| Donkeyno9 | 04-23-2011 05:41 AM |
[URL]http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gd-members-journals/134953-slowly-building-faster-car.html[/URL]
I assembled a pretty large list of parts weights for the GD STi. If anyone has additions plz let me know via PM and I can edit more parts in.
I assembled a pretty large list of parts weights for the GD STi. If anyone has additions plz let me know via PM and I can edit more parts in.
| A-man07 | 04-23-2011 06:46 AM |
That looks a lot like Anorexic's list of weights.
| Donkeyno9 | 04-23-2011 06:48 AM |
I used his list as a base and added to it. I also reweighed parts on a postage scale for greater accuracy. I recognize you from IWSTI, your car is light :)
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-23-2011 07:25 AM |
I need to get mine on a scale and see where i'm at, I estimate 65kg reduction, my car is 1370kg stock.
Want to replace the both front seats next, some good weight savings there, I like the look of the sparco chrono sports.
Want to replace the both front seats next, some good weight savings there, I like the look of the sparco chrono sports.
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-23-2011 10:11 AM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]
Damn thanks for the tip, didn't think of that :(
Took another 10kg out of the car today by removing the sound deadner. Didn't have time to take the dash out so just grabbed as much foam out as I could reach. How hard is it to take the dash out and will that enable me to get all the foam out?
[/quote]
Dash is a straight forward removal if you just look for all the screws holding it in. Very time consuming though. You will most likely need to remove the HVAC to get all the sound deadening foam out. I literally took everything thing out except for the wiring harness. For example: dash, air box, hvac, steering column, dash support bar, and anything else connected to the dash.
Damn thanks for the tip, didn't think of that :(
Took another 10kg out of the car today by removing the sound deadner. Didn't have time to take the dash out so just grabbed as much foam out as I could reach. How hard is it to take the dash out and will that enable me to get all the foam out?
[/quote]
Dash is a straight forward removal if you just look for all the screws holding it in. Very time consuming though. You will most likely need to remove the HVAC to get all the sound deadening foam out. I literally took everything thing out except for the wiring harness. For example: dash, air box, hvac, steering column, dash support bar, and anything else connected to the dash.
| 68Cadillac | 04-23-2011 10:50 AM |
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33934261]Very time consuming though. You will most likely need to remove the HVAC to get all the sound deadening foam out.[/quote]
Yep not hard just time consuming. HVAC will have to come out or at least moved to get all of the foam out.
Yep not hard just time consuming. HVAC will have to come out or at least moved to get all of the foam out.
| 04jmpreza | 04-23-2011 12:57 PM |
[quote=A-man07;33483447]To me, removal of the carpet on a street car would make it look ricey, ghetto, cheap, etc. The idea is to lower the weight while retaining taste. Besides, the sound deadener underneath the carpet gives us 20-25 lbs off but the carpet is relatively light in an Impreza.[/quote]
the carpet got moldy from a leaky sunroof in the legacy, so we welded the roof an gutted the carpet and headliner. for how heavy a wagon is, i certainly notice the difference in weight reduction
the carpet got moldy from a leaky sunroof in the legacy, so we welded the roof an gutted the carpet and headliner. for how heavy a wagon is, i certainly notice the difference in weight reduction
| bemani | 04-23-2011 06:04 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33915403]Post whoring now but Just knocked this up before dinner, came out pretty good :cool:
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
Cost me $10 for material and about 40 minutes of my time :-D[/quote]
Weight saved?
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
Cost me $10 for material and about 40 minutes of my time :-D[/quote]
Weight saved?
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-23-2011 07:33 PM |
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33934261]Dash is a straight forward removal if you just look for all the screws holding it in. Very time consuming though. You will most likely need to remove the HVAC to get all the sound deadening foam out. I literally took everything thing out except for the wiring harness. For example: dash, air box, hvac, steering column, dash support bar, and anything else connected to the dash.[/quote]
Fair enough, that does sound like a lot of work, my back is sore enough already, I think I will save it for another day.
[quote=bemani;33936580]Weight saved?[/quote]
Sorry I don't have any scales but I'm guessing about 0.4kg.
Fair enough, that does sound like a lot of work, my back is sore enough already, I think I will save it for another day.
[quote=bemani;33936580]Weight saved?[/quote]
Sorry I don't have any scales but I'm guessing about 0.4kg.
| Str8Gone | 04-24-2011 01:29 AM |
[quote=Supraru;33915508]Don't believe everything you read please. That comment is lol funny.[/quote]
Its just an estimate.. It was obviously faster afterwards.
Its just an estimate.. It was obviously faster afterwards.
| stimanmark | 04-24-2011 01:40 AM |
a local subie guy ditched his factory subframe brace and installed a 4 point ladder bar brace made out of aluminum and man that knocked off like close to 50 lbs or maybe more and helped to stiffen his car up!
| BeBop86 | 04-24-2011 03:28 AM |
Does anyone know if you lose much as far as rigidity by removing the U-Brace from under the front? Or is the weight savings better worth it?
| Donkeyno9 | 04-24-2011 05:37 AM |
[quote=stimanmark;33939030]a local subie guy ditched his factory subframe brace and installed a 4 point ladder bar brace made out of aluminum and man that knocked off like close to 50 lbs or maybe more and helped to stiffen his car up![/quote]
The front or rear subframe?
The front or rear subframe?
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-24-2011 06:12 AM |
Since my stereo gear is gone and I had to remove my battery to get the sound deadner out I decided to swap the battery over to the passenger side which is where it should be really for better weight distribution. Also the fuse holder is nice and easy to get to now.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010003-9.jpg[/IMG]
Also that bracket behind the e-brake that the center console screws into, I cut it off just in front of the two holes, the console is still nice and solid with half the bracket missing.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010007-9.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010003-9.jpg[/IMG]
Also that bracket behind the e-brake that the center console screws into, I cut it off just in front of the two holes, the console is still nice and solid with half the bracket missing.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010007-9.jpg[/IMG]
| A-man07 | 04-24-2011 07:20 AM |
[quote=stimanmark;33939030]a local subie guy ditched his factory subframe brace and installed a 4 point ladder bar brace made out of aluminum and man that knocked off like close to 50 lbs or maybe more and helped to stiffen his car up![/quote]
He ditched the U-shaped front subframe and lost 25 lbs.
[quote=Donkeyno9;33939496]The front or rear subframe?[/quote]
See above. The front crossmember holds the engine and steering rack. The rear subframe has the rear suspension and rear diff bolted to it.
He ditched the U-shaped front subframe and lost 25 lbs.
[quote=Donkeyno9;33939496]The front or rear subframe?[/quote]
See above. The front crossmember holds the engine and steering rack. The rear subframe has the rear suspension and rear diff bolted to it.
| 68Cadillac | 04-24-2011 02:03 PM |
[quote=BeBop86;33939365]Does anyone know if you lose much as far as rigidity by removing the U-Brace from under the front? Or is the weight savings better worth it?[/quote]
The front U-brace is installed for offset frontal collisions it is not designed to stiffen the chassis. You will lose a little stiffness, and by little I mean tiny.
The front U-brace is installed for offset frontal collisions it is not designed to stiffen the chassis. You will lose a little stiffness, and by little I mean tiny.
| Donkeyno9 | 04-24-2011 02:58 PM |
[quote=A-man07;33939616]He ditched the U-shaped front subframe and lost 25 lbs.
See above. The front crossmember holds the engine and steering rack. The rear subframe has the rear suspension and rear diff bolted to it.[/quote]
That's what I thought but the 50lb claim confused me. I suppose I need to get used to a few people making BS claims. 25lbs is right, more or less with/without bolts and the plastic undertray.
See above. The front crossmember holds the engine and steering rack. The rear subframe has the rear suspension and rear diff bolted to it.[/quote]
That's what I thought but the 50lb claim confused me. I suppose I need to get used to a few people making BS claims. 25lbs is right, more or less with/without bolts and the plastic undertray.
| stimanmark | 04-24-2011 03:18 PM |
I was a guess there mr smartass
| stimanmark | 04-24-2011 03:22 PM |
*It was a guess there mr smartass
| Supraru | 04-24-2011 03:34 PM |
[quote=stimanmark;33941702]I was a guess there mr smartass[/quote]
[quote=stimanmark;33941713]*It was a guess there mr smartass[/quote]
You know there is an edit button right?
[quote=stimanmark;33941713]*It was a guess there mr smartass[/quote]
You know there is an edit button right?
| stimanmark | 04-24-2011 03:48 PM |
This is the brace i was talking about
[url]http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail.php?part_number=KSB700[/url]
[url]http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail.php?part_number=KSB700[/url]
| Donkeyno9 | 04-24-2011 03:51 PM |
[quote=stimanmark;33941713]*It was a guess there mr smartass[/quote]
HEEE HAWWW!:lol:
HEEE HAWWW!:lol:
| WRX 2002 | 04-25-2011 01:14 AM |
[quote=68Cadillac;33941277]The front U-brace is installed for offset frontal collisions it is not designed to stiffen the chassis. You will lose a little stiffness, and by little I mean tiny.[/quote]
I ran a trackday without the U brace and only a 4 point Cusco brace similar to the Whiteline's. The result was not good, there was so much flex in the front end it was terrible.
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi
I ran a trackday without the U brace and only a 4 point Cusco brace similar to the Whiteline's. The result was not good, there was so much flex in the front end it was terrible.
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-25-2011 01:21 AM |
[quote=bemani;33936580]Weight saved?[/quote]
ok got a weight for you, stock bonnet prop is 530g mine is 80g.
[quote=WRX 2002;33945627]I ran a trackday without the U brace and only a 4 point Cusco brace similar to the Whiteline's. The result was not good, there was so much flex in the front end it was terrible.
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi[/quote]
Yes this is what I'm worried about, I have a h-brace replacing mine and on the street it feels fine but I will be back at the track soon.
I added up some of my weight taken off today and estimate it at about 80kg (176lbs) less than kerb weight plus I removed 11kg of stereo gear. This is still with the spare tire, jack and tools in place.
ok got a weight for you, stock bonnet prop is 530g mine is 80g.
[quote=WRX 2002;33945627]I ran a trackday without the U brace and only a 4 point Cusco brace similar to the Whiteline's. The result was not good, there was so much flex in the front end it was terrible.
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi[/quote]
Yes this is what I'm worried about, I have a h-brace replacing mine and on the street it feels fine but I will be back at the track soon.
I added up some of my weight taken off today and estimate it at about 80kg (176lbs) less than kerb weight plus I removed 11kg of stereo gear. This is still with the spare tire, jack and tools in place.
| stimanmark | 04-25-2011 06:28 PM |
[quote=WRX 2002;33945627]I ran a trackday without the U brace and only a 4 point Cusco brace similar to the Whiteline's. The result was not good, there was so much flex in the front end it was terrible.
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi[/quote]
Hmmm thanks for that info...i will pass it along to my friend that installed his Whiteline
I ended up replacing both with a light weight Oswald performance brace. This was on a 04 STi[/quote]
Hmmm thanks for that info...i will pass it along to my friend that installed his Whiteline
| Murphdog | 04-25-2011 06:33 PM |
I'm about to hit the track without my U brace and the subimods H brace installed, I'm thinking it will be fine. When I removed the u brace I noticed the mounts for the center 4 bolts are really flimsy and the front part of the brace is very flimsy. I cant see how it would add any stability at all. But I guess I will see soon.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-28-2011 06:23 PM |
Rear center seat-belt delete, used jack access door from boot liner.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010016-6.jpg[/IMG]
made my own grab handle deletes.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-7.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-6.jpg[/IMG]
This is all the recent stuff I have taken off, also done front bumper beam, lightweight battery, lighter wheels and front rotors (2-piece).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-6.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Weight loss Breakdown[/B]
All weights are estimated to the best of my ability.
[B]Full loss[/B] = 90kg (includes stereo and aesthetics)
[B]Total weight lost from Kerb Weight[/B] = 71.5kg
[B]Weight lost due to removal of safety items[/B] = 27.8kg (bumper beam, u-brace, rear side impact protection)
[B]Loss from brackets, trim & noise barrier[/B] = 28.3kg
[B]Unsprung[/B] ~ 11kg
[B]Lost from front[/B] = 51.2kg (B-pillar forward)
[B]Lost from rear[/B] = 20.3kg (B-pillar backward)
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010016-6.jpg[/IMG]
made my own grab handle deletes.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-7.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-6.jpg[/IMG]
This is all the recent stuff I have taken off, also done front bumper beam, lightweight battery, lighter wheels and front rotors (2-piece).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-6.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Weight loss Breakdown[/B]
All weights are estimated to the best of my ability.
[B]Full loss[/B] = 90kg (includes stereo and aesthetics)
[B]Total weight lost from Kerb Weight[/B] = 71.5kg
[B]Weight lost due to removal of safety items[/B] = 27.8kg (bumper beam, u-brace, rear side impact protection)
[B]Loss from brackets, trim & noise barrier[/B] = 28.3kg
[B]Unsprung[/B] ~ 11kg
[B]Lost from front[/B] = 51.2kg (B-pillar forward)
[B]Lost from rear[/B] = 20.3kg (B-pillar backward)
| BeBop86 | 04-28-2011 07:47 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33983061]made my own grab handle deletes.[/quote]
What is this? Velcro and Fabric?
What is this? Velcro and Fabric?
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-28-2011 08:27 PM |
[quote=BeBop86;33983705]What is this? Velcro and Fabric?[/quote]
I just took the plastic plug to a large fabric store and matched the colour by eye, found one that was very close. I used cardboard and PVA wood glue to make the shapes and stick the fabric down.
I just took the plastic plug to a large fabric store and matched the colour by eye, found one that was very close. I used cardboard and PVA wood glue to make the shapes and stick the fabric down.
| Kentrik | 05-05-2011 12:42 AM |
Do we have anyone in here that has been in a wreck with a vehicle sans-subframe that can comment on whether or not it would have made a difference? I'm a little hesitant to remove mine... :/
| Str8Gone | 05-05-2011 01:05 AM |
I just removed that boat anchor of a rear bumper beam. 30lbs.+ with all the hardware and foam. I should now be sitting at 2790...next up AC delete, jdm front beam
| Rising Sun Subaru | 05-05-2011 02:10 AM |
Hay JD
there is also some parts under the dash you can remove(steel brackets) to loose more weight aswell as the fire way matt.
Kris
(sku81/built h6)[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33983061]Rear center seat-belt delete, used jack access door from boot liner.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010016-6.jpg[/IMG]
made my own grab handle deletes.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-7.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-6.jpg[/IMG]
This is all the recent stuff I have taken off, also done front bumper beam, lightweight battery, lighter wheels and front rotors (2-piece).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-6.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Weight loss Breakdown[/B]
All weights are estimated to the best of my ability.
[B]Full loss[/B] = 90kg (includes stereo and aesthetics)
[B]Total weight lost from Kerb Weight[/B] = 71.5kg
[B]Weight lost due to removal of safety items[/B] = 27.8kg (bumper beam, u-brace, rear side impact protection)
[B]Loss from brackets, trim & noise barrier[/B] = 28.3kg
[B]Unsprung[/B] ~ 11kg
[B]Lost from front[/B] = 51.2kg (B-pillar forward)
[B]Lost from rear[/B] = 20.3kg (B-pillar backward)[/quote]
there is also some parts under the dash you can remove(steel brackets) to loose more weight aswell as the fire way matt.
Kris
(sku81/built h6)[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33983061]Rear center seat-belt delete, used jack access door from boot liner.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010016-6.jpg[/IMG]
made my own grab handle deletes.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-7.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-6.jpg[/IMG]
This is all the recent stuff I have taken off, also done front bumper beam, lightweight battery, lighter wheels and front rotors (2-piece).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-6.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Weight loss Breakdown[/B]
All weights are estimated to the best of my ability.
[B]Full loss[/B] = 90kg (includes stereo and aesthetics)
[B]Total weight lost from Kerb Weight[/B] = 71.5kg
[B]Weight lost due to removal of safety items[/B] = 27.8kg (bumper beam, u-brace, rear side impact protection)
[B]Loss from brackets, trim & noise barrier[/B] = 28.3kg
[B]Unsprung[/B] ~ 11kg
[B]Lost from front[/B] = 51.2kg (B-pillar forward)
[B]Lost from rear[/B] = 20.3kg (B-pillar backward)[/quote]
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-05-2011 02:45 AM |
[quote=Rising Sun Subaru;34019831]Hay JD
there is also some parts under the dash you can remove(steel brackets) to loose more weight aswell as the fire way matt.
Kris
(sku81/built h6)[/quote]
Thanks Kris, looks like the dash is going to have to come out at some point, need another long weekend.
there is also some parts under the dash you can remove(steel brackets) to loose more weight aswell as the fire way matt.
Kris
(sku81/built h6)[/quote]
Thanks Kris, looks like the dash is going to have to come out at some point, need another long weekend.
| Kentrik | 05-05-2011 03:38 AM |
You can reduce the weight of some brackets, but you might not want to remove some of them, unless you've got a fully caged car....the big plates under the driver's side and in the glovebox are designed to prevent your legs from going up into everything inside of the dash in case of a wreck.
There is a lot of stuff that you can do to reduce weight, but a lot of it may bring up safety issues as well.
There is a lot of stuff that you can do to reduce weight, but a lot of it may bring up safety issues as well.
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-06-2011 08:02 AM |
Well I'm happy to say I got my u-brace replacemant with h-brace fully sorted out now with a very simple fix, steering is sharp as ever and a lot of weight is gone!
Details here [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/url]
Details here [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/url]
| Kovs04sti | 05-06-2011 08:36 AM |
How much weight did you get out without taking out the ac.?
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-06-2011 09:30 AM |
I'm pulling out my u-brace next weekend and replacing it with this new toy :D
[IMG]http://www.hspnnews.com/images/uploads/s204-damper-3-small.jpg[/IMG]
I'll post up a breakdown of what I've removed later. But it's a 2002 WRX chassis with a full Ver.8 EJ207 drivetrain (wiring/everything) and it should be sitting around 2,950lbs right now. Plan is to get it to 2,800 while keeping the interior and pushing 400whp, 5.6lbs/hp :devil:
[IMG]http://www.hspnnews.com/images/uploads/s204-damper-3-small.jpg[/IMG]
I'll post up a breakdown of what I've removed later. But it's a 2002 WRX chassis with a full Ver.8 EJ207 drivetrain (wiring/everything) and it should be sitting around 2,950lbs right now. Plan is to get it to 2,800 while keeping the interior and pushing 400whp, 5.6lbs/hp :devil:
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-07-2011 04:36 AM |
How are you going to bolt that up? without the u-brace you will run into the same problems I had and you will need some kind of spacers.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-07-2011 11:40 AM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]How are you going to bolt that up? without the u-brace you will run into the same problems I had and you will need some kind of spacers.[/quote]
I'll figure something out heh.
I'll figure something out heh.
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-08-2011 02:14 AM |
Removed some exhaust heat shield and vibration dampers off the tranny and rear crossmember, a little over 2kg all up.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-10.jpg[/IMG]
Replaced with aluminum heat shield tape rated to 150 degrees.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-7.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-10.jpg[/IMG]
Replaced with aluminum heat shield tape rated to 150 degrees.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010004-7.jpg[/IMG]
| 573 | 05-09-2011 10:15 PM |
I chopped the top, dropped the gas tank, took off the doors, and removed the rear end. Lightest STi in the thread? I think so.
[img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230437_10150589604360177_695945176_18571481_7238356_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230437_10150589604360177_695945176_18571481_7238356_n.jpg[/img]
| Splinter | 05-09-2011 11:51 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34043416]Replaced with aluminum heat shield tape rated to 150 degrees.[/quote]
I'm not running any heat shielding of any sort and I haven't had any problems. I think the same goes for most people with aftermarket exhausts...
I'm not running any heat shielding of any sort and I haven't had any problems. I think the same goes for most people with aftermarket exhausts...
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-10-2011 12:53 AM |
[quote=Splinter;34058076]I'm not running any heat shielding of any sort and I haven't had any problems. I think the same goes for most people with aftermarket exhausts...[/quote]
The heat shielding I removed is fitted to the chassis not the exhaust so unless you removed it then you're running it or the GC8 doesn't have any.
The heat shielding I removed is fitted to the chassis not the exhaust so unless you removed it then you're running it or the GC8 doesn't have any.
| Splinter | 05-10-2011 01:42 AM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34058487]The heat shielding I removed is fitted to the chassis not the exhaust so unless you removed it then you're running it or the GC8 doesn't have any.[/quote]
Removed that too. Again, no problems. Also running a titanium catback, which isn't exhaust known for its heat retention!
Removed that too. Again, no problems. Also running a titanium catback, which isn't exhaust known for its heat retention!
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-10-2011 04:11 AM |
You won't get any problems its just going to heat up the fuel in the tank a little.
Today I removed the green brackets over the injectors and replaced the power steering fluid resevior bracket with a home made one that weighs 35g. In the last 2 days I have removed 4.4kg
Today I removed the green brackets over the injectors and replaced the power steering fluid resevior bracket with a home made one that weighs 35g. In the last 2 days I have removed 4.4kg
| Kentrik | 05-10-2011 04:22 AM |
Has anyone considered switching to an electric power steering setup to conserve weight and to also free up one of the pulleys on the engine? I wonder how much difference that would make...
| BeBop86 | 05-10-2011 12:58 PM |
[B]Kentrik[/B], I was begining to look into it, it would take a[U] much [/U]higher output alternator. Not sure if the added weight would be worth the free'd up HP.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-10-2011 01:12 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34038508]How are you going to bolt that up? without the u-brace you will run into the same problems I had and you will need some kind of spacers.[/quote]
Just thinking, why couldn't you bolt your strut bar up without spacers? What was the issue?
Just thinking, why couldn't you bolt your strut bar up without spacers? What was the issue?
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-10-2011 06:11 PM |
[quote=LIQUIDSK8S;34061936]Just thinking, why couldn't you bolt your strut bar up without spacers? What was the issue?[/quote]
Its not a strut bar, its a lower arm bar.
Its not a strut bar, its a lower arm bar.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-10-2011 06:39 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34064955]Its not a strut bar, its a lower arm bar.[/quote]
K, what was the reason it wouldn't bolt up without spacers? If it's a clearance issue, what was it hitting?
K, what was the reason it wouldn't bolt up without spacers? If it's a clearance issue, what was it hitting?
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-10-2011 07:01 PM |
[quote=LIQUIDSK8S;34065183]K, what was the reason it wouldn't bolt up without spacers? If it's a clearance issue, what was it hitting?[/quote]
You said you were removing your u-brace first and then bolting in that lower arm bar you posted a picture of. That bar is designed to bolt to the u-brace so without it you are going to need spacers to fill the gap, same problem I had when using a h-brace and no u-brace [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/url]
You said you were removing your u-brace first and then bolting in that lower arm bar you posted a picture of. That bar is designed to bolt to the u-brace so without it you are going to need spacers to fill the gap, same problem I had when using a h-brace and no u-brace [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/url]
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-10-2011 09:17 PM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]
You said you were removing your u-brace first and then bolting in that lower arm bar you posted a picture of. That bar is designed to bolt to the u-brace so without it you are going to need spacers to fill the gap, same problem I had when using a h-brace and no u-brace [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40"]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/URL][/quote]
I realize that, but I was looking for a specific reason. Being that the subframe is acting as a spacer, I'll assume the problem you had was the bolts being too long and needing a spacer to fill the gap. If this was the case, why not get shorter bolts?
You said you were removing your u-brace first and then bolting in that lower arm bar you posted a picture of. That bar is designed to bolt to the u-brace so without it you are going to need spacers to fill the gap, same problem I had when using a h-brace and no u-brace [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40"]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34030261&postcount=40[/URL][/quote]
I realize that, but I was looking for a specific reason. Being that the subframe is acting as a spacer, I'll assume the problem you had was the bolts being too long and needing a spacer to fill the gap. If this was the case, why not get shorter bolts?
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-10-2011 09:39 PM |
Mine bolts up in 4 locations so its not like you can just use shorter bolts as once the rear bolts are torqued up it leaves a gap at the front.
For your bar it may not be an issue as you only have 2 mounting points, you may just be able to bolt it up, I'll be interested to see how you go.
Has anyone considered retrofitting a My08-11 plastic manifold, its got to be lighter and suffer less heat soak issues?
For your bar it may not be an issue as you only have 2 mounting points, you may just be able to bolt it up, I'll be interested to see how you go.
Has anyone considered retrofitting a My08-11 plastic manifold, its got to be lighter and suffer less heat soak issues?
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-11-2011 05:54 AM |
Just finished making a new cruise control support bracket, saved about half a kilo.
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Still uses the rubber mounting grommets and is nice and firm.
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Fuel filter bracket, not a huge saving but it all adds up. Also removed two brackets from the front doors.
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Still uses the rubber mounting grommets and is nice and firm.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/11052011264.jpg[/IMG]
Fuel filter bracket, not a huge saving but it all adds up. Also removed two brackets from the front doors.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/11052011265.jpg[/IMG]
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-11-2011 09:02 AM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]Mine bolts up in 4 locations so its not like you can just use shorter bolts as once the rear bolts are torqued up it leaves a gap at the front.
For your bar it may not be an issue as you only have 2 mounting points, you may just be able to bolt it up, I'll be interested to see how you go.
Has anyone considered retrofitting a My08-11 plastic manifold, its got to be lighter and suffer less heat soak issues?[/quote]
That makes sense, for some reason I thought yours was just a bar too. I'll let you guys know how it fits.
For your bar it may not be an issue as you only have 2 mounting points, you may just be able to bolt it up, I'll be interested to see how you go.
Has anyone considered retrofitting a My08-11 plastic manifold, its got to be lighter and suffer less heat soak issues?[/quote]
That makes sense, for some reason I thought yours was just a bar too. I'll let you guys know how it fits.
| JDwhiteWRX | 05-16-2011 06:20 PM |
Just thought I'd report back on this after taking my car to the track today, I knocked three tenths off my PB, also let one of the instructors drive my car and he was impressed with how well it handled, commented on its sharp turn-in.
So yeah I'm real happy with this mod, h-brace was only $35 plus shipping.
So yeah I'm real happy with this mod, h-brace was only $35 plus shipping.
| Splinter | 05-17-2011 11:21 AM |
Ugh. Just got a nasty call from the reality police. Got my car up on some race scales, 2813lbs with a full tank of gas. 100lbs more than I calculated :(
Good news is that with me in the car, it was a 59f/41r weight distribution.
Good news is that with me in the car, it was a 59f/41r weight distribution.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-19-2011 02:35 AM |
Tried to bolt up the JDM STi strut damper this weekend after removing my subframe. It's going to need a large washer for two reasons. First is that the bolt is too long and the threads stop halfway. The 2nd is due to the bar touching without the spacers.
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The rear bar I had to "make" fit due to it not coming with the mounting brackets. The design is different so I needed to widen the bracket to accept it. I'll also get a large washer to fill the void.
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The rear bar I had to "make" fit due to it not coming with the mounting brackets. The design is different so I needed to widen the bracket to accept it. I'll also get a large washer to fill the void.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/liquidsk8s/Cars/STI/My%20JDM%20STi/Work%20Done/IMG_1195.jpg[/IMG]
| BeBop86 | 05-19-2011 03:14 AM |
Just curious, can you compress those dampers by pushing on them? Or are they stiff enough you couldn't do it by hand?
Just trying to figure out why you/they would use a damper instead of a rigid piece of metal as a brace.
Just trying to figure out why you/they would use a damper instead of a rigid piece of metal as a brace.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-19-2011 08:42 AM |
[quote="BeBop86"]Just curious, can you compress those dampers by pushing on them? Or are they stiff enough you couldn't do it by hand?
Just trying to figure out why you/they would use a damper instead of a rigid piece of metal as a brace.[/quote]
You can't move them at all, extremely stiff. The reasoning is to offer a compliant ride over harsh surfaces while also giving quick responses like a solid strut bar.
Just trying to figure out why you/they would use a damper instead of a rigid piece of metal as a brace.[/quote]
You can't move them at all, extremely stiff. The reasoning is to offer a compliant ride over harsh surfaces while also giving quick responses like a solid strut bar.
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