| JDwhiteWRX | 05-19-2011 08:21 PM |
[quote=LIQUIDSK8S;34140165]Tried to bolt up the JDM STi strut damper this weekend after removing my subframe. It's going to need a large washer for two reasons. First is that the bolt is too long and the threads stop halfway. The 2nd is due to the bar touching without the spacers.
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I thought you may have trouble with this, try keep the spacers as small as possible and buy shorter bolts if you need to.
[quote=Splinter;34121539]Ugh. Just got a nasty call from the reality police. Got my car up on some race scales, 2813lbs with a full tank of gas. 100lbs more than I calculated :(
Good news is that with me in the car, it was a 59f/41r weight distribution.[/quote]
I also weighed my car the other day too, came out at 2866lbs with half a tank of gas. Still lots more things to do.
[/quote]
I thought you may have trouble with this, try keep the spacers as small as possible and buy shorter bolts if you need to.
[quote=Splinter;34121539]Ugh. Just got a nasty call from the reality police. Got my car up on some race scales, 2813lbs with a full tank of gas. 100lbs more than I calculated :(
Good news is that with me in the car, it was a 59f/41r weight distribution.[/quote]
I also weighed my car the other day too, came out at 2866lbs with half a tank of gas. Still lots more things to do.
| Splinter | 05-19-2011 11:59 PM |
6MT + r180 + brembos are effin' heavy :(
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-20-2011 09:10 AM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]
I thought you may have trouble with this, try keep the spacers as small as possible and buy shorter bolts if you need to.
[/quote]
I could flip the bar so the mounts are upside down, but I'm not sure how it will affect it, and even then I'd need shorter bolts.
I thought you may have trouble with this, try keep the spacers as small as possible and buy shorter bolts if you need to.
[/quote]
I could flip the bar so the mounts are upside down, but I'm not sure how it will affect it, and even then I'd need shorter bolts.
| Str8Gone | 05-20-2011 04:20 PM |
Anyone know where theres a good AC removal writeup? The nasioc search sucks so bad, it never helps.
| gtasti | 05-20-2011 05:11 PM |
not very hard to remove the AC pretty straight forward if you ask me
liquid your trying to lighten your car but whats with all the sound dead no need for the at stuff :D
liquid your trying to lighten your car but whats with all the sound dead no need for the at stuff :D
| Splinter | 05-20-2011 05:28 PM |
[quote=Str8Gone;34154372]Anyone know where theres a good AC removal writeup? The nasioc search sucks so bad, it never helps.[/quote]
Just... remove everything?
Just... remove everything?
| gtasti | 05-20-2011 06:08 PM |
yea pretty much remove everything but first let the gas out wear gloves for that and eye protection just incase you never know
only hard part is removing the air condenser idk if it could be done without removing the rad
only hard part is removing the air condenser idk if it could be done without removing the rad
| Splinter | 05-20-2011 06:11 PM |
[quote=gtasti;34155339]yea pretty much remove everything but first let the gas out wear gloves for that and eye protection just incase you never know[/quote]
In theory you should get it drained at a shop, it's pretty cheap.
In theory you should get it drained at a shop, it's pretty cheap.
| saveatlas | 05-20-2011 06:56 PM |
I would recomend possibly taking off the plastic molding of the fender wells, depending on what you are using the car for. I did it to shave some weight for my rally x car.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 05-20-2011 07:20 PM |
[quote=gtasti;34154866]
liquid your trying to lighten your car but whats with all the sound dead no need for the at stuff :D[/quote]
Yeah I went with the light but refined route :lol:. I estimate that it added roughly 30-40lbs to the car which is livable. Maybe someday I"ll remove it though.
liquid your trying to lighten your car but whats with all the sound dead no need for the at stuff :D[/quote]
Yeah I went with the light but refined route :lol:. I estimate that it added roughly 30-40lbs to the car which is livable. Maybe someday I"ll remove it though.
| JH02WrxWag | 05-20-2011 09:45 PM |
I've been looking into what I can remove/replace to lighten my 02 wagon. I know the hatch weighs a bit, but don't have the 600$ to replace it yet. Along with plexiglass windows, rear only scratches on the front would make it impossible to see. If I don't swap the rear hatch I'd want to re balance the weight though. Minus gutting out the interior, not looking to do a complete conversion.
I've only skimmed this thread but didn't see much about replacing the rear glass and thought some might like it (easy 40-60lb+ don't know the difference).
I've only skimmed this thread but didn't see much about replacing the rear glass and thought some might like it (easy 40-60lb+ don't know the difference).
| gtasti | 05-20-2011 10:23 PM |
[quote=Splinter;34155357]In theory you should get it drained at a shop, it's pretty cheap.[/quote]
Very true
Very true
| u2_m4r1n3 | 05-21-2011 08:02 PM |
[quote=JH02WrxWag;34156653]I've been looking into what I can remove/replace to lighten my 02 wagon. I know the hatch weighs a bit, but don't have the 600$ to replace it yet. Along with plexiglass windows, rear only scratches on the front would make it impossible to see. If I don't swap the rear hatch I'd want to re balance the weight though. Minus gutting out the interior, not looking to do a complete conversion.
I've only skimmed this thread but didn't see much about replacing the rear glass and thought some might like it (easy 40-60lb+ don't know the difference).[/quote]
I'be thought about the rear glass. Issues I've come up with is: loss of the rear defrosters, maintaining the rear glass (keeping it clean to prevent scratches), and there are a lot of other areas in yhe rear to take weight off. The front is the hard part, that's where I'm trying to focus. When i get a second car, the a/c and other minor things are comig off the front. Keeping the airbags though.
I've only skimmed this thread but didn't see much about replacing the rear glass and thought some might like it (easy 40-60lb+ don't know the difference).[/quote]
I'be thought about the rear glass. Issues I've come up with is: loss of the rear defrosters, maintaining the rear glass (keeping it clean to prevent scratches), and there are a lot of other areas in yhe rear to take weight off. The front is the hard part, that's where I'm trying to focus. When i get a second car, the a/c and other minor things are comig off the front. Keeping the airbags though.
| Cooper2.5 | 05-22-2011 09:53 PM |
Look for a carbon fiber trunk too!
| JH02WrxWag | 05-22-2011 10:32 PM |
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;34161936]I'be thought about the rear glass. Issues I've come up with is: loss of the rear defrosters, maintaining the rear glass (keeping it clean to prevent scratches), and there are a lot of other areas in yhe rear to take weight off. The front is the hard part, that's where I'm trying to focus. When i get a second car, the a/c and other minor things are comig off the front. Keeping the airbags though.[/quote]
Plexiglass is a bit different than regular glass, plus I would tint it. Thermal and cooling properties are different, of course reg. glass withstands greater changes w/o changing but plexiglass is cheap to replace, there also is anti-fog spray for plexiglass. I wouldn't use an ice scrapper on it, just warm water if it ices up in the winter.
I really don't want to lose anything unless I can replace it w/ something lighter. Considering the drag you get w/ windows down opposed to up & a/c on, I'll keep it. If your going for a 1/4 car every lb is worth it.
Plexiglass is a bit different than regular glass, plus I would tint it. Thermal and cooling properties are different, of course reg. glass withstands greater changes w/o changing but plexiglass is cheap to replace, there also is anti-fog spray for plexiglass. I wouldn't use an ice scrapper on it, just warm water if it ices up in the winter.
I really don't want to lose anything unless I can replace it w/ something lighter. Considering the drag you get w/ windows down opposed to up & a/c on, I'll keep it. If your going for a 1/4 car every lb is worth it.
| 573 | 06-23-2011 10:01 PM |
I had the evening free yesterday so I figured I'd dabble in weight reduction. I took the dash off so I could pull out all of the sound deadening foam that lines the fire wall. While I was at it, I relocated the ECU so that I could remove the OMG 3 pound kick plate and bracket. All in all, I pulled out about 20 pounds of ****. The car feels marginally better, and the NVH only got marginally worse. That's a win in my book.
[img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260499_10150664823280177_695945176_19321004_1557084_n.jpg[/img]
The ECU in its new home.
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This stuff could be ditched.
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And here's the foam that I pulled out.
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[img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260499_10150664823280177_695945176_19321004_1557084_n.jpg[/img]
The ECU in its new home.
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This stuff could be ditched.
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And here's the foam that I pulled out.
[img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268626_10150664824095177_695945176_19321026_2357405_n.jpg[/img]
| WRX 2002 | 06-23-2011 11:07 PM |
You can feel a .67% weight reduction...?
| 573 | 06-24-2011 12:08 PM |
May have been mostly placebo effect, but it honestly did feel slightly better.
| Supraru | 06-24-2011 12:45 PM |
It's the extra noise that makes him think it's faster. You're not gonna fell that no matter what you think.
| Jack | 06-24-2011 12:56 PM |
[quote=Supraru;34447098]It's the extra noise that makes him think it's faster. You're not gonna fell that no matter what you think.[/quote]
^this
I took 250 pounds out of my 87 Honda CRX-SI racecar. I could feel the difference. At the 100 pounds lost point, not any difference noticed whatsoever.
^this
I took 250 pounds out of my 87 Honda CRX-SI racecar. I could feel the difference. At the 100 pounds lost point, not any difference noticed whatsoever.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 06-24-2011 03:37 PM |
[quote=Jack ffr1846;34447196]^this
I took 250 pounds out of my 87 Honda CRX-SI racecar. I could feel the difference. At the 100 pounds lost point, not any difference noticed whatsoever.[/quote]
It also depends on where the weight was removed. 100lbs overall isn't really going to be felt much at all....... but 100lbs off the front end is going to be a night and day difference.
I took 250 pounds out of my 87 Honda CRX-SI racecar. I could feel the difference. At the 100 pounds lost point, not any difference noticed whatsoever.[/quote]
It also depends on where the weight was removed. 100lbs overall isn't really going to be felt much at all....... but 100lbs off the front end is going to be a night and day difference.
| Str8Gone | 06-24-2011 10:27 PM |
If your car is already light, it's easier to feel small reductions in weight.
| Fat Black Pig Sac | 06-25-2011 01:14 AM |
[quote=573;34446790]May have been mostly placebo effect, but it honestly did feel slightly better.[/quote]
how much gas do you usually have in your tank?
how much gas do you usually have in your tank?
| xdrian | 06-25-2011 01:39 AM |
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/xdrian/2011-06-249518-43-2495137.jpg[/IMG]
| 573 | 06-25-2011 08:30 AM |
[quote=Fat Black Pig Sac;34452749]how much gas do you usually have in your tank?[/quote]
I had about a quarter tank.
I think the main reason I felt a slight difference is because it came off the front of the car. I think most of us can agree that a light weight battery makes a perceivable difference, and this was a similar amount of weight dropped from near the front of the car. It certainly didn't make a night and day difference. The car just felt like it turned in better the first time I went around a turn kind of hot. Now, I'm used to it and it just feels normal.
I had about a quarter tank.
I think the main reason I felt a slight difference is because it came off the front of the car. I think most of us can agree that a light weight battery makes a perceivable difference, and this was a similar amount of weight dropped from near the front of the car. It certainly didn't make a night and day difference. The car just felt like it turned in better the first time I went around a turn kind of hot. Now, I'm used to it and it just feels normal.
| Str8Gone | 07-06-2011 02:02 AM |
^Thats nuts xadrian, what weight is she at now?
| JDwhiteWRX | 07-26-2011 05:53 AM |
Just got some Bride Zeta ll, saved about 38lbs.
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| indytruckboy | 07-26-2011 09:14 AM |
[quote=xdrian;34452848][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/xdrian/2011-06-249518-43-2495137.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Thats the best bars you could come up with. I think that exhaust pipe is going to buckle under the slightest bump.
Thats the best bars you could come up with. I think that exhaust pipe is going to buckle under the slightest bump.
| 573 | 08-04-2011 10:05 PM |
All of this stuff came out:
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I cleaned up the tar residue and tough bits with gas and a wire wheel(I had already removed the tar sound deadening), scuffed up the surface with a scotch bright pad, cleaned the surface with brake clean, and then applied 2 coats of Duplicolor truck bed liner. Oh, and I also relocated some of the wires and covered the holes with multiple layers of aluminium tape.
[img]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/185481_10150752535630177_695945176_20123667_6364088_n.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty happy with the outcome. In addition to shedding a decent bit of weight, I also added a considerable amount of cargo space and made it more durable. This bed liner will be much easier to clean than the carpet, as well. So, I guess it's as much of a practicality mod as it is a weight reduction mod.
I left all of the trim pieces that are visible from the front of the car and through the rear view mirror. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a stripped car just yet. This setup is nice because all I have to do to make it look bone stock back there is extend the cargo cover.
[img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/284472_10150752537935177_695945176_20123690_4874002_n.jpg[/img]
I cleaned up the tar residue and tough bits with gas and a wire wheel(I had already removed the tar sound deadening), scuffed up the surface with a scotch bright pad, cleaned the surface with brake clean, and then applied 2 coats of Duplicolor truck bed liner. Oh, and I also relocated some of the wires and covered the holes with multiple layers of aluminium tape.
[img]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/185481_10150752535630177_695945176_20123667_6364088_n.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty happy with the outcome. In addition to shedding a decent bit of weight, I also added a considerable amount of cargo space and made it more durable. This bed liner will be much easier to clean than the carpet, as well. So, I guess it's as much of a practicality mod as it is a weight reduction mod.
I left all of the trim pieces that are visible from the front of the car and through the rear view mirror. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a stripped car just yet. This setup is nice because all I have to do to make it look bone stock back there is extend the cargo cover.
| billzebub | 08-04-2011 10:33 PM |
[quote=gtasti;33469048]thats a good idea but i have to keep my battery on a trickly charger
those small batterys dont last more then a week without starting the car[/quote]
~2 days in my experience. And the headlamps would dim at idle. And the stereo fritzed out on loud bass notes at half volume. Just all around dreadful performance, and I realized, I never race anyways.
those small batterys dont last more then a week without starting the car[/quote]
~2 days in my experience. And the headlamps would dim at idle. And the stereo fritzed out on loud bass notes at half volume. Just all around dreadful performance, and I realized, I never race anyways.
| JDwhiteWRX | 08-26-2011 08:51 PM |
Got a JDM rear seat with pass through delete, saves a few kg
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010043.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010043.jpg[/IMG]
| kh15 | 08-26-2011 09:11 PM |
What purpose does the U brace serve underneath our cars?
| fallehero_08 | 08-26-2011 10:30 PM |
thats debated a lot, mostly for low speed impact ratings. i have removed mine completely and replaced it with a ladder brace.
| A-man07 | 08-27-2011 07:10 AM |
[quote=kh15;34963834]What purpose does the U brace serve underneath our cars?[/quote]
It gets debated but it really shouldn't. It unquestionably serves to protect in an offset frontal impact. This is in Subaru releases about the car and allowed the Impreza to go from a 4 star rating to a 5 star crash rating (US testing).
What is debated is whether or not it helps significantly in stiffening the front chassis. Many prefer it on but I liked the feel of the car much better without it so I left it off.
It gets debated but it really shouldn't. It unquestionably serves to protect in an offset frontal impact. This is in Subaru releases about the car and allowed the Impreza to go from a 4 star rating to a 5 star crash rating (US testing).
What is debated is whether or not it helps significantly in stiffening the front chassis. Many prefer it on but I liked the feel of the car much better without it so I left it off.
| LIQUIDSK8S | 08-27-2011 09:29 AM |
[quote="A-man07"]
It gets debated but it really shouldn't. It unquestionably serves to protect in an offset frontal impact. This is in Subaru releases about the car and allowed the Impreza to go from a 4 star rating to a 5 star crash rating (US testing).
What is debated is whether or not it helps significantly in stiffening the front chassis. Many prefer it on but I liked the feel of the car much better without it so I left it off.[/quote]
It may help a little, but the chassis is still really strong without it, which is why some of the STi's came without it. But like you said, it feels great without it.
It gets debated but it really shouldn't. It unquestionably serves to protect in an offset frontal impact. This is in Subaru releases about the car and allowed the Impreza to go from a 4 star rating to a 5 star crash rating (US testing).
What is debated is whether or not it helps significantly in stiffening the front chassis. Many prefer it on but I liked the feel of the car much better without it so I left it off.[/quote]
It may help a little, but the chassis is still really strong without it, which is why some of the STi's came without it. But like you said, it feels great without it.
| JDwhiteWRX | 08-27-2011 10:56 PM |
The handling becomes worse without it, no doubt about it in my mind. You need to put some kind of brace in its place if you remove it and want to retain at least as good as stock handling. The weight reduction is noticeable as the steering becomes lighter and more direct but there is more flex under the front end, I notice it mainly under hard acceleration.
| 573 | 08-27-2011 11:54 PM |
Has anybody removed one of the radiator fans to save weight? I feel like one could probably be removed, depending on the climate, and perhaps whether or not the ac has been deleted, without problem.
| Ysidro | 08-28-2011 01:56 AM |
Dont forget to hit the treadmill.
| A-man07 | 08-28-2011 07:11 AM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34970930]The handling becomes worse without it, no doubt about it in my mind. You need to put some kind of brace in its place if you remove it and want to retain at least as good as stock handling. The weight reduction is noticeable as the steering becomes lighter and more direct but there is more flex under the front end, I notice it mainly under hard acceleration.[/quote]
As I said, some notice the difference quite a bit without the subframe. I didn't notice front end flexing on Stage 2 power. I eventually added a WL H-brace and that did help.
[quote=573;34971253]Has anybody removed one of the radiator fans to save weight? I feel like one could probably be removed, depending on the climate, and perhaps whether or not the ac has been deleted, without problem.[/quote]
I did and I live in the SE US (hot, hot, hot) and kept my A/C. I never had any overheating problems and my OEM temp gauge didn't seem to register any different, however, I just a did a built motor and turbo upgrade and my builder made me send him the other fan to reinstall. He said this was big no no for Subaru engine longevity.
[quote=Ysidro;34971855]Dont forget to hit the treadmill.[/quote]
That's a great a idea because personal weight loss has never been suggested in this thread :rolleyes:. And don't forget to take a dump prior to getting in the car.
As I said, some notice the difference quite a bit without the subframe. I didn't notice front end flexing on Stage 2 power. I eventually added a WL H-brace and that did help.
[quote=573;34971253]Has anybody removed one of the radiator fans to save weight? I feel like one could probably be removed, depending on the climate, and perhaps whether or not the ac has been deleted, without problem.[/quote]
I did and I live in the SE US (hot, hot, hot) and kept my A/C. I never had any overheating problems and my OEM temp gauge didn't seem to register any different, however, I just a did a built motor and turbo upgrade and my builder made me send him the other fan to reinstall. He said this was big no no for Subaru engine longevity.
[quote=Ysidro;34971855]Dont forget to hit the treadmill.[/quote]
That's a great a idea because personal weight loss has never been suggested in this thread :rolleyes:. And don't forget to take a dump prior to getting in the car.
| 573 | 08-28-2011 07:47 AM |
[quote=A-man07;34972373]
I did and I live in the SE US (hot, hot, hot) and kept my A/C. I never had any overheating problems and my OEM temp gauge didn't seem to register any different, however, I just a did a built motor and turbo upgrade and my builder made me send him the other fan to reinstall. He said this was big no no for Subaru engine longevity.
[/quote]
Interesting. When I get some free time, I might try logging the water temp under different conditions, both with one fan and with two. I doubt that pulling a fan would make a difference when the car is moving, but I can imagine the car taking longer to cool down after an auto-x run or something of the like.
I did and I live in the SE US (hot, hot, hot) and kept my A/C. I never had any overheating problems and my OEM temp gauge didn't seem to register any different, however, I just a did a built motor and turbo upgrade and my builder made me send him the other fan to reinstall. He said this was big no no for Subaru engine longevity.
[/quote]
Interesting. When I get some free time, I might try logging the water temp under different conditions, both with one fan and with two. I doubt that pulling a fan would make a difference when the car is moving, but I can imagine the car taking longer to cool down after an auto-x run or something of the like.
| JDwhiteWRX | 08-28-2011 08:22 AM |
Too hot down here for only one fan.
| DarkKnightBaku | 08-28-2011 09:00 AM |
[quote="JDwhiteWRX"]The handling becomes worse without it, no doubt about it in my mind. You need to put some kind of brace in its place if you remove it and want to retain at least as good as stock handling. The weight reduction is noticeable as the steering becomes lighter and more direct but there is more flex under the front end, I notice it mainly under hard acceleration.[/quote]
Oswald Performance makes a lightweight brace, probably going to be what I go with, still doing research as to how far I will take my weight reduction adventure
Oswald Performance makes a lightweight brace, probably going to be what I go with, still doing research as to how far I will take my weight reduction adventure
| fallehero_08 | 08-28-2011 02:07 PM |
[quote=LIQUIDSK8S;34966185]It may help a little, but the chassis is still really strong without it, which is why some of the STi's came without it. But like you said, it feels great without it.[/quote]
this is true, they took it off for a few years and then put it back on in 07 i think.
and i must say, after all my weight reduction mods, my car sits about 2 in higher all around. time for coils i think. (evilgrin)
this is true, they took it off for a few years and then put it back on in 07 i think.
and i must say, after all my weight reduction mods, my car sits about 2 in higher all around. time for coils i think. (evilgrin)
| LIQUIDSK8S | 08-28-2011 03:30 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34970930]The handling becomes worse without it, no doubt about it in my mind. You need to put some kind of brace in its place if you remove it and want to retain at least as good as stock handling. The weight reduction is noticeable as the steering becomes lighter and more direct but there is more flex under the front end, I notice it mainly under hard acceleration.[/quote]
The Spec-C handles better..... but doesn't have one ;)
The Spec-C handles better..... but doesn't have one ;)
| JDwhiteWRX | 08-28-2011 06:43 PM |
[quote=LIQUIDSK8S;34974420]The Spec-C handles better..... but doesn't have one [/quote]
Seems to be a bit of a myth that the Spec C has no u-brace, this car is a spec c a guy down here is setting up for track and you can clearly see the u-brace.
[img]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x120/BTWRX/180.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x120/BTWRX/230394_2083659854459_1334002012_32565454_6229543_n.jpg[/img]
Seems to be a bit of a myth that the Spec C has no u-brace, this car is a spec c a guy down here is setting up for track and you can clearly see the u-brace.
[img]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x120/BTWRX/180.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x120/BTWRX/230394_2083659854459_1334002012_32565454_6229543_n.jpg[/img]
| Kentrik | 09-13-2011 07:04 PM |
Bump to see if anyone has the for-sure, personal, first-hand experience of running a lightweight pulley with a lightweight flywheel yet? Looking for adverse conditions from a legitimate setup (no unbalanced cobb pulleys or underdrives).
| BeBop86 | 09-13-2011 07:34 PM |
I run an ACT street-lite flywheel and a Perrin LWCP, works fine for me.
| A-man07 | 09-14-2011 05:37 AM |
Cobb pulley, ACT Streetlite and ACPT cf ds. No probs.
| stretchedk7 | 09-14-2011 05:10 PM |
^ act lw flywheel and perrin crank pulley no probs.
| Str8Gone | 09-14-2011 05:13 PM |
Exedy flywheel and perrin crank pulley, no probs over 4 years. As far the subframe goes, get a used carbing for 200 or so, saves 12 lbs. and reinforces better than stock.
| MY EJ20TTTTTT | 09-14-2011 05:15 PM |
this thread is full of win
| gtasti | 09-14-2011 05:49 PM |
as for subframe I'd go with oswalds one its top notch
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| WRX 2002 | 09-15-2011 12:32 AM |
I'v just about got all the Oswald products. All very good quality and service level to match.
| gtasti | 09-15-2011 05:57 PM |
[quote=WRX 2002;35117690]I'v just about got all the Oswald products. All very good quality and service level to match.[/quote]
yea same here very good stuff
yea same here very good stuff
| LIQUIDSK8S | 09-15-2011 06:00 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;34975549]Seems to be a bit of a myth that the Spec C has no u-brace, this car is a spec c a guy down here is setting up for track and you can clearly see the u-brace.
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I've seen Spec C's that came without one. Forget which year, but they definitely took it off at one point.
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I've seen Spec C's that came without one. Forget which year, but they definitely took it off at one point.
| JDwhiteWRX | 09-16-2011 01:51 AM |
I currently have a h-brace in place of my u-brace with some custom spacers, its posted a few pages back. Anyway its not stiff enough for me so I am looking to go with a GC8 h-brace which mounts to the back of the control arms (you have to trim some metal away on a GD) I found this brace which is steel, they had one in stock at my local autoparts store and it felt a lot stiffer than my aluminum brace. They are cheap on ebay too.
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| fallehero_08 | 09-16-2011 05:19 PM |
[quote=Kentrik;35105192]Bump to see if anyone has the for-sure, personal, first-hand experience of running a lightweight pulley with a lightweight flywheel yet? Looking for adverse conditions from a legitimate setup (no unbalanced cobb pulleys or underdrives).[/quote]
9 lbs custom AL flywheel, spec stage 2+, lightweight crank pulley and under-drive pulley on alt, and driveshaft shop drive shaft. no ac either. very fast revving and acceleration. im using a ported TD04, about to go EWG too. it makes it hell to drive in traffic. when i lived in chicago i burned though a zoom stage 2 clutch in 15000 miles with the new flywheel. Most important thing is to use a stock throw out bearing. Subaru OEM only... even with my oem i get some clutch chatter. and its starting to squeak on launches. only has about 22000 miles. never a single CEL though. only code it throws is for rear exhaust temp.
9 lbs custom AL flywheel, spec stage 2+, lightweight crank pulley and under-drive pulley on alt, and driveshaft shop drive shaft. no ac either. very fast revving and acceleration. im using a ported TD04, about to go EWG too. it makes it hell to drive in traffic. when i lived in chicago i burned though a zoom stage 2 clutch in 15000 miles with the new flywheel. Most important thing is to use a stock throw out bearing. Subaru OEM only... even with my oem i get some clutch chatter. and its starting to squeak on launches. only has about 22000 miles. never a single CEL though. only code it throws is for rear exhaust temp.
| Deuce Cam | 09-20-2011 05:14 PM |
Pretty sure it's just the spec c type ra that didn't have the sub frame. This is the group n homologation model; no sub frame, no abs, no body undercoating, no a/c, no dccd (it has a 6 speed with viscious center), roll up windows, smaller fuel tank, etc.
I know for certain the spec ra-r has the sub frame, but unsure on the standard spec c.
I know for certain the spec ra-r has the sub frame, but unsure on the standard spec c.
| SoCal_Scooby | 09-20-2011 05:20 PM |
But also in place of the subframe to keep it rigid they seam welded everything. so its way stiffer than a normal car
| Deuce Cam | 09-20-2011 06:17 PM |
[quote=SoCal_Scooby;35162940]But also in place of the subframe to keep it rigid they seam welded everything. so its way stiffer than a normal car[/quote]
It does have reinforced strut towers, all spec c's do. It's not like they did that to compensate for not having the subframe though. Keep in mind that all spec c's have the reinforced strut towers but the one posted above also has a subframe, same goes for the ra-r.
The subframe is there for safety. Keep in mind that it's a gigantic u-brace that only has 1 cross brace at the very front under the radiator support (not very useful for rigidity). There's no doubt that the whole brace twists/flexes with the chassis just by looking at the design. You could add a cheap h brace to help reinforce it but there are better option out there like what A-man is doing.
It does have reinforced strut towers, all spec c's do. It's not like they did that to compensate for not having the subframe though. Keep in mind that all spec c's have the reinforced strut towers but the one posted above also has a subframe, same goes for the ra-r.
The subframe is there for safety. Keep in mind that it's a gigantic u-brace that only has 1 cross brace at the very front under the radiator support (not very useful for rigidity). There's no doubt that the whole brace twists/flexes with the chassis just by looking at the design. You could add a cheap h brace to help reinforce it but there are better option out there like what A-man is doing.
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