| BIGSKYWRX | 04-16-2007 10:06 PM |
no pic- but if you go to subaruparts.com- I think they have a schematic showing it- IIRC someone posted up the weight and it was even more than the front one
| Phil Jr. | 04-16-2007 10:27 PM |
is the rear bumper cover hard to remove?? anyone got a how-to? maybe some pictures?
| deebee8 | 04-17-2007 01:34 AM |
by the looks of it it should be very easy,
take out the taillights
pop all the clips on the tops of the bumper, pull the clips in the rear fender wells
shouldnt be to hard at all. im intersted to know if there are any hidden ones?
take out the taillights
pop all the clips on the tops of the bumper, pull the clips in the rear fender wells
shouldnt be to hard at all. im intersted to know if there are any hidden ones?
| wuuusaa | 04-19-2007 07:39 AM |
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| BIGSKYWRX | 04-19-2007 10:01 AM |
[QUOTE=deebee8;17746646]by the looks of it it should be very easy,
take out the taillights
pop all the clips on the tops of the bumper, pull the clips in the rear fender wells
shouldnt be to hard at all. im intersted to know if there are any hidden ones?[/QUOTE]
Looking at the schematic- that's about it. Removing the rear bumper cover will reveal a similar looking beam to the front w/ the styrofoam piece over the top.
The older GC/GF offer a lightweight rear beam (jdm piece)- I've toyed w/ the idea of getting one and seeing if therre was a way to fit it. I'd rather run a lightened beam vs no beam- but 1000's of jdm new age Imprezas are getting by fine w/o one I guess :)
take out the taillights
pop all the clips on the tops of the bumper, pull the clips in the rear fender wells
shouldnt be to hard at all. im intersted to know if there are any hidden ones?[/QUOTE]
Looking at the schematic- that's about it. Removing the rear bumper cover will reveal a similar looking beam to the front w/ the styrofoam piece over the top.
The older GC/GF offer a lightweight rear beam (jdm piece)- I've toyed w/ the idea of getting one and seeing if therre was a way to fit it. I'd rather run a lightened beam vs no beam- but 1000's of jdm new age Imprezas are getting by fine w/o one I guess :)
| deebee8 | 04-19-2007 02:53 PM |
you risk running major frame damage in-case of accident..
i am currently not running one due to weight savings, unfortunatly i am forced to drive my car daily in traffic, HOWEVER, i ensure that i do not brake hard during traffic and i also leave lots of room between my car and the person in front of me, just to ensure that i dont get tagged =)
in the end its up to the owner of the vehicle.
a lightweight beam still offers more protection than running no beam at all.
if you plan on keeping your car as a daily driver, or a car that is driven reguraly in OFF-TRACK situations, i would HIGHLY recommend keeping the rear bumper beam...
i am currently not running one due to weight savings, unfortunatly i am forced to drive my car daily in traffic, HOWEVER, i ensure that i do not brake hard during traffic and i also leave lots of room between my car and the person in front of me, just to ensure that i dont get tagged =)
in the end its up to the owner of the vehicle.
a lightweight beam still offers more protection than running no beam at all.
if you plan on keeping your car as a daily driver, or a car that is driven reguraly in OFF-TRACK situations, i would HIGHLY recommend keeping the rear bumper beam...
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-19-2007 03:46 PM |
there are like 10000 things I could do to reduce weight on my car...
But most of them involve making my car:
1: noisier....
2: more dangerous...
2: and less enjoyable to drive !
so...rather than spend time ripping out sound deadening...money replacing bumper beams and the hassle of making my car alot more rattle-ie and more anoying to listen to... I will spend my money elsewhere...
I can get alot more from the money I used on a bumperbeam/lightwieght hood etc etc....on a header wrap/meth injection or new dyno tune.
I like to ENJOY driving my car....I would rather keep it that way.
But most of them involve making my car:
1: noisier....
2: more dangerous...
2: and less enjoyable to drive !
so...rather than spend time ripping out sound deadening...money replacing bumper beams and the hassle of making my car alot more rattle-ie and more anoying to listen to... I will spend my money elsewhere...
I can get alot more from the money I used on a bumperbeam/lightwieght hood etc etc....on a header wrap/meth injection or new dyno tune.
I like to ENJOY driving my car....I would rather keep it that way.
| deebee8 | 04-19-2007 10:23 PM |
Have you ever THOUGHT that others enjoy driving their car stripped???
Personally, i HATE driving my wifes FULL INTERIORED STOCK WRX>
HOWEVER< i love to drive my stripped 300 horse wrx =)
one seat, shifter, and a long skinny pedal on the right is all i need.
honestly you have probably never seen a car as stripped as mine......
ill take pictures once the stitch welding is done =)
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN TASTE, TO SOME NOISE ISNT AN ISSUE, TO OTHERS ITS MORE ENJOYABLE TO DRIVE, AND DANGEROUS IS ONLY IN THE BEHOLDER'S EYE'S.
Ive been in a horrible accident 85+ and i wont DARE have an airbag in my car again after the damage that was caused by it.....
I forget who posted in another forum, but the gist of the story was...
medics on scene say to non airbagged subie owner, "Good thing you took out that airbag, otherwise you would be laying on a stretcher right now....."
Hmmm, coming from a EMT's MOUTH that have to deal with ORGAN DONORS (motorcycle riders) all day long,
Personally, i HATE driving my wifes FULL INTERIORED STOCK WRX>
HOWEVER< i love to drive my stripped 300 horse wrx =)
one seat, shifter, and a long skinny pedal on the right is all i need.
honestly you have probably never seen a car as stripped as mine......
ill take pictures once the stitch welding is done =)
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN TASTE, TO SOME NOISE ISNT AN ISSUE, TO OTHERS ITS MORE ENJOYABLE TO DRIVE, AND DANGEROUS IS ONLY IN THE BEHOLDER'S EYE'S.
Ive been in a horrible accident 85+ and i wont DARE have an airbag in my car again after the damage that was caused by it.....
I forget who posted in another forum, but the gist of the story was...
medics on scene say to non airbagged subie owner, "Good thing you took out that airbag, otherwise you would be laying on a stretcher right now....."
Hmmm, coming from a EMT's MOUTH that have to deal with ORGAN DONORS (motorcycle riders) all day long,
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-20-2007 09:17 AM |
^ airbags never work anyway :p
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-20-2007 10:07 AM |
quick note on bumper beams- these devices are to designed to lessen monetary damage in a low speed wreck (there is a specific test done to reveal this)- these aren't really "safety" devices (I guess they do protect your pocket book and probably why they were instituted is they protect the insurance companies pocket book-whihc indirectly protects your pocket book :)). In Japan and elsewhere they have a lower threshold on low speed crashes- hence the lighter beam in front and w/ the "new age" no rear beam at all.
Not recommending anyone remove/swap them, but I can tell you that the Japanese are pretty high on safety and that the Impreza drivers in Japan aren't at increased risk of getting killed/maimed due to the absence of these devices.
Not recommending anyone remove/swap them, but I can tell you that the Japanese are pretty high on safety and that the Impreza drivers in Japan aren't at increased risk of getting killed/maimed due to the absence of these devices.
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-20-2007 10:44 AM |
^ so are they just as effective in a high speed crash?
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-20-2007 02:54 PM |
the beams aren't even part of the high speed crash equation
| deebee8 | 04-20-2007 03:13 PM |
quick note on bumper beams- these devices are to designed to lessen monetary damage in a low speed wreck (there is a specific test done to reveal this)- these aren't really "safety" devices (I guess they do protect your pocket book and probably why they were instituted is they protect the insurance companies pocket book-whihc indirectly protects your pocket book ). In Japan and elsewhere they have a lower threshold on low speed crashes- hence the lighter beam in front and w/ the "new age" no rear beam at all.
Not recommending anyone remove/swap them, but I can tell you that the Japanese are pretty high on safety and that the Impreza drivers in Japan aren't at increased risk of getting killed/maimed due to the absence of these devices.
^^^^ This guys got the correct idea =)
basically its to save all your other bodypanels from becoming obliterated <25 mph
Not recommending anyone remove/swap them, but I can tell you that the Japanese are pretty high on safety and that the Impreza drivers in Japan aren't at increased risk of getting killed/maimed due to the absence of these devices.
^^^^ This guys got the correct idea =)
basically its to save all your other bodypanels from becoming obliterated <25 mph
| rallydriverosix | 04-20-2007 07:11 PM |
what bout replacing the sunroof with a fixed roof
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-20-2007 07:15 PM |
who the heck has a sunroof :D
| aspera | 04-21-2007 08:48 PM |
[QUOTE=BIGSKYWRX;17797578]who the heck has a sunroof :D[/QUOTE]
Word. :p
This really isn't the right thread, but I'm curious about update-backdate with parts from the new hatchback Impreza. Specifically I'm curious to find out more info on the rear suspension.
Here's what I'm wishing;
The new rear suspension is lighter and bolts to earlier Imprezas, and that it places the springs and dampers away from the normal strut position in the wheel well.
That would leave loads of extra room in the wheel well for wide tires. Anybody got pictures of the new suspension yet?
Word. :p
This really isn't the right thread, but I'm curious about update-backdate with parts from the new hatchback Impreza. Specifically I'm curious to find out more info on the rear suspension.
Here's what I'm wishing;
The new rear suspension is lighter and bolts to earlier Imprezas, and that it places the springs and dampers away from the normal strut position in the wheel well.
That would leave loads of extra room in the wheel well for wide tires. Anybody got pictures of the new suspension yet?
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-21-2007 10:15 PM |
there is a pic (drawing) of it in the suspension forum- not quite Legacy, not quite Tribeca- still a double wishbone of sorts though- not sure if there is any extra room though
| snowcrzy | 04-21-2007 11:40 PM |
What's the weight difference with or without a sunroof?
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???
| digitalboy40 | 04-21-2007 11:48 PM |
[QUOTE=snowcrzy;17807264]What's the weight difference with or without a sunroof?
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???[/QUOTE]
Don't forget about all the little parts up there that make the sunroof work...
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???[/QUOTE]
Don't forget about all the little parts up there that make the sunroof work...
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-22-2007 10:15 AM |
Quite a bit actually- "06 WRX TR sdn M 3192 (sunroof 3234)"- from this thread
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=915025&highlight=weight+sunroof[/url]
about 40 lbs- it's also at the very top of the vehicle- a place that is good to shed weight
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=915025&highlight=weight+sunroof[/url]
about 40 lbs- it's also at the very top of the vehicle- a place that is good to shed weight
| kreature12 | 04-22-2007 08:20 PM |
Just something i noticed while reading this thread is that everbody has been coming up with ways to remove weight from the car but forgetting the most important aspect of removing weight, which is where you remove it from. A 100 pound weight savings in the middle of the car will not be as effective as 50 for the ends, or 25 from the unsprung weight of the car, so here is a little explanation of not just how to remove weight, but where to remove it from in order to get the best results:
1> the absolute most important place to remove weight from is the unsprung weight(meaning the weight not supported by the suspension).Unsprung weight has the biggest effect of all on accelerations, braking, parts wear, etc. It does this because of reducing the rotational inertia of each corner of the car. Rotational inertia plays a much greater role in how your car behaves and how quick it is around a track than just stripping it out. FOr instance A set of lightweight wheels/ brake rotors etc. will be more noticeable on a track than gutting you interior. Don't believe me ask any pro-race team. This is also the reason cars with 19" rims feel like pigs compared to the same car with a 17" rim (in the WRX case) around a track.
2> Sprung Weight (or everything supported by the suspension).
The most important area to remove weight from the rest of your car is around the ends of you car because this area has the greatest affect on polar movement(how quickly the car turns in, how resposive it is etc.) The aforementioned light bumber beams are worth more than just their 30 pounds weight savings here because the weight savings comes at the extreme ends of the car where the weight is felt the most on a track. To go along with that a light weight battery, fiberglass/ carbon fiber bumpers/hoods all help reduce the polar movement of the car.
Next when you start getting into the middle of the car weight distribution come into play also, removing weight from up high has more of an impact than down low, for instance lightweight seats that save 20lbs will afford a lower center of gravity for the car than removing 20 lbs of tar from the floor. The best thing you can do to lower the center of gravity is to ditch the windows for lexan if you want to go really serious.
3> Drivetrain: the last bit about weight savings is in the drivetrain, you might want to drop 200 lbs off your car but droping 5 of you drivetrain will yield the same results. A lightweight crank pulley will affect the responsivness of you car equivalent to putting it on a 100 pound diet.
Conc: Yes you can easily remove 200 pounds from you car, but "strategic" weight reduction will yield much more positive results. I too am planning on stripping 200 pounds out of my 06 wrx and if you want to know what i am doing here it is:
Lightweight 17" wheels 30lbs
Lightweight bumber beams 30lbs
Carbon fiber hood/trunk 20-30lbs
Lightweight Battery 12 lbs
lightweight racing seats 40-50lbs
remove spare/jack 30lbs
Full titanium exhaust?incl. piping 40 lbs
crosslock subframe 40lbs
carbon fiber fenders 5-10lbs
carbon fiber mirrors 2-5lbs
lightweight crank pulley 5lbs
lightweight flywheel 5lbs
---that alone is damn near 200 pounds, for more i may go with lexan windows.
1> the absolute most important place to remove weight from is the unsprung weight(meaning the weight not supported by the suspension).Unsprung weight has the biggest effect of all on accelerations, braking, parts wear, etc. It does this because of reducing the rotational inertia of each corner of the car. Rotational inertia plays a much greater role in how your car behaves and how quick it is around a track than just stripping it out. FOr instance A set of lightweight wheels/ brake rotors etc. will be more noticeable on a track than gutting you interior. Don't believe me ask any pro-race team. This is also the reason cars with 19" rims feel like pigs compared to the same car with a 17" rim (in the WRX case) around a track.
2> Sprung Weight (or everything supported by the suspension).
The most important area to remove weight from the rest of your car is around the ends of you car because this area has the greatest affect on polar movement(how quickly the car turns in, how resposive it is etc.) The aforementioned light bumber beams are worth more than just their 30 pounds weight savings here because the weight savings comes at the extreme ends of the car where the weight is felt the most on a track. To go along with that a light weight battery, fiberglass/ carbon fiber bumpers/hoods all help reduce the polar movement of the car.
Next when you start getting into the middle of the car weight distribution come into play also, removing weight from up high has more of an impact than down low, for instance lightweight seats that save 20lbs will afford a lower center of gravity for the car than removing 20 lbs of tar from the floor. The best thing you can do to lower the center of gravity is to ditch the windows for lexan if you want to go really serious.
3> Drivetrain: the last bit about weight savings is in the drivetrain, you might want to drop 200 lbs off your car but droping 5 of you drivetrain will yield the same results. A lightweight crank pulley will affect the responsivness of you car equivalent to putting it on a 100 pound diet.
Conc: Yes you can easily remove 200 pounds from you car, but "strategic" weight reduction will yield much more positive results. I too am planning on stripping 200 pounds out of my 06 wrx and if you want to know what i am doing here it is:
Lightweight 17" wheels 30lbs
Lightweight bumber beams 30lbs
Carbon fiber hood/trunk 20-30lbs
Lightweight Battery 12 lbs
lightweight racing seats 40-50lbs
remove spare/jack 30lbs
Full titanium exhaust?incl. piping 40 lbs
crosslock subframe 40lbs
carbon fiber fenders 5-10lbs
carbon fiber mirrors 2-5lbs
lightweight crank pulley 5lbs
lightweight flywheel 5lbs
---that alone is damn near 200 pounds, for more i may go with lexan windows.
| pauls07wrx | 04-22-2007 08:42 PM |
I cant see going with anylighter weight fenders.
these fenders are like paper i can barley put any weight on them and they fold ???
these fenders are like paper i can barley put any weight on them and they fold ???
| C-Rock | 04-22-2007 08:46 PM |
^thanks kreature
| aspera | 04-22-2007 08:59 PM |
Yeah, we know all that already. That's old hotrodding knowledge.
That's why old hotrodders used magnesium wheels, used inboard rear brakes, removed the front fenders, and chopped the tops. Some of those Deuce coupes are really light.
Speaking of old hotrod tech, how about a chopped and sectioned WRX? :D Channel in a full frame under the unibody and delete the rocker panels...
Okay, enough crazy talk. What I'd really like to see is an engine lowering kit. Lower the engine and transaxle a centimeter lets you lower the heavy parts of the car but keeps the tires from rubbing the fenders.
That's why old hotrodders used magnesium wheels, used inboard rear brakes, removed the front fenders, and chopped the tops. Some of those Deuce coupes are really light.
Speaking of old hotrod tech, how about a chopped and sectioned WRX? :D Channel in a full frame under the unibody and delete the rocker panels...
Okay, enough crazy talk. What I'd really like to see is an engine lowering kit. Lower the engine and transaxle a centimeter lets you lower the heavy parts of the car but keeps the tires from rubbing the fenders.
| Psybin | 04-23-2007 04:55 PM |
The engine in the 08 is lower, i haven�t read any specifics on how much lower though.
| wileecoyote | 04-23-2007 11:11 PM |
[QUOTE=BIGSKYWRX;17797578]who the heck has a sunroof :D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=rallydriverosix;17797545]what bout replacing the sunroof with a fixed roof[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=snowcrzy;17807264]What's the weight difference with or without a sunroof?
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=digitalboy40;17807321]Don't forget about all the little parts up there that make the sunroof work...[/QUOTE]
I actually removed my wrx roof(with sunroof) and get a fixed spec-c roof
to replace it. the weight difference is more than 10kg. Remember it's also
at the top of your car,think about the CG. :)
[QUOTE=rallydriverosix;17797545]what bout replacing the sunroof with a fixed roof[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=snowcrzy;17807264]What's the weight difference with or without a sunroof?
You loose roof metal when you put the glass/hardware in but how much weight do you actually gain???[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=digitalboy40;17807321]Don't forget about all the little parts up there that make the sunroof work...[/QUOTE]
I actually removed my wrx roof(with sunroof) and get a fixed spec-c roof
to replace it. the weight difference is more than 10kg. Remember it's also
at the top of your car,think about the CG. :)
| rallydriverosix | 04-24-2007 01:27 AM |
isnt the GC series known to have weak a chassis. Wouldnt this also decrease the flex of the chassis too? so its like a double plus
| rallydriverosix | 04-24-2007 01:28 AM |
ohh and go for lightweight coilovers, save maybe like 2-5 lbs in each corner
| joooo | 04-24-2007 03:21 AM |
YaHoo Auction and cheap Japanese car.
Interesting one
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Interesting one
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| IllNastyImpreza | 04-24-2007 08:27 AM |
[QUOTE=rallydriverosix;17830985]isnt the GC series known to have weak a chassis. Wouldnt this also decrease the flex of the chassis too? so its like a double plus[/QUOTE]
A "weak" chassis? are you serious? :lol:
actualy, when they made the wrx they wanted to stiffen it up a little bit, thats why the new 4 doors are all BOATS :p
A "weak" chassis? are you serious? :lol:
actualy, when they made the wrx they wanted to stiffen it up a little bit, thats why the new 4 doors are all BOATS :p
| aspera | 04-24-2007 11:39 PM |
[QUOTE=IllNastyImpreza;17832339] That's why the new 4 doors are all TANKS. :p[/QUOTE]
fixed
fixed
| BIGSKYWRX | 04-26-2007 10:48 PM |
They certainly have given up weight to the earlier GC/GF's, but the torisional stiffness of the "new age" is significantly higher vs the GC/GF's- everything comes at a price :)
| AcquaCow | 04-27-2007 01:20 PM |
[quote=Uncle Scotty;7818646]Like mine :D
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/unclescotty/102-0212_IMG.jpg[/IMG]
The battery....[URL]http://www.batterymart.com/pdf_files/odyssey_guide.pdf[/URL][/quote]
God, I wish I saw this earlier...
I've had the PC680 for a while...I even bought the metal bracket so that I could mount it in my trunk, but I had no clue how I was going to keep things from hitting the terminals...
I was just thinking that I could literally fit the battery AND the bracket inside that lunchbox and then zip it up for protection...
It's that or get a tupperware container and mount it inside that with the lid on the side...
-- Dave
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/unclescotty/102-0212_IMG.jpg[/IMG]
The battery....[URL]http://www.batterymart.com/pdf_files/odyssey_guide.pdf[/URL][/quote]
God, I wish I saw this earlier...
I've had the PC680 for a while...I even bought the metal bracket so that I could mount it in my trunk, but I had no clue how I was going to keep things from hitting the terminals...
I was just thinking that I could literally fit the battery AND the bracket inside that lunchbox and then zip it up for protection...
It's that or get a tupperware container and mount it inside that with the lid on the side...
-- Dave
| deebee8 | 04-27-2007 05:31 PM |
EASIEST WAY TO REMOVE SOUND DEADENING IS TO TAP IT LIGHTLY WITH A HAMMER, THen it just pulls away!!
Trust me, ive done my ENTIRE CAR, Stripped to the bone =)
Trust me, ive done my ENTIRE CAR, Stripped to the bone =)
| Uncle Scotty | 04-28-2007 12:10 AM |
[QUOTE=AcquaCow;17878875]God, I wish I saw this earlier...
I've had the PC680 for a while...I even bought the metal bracket so that I could mount it in my trunk, but I had no clue how I was going to keep things from hitting the terminals...
I was just thinking that I could literally fit the battery AND the bracket inside that lunchbox and then zip it up for protection...
It's that or get a tupperware container and mount it inside that with the lid on the side...
-- Dave[/QUOTE]
.....d00000d.....this is one of my FAV mods.....removing the battery and the front 'U' brace and fitting the 'H' brace and HD cowl stays REALLY makes the car 'point' MUCH better.
and I've posted the battery thing several times in several forums, here ;)
I've had the PC680 for a while...I even bought the metal bracket so that I could mount it in my trunk, but I had no clue how I was going to keep things from hitting the terminals...
I was just thinking that I could literally fit the battery AND the bracket inside that lunchbox and then zip it up for protection...
It's that or get a tupperware container and mount it inside that with the lid on the side...
-- Dave[/QUOTE]
.....d00000d.....this is one of my FAV mods.....removing the battery and the front 'U' brace and fitting the 'H' brace and HD cowl stays REALLY makes the car 'point' MUCH better.
and I've posted the battery thing several times in several forums, here ;)
| AcquaCow | 04-28-2007 01:49 AM |
[quote=Uncle Scotty;17885868].....d00000d.....this is one of my FAV mods.....removing the battery and the front 'U' brace and fitting the 'H' brace and HD cowl stays REALLY makes the car 'point' MUCH better.
and I've posted the battery thing several times in several forums, here ;)[/quote]
Well, as my car is a hack, I never had a U-Brace...I had to get the H-brace to hold the front together, and I needed the fender braces to keep the front square with 450lb springs =)
Hopefully I can relocate everything this weekend...but it'll probably be next. Until then, the PC680 is still under hood.
-- Dave
and I've posted the battery thing several times in several forums, here ;)[/quote]
Well, as my car is a hack, I never had a U-Brace...I had to get the H-brace to hold the front together, and I needed the fender braces to keep the front square with 450lb springs =)
Hopefully I can relocate everything this weekend...but it'll probably be next. Until then, the PC680 is still under hood.
-- Dave
| Wilson_ | 04-28-2007 03:03 AM |
[QUOTE=Templar;3104273]I have heard from several experienced racers that if you want to take the sound deadening tar out, the easiest way is to get some liquid nitrogen and pour it on the tar. Then the tar will just break right off.
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.[/QUOTE]
or dry ice works well to
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.[/QUOTE]
or dry ice works well to
| deebee8 | 04-28-2007 03:54 PM |
DRY ICE AND LIQUID NITROGEN SUCK!! THey are super messy, like i said, tap it lightly with a hammer, NO MESS WHAT-SO-EVER!!!
[QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Templar
I have heard from several experienced racers that if you want to take the sound deadening tar out, the easiest way is to get some liquid nitrogen and pour it on the tar. Then the tar will just break right off.
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.
or dry ice works well to
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Templar
I have heard from several experienced racers that if you want to take the sound deadening tar out, the easiest way is to get some liquid nitrogen and pour it on the tar. Then the tar will just break right off.
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.
or dry ice works well to
[/QUOTE]
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-28-2007 10:31 PM |
Most people I know ADD sound deadening to DECREASE rattles and road noise.... I do not see the point in spending HOURS just to loose like 10 lbs from a helpfull material.....unless you have a full out RACECAR.
roadnoise = no me gusta
there are SO many other ways out there to burn some fat off your IMPREZA...
roadnoise = no me gusta
there are SO many other ways out there to burn some fat off your IMPREZA...
| digitalboy40 | 04-29-2007 09:39 AM |
[QUOTE=IllNastyImpreza;17892136]Most people I know ADD sound deadening to DECREASE rattles and road noise.... I do not see the point in spending HOURS just to loose like 10 lbs from a helpfull material.....unless you have a full out RACECAR.
roadnoise = no me gusta
there are SO many other ways out there to burn some fat off your IMPREZA...[/QUOTE]
As with every mod, I think its subjective. Its like the difference in people who say they can stand the race ALK and those who say the comfort one is too much for them. Some people can/willing to take certain things. Plus its on the list of free mods, so if you wanna put the time in why not.
roadnoise = no me gusta
there are SO many other ways out there to burn some fat off your IMPREZA...[/QUOTE]
As with every mod, I think its subjective. Its like the difference in people who say they can stand the race ALK and those who say the comfort one is too much for them. Some people can/willing to take certain things. Plus its on the list of free mods, so if you wanna put the time in why not.
| living4surf | 04-29-2007 10:12 AM |
i have removed all of the tar and every thing else from behind the rear seats of my daliy driver and i will admit that it is loud and most people find it very annoying but it really doesnt bother me at all. just don't try talking on a phone in my car.
| Rizzo314 | 04-29-2007 06:56 PM |
I removed about 20 pounds of tar/sound deadening from my 02. That includes the tar in the trunk, passenger compartment, and some from the firewall.
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-29-2007 07:01 PM |
[QUOTE=living4surf;17894696]i have removed all of the tar and every thing else from behind the rear seats of my daliy driver and i will admit that it is loud and most people find it very annoying but it really doesnt bother me at all. just don't try talking on a phone in my car.[/QUOTE]
lol thanks.....I'll add that to my list of not to do mods :p
EWG + QTP cutout +3.5'' exhaust + 1500rms of audio = LOUD ......... But I can ALWAYS turn mine down :)
+1 for sound deadening
lol thanks.....I'll add that to my list of not to do mods :p
EWG + QTP cutout +3.5'' exhaust + 1500rms of audio = LOUD ......... But I can ALWAYS turn mine down :)
+1 for sound deadening
| living4surf | 04-29-2007 10:11 PM |
tar and sound deadening material comes out to almost 30 pounds in the 02's and i would assume the later years are about the same
| deebee8 | 04-30-2007 12:13 AM |
the firewall blanket was the heaviest part of my entire sound deadening, stuff was super thick. i guess its there for a reason, so i tossed it =)
| IllNastyImpreza | 04-30-2007 09:40 AM |
[QUOTE=deebee8;17901055]the firewall blanket was the heaviest part of my entire sound deadening, stuff was super thick. i guess its there for a reason, so i tossed it =)[/QUOTE]
that stock rubber piece?
that stock rubber piece?
| living4surf | 04-30-2007 10:47 AM |
it isnt really rubber it is more of a heavy foam.
| GHK | 05-10-2007 01:29 PM |
I went to get my car weigh today at a local gravel yard. I got 3040lb with full tank of gas:cool:
| AcquaCow | 05-10-2007 02:31 PM |
[quote=GHK;18028133]I went to get my car weigh today at a local gravel yard. I got 3040lb with full tank of gas:cool:[/quote]I'm 3150 with me, full tank, and full 04 sti drivetrain/dash swap =)
I don't have the firewall blanket, that was never put back in post-swap, but I haven't done any other weight reduction...yet.
14lb flywheel and LW pulleys are coming in the next few weeks as I get the car back on the road.
-- Dave
I don't have the firewall blanket, that was never put back in post-swap, but I haven't done any other weight reduction...yet.
14lb flywheel and LW pulleys are coming in the next few weeks as I get the car back on the road.
-- Dave
| deebee8 | 05-10-2007 04:06 PM |
gosh i could only imaging how light i am =)
im guessing in the 2700 range
im guessing in the 2700 range
| IllNastyImpreza | 05-10-2007 05:19 PM |
there really is a HUGE advantage to having a lighter car....
power to weight ratio is what it really comes down to...not just having HUGE power. I guess thats why Impreza's are the shiznit...nice and light...but not TOO small *cough miata*
BUT this all said...I still like a QUIET ride in my daily driver. I believe the couple hundred lbs of weight I could "easily" dispense of for "free" is not worth the uncorfortability associated with it.
but a trackcar on the other hand.... I bet you could get that sucker down around 2,000 lbs.
Anyone done it ?
power to weight ratio is what it really comes down to...not just having HUGE power. I guess thats why Impreza's are the shiznit...nice and light...but not TOO small *cough miata*
BUT this all said...I still like a QUIET ride in my daily driver. I believe the couple hundred lbs of weight I could "easily" dispense of for "free" is not worth the uncorfortability associated with it.
but a trackcar on the other hand.... I bet you could get that sucker down around 2,000 lbs.
Anyone done it ?
| wrxburton | 05-10-2007 05:33 PM |
I dont know if 2000lbs is possible but im aiming for 2500 with driver. Well see how it goes once i move next week
| AcquaCow | 05-10-2007 06:08 PM |
This thing is 2400lbs:
[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/DSC00674.jpg[/img]
2.7L block too =)
Full thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043903[/url]
-- Dave
[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/DSC00674.jpg[/img]
2.7L block too =)
Full thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043903[/url]
-- Dave
| BIGSKYWRX | 05-10-2007 07:40 PM |
2400 lbs w/ a cage is very light (not to mention the 2.7)! Good job :)
| GHK | 05-11-2007 10:09 AM |
I have deka 15lb battery, helix uppipe, strumong downpipe and no spare tire, jack, trunk carpet, floor mats. my car still feels on the heavy side even at 3040lbs. where can I save about 50 more pounds without sacrificing structural integrity?
| BIGSKYWRX | 05-11-2007 10:25 AM |
aftermarket muffler would net you 5-7 lbs (more w/ Ti), lightweight rims would net you 5ish lbs/corner (unsprung weight too :)), uprated brakes- aluminum calipers/two piece rotors can shave a little (again unsprung weight)
jdm bumper beam (which I believe does not effect any structural integrity) nets you 15 lbs (right off the very front end- good place to shed weight)
aluminum suspension bits- struts/lateral links/transverse links- all shave weight
there are lots of little bits (that will add up eventually) fog lamps/weights in the glove box, center console, dash, many, many more
the subframe w/ hardware is ~ 26 lbs, several have removed and replaced it w/ lighter weight bracing
Getting light (w/o a total gut out) isn't cheap, but can not only lighten but increase performance as well- ie brakes/suspension/wheels
jdm bumper beam (which I believe does not effect any structural integrity) nets you 15 lbs (right off the very front end- good place to shed weight)
aluminum suspension bits- struts/lateral links/transverse links- all shave weight
there are lots of little bits (that will add up eventually) fog lamps/weights in the glove box, center console, dash, many, many more
the subframe w/ hardware is ~ 26 lbs, several have removed and replaced it w/ lighter weight bracing
Getting light (w/o a total gut out) isn't cheap, but can not only lighten but increase performance as well- ie brakes/suspension/wheels
| GHK | 05-11-2007 11:16 AM |
some good ideas Bigsky,
about jdm front bumper beam; how much of work does it involved to install? is this something that DIY? since I have some subaru money saved up, I am thinking about getting sti aluminum lateral links soon.
about jdm front bumper beam; how much of work does it involved to install? is this something that DIY? since I have some subaru money saved up, I am thinking about getting sti aluminum lateral links soon.
| BIGSKYWRX | 05-11-2007 02:55 PM |
pretty easy install- remove headlamps/grill, then a bunch of push plastic clips that hold the bumper cover on, remove the bumper cover- underneath is a styroafoam piece- remove it (you want the correct styrofoam piece when you get the jdm beam as it's a little different) and then two (maybe four) bolts that go into the chassis- remove those and the beam is off, reverse :)
| IllNastyImpreza | 05-11-2007 02:58 PM |
[QUOTE=AcquaCow;18031872]This thing is 2400lbs:
[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/DSC00674.jpg[/img]
2.7L block too =)
Full thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043903[/url]
-- Dave[/QUOTE]
thats a sick car :cool:
[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/DSC00674.jpg[/img]
2.7L block too =)
Full thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043903[/url]
-- Dave[/QUOTE]
thats a sick car :cool:
| nickzweifel | 05-12-2007 03:05 PM |
listen to blair if you want to walk or have kids, just get a new front and rear bumber beams and new chassie (cant spell ) braces and racing seats, carbon fiber hood and trunk
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