly a kite.
| TheVampire | 06-19-2005 11:50 AM |
[QUOTE=Bonzo]Speed is reporting 7 Michelin teams will not race unless a chicane is installed..
In a way I'm diggin this. Anything to upset Tony's apple cart is fine by me.
Next year just move the USGP north about 6.5 hours to a real road course like Road America and I will be a happy camper. :D[/QUOTE]
It never should have been at indy in the first place.
In a way I'm diggin this. Anything to upset Tony's apple cart is fine by me.
Next year just move the USGP north about 6.5 hours to a real road course like Road America and I will be a happy camper. :D[/QUOTE]
It never should have been at indy in the first place.
| jesse370 | 06-19-2005 12:29 PM |
Or just go back to watkins glenn...
| REX8 | 06-19-2005 12:34 PM |
I think the problem with the other tracks is making them meet safety regulations. I heard it would be near impossible to make many of those other venues conform to FIA regulations. Any word what the teams are going to do this afternoon? I guess we'll find out soon enough...
| Rapid_Roo | 06-19-2005 01:38 PM |
[QUOTE=REX8]I think the problem with the other tracks is making them meet safety regulations. I heard it would be near impossible to make many of those other venues conform to FIA regulations. Any word what the teams are going to do this afternoon? I guess we'll find out soon enough...[/QUOTE]
it isn't just safety standards that they need to meet. The FIA stipulates certain requirements for Pit and Media ammenenities. There has been talk of bringing the GP to Laguna Seca, the track could be made to meet the Safetey requirements, but the Pits were another story, and the owners of the track haven't had the capital for it. Maybe Fontana Speedway would have a good shot at it. maybe.
RR :D
it isn't just safety standards that they need to meet. The FIA stipulates certain requirements for Pit and Media ammenenities. There has been talk of bringing the GP to Laguna Seca, the track could be made to meet the Safetey requirements, but the Pits were another story, and the owners of the track haven't had the capital for it. Maybe Fontana Speedway would have a good shot at it. maybe.
RR :D
| MK19_ | 06-19-2005 01:38 PM |
No F1 USGP???
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Tyre issues with Michelin may not allow them to race today!!!! OMG this is wild. It seems that Michelin will not allow teams to run the tyres they have due to 2 crashes during qualifying last week. This could certainly make for an interesting event- and not necessarily in a good way :(
| Arnie | 06-19-2005 01:41 PM |
Anyone know if CBS is broadcasting F1 today? I caught the last few laps last week and was surprised the race was even broadcast on free TV ( i don't have SPEED).
| psg | 06-19-2005 01:43 PM |
Michelin, not Goodyear
| psg | 06-19-2005 01:44 PM |
Nope, no CBS today. CBS is showing the Champ Car race at Portland this morning, though.
| Arnie | 06-19-2005 01:44 PM |
thanks! Ah well.
| StuBeck | 06-19-2005 01:44 PM |
No, they are not.
| MK19_ | 06-19-2005 01:54 PM |
Now they are saying some drivers may pit in protest to running on what apparantly seems to be unsure/unsafe tyres.
| CirrusWRX | 06-19-2005 01:59 PM |
This is such a tough call, but my g/f brought up a good point- because 14/20 teams are Michi, what's to say that Bridgestone can't (won't) suffer the same fate?
On the other hand, it's such a tough call when you're dealing with a potential deadly safety issue... On the OTHER OTHER hand, Ferrari can just say "F YOU!" We're ready to go, and if you have to take turn 13 at 100mph, tough ****- see you at the finish line!
Heh - maybe this will be the race where passing will be more numerous than NASCAR :lol:
On the other hand, it's such a tough call when you're dealing with a potential deadly safety issue... On the OTHER OTHER hand, Ferrari can just say "F YOU!" We're ready to go, and if you have to take turn 13 at 100mph, tough ****- see you at the finish line!
Heh - maybe this will be the race where passing will be more numerous than NASCAR :lol:
| MK19_ | 06-19-2005 02:02 PM |
OMG, teams are pitting!!!!!
| MK19_ | 06-19-2005 02:03 PM |
A "world record" start of 6 cars!!!!!!!!!!
| Patrick L | 06-19-2005 02:04 PM |
Screw you Berny
| CirrusWRX | 06-19-2005 02:04 PM |
6 cars on course!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Crowds are boo'ing, thumbs down?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Crowds are boo'ing, thumbs down?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
| CirrusWRX | 06-19-2005 02:05 PM |
"I can't believe formula 1 could shoot themselves in the foot so seriously.."
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