| NeoGeo | 02-10-2003 08:24 PM |
[QUOTE]Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80.
Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80.
| ImprezedRS | 02-10-2003 10:17 PM |
well maybe Neo, there is a lot of things different
| dust12 | 02-11-2003 09:06 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoGeo [/i]
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Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80. [/B][/QUOTE]
Cruise control on WRX WILL go higher then 80...It was working at 85 just this morning. There was a thread awhile ago that said you cant set the cruise after a particular speed like 85 or something but you can set it at a lower speed such as 80 and use the accelleration on the cruise control to go as high as you want.
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Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80. [/B][/QUOTE]
Cruise control on WRX WILL go higher then 80...It was working at 85 just this morning. There was a thread awhile ago that said you cant set the cruise after a particular speed like 85 or something but you can set it at a lower speed such as 80 and use the accelleration on the cruise control to go as high as you want.
| bemani | 02-11-2003 12:33 PM |
There are more things for cruise control that you can take out - 2 electronic modules next to the driver side door that you can remove, and if you want to be real thorough, all the harness for it too. Plus there's a clutch and brake switch somewhere down there.
I replaced the cc button with the plain cover cap - that's like 1oz weight saving :lol: Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz :lol:
I replaced the cc button with the plain cover cap - that's like 1oz weight saving :lol: Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz :lol:
| NeoGeo | 02-11-2003 12:53 PM |
Okay I'll try to give that cruise control thing another shot...anyway right now it's replaced by the zerosport push-start button, plus TXS map selector :D
| yebokmj | 02-11-2003 01:05 PM |
Driving my car
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| dust12 | 02-11-2003 01:13 PM |
Re: Driving my car
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by yebokmj [/i]
[B]When I drive my car I drive it completely naked so as not to add any excess weight. I only carry my licence so not to have the added weight of the wallet or bills. My key isn't on a key chain or with anything else so I don't have to worry about that weight. I also will make sure I am completely clean shaven top to bottom and my toe nails are as short as possible. I visit the restrooms as well before a drive to also help rid my body of excess weight.
Joshua [/B][/QUOTE]
I would take this 1 step farther - Don't drive your car at all. Llet super models in bikinis drive it because they weigh less.:lol:
[B]When I drive my car I drive it completely naked so as not to add any excess weight. I only carry my licence so not to have the added weight of the wallet or bills. My key isn't on a key chain or with anything else so I don't have to worry about that weight. I also will make sure I am completely clean shaven top to bottom and my toe nails are as short as possible. I visit the restrooms as well before a drive to also help rid my body of excess weight.
Joshua [/B][/QUOTE]
I would take this 1 step farther - Don't drive your car at all. Llet super models in bikinis drive it because they weigh less.:lol:
| aspera | 02-11-2003 11:22 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
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you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door! [/B][/QUOTE]
I wish I would have done that instead of buying rear speakers. Rear speakers are pretty useless. Oh well, I guess I can do that next time if I get an STi.:)
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you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door! [/B][/QUOTE]
I wish I would have done that instead of buying rear speakers. Rear speakers are pretty useless. Oh well, I guess I can do that next time if I get an STi.:)
| aspera | 02-11-2003 11:25 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ImprezedRS [/i]
[B]
Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back. [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh no! Not the cruise control debate again! Let me just skip to the punchline and state that the cruise control works until 88 mph, at which point you will be sent back in time to 1955.
[url]http://wavcentral.com/cgi-bin/log/log.cgi?id=5856&sound=/sounds/movies/backftr/88mph.mp3[/url]
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Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back. [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh no! Not the cruise control debate again! Let me just skip to the punchline and state that the cruise control works until 88 mph, at which point you will be sent back in time to 1955.
[url]http://wavcentral.com/cgi-bin/log/log.cgi?id=5856&sound=/sounds/movies/backftr/88mph.mp3[/url]
| aspera | 02-11-2003 11:28 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bemani [/i]
[B] Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
That takes the cake.:) Those are about the smallest, lightest parts on the whole car.
[B] Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
That takes the cake.:) Those are about the smallest, lightest parts on the whole car.
| ellisnc | 02-12-2003 06:27 AM |
yeah the problem is even if you're planning on keeping you car and you strip it down and start taking circuits out of the wire harness is that puts you right into prepared class at auto-x... Believe me, if you've taken out the wires for the A/C compressor and Cruise or even cut them off you will be protested sooner or later... that's pretty easy to spot.
| bcblues | 02-12-2003 07:59 AM |
Here are some other weight saving mods that many don�t think of:
1) remove all change from the center consol cup holder.
2) remove floor mats.
3) vacuum 5 pound of sand from floor.
4) remove parking and speeding tickets from glove box.
5) remove �heavy metal� cd�s from changer. Replace with �Air Supply�.
6) run 36 psi in each tire instead of 42 (save 6 pounds a corner!)
7) remove Scooby bobbly-head dog from rear shelf.
8) remove change from pockets (but I like the �drive nude� idea too).
9) remove air freshener from rearview mirror.
10) drive barefoot.
11) turn down your boost. No need to cart around those �extra pounds�.
12) retorque all bolt to half their recommended �foot-pounds�.
13) remove 2 lug nuts from each wheel.
14) while you are down there, remove the valve cap.
15) remove license plates.
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1) remove all change from the center consol cup holder.
2) remove floor mats.
3) vacuum 5 pound of sand from floor.
4) remove parking and speeding tickets from glove box.
5) remove �heavy metal� cd�s from changer. Replace with �Air Supply�.
6) run 36 psi in each tire instead of 42 (save 6 pounds a corner!)
7) remove Scooby bobbly-head dog from rear shelf.
8) remove change from pockets (but I like the �drive nude� idea too).
9) remove air freshener from rearview mirror.
10) drive barefoot.
11) turn down your boost. No need to cart around those �extra pounds�.
12) retorque all bolt to half their recommended �foot-pounds�.
13) remove 2 lug nuts from each wheel.
14) while you are down there, remove the valve cap.
15) remove license plates.
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| aspera | 02-14-2003 06:20 PM |
Get the Led out!:)
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[url]http://www.airsupplymusic.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.airsupplymusic.com/[/url]
| aspera | 02-18-2003 02:53 AM |
Hey Ellis!:)
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Guess what. I went about removing all of the extra (silver U shaped) door handle brackets tonight. While I was doing that I peeked inside the rear doors. I ended up finding big, heavy, black brackets for the rear (exterior) door handles. They are inside the rear part of the rear doors. You have to remove the screws from the lock assembly to get to one of the bolts, but it is really easy. I think they are there for theft protection because the lock is so close to the handle. The front doors don't use them, so I don't think they are there for structural reasons. The doors are still solid.
1. Remove door card.
2. Peel back plastic from top-rear of door.
3. Remove 3 silver screws from lock. These have red threadlock on them.
4. Remove bolt/screw on 'tail' of lock.
5. With nutdriver, remove 10mm bolts from door handle. There's one front and one rear bolt. DO NOT DROP.:)
6. Use magnet to remove drop bolts from inner door.
7. With 10mm wrench, remove last remaining nut for the big, black, useless doorhandle bracket.
8. Put crap all back together and go eat pizza.
EDIT: If you need to move the window up, the door switch has to be plugged in.
Disclaimer: This mod will make your car break/pollute/crash/explode/get stolen. It will be my fault because I told you how to unscrew something. Lefty loosey.
1. Remove door card.
2. Peel back plastic from top-rear of door.
3. Remove 3 silver screws from lock. These have red threadlock on them.
4. Remove bolt/screw on 'tail' of lock.
5. With nutdriver, remove 10mm bolts from door handle. There's one front and one rear bolt. DO NOT DROP.:)
6. Use magnet to remove drop bolts from inner door.
7. With 10mm wrench, remove last remaining nut for the big, black, useless doorhandle bracket.
8. Put crap all back together and go eat pizza.
EDIT: If you need to move the window up, the door switch has to be plugged in.
Disclaimer: This mod will make your car break/pollute/crash/explode/get stolen. It will be my fault because I told you how to unscrew something. Lefty loosey.
| ellisnc | 02-18-2003 06:17 AM |
Aspera,
I'm assuming those other things you took out weigh more than the brackets?? The brackets don't weigh too much.
As soon as the snow melts and we get a little warmer here I'll look into the rear doors! thanks
Did you ever get that anti-theft metal in the steering column? You'll probably need an impact driver to remove the screws though.
I'm assuming those other things you took out weigh more than the brackets?? The brackets don't weigh too much.
As soon as the snow melts and we get a little warmer here I'll look into the rear doors! thanks
Did you ever get that anti-theft metal in the steering column? You'll probably need an impact driver to remove the screws though.
| aspera | 02-18-2003 06:59 AM |
Yeah, I got it. That last screw was a booger. I bent the bracket and twisted it around for a couple of minutes...why cussing.:)
| aspera | 02-18-2003 07:05 AM |
better anti-theft idea
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It looks like rear door handles can be used for the front doors. If you only did the passengers side, you could get rid of an extra lock. Have you ever used that lock?!!?
From looking at Subiegal's Burnsie buildup, it looks like the door handles come pre-painted. With all of the exterior locks removed you might confuse a theif or two...and look smooth doing it. The locks are useless anyway. Frameless doors and glass windows will stop no theives.
If the price is right, I plan on putting my door locks in the same pile as my trunk lock.:)
From looking at Subiegal's Burnsie buildup, it looks like the door handles come pre-painted. With all of the exterior locks removed you might confuse a theif or two...and look smooth doing it. The locks are useless anyway. Frameless doors and glass windows will stop no theives.
If the price is right, I plan on putting my door locks in the same pile as my trunk lock.:)
| ImprezedRS | 02-18-2003 10:04 AM |
Why don't you just shave the door handles? I will be doing that as soon as I finish shaving the side molding, already did the antenna and trunk key hole.
| bemani | 02-18-2003 01:29 PM |
I got rid of the handle bars on the ceiling and the center sun visor! I hate those damn things, espeically the handle bars because people actually use them and then press their arms on my window leaving a big fat oily stain. Now they don't have anything to hang on to their dear life!
| ellisnc | 02-18-2003 06:02 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bemani [/i]
[B]I got rid of the handle bars on the ceiling and the center sun visor! I hate those damn things, espeically the handle bars because people actually use them and then press their arms on my window leaving a big fat oily stain. Now they don't have anything to hang on to their dear life! [/B][/QUOTE]
I try to stay semi legal in SM ;)
Removing visible parts of the interior is not the way to do it :alien:
[B]I got rid of the handle bars on the ceiling and the center sun visor! I hate those damn things, espeically the handle bars because people actually use them and then press their arms on my window leaving a big fat oily stain. Now they don't have anything to hang on to their dear life! [/B][/QUOTE]
I try to stay semi legal in SM ;)
Removing visible parts of the interior is not the way to do it :alien:
| RokketRide | 02-19-2003 05:33 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STiSuBiEwRx [/i]
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There thats what i was missing. Where can you get lightweight front and rear beams? How much does the a/c weigh exactly? [/B][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.isrperformance.com/main.html[/url]
click on body/dressup
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There thats what i was missing. Where can you get lightweight front and rear beams? How much does the a/c weigh exactly? [/B][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.isrperformance.com/main.html[/url]
click on body/dressup
| ellisnc | 02-22-2003 12:38 PM |
hey aspera...
just took out the assitant airbag today, pretty easy and it's huge and weighs quite a bit, plus it's pretty high up in the body so it should move the CG down a little as well.
here's how to do it if anyone is interested:
-take the glovebox part down and unclip the airbag coupler
-there are 3 10mm bolts the hold the airbag module to the IP beam. Take those out then push up on the whole module
-the plastic part that attaches to the dashboard should pop out with a little bit of persuasion.
-unclip the plastic clip that keeps the harness attached to the IP beam.
-pull the whole assembly out from the top
-now remove the plastic cover from the module by prying each of the holes over the hooks. You'll have to bend the plastic a little but it'll fit with a little bit of persuasion, you don't have to cut anything.
-once the plastic is off go put it back in the dash so you're not left with a huge hole. Then put a 3 ohm resistor in the coupler and you're all good to put everything back together.
just took out the assitant airbag today, pretty easy and it's huge and weighs quite a bit, plus it's pretty high up in the body so it should move the CG down a little as well.
here's how to do it if anyone is interested:
-take the glovebox part down and unclip the airbag coupler
-there are 3 10mm bolts the hold the airbag module to the IP beam. Take those out then push up on the whole module
-the plastic part that attaches to the dashboard should pop out with a little bit of persuasion.
-unclip the plastic clip that keeps the harness attached to the IP beam.
-pull the whole assembly out from the top
-now remove the plastic cover from the module by prying each of the holes over the hooks. You'll have to bend the plastic a little but it'll fit with a little bit of persuasion, you don't have to cut anything.
-once the plastic is off go put it back in the dash so you're not left with a huge hole. Then put a 3 ohm resistor in the coupler and you're all good to put everything back together.
| aspera | 02-23-2003 11:43 PM |
the kill the passenger mod :)
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Hey Ellis, you should submit that to Peaty at Scoobymods. Maybe they can make a "Racer's Mods" section with stuff like that in it. I think it would be nice to have a "one-stop-shopping" list for guys prepping a race car.
| ImprezedRS | 02-23-2003 11:49 PM |
for the light weight beams go to [url]www.subaruparts.com[/url] they have them for the cheapest.
| ellisnc | 02-24-2003 06:46 AM |
Re: the kill the passenger mod :)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]Hey Ellis, you should submit that to Peaty at Scoobymods. Maybe they can make a "Racer's Mods" section with stuff like that in it. I think it would be nice to have a "one-stop-shopping" list for guys prepping a race car. [/B][/QUOTE]
if they can't figure this out they shouldn't be prepping a race car ;)
[B]Hey Ellis, you should submit that to Peaty at Scoobymods. Maybe they can make a "Racer's Mods" section with stuff like that in it. I think it would be nice to have a "one-stop-shopping" list for guys prepping a race car. [/B][/QUOTE]
if they can't figure this out they shouldn't be prepping a race car ;)
| bemani | 02-24-2003 05:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
I try to stay semi legal in SM ;)
Removing visible parts of the interior is not the way to do it :alien: [/B][/QUOTE]
You're saying that removing the handles is not legal in SM, yet removing the air bag is?
I'm don't really care anyway, I'm not going to mod my car around some autox event that I go to maybe 5 times a year, max. I'll just drive in the next group.
[B]
I try to stay semi legal in SM ;)
Removing visible parts of the interior is not the way to do it :alien: [/B][/QUOTE]
You're saying that removing the handles is not legal in SM, yet removing the air bag is?
I'm don't really care anyway, I'm not going to mod my car around some autox event that I go to maybe 5 times a year, max. I'll just drive in the next group.
| ellisnc | 02-24-2003 07:18 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bemani [/i]
[B]
You're saying that removing the handles is not legal in SM, yet removing the air bag is?
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Yes that's correct...
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You're saying that removing the handles is not legal in SM, yet removing the air bag is?
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Yes that's correct...
| Peaty | 02-24-2003 08:03 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]hey aspera...
just took out the assitant airbag today, pretty easy and it's huge and weighs quite a bit, plus it's pretty high up in the body so it should move the CG down a little as well.
here's how to do it if anyone is interested:
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Can you contribute that to our site or can I cut and paste it there? Good info that.
Peaty
[B]hey aspera...
just took out the assitant airbag today, pretty easy and it's huge and weighs quite a bit, plus it's pretty high up in the body so it should move the CG down a little as well.
here's how to do it if anyone is interested:
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Can you contribute that to our site or can I cut and paste it there? Good info that.
Peaty
| ellisnc | 02-24-2003 08:45 PM |
what site is that?
sure I don't care :)
sure I don't care :)
| Peaty | 02-24-2003 09:22 PM |
[url]www.scoobymods.com[/url]
If you go there you can contribute mods.
Peaty
If you go there you can contribute mods.
Peaty
| aspera | 02-27-2003 10:21 PM |
Scoobymods always makes me think of cartoon great danes riding around the UK on mopeds, with attitude.:)
| Peaty | 02-27-2003 10:33 PM |
Hee Hee I get it :)
| aspera | 02-27-2003 11:36 PM |
big baller weight reduction
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[url]http://www.tatomotorsports.com/carbon.asp[/url]
Fancy some carbon fiber door cards?
Fancy some carbon fiber door cards?
| peanut | 02-28-2003 12:31 AM |
on 2002 wrx. there are a couple pounds to be had by removing the front belt cover in the engine compartment (brackets and cover).. but that leaves the throttle cable just chillin there to get rubbed to hell and there is really no way to move it away.. i had an idea to use a legacy throttle cable.. it should fit fine.. im gonna go to the junkyard saturday and see whats up to make it work.. my question is.. is the throttle cable easy to replace.. and does anyone know where you get to it from inside the vehicle.
has anyone even thought of this???
has anyone even thought of this???
| ScreaminFast | 02-28-2003 03:02 AM |
just a thought on the shaved door handles idea......you can't race on any real racetrack with shaved handles.....
| ellisnc | 02-28-2003 06:20 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by peanut [/i]
[B]on 2002 wrx. there are a couple pounds to be had by removing the front belt cover in the engine compartment (brackets and cover).. but that leaves the throttle cable just chillin there to get rubbed to hell and there is really no way to move it away.. i had an idea to use a legacy throttle cable.. it should fit fine.. im gonna go to the junkyard saturday and see whats up to make it work.. my question is.. is the throttle cable easy to replace.. and does anyone know where you get to it from inside the vehicle.
has anyone even thought of this??? [/B][/QUOTE]
I have the accessory belt shroud removed and I don't have any trouble with the throttle cable rubbing on it
[B]on 2002 wrx. there are a couple pounds to be had by removing the front belt cover in the engine compartment (brackets and cover).. but that leaves the throttle cable just chillin there to get rubbed to hell and there is really no way to move it away.. i had an idea to use a legacy throttle cable.. it should fit fine.. im gonna go to the junkyard saturday and see whats up to make it work.. my question is.. is the throttle cable easy to replace.. and does anyone know where you get to it from inside the vehicle.
has anyone even thought of this??? [/B][/QUOTE]
I have the accessory belt shroud removed and I don't have any trouble with the throttle cable rubbing on it
| ellisnc | 02-28-2003 06:26 AM |
Re: big baller weight reduction
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B][url]http://www.tatomotorsports.com/carbon.asp[/url]
Fancy some carbon fiber door cards? [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah I've seen these before....
the problem is unless you're running in Prepared classes at auto-x you can't use these. And then why not just remove stuff all together?
anyway, they are badass! :)
[B][url]http://www.tatomotorsports.com/carbon.asp[/url]
Fancy some carbon fiber door cards? [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah I've seen these before....
the problem is unless you're running in Prepared classes at auto-x you can't use these. And then why not just remove stuff all together?
anyway, they are badass! :)
| peanut | 02-28-2003 11:37 AM |
ellisnc
please explain more on what you did.. cuase the throttle cable does infact hang out.. i was planning on getting something around it then from that piece zip tie it to something to keep it out of the way.. but it just looks out of place and im anal retentive about my car haha.. i am interested in what you did please explain further..
thanks
please explain more on what you did.. cuase the throttle cable does infact hang out.. i was planning on getting something around it then from that piece zip tie it to something to keep it out of the way.. but it just looks out of place and im anal retentive about my car haha.. i am interested in what you did please explain further..
thanks
| ellisnc | 02-28-2003 08:14 PM |
the cable is pretty stiff
it's a good 1.5 inches from the belt and I haven't seen any rubbing upon inspection
if the only reason you want to remove that cover is for weight just forget it, it doesn't weigh that much.
I have no way to attach it to anything anymore so that's why it's gone now.
it's a good 1.5 inches from the belt and I haven't seen any rubbing upon inspection
if the only reason you want to remove that cover is for weight just forget it, it doesn't weigh that much.
I have no way to attach it to anything anymore so that's why it's gone now.
| peanut | 02-28-2003 10:53 PM |
i dont want to remove just the cover.. but all the brakets to.. there is a couple pounds right there.. and well every little bit adds up right :)
| aspera | 03-01-2003 08:37 PM |
Be careful. I got rid of the bracket that's by the oil fill tube, and now have a chewed up throttle cable. I think that it happened in a drive-thru car wash when I turned on the defrost. I need to replace it sometime, but it still works fine.
I guess this is still on topic if I mention that I got rid of some extra weight by unknowingly removing the cable shielding. :)~
I guess this is still on topic if I mention that I got rid of some extra weight by unknowingly removing the cable shielding. :)~
| ellisnc | 03-16-2003 04:32 PM |
hey, I thought I'd bring this back to life since I have some results to report...
The car as of yesterday is down to just under 2830 pounds with a quarter tank of gas, no rear seat and no driver. I corner balanced it and checked the weight while it was on the scales. The rear seat is just under 30 lbs.
It's very fun to drive :D
I can list the weight reductions and mods if you want.
aspera,
I still didn't take the stuff out of the rear doors like you told me to. Or the injector covers, or trunk torsion bars, or the things in the rear subframe. Gotta save some for a rainy day :
The car as of yesterday is down to just under 2830 pounds with a quarter tank of gas, no rear seat and no driver. I corner balanced it and checked the weight while it was on the scales. The rear seat is just under 30 lbs.
It's very fun to drive :D
I can list the weight reductions and mods if you want.
aspera,
I still didn't take the stuff out of the rear doors like you told me to. Or the injector covers, or trunk torsion bars, or the things in the rear subframe. Gotta save some for a rainy day :
| ZERO26D | 03-16-2003 05:06 PM |
Yeah list what you have done to your car I am trying to do the same thing.
| subarud | 03-16-2003 05:56 PM |
ellis~
Could not only post the list of your weight reduction mods but maybe some photos too? I am anxious to see what your car looks like. Don't you have some RC2's with 235 rubber? I would appreciate some interior/exterior shots and hopefully some engine bay shots (I would love to see under the hood without all the A/C crap and battery and windshield washer tank gone- Must have a pretty open space!)
Thanks
Evan
Could not only post the list of your weight reduction mods but maybe some photos too? I am anxious to see what your car looks like. Don't you have some RC2's with 235 rubber? I would appreciate some interior/exterior shots and hopefully some engine bay shots (I would love to see under the hood without all the A/C crap and battery and windshield washer tank gone- Must have a pretty open space!)
Thanks
Evan
| ellisnc | 03-16-2003 07:05 PM |
I'll post pictures soon enough...
Need to get the car washed up first though... it's been sitting in the garage all weekend. It looks very badass though with the A032R's ;)
whiterabbit (David) and I have a plan to post new pics in the same thread since our cars are kind of cousins. :)
here's the list... maybe it's almost the same as others I may have posted.
Godspeed down and up-pipe
JDM JIC 505 Ti
Blitz DBSC Spec R
Recaro Pole Position seats w/ wedge brackets and recaro sliders
Fluidyne radiator - maybe weight gain
JDM HID projector headlights - yes the black chrome ones - weight gain - I swap in the stockers for track use
JDM front bumper beam
17x8 RC2 with 235/40 A032R
JIC FLT-A2 (first one in the country :rolleyes: )
Cusco stabi bars - weight gain
Cusco strut bars - weight gain
Cusco Type 2 under brace - weight gain
Aluminum front control arms - weight gain
Greddy shift knob - weight gain
S202/Spec C steering wheel - no cable reel - special homemade horn adapter :)
STi foglight covers
remove passenger airbag
remove radio, all speakers - use Honda block off plate
remove all A/C equipment, including evaporator and condenser
remove metal plates under steering column and assistant glovebox
remove washer bottle
remove intake snorkel
remove cruise
remove door handle supports
gut the trunk
remove seat rear seatback supports
remove rear seatbelts
remove rear seatbelt braces under the rear seat
remove hood padding
add small battery
remove bracketry under the IP - anything you can get your hands on
remove boost control solenoid cover bracket and cover
remove all heat shielding except from the manifolds
remove all unneeded switches and replace with blanks
remove rear muffler heat shield
I think that's everything, or close to it - if you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer.
This week I've got STi rear lateral and trailing links coming :)
If I keep the car instead of getting an STi there will be significant changes...
Things I'd like to do if I keep it are:
Brembo F40 kit
ARC intercooler
ARC intake box
STi hood scoop and Zero Sports splitter
at least STi mission and drivetrain, possibly 2 liter engine.
Revlab steering rack
Autopower rollbar
Cusco vented hood
painted Monster sport trunk lid
Acid dip the car and seamweld it - haha, maybe someday :)
The diffs are the only thing that really stink on the car now and I won't address them until the 5-speed is gone some way or another.
Or I could get an STi ;)
Need to get the car washed up first though... it's been sitting in the garage all weekend. It looks very badass though with the A032R's ;)
whiterabbit (David) and I have a plan to post new pics in the same thread since our cars are kind of cousins. :)
here's the list... maybe it's almost the same as others I may have posted.
Godspeed down and up-pipe
JDM JIC 505 Ti
Blitz DBSC Spec R
Recaro Pole Position seats w/ wedge brackets and recaro sliders
Fluidyne radiator - maybe weight gain
JDM HID projector headlights - yes the black chrome ones - weight gain - I swap in the stockers for track use
JDM front bumper beam
17x8 RC2 with 235/40 A032R
JIC FLT-A2 (first one in the country :rolleyes: )
Cusco stabi bars - weight gain
Cusco strut bars - weight gain
Cusco Type 2 under brace - weight gain
Aluminum front control arms - weight gain
Greddy shift knob - weight gain
S202/Spec C steering wheel - no cable reel - special homemade horn adapter :)
STi foglight covers
remove passenger airbag
remove radio, all speakers - use Honda block off plate
remove all A/C equipment, including evaporator and condenser
remove metal plates under steering column and assistant glovebox
remove washer bottle
remove intake snorkel
remove cruise
remove door handle supports
gut the trunk
remove seat rear seatback supports
remove rear seatbelts
remove rear seatbelt braces under the rear seat
remove hood padding
add small battery
remove bracketry under the IP - anything you can get your hands on
remove boost control solenoid cover bracket and cover
remove all heat shielding except from the manifolds
remove all unneeded switches and replace with blanks
remove rear muffler heat shield
I think that's everything, or close to it - if you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer.
This week I've got STi rear lateral and trailing links coming :)
If I keep the car instead of getting an STi there will be significant changes...
Things I'd like to do if I keep it are:
Brembo F40 kit
ARC intercooler
ARC intake box
STi hood scoop and Zero Sports splitter
at least STi mission and drivetrain, possibly 2 liter engine.
Revlab steering rack
Autopower rollbar
Cusco vented hood
painted Monster sport trunk lid
Acid dip the car and seamweld it - haha, maybe someday :)
The diffs are the only thing that really stink on the car now and I won't address them until the 5-speed is gone some way or another.
Or I could get an STi ;)
| bemani | 03-17-2003 11:30 AM |
How come you don't take out the DRL diode & control unit?
What is removed when you say remove door handle support?
What is removed when you say remove door handle support?
| ellisnc | 03-17-2003 05:08 PM |
I did, just didn't post it
if you take the door panels off, there are metal brackets where the interior grab handles are... no need!
if you take the door panels off, there are metal brackets where the interior grab handles are... no need!
| bemani | 03-17-2003 06:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
if you take the door panels off, there are metal brackets where the interior grab handles are... no need! [/B][/QUOTE]
How much weight is removed? I'm just weighting the benefit of this since taking the door panel off seem like a lot of work.
[B]
if you take the door panels off, there are metal brackets where the interior grab handles are... no need! [/B][/QUOTE]
How much weight is removed? I'm just weighting the benefit of this since taking the door panel off seem like a lot of work.
| aspera | 03-17-2003 06:44 PM |
I don't remember if I already typed this, but I removed all four grab handles above the doors. Anytime you remove four of anything you are saving some weight.:)
| bemani | 03-17-2003 06:54 PM |
There's also the center sun visor + ash tray(+ rail).
If I switch the sun visors for ones without vanity mirror, how much lighter would they be? :D (okay, now we're getting ridiculous :p )
If I switch the sun visors for ones without vanity mirror, how much lighter would they be? :D (okay, now we're getting ridiculous :p )
| aspera | 03-17-2003 06:57 PM |
Good point about the ash tray and it's rail. There's also a little light bulb in there.
EDIT: this is ridiculous [url]http://www.imp.mc/rocwebsite/newpictures/CrashKings.jpg[/url]
EDIT: this is ridiculous [url]http://www.imp.mc/rocwebsite/newpictures/CrashKings.jpg[/url]
| ellisnc | 03-17-2003 07:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]
EDIT: this is ridiculous [url]http://www.imp.mc/rocwebsite/newpictures/CrashKings.jpg[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
what the hell does that have to do with anything?
I've had enough weight reduction for now :)
Someday when I get bored and ambitious I'll start taking other crap off like you guys are suggesting. I think I could get the car down to somewhere in the neighborhood of 2750 just by taking more stuff off the car and 2700 might be attainable with headers and a few other tricks like the carbon trunk and swapping out the rear glass when the STi gets here. Of course the car would be more unstreetable than it is now, not that that means much anyway at this point :D
Maybe one day I'll take everything in the interior out and weigh the car just for fun, but I doubt it will be soon. Acid dipping would get rid of all the tar and undercoating on the car now which is probably worth around 30 pounds I'm guessing.
[B]
EDIT: this is ridiculous [url]http://www.imp.mc/rocwebsite/newpictures/CrashKings.jpg[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
what the hell does that have to do with anything?
I've had enough weight reduction for now :)
Someday when I get bored and ambitious I'll start taking other crap off like you guys are suggesting. I think I could get the car down to somewhere in the neighborhood of 2750 just by taking more stuff off the car and 2700 might be attainable with headers and a few other tricks like the carbon trunk and swapping out the rear glass when the STi gets here. Of course the car would be more unstreetable than it is now, not that that means much anyway at this point :D
Maybe one day I'll take everything in the interior out and weigh the car just for fun, but I doubt it will be soon. Acid dipping would get rid of all the tar and undercoating on the car now which is probably worth around 30 pounds I'm guessing.
| ellisnc | 03-17-2003 07:16 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bemani [/i]
[B]
How much weight is removed? I'm just weighting the benefit of this since taking the door panel off seem like a lot of work. [/B][/QUOTE]
you can take the speakers out while you're in there ;)
[B]
How much weight is removed? I'm just weighting the benefit of this since taking the door panel off seem like a lot of work. [/B][/QUOTE]
you can take the speakers out while you're in there ;)
| aspera | 03-19-2003 09:25 PM |
If you go really hardcore (and had a rollcage with side bars) you could saw out the inner door and remove the beams and window junk. The doors have lots of heavy stuff in them, but most of it is important for a road car. The tweeters and their brackets can be removed if you replace the front speakers with ones that have built-in tweeters. There's also a guy on the board somewhere that sells boxes to mount speakers in the footwell.
| aspera | 03-19-2003 09:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
:lol:
what the hell does that have to do with anything?
[/B][/QUOTE]
I was just showing what something that was really ridiculous looks like.
"okay, now we're getting ridiculous"
[B]
:lol:
what the hell does that have to do with anything?
[/B][/QUOTE]
I was just showing what something that was really ridiculous looks like.
"okay, now we're getting ridiculous"
| QAboy | 03-23-2003 10:13 PM |
don't flame me if i'm wrong, but i bel;ieve that there's a ~150lb u-shaped impact peice under the front of the car. it's for the 45 mph offset crash. mine will probably come out soon. my feeling is that if pre 02 subies didn't have it . . . well i thinkn you see where i'm going with it.
--eric
--eric
| ellisnc | 03-24-2003 06:24 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by QAboy [/i]
[B]don't flame me if i'm wrong, but i bel;ieve that there's a ~150lb u-shaped impact peice under the front of the car. it's for the 45 mph offset crash. mine will probably come out soon. my feeling is that if pre 02 subies didn't have it . . . well i thinkn you see where i'm going with it.
--eric [/B][/QUOTE]
I've had it off before when I replaced the front control arms... it weighs maybe 30 pounds. Trust me it's not that heavy.
Also I believe from what I've seen that the radiator supports attach to this part. There must be a couple threads floating around here since I think someone posted the underside of the S202 in another weight reduction thread. In that thread I discuss what is probably needed to remove the front subframe. I think you'd need another part to bolt on under the very front to support the radiator.
btw, I posted pics in the member's gallery for those who want to see what the engine and interior look like now.
[B]don't flame me if i'm wrong, but i bel;ieve that there's a ~150lb u-shaped impact peice under the front of the car. it's for the 45 mph offset crash. mine will probably come out soon. my feeling is that if pre 02 subies didn't have it . . . well i thinkn you see where i'm going with it.
--eric [/B][/QUOTE]
I've had it off before when I replaced the front control arms... it weighs maybe 30 pounds. Trust me it's not that heavy.
Also I believe from what I've seen that the radiator supports attach to this part. There must be a couple threads floating around here since I think someone posted the underside of the S202 in another weight reduction thread. In that thread I discuss what is probably needed to remove the front subframe. I think you'd need another part to bolt on under the very front to support the radiator.
btw, I posted pics in the member's gallery for those who want to see what the engine and interior look like now.
| aspera | 04-01-2003 05:05 AM |
I finally got around to removing all of the rear seat stuff. I figured hey, when was the last time anybody rode back there?
Anyway, I pulled a ton of junk out of there including the big gray bar. That sucker is heav-vy.
Here's the deal. Does anybody have proof that it stiffens the chassis? It appears to just be a side impact beam to protect passengers and (maybe) the fuel tank. I have a hard time buying the idea that it is only a brace because it mounts to a place where there is plenty of steel. I looked under the car and it didn't really line up with obvious hard points.
Anyway, I pulled a ton of junk out of there including the big gray bar. That sucker is heav-vy.
Here's the deal. Does anybody have proof that it stiffens the chassis? It appears to just be a side impact beam to protect passengers and (maybe) the fuel tank. I have a hard time buying the idea that it is only a brace because it mounts to a place where there is plenty of steel. I looked under the car and it didn't really line up with obvious hard points.
| ellisnc | 04-01-2003 05:51 AM |
actually when I took mine out it felt a little bit more flexible back there so I put it back in. It would be nice to lose the weight but like someone pointed out in my other thread you have to start taking stuff off the front end of the car sometime as well. Fortunately I've been able to maintain about the same weight distribution as stock 60/40
did you take all the seatbelts out too??? The shoulder belts weigh a TON. :D
did you take all the seatbelts out too??? The shoulder belts weigh a TON. :D
| aspera | 04-04-2003 05:03 AM |
All of the seatbelt hardware is in my living room (getting pretty messy).:)
I am to the point now where I can admit that I have full blown "grams disease"...hehehe. After reading Grassroots Motorsports' new article on weight reduction, I attacked the '91 Jeep Cherokee that I got handed-down from my Dad. I removed all of the carpet (which revealed a rusty hole in the floorboard for Fred Flintstone braking), seats, headliner, trailer hitch, spare tire, etc. It became quickly obvious how much better my Subaru is made when yanking all of this stuff.
Odds and Ends:
*The Jeep is partially metric, I think.
*It uses a dozen assorted screws where a Subaru would use a couple of bolts (all the same kind) and some plastic rivits.
*It uses Torx bolts for the seatblets. I assume this is done so they can never be removed, EVER.
*If had a time machine, I'd go back in time Terminator-style and slap the dude who decided to plug up all of the drain holes with metal plugs. They are metal (pro-rust), and stop the water from draining. Was this Jeep designed before rubber plugs were invented or am I taking crazy pills?
I am to the point now where I can admit that I have full blown "grams disease"...hehehe. After reading Grassroots Motorsports' new article on weight reduction, I attacked the '91 Jeep Cherokee that I got handed-down from my Dad. I removed all of the carpet (which revealed a rusty hole in the floorboard for Fred Flintstone braking), seats, headliner, trailer hitch, spare tire, etc. It became quickly obvious how much better my Subaru is made when yanking all of this stuff.
Odds and Ends:
*The Jeep is partially metric, I think.
*It uses a dozen assorted screws where a Subaru would use a couple of bolts (all the same kind) and some plastic rivits.
*It uses Torx bolts for the seatblets. I assume this is done so they can never be removed, EVER.
*If had a time machine, I'd go back in time Terminator-style and slap the dude who decided to plug up all of the drain holes with metal plugs. They are metal (pro-rust), and stop the water from draining. Was this Jeep designed before rubber plugs were invented or am I taking crazy pills?
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