| jorober5 | 11-20-2003 11:36 AM |
H-Stock Autocrosser?
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A question for all the Subaru autocross experts....
Which Subaru would be the "one to have" for H-stock? I'm looking for a new car for next year, and I'm thinking that the HS Mini's have it too easy, especially at the Pro Solos :)
I've looked at the following link:
[url]http://www.cars101.com[/url]
and gotten some info about weights, wheel sizes, etc., but I know that often the "real" weight is different than the published weight. In short, which Subaru do ya'll think would be an HS competive car?
Thanks in advance!
Jonathan Roberts
Which Subaru would be the "one to have" for H-stock? I'm looking for a new car for next year, and I'm thinking that the HS Mini's have it too easy, especially at the Pro Solos :)
I've looked at the following link:
[url]http://www.cars101.com[/url]
and gotten some info about weights, wheel sizes, etc., but I know that often the "real" weight is different than the published weight. In short, which Subaru do ya'll think would be an HS competive car?
Thanks in advance!
Jonathan Roberts
| KC | 11-20-2003 11:48 AM |
The only one you could run would be the 2.2L or 1.8L engines.... or is an X/T legal?
They can compete, but I don't think that it would be a front runner in HS. The Mini, 318is, and the CRX are all in HS.... and they're the front runners on a national level.
However, if it's localy just for fun, I'd find a 2.2L and throw in a set of adjustable Konis. ;)
Eric Eston (Can't remember his screne name here.... I think he's here somewhere) did trophy in 8th at Nats in a 2.2L tho....
--KC
They can compete, but I don't think that it would be a front runner in HS. The Mini, 318is, and the CRX are all in HS.... and they're the front runners on a national level.
However, if it's localy just for fun, I'd find a 2.2L and throw in a set of adjustable Konis. ;)
Eric Eston (Can't remember his screne name here.... I think he's here somewhere) did trophy in 8th at Nats in a 2.2L tho....
--KC
| jorober5 | 11-20-2003 11:59 AM |
I guess I should have clarified. I'm assuming it will be a 2.2 liter Impreza, but I wasn't sure about the differences between the year models.
At an Evolution school I was talking with Larry Fine, and he firmly believe one could be a class winner in HS. I'm not certain, but it could be fun to find out...
Jonathan
At an Evolution school I was talking with Larry Fine, and he firmly believe one could be a class winner in HS. I'm not certain, but it could be fun to find out...
Jonathan
| Rebellion | 11-20-2003 12:59 PM |
CRX = GS not HS
one of the old turbo'd ones might fair well... RX turbo perhaps or maybe an XT (the XT, not the forester xt)
one of the old turbo'd ones might fair well... RX turbo perhaps or maybe an XT (the XT, not the forester xt)
| KC | 11-20-2003 01:10 PM |
You're right. I was thinking Civic Si Hatch.
| dsmith | 11-20-2003 01:15 PM |
also, that's an e36 318is, not an e30 (GStock) that runs in HS.
david
david
| dwx | 11-20-2003 01:31 PM |
You want a later model 5 speed. Something post 1997. Those had the phase 2 2.2L motor which is more HP and torque. I think the one issue is finding wheels that will work well, since the stock wheels were pretty small on the L models. I think the alloy wheels were a factory option and not a dealer option, but I'm not positive. Those wheels were 15x6 which isn't so bad.
| Radio Flyer | 11-20-2003 01:36 PM |
Just as an FYI - The Legacy GT is in H Stock.
And we're badass. :disco:
- Eric
Lil' Red '98 2.5 GT Wagon - [url=http://members.nasioc.com/ViewMemberPics.cfm?MemberID=143]Pics[/url]
And we're badass. :disco:
- Eric
Lil' Red '98 2.5 GT Wagon - [url=http://members.nasioc.com/ViewMemberPics.cfm?MemberID=143]Pics[/url]
| zzyzx | 11-20-2003 05:20 PM |
Always best to see what happens at Nationals:
[url]http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/nationals/2003/results/groups/hs.html[/url]
8th place trophy place: '00 Subaru Impreza 2.2L
- Steve
[url]http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/nationals/2003/results/groups/hs.html[/url]
8th place trophy place: '00 Subaru Impreza 2.2L
- Steve
| trhoppe | 11-20-2003 08:25 PM |
The legacy is a PIG though!
I think that 2.2L that took 8th would be a good car for the prosolos. I think the 15x6 would almost be a better wheel then the 16x6.5 as you could fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier on the 15x6s and be pretty lightweight still.
I wonder how the front camber adjustment is on those. Did subarus before the WRX and 2.5RS come with front camber bolts??
-Tom
I think that 2.2L that took 8th would be a good car for the prosolos. I think the 15x6 would almost be a better wheel then the 16x6.5 as you could fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier on the 15x6s and be pretty lightweight still.
I wonder how the front camber adjustment is on those. Did subarus before the WRX and 2.5RS come with front camber bolts??
-Tom
| adhowe70 | 11-20-2003 11:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]The legacy is a PIG though!
I think that 2.2L that took 8th would be a good car for the prosolos. I think the 15x6 would almost be a better wheel then the 16x6.5 as you could fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier on the 15x6s and be pretty lightweight still.
I wonder how the front camber adjustment is on those. Did subarus before the WRX and 2.5RS come with front camber bolts??
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
You can't fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier under the rear fender of the GC chassis. A 225 Kuhmo, yeah, but not a Hoosier.
[B]The legacy is a PIG though!
I think that 2.2L that took 8th would be a good car for the prosolos. I think the 15x6 would almost be a better wheel then the 16x6.5 as you could fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier on the 15x6s and be pretty lightweight still.
I wonder how the front camber adjustment is on those. Did subarus before the WRX and 2.5RS come with front camber bolts??
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
You can't fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier under the rear fender of the GC chassis. A 225 Kuhmo, yeah, but not a Hoosier.
| smash0r | 11-20-2003 11:44 PM |
Methinks you need a Justy. :)
| trhoppe | 11-21-2003 12:03 AM |
225/45/15 front
205/50/15 rear
less toe out :p
-Tom
205/50/15 rear
less toe out :p
-Tom
| EHK | 11-21-2003 12:05 AM |
Jonathan, you would want to check out a 2.2 L model Impreza for HS, there should be one for sale near you. The best would be, and Im not positive if they made it with a 2.2 Liter, and it would probably be near impossible to find, but a 2.2 Brighton model would give you the best power/weight ratio.
Eric K.
Eric K.
| GuidoThePenguin | 11-21-2003 12:42 AM |
Subaru Turbo Forester is H-Stock.
| Kostamojen | 11-21-2003 02:44 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by GuidoThePenguin [/i]
[B]Subaru Turbo Forester is H-Stock. [/B][/QUOTE]
Beat me to it!
Ya, run the turbo forester and own all :)
[B]Subaru Turbo Forester is H-Stock. [/B][/QUOTE]
Beat me to it!
Ya, run the turbo forester and own all :)
| Storm | 11-21-2003 07:14 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by adhowe70[/i]
[B] You can't fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier under the rear fender of the GC chassis. A 225 Kuhmo, yeah, but not a Hoosier. [/B][/QUOTE]Sure you can.....
Email me for pics.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
[B] You can't fit a 225/45/15 Hoosier under the rear fender of the GC chassis. A 225 Kuhmo, yeah, but not a Hoosier. [/B][/QUOTE]Sure you can.....
Email me for pics.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
| Storm | 11-21-2003 07:28 AM |
Somebody had run a 95 or 96 2.2 [B]with a 5spd[/B] (supposedly non-existant) at the Richmond Subiechallange. The owner got it that way from the dealer so it wasn't a swapped trans. These are lighter yet than the post 97+ cars.
I agree that the car is competitive, but the Minis simply don't roll in the corners. Erik could have done alot better in Topeka, had he driven to his potential both days instead of just one.....:rolleyes: His second day times were just shy of FTC. I know he had alot of variables that contributed to bad times on the first day.
He ran euro-spec 15" alloys that weigh next to nothing with 225-45-15 Hoosiers:eek: that are actually FS with only 9 runs total.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
I agree that the car is competitive, but the Minis simply don't roll in the corners. Erik could have done alot better in Topeka, had he driven to his potential both days instead of just one.....:rolleyes: His second day times were just shy of FTC. I know he had alot of variables that contributed to bad times on the first day.
He ran euro-spec 15" alloys that weigh next to nothing with 225-45-15 Hoosiers:eek: that are actually FS with only 9 runs total.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
| jorober5 | 11-21-2003 08:55 AM |
Thanks for all the help. It sounds like the 2.2 liter Impreza is the way to go. Good torque and decent power to weight.
So, for the Impreza:
The website I listed above says the 4 door is actually lighter than the 2 door. Does anyone have data on the weights of 2 door, 4 door, and wagons?
Thanks again!
Jonathan
So, for the Impreza:
The website I listed above says the 4 door is actually lighter than the 2 door. Does anyone have data on the weights of 2 door, 4 door, and wagons?
Thanks again!
Jonathan
| adhowe70 | 11-21-2003 07:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Storm [/i]
[B]Sure you can.....
Email me for pics.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Jay,
Perhaps you can, but can it be done in stock trim? It would take wheel spacers to keep from rubbing the strut body. I think with the stock springs, you'd rub the crap out of the fender.
Kuhmo Ecsta V700's in the 225/50/16 size rubbed both the spring perch and the fender with the stock RS springs on my RS sedan. I can't imagine making the Hoosier work with stock springs. Coilovers? Sure! But not stock springs.
Unless the 225/45/15 Hoosiers are more narrow than their 16" counterparts. I dunno.
Andrew
[B]Sure you can.....
Email me for pics.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Jay,
Perhaps you can, but can it be done in stock trim? It would take wheel spacers to keep from rubbing the strut body. I think with the stock springs, you'd rub the crap out of the fender.
Kuhmo Ecsta V700's in the 225/50/16 size rubbed both the spring perch and the fender with the stock RS springs on my RS sedan. I can't imagine making the Hoosier work with stock springs. Coilovers? Sure! But not stock springs.
Unless the 225/45/15 Hoosiers are more narrow than their 16" counterparts. I dunno.
Andrew
| Storm | 11-23-2003 06:21 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by adhowe70 [/i]
[B]Jay,
Perhaps you can, but can it be done in stock trim? It would take wheel spacers to keep from rubbing the strut body. I think with the stock springs, you'd rub the crap out of the fender.
Kuhmo Ecsta V700's in the 225/50/16 size rubbed both the spring perch and the fender with the stock RS springs on my RS sedan. I can't imagine making the Hoosier work with stock springs. Coilovers? Sure! But not stock springs.
Unless the 225/45/15 Hoosiers are more narrow than their 16" counterparts. I dunno.
Andrew [/B][/QUOTE] It can be done in stock trim, (as Erik Eston ran in Topeka) with OE diameter lowering springs as I have done in SP and with coilovers as I currently do in SP without rubbing.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
[B]Jay,
Perhaps you can, but can it be done in stock trim? It would take wheel spacers to keep from rubbing the strut body. I think with the stock springs, you'd rub the crap out of the fender.
Kuhmo Ecsta V700's in the 225/50/16 size rubbed both the spring perch and the fender with the stock RS springs on my RS sedan. I can't imagine making the Hoosier work with stock springs. Coilovers? Sure! But not stock springs.
Unless the 225/45/15 Hoosiers are more narrow than their 16" counterparts. I dunno.
Andrew [/B][/QUOTE] It can be done in stock trim, (as Erik Eston ran in Topeka) with OE diameter lowering springs as I have done in SP and with coilovers as I currently do in SP without rubbing.
Jay Storm
[url]www.sourcemotorsports.com[/url]
| Warp3 | 11-23-2003 06:57 PM |
If you can find one, don't forget the Legacy Turbo or even the older Subaru turbo cars (RX, DL/GL, XT, etc.) as they are all under the "Subaru Turbo Sedan (NOC)" or "Subaru (NOC)" classifications (both in H-Stock).
A Legacy Turbo should make a NICE H-stock car. (I'm actually surprised it isn't explicitly listed in GS since it makes about the power of the 2.5RS on stock boost and IIRC weighs less.)
Also, I would imagine the Forester XT classing will get changed as soon as someone shows up in one and roasts the entire H-Stock field. D-Stock would probably be a better fit for it.
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url]
A Legacy Turbo should make a NICE H-stock car. (I'm actually surprised it isn't explicitly listed in GS since it makes about the power of the 2.5RS on stock boost and IIRC weighs less.)
Also, I would imagine the Forester XT classing will get changed as soon as someone shows up in one and roasts the entire H-Stock field. D-Stock would probably be a better fit for it.
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url]
| Patrick Olsen | 11-23-2003 11:07 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]The legacy is a PIG though![/B][/QUOTE]
You just haven't run against someone who knows how to handle a pig, Tom. :D [Ahnold voice][i]I eat Imprezahs for breakfahst![/i][/Ahnhold voice] :lol:
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
SM/EP warrior
[B]The legacy is a PIG though![/B][/QUOTE]
You just haven't run against someone who knows how to handle a pig, Tom. :D [Ahnold voice][i]I eat Imprezahs for breakfahst![/i][/Ahnhold voice] :lol:
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
SM/EP warrior
| STi21 | 11-26-2003 10:37 AM |
Hello All,
I'm more of a Lurker here, but I'd like to make a few quick points.
My car is a 2000 2.2L, so it does have marginally higher HP and Torque output than earlier models. It's using the Phase II Motor, without the problematic MAF Sensor.
As for wheels, the car came with 15X6 steel wheels, with 15X6 alloys as a factory option.
15X6 alloys are a dime a dozen on E-Bay. Guess where I got mine? =)
I ran the Impreza/Legacy Turbo alloys. 15lbs. I do have a set of 15X6 Euro OE alloys at about 12lbs. I didn't run those. Perhaps next year. =)
I put 205/50 15 Hoosiers on the car JUST before I ran the first day. Not scrubbed in. At all. After over a decade of Solo II you would think I would know better than this. My mistake.
Second day the tires were scrubbed in. Much improved. Not quite FTC, but fairly close.
Will a 225/45 15 fit? Yes. You don't have the rubbing issues, as the tire's overall outside diameter is much smaller than a 225/50 16, coupled with the fact that the rims are only 6" wide. Pulls in the tire.
Is a 225/45 15 a wise choice? I'm not convinced. The front camber is just under 1 degree in the negative. And the car leans quite a bit. So in reality, you're not going to actually put more rubber on the ground in the turns, and all the while you're lugging around a heavier tire.
I'm psychotic, and won't run any aftermarket parts on my cars. So I use the SPT/AGX Dampers all around, and the SPT Exhaust from the 2.5RS. Oh, and a great alignment is key here.
I hope this helps. Is the car a great HS car? Absolutely. Could it win? Possibly. But when I bought the car, I didn't know the Mini's would be in HS. Is the Mini a faster car? On most courses, absolutely. But not on all. And as we all know, the driver still plays the biggest role...
Take care all!!! =)
Erik S. Eston
2000 Impreza 2.2L HS 44
PS. Did anyone out there get the little joke with my car's number? =)
I'm more of a Lurker here, but I'd like to make a few quick points.
My car is a 2000 2.2L, so it does have marginally higher HP and Torque output than earlier models. It's using the Phase II Motor, without the problematic MAF Sensor.
As for wheels, the car came with 15X6 steel wheels, with 15X6 alloys as a factory option.
15X6 alloys are a dime a dozen on E-Bay. Guess where I got mine? =)
I ran the Impreza/Legacy Turbo alloys. 15lbs. I do have a set of 15X6 Euro OE alloys at about 12lbs. I didn't run those. Perhaps next year. =)
I put 205/50 15 Hoosiers on the car JUST before I ran the first day. Not scrubbed in. At all. After over a decade of Solo II you would think I would know better than this. My mistake.
Second day the tires were scrubbed in. Much improved. Not quite FTC, but fairly close.
Will a 225/45 15 fit? Yes. You don't have the rubbing issues, as the tire's overall outside diameter is much smaller than a 225/50 16, coupled with the fact that the rims are only 6" wide. Pulls in the tire.
Is a 225/45 15 a wise choice? I'm not convinced. The front camber is just under 1 degree in the negative. And the car leans quite a bit. So in reality, you're not going to actually put more rubber on the ground in the turns, and all the while you're lugging around a heavier tire.
I'm psychotic, and won't run any aftermarket parts on my cars. So I use the SPT/AGX Dampers all around, and the SPT Exhaust from the 2.5RS. Oh, and a great alignment is key here.
I hope this helps. Is the car a great HS car? Absolutely. Could it win? Possibly. But when I bought the car, I didn't know the Mini's would be in HS. Is the Mini a faster car? On most courses, absolutely. But not on all. And as we all know, the driver still plays the biggest role...
Take care all!!! =)
Erik S. Eston
2000 Impreza 2.2L HS 44
PS. Did anyone out there get the little joke with my car's number? =)
| Opie | 11-26-2003 12:20 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Warp3 [/i]
[B]A Legacy Turbo should make a NICE H-stock car. (I'm actually surprised it isn't explicitly listed in GS since it makes about the power of the 2.5RS on stock boost and IIRC weighs less.)
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
<---------------
This is true, in stock trim 160HP & 181ft/lbs torque. Comes stock with decent brakes including vented rear discs. The '91 has a rear LSD, 19mm FSB & 18mm RSB and weigh less than a 2.5RS coupe. :D Find one of these with the 5-spd manual and you could have some fun! :devil:
[B]A Legacy Turbo should make a NICE H-stock car. (I'm actually surprised it isn't explicitly listed in GS since it makes about the power of the 2.5RS on stock boost and IIRC weighs less.)
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
<---------------
This is true, in stock trim 160HP & 181ft/lbs torque. Comes stock with decent brakes including vented rear discs. The '91 has a rear LSD, 19mm FSB & 18mm RSB and weigh less than a 2.5RS coupe. :D Find one of these with the 5-spd manual and you could have some fun! :devil:
| linsavy | 11-27-2003 12:34 PM |
On the Legacy, the Edmund's site lists the wieght at 3140lbs for the turbo sedan. Is this wrong?
The Brightons never had a 2.2l.
I have heard before that the 4 doors weigh less than coupes. Wagons weigh somewhere around 2795lbs with sedans at 2690lbs and coupes at 2720. This is for a 97. The earlier interiors may account for some weight too, Edmunds shows the sedan at 2658 for 96. A MY00 sedan weighs in at 2735.
1995-96 2.2l = 135hp/140tq
1997-98= 137hp/145tq
1999-01 = 142hp/149tq
So a 1999 sedan trades off maybe 80lbs for 7hp and 9lbft or 3% weight for 5% more power over the 1996. That's at peak, the phase II also gives more power lower in the revs and through the band so it would seem to be the better choice.
L's do have camber adjusting bolts at the front and rear toe adjustment plus the tiny 13mm rear sway bar.
I have been toying with taking my wagon down to HS, but I am not too keen on taking off all of my fun parts. I would still likely lose to the MINI and 89 civic si that run locally. Those civics are fast at 2200lbs and double wishbone front and rear.
The Brightons never had a 2.2l.
I have heard before that the 4 doors weigh less than coupes. Wagons weigh somewhere around 2795lbs with sedans at 2690lbs and coupes at 2720. This is for a 97. The earlier interiors may account for some weight too, Edmunds shows the sedan at 2658 for 96. A MY00 sedan weighs in at 2735.
1995-96 2.2l = 135hp/140tq
1997-98= 137hp/145tq
1999-01 = 142hp/149tq
So a 1999 sedan trades off maybe 80lbs for 7hp and 9lbft or 3% weight for 5% more power over the 1996. That's at peak, the phase II also gives more power lower in the revs and through the band so it would seem to be the better choice.
L's do have camber adjusting bolts at the front and rear toe adjustment plus the tiny 13mm rear sway bar.
I have been toying with taking my wagon down to HS, but I am not too keen on taking off all of my fun parts. I would still likely lose to the MINI and 89 civic si that run locally. Those civics are fast at 2200lbs and double wishbone front and rear.
| Opie | 12-01-2003 04:16 PM |
3140 is the correct weight for the Legacy Turbo automatic, the manual weighs a bit less. I was a little optimistic in my previous statement. My RS weighed in at 2690 in autocross trim, I would assume with similar prep you could get the Legacy turbo just under 3000 lbs. Still not a bad choice given the power to weight ratio compared to the other cars eligible for HS. :D
| adhowe70 | 12-01-2003 08:50 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Opie[/i]
[B] 3140 is the correct weight for the Legacy Turbo automatic, the manual weighs a bit less. I was a little optimistic in my previous statement. My RS weighed in at 2690 in autocross trim, I would assume with similar prep you could get the Legacy turbo just under 3000 lbs. Still not a bad choice given the power to weight ratio compared to the other cars eligible for HS. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
What wheels and tires on the RS? How much fuel? My GS RS weighed in at 2790 with 3/4 of a tank.
[B] 3140 is the correct weight for the Legacy Turbo automatic, the manual weighs a bit less. I was a little optimistic in my previous statement. My RS weighed in at 2690 in autocross trim, I would assume with similar prep you could get the Legacy turbo just under 3000 lbs. Still not a bad choice given the power to weight ratio compared to the other cars eligible for HS. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
What wheels and tires on the RS? How much fuel? My GS RS weighed in at 2790 with 3/4 of a tank.
| lucien2 | 12-02-2003 09:39 AM |
well...
<-----This pig was the top finishing Subaru in STS at last month's autocross, and took 5th in STS out of 26 cars running. :rolleyes: :devil:
<-----This pig was the top finishing Subaru in STS at last month's autocross, and took 5th in STS out of 26 cars running. :rolleyes: :devil:
| Opie | 12-02-2003 04:39 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by adhowe70 [/i]
[B]What wheels and tires on the RS? How much fuel? My GS RS weighed in at 2790 with 3/4 of a tank. [/B][/QUOTE]
15"x6" Legacy Alloys w/ 205/50R15 Azenis, 5 lb gel cell battery, everything out of the trunk, 1/2 tank off gas and the competitive STS mods. Was weighed on the SCCA scales at the ProSolo in Ft. Myers.
[B]What wheels and tires on the RS? How much fuel? My GS RS weighed in at 2790 with 3/4 of a tank. [/B][/QUOTE]
15"x6" Legacy Alloys w/ 205/50R15 Azenis, 5 lb gel cell battery, everything out of the trunk, 1/2 tank off gas and the competitive STS mods. Was weighed on the SCCA scales at the ProSolo in Ft. Myers.
| Warp3 | 12-02-2003 06:58 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Opie [/i]
[B]5 lb gel cell battery[/B][/QUOTE]
[B]5 lbs!!![/B] :eek:
...and to think the guys in tech already gawk at the 12.5lb battery (Hawker Odyssey PC545) I have in my car! :lol:
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url]
[B]5 lb gel cell battery[/B][/QUOTE]
[B]5 lbs!!![/B] :eek:
...and to think the guys in tech already gawk at the 12.5lb battery (Hawker Odyssey PC545) I have in my car! :lol:
Shane -- [url]http://www.warpthree.com[/url]
| zzyzx | 12-02-2003 07:17 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Opie [/i]
[B]15"x6" Legacy Alloys w/ 205/50R15 Azenis, 5 lb gel cell battery, everything out of the trunk, 1/2 tank off gas and the competitive STS mods. Was weighed on the SCCA scales at the ProSolo in Ft. Myers. [/B][/QUOTE]
Which battery and how do you like it?
- Steve
[B]15"x6" Legacy Alloys w/ 205/50R15 Azenis, 5 lb gel cell battery, everything out of the trunk, 1/2 tank off gas and the competitive STS mods. Was weighed on the SCCA scales at the ProSolo in Ft. Myers. [/B][/QUOTE]
Which battery and how do you like it?
- Steve
| AUTOwrXER | 12-02-2003 09:32 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zzyzx[/i]
[B] Which battery and how do you like it?
- Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes! Do tell.
[B] Which battery and how do you like it?
- Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes! Do tell.
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