| zmw | 06-07-2002 05:41 PM |
no no no, I just generally get flamed as a whole :)... probably because I'm a jerk and don't hold back telling people what I think :)
-Z
-Z
| CTRallyRacer | 06-07-2002 10:29 PM |
Waaaa... I would love to get one in my Rex... when I get it... would the 03 Rex have one available as an option!?
Note: Why do the other markets get those killer seats and we don't?
Note: Why do the other markets get those killer seats and we don't?
| The_Triton | 06-08-2002 12:43 AM |
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[B]would you let a stranger or a dentist to pull one of your tooths out?
:cool: [/B][/QUOTE]
Of course I would. When is the last time you pulled your own teeth. Sure, the Nascar people use their own pliers :devil: But I would rather go to a professional anyday. Goto the link from ZMW, I went to the same place. Frankly, I love the feature.
Just for that :) MORE PICS
[B]would you let a stranger or a dentist to pull one of your tooths out?
:cool: [/B][/QUOTE]
Of course I would. When is the last time you pulled your own teeth. Sure, the Nascar people use their own pliers :devil: But I would rather go to a professional anyday. Goto the link from ZMW, I went to the same place. Frankly, I love the feature.
Just for that :) MORE PICS
| kenshiro | 06-13-2002 03:14 PM |
Did you guys see the wrx rollover pics from that Prelude site's thread? It looked like the bar in the roof saved his life. After seeing those pics I wouldn't want a moonroof if it cut into that.
| alphamale | 06-13-2002 03:27 PM |
rollover
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kenshiro [/i]
[B]Did you guys see the wrx rollover pics from that Prelude site's thread? It looked like the bar in the roof saved his life. After seeing those pics I wouldn't want a moonroof if it cut into that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Where are these pics you are referring to? I would like to view them if you can provide a link.
[B]Did you guys see the wrx rollover pics from that Prelude site's thread? It looked like the bar in the roof saved his life. After seeing those pics I wouldn't want a moonroof if it cut into that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Where are these pics you are referring to? I would like to view them if you can provide a link.
| TanXP | 06-13-2002 04:48 PM |
Hey does anyone know if it's ok to put in one of those rally roof vents that go along with the roof scoop. The scoop and vent are $109 each. So hey it sounds good to me, i was just wondering if it would be ok for the structural strength. The scoop isnt really big so I'm not sure how much it would affect the rigidity of the car. I hope this hasnt been asked before. And does anyone have one of these installed? if so pics please!
| In2Deep | 06-13-2002 07:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TanXP [/i]
[B]Hey does anyone know if it's ok to put in one of those rally roof vents that go along with the roof scoop. The scoop and vent are $109 each. So hey it sounds good to me, i was just wondering if it would be ok for the structural strength. The scoop isnt really big so I'm not sure how much it would affect the rigidity of the car. I hope this hasnt been asked before. And does anyone have one of these installed? if so pics please! [/B][/QUOTE]
Since it doesn't touch the structural support bars it should be fine. If you want more protection (sunroof or not) you could always have a roll bar installed. ;)
Mario
[B]Hey does anyone know if it's ok to put in one of those rally roof vents that go along with the roof scoop. The scoop and vent are $109 each. So hey it sounds good to me, i was just wondering if it would be ok for the structural strength. The scoop isnt really big so I'm not sure how much it would affect the rigidity of the car. I hope this hasnt been asked before. And does anyone have one of these installed? if so pics please! [/B][/QUOTE]
Since it doesn't touch the structural support bars it should be fine. If you want more protection (sunroof or not) you could always have a roll bar installed. ;)
Mario
| The_Triton | 11-13-2002 04:28 PM |
5 Months of driving the WRX in the twisties with the radio off and moonroof open. STILL NO REGRETS!!!!!!!!! I use it everyday. No creaks or leaks.
| The_Triton | 12-15-2003 08:34 AM |
Got some people asking about the moonroof. So Bump it is.....
Oh.........still no leaks and I use it everyday that is warm outside:)
Oh.........still no leaks and I use it everyday that is warm outside:)
| LYHTSPD | 12-15-2003 11:16 AM |
I think it is funny how everyone said that Subaru would never put a moonroof in the WRX due to the structual bar that goes across the roof... and look what is an option on the '04 model!!! I dont like how Subaru has the glass go in below the sheetmetal and above the cross-bar because it drops the headliner 2.3" lower than a standard roof. That is the only reason I did not get the Premium Package on my car. I am 6'3" and I did not fit with the roof so low!!!
I may look into an aftermarket one though... When I get some money. ;)
I may look into an aftermarket one though... When I get some money. ;)
| dbrier | 12-15-2003 12:21 PM |
I would love to see pictures with the roof liner out of a 2004 to see if there is a difference between it and a 2003. I am real familiar with the roof of the 2002-2003 wagons. :)
I want to see the body structure of a 2004 with a factory sunroof too.
I want to see the body structure of a 2004 with a factory sunroof too.
| elixirvtec | 12-15-2003 01:52 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KenG [/i]
[B]No version of the WRX (including the STI) is offered with a sun-roof, nor is it an option anywhere in Europe.
Shell strength and integrity is what it is all about, and adding the moonroof will compromise them.
Where has this idea we (non-US markets) get sun-roofs or that the STI has it (I own one and it does not) come from? Is it some urban myth amongst the US WRX community?
Ken
UK [/B][/QUOTE]
when i took my 2002 wrx in for service i looked at the 2004 models, i swear that i saw sunroof on the 2004 cars. Or was it a moonroof. hell i don't know the difference i know its a window on the roof of the car
[B]No version of the WRX (including the STI) is offered with a sun-roof, nor is it an option anywhere in Europe.
Shell strength and integrity is what it is all about, and adding the moonroof will compromise them.
Where has this idea we (non-US markets) get sun-roofs or that the STI has it (I own one and it does not) come from? Is it some urban myth amongst the US WRX community?
Ken
UK [/B][/QUOTE]
when i took my 2002 wrx in for service i looked at the 2004 models, i swear that i saw sunroof on the 2004 cars. Or was it a moonroof. hell i don't know the difference i know its a window on the roof of the car
| LYHTSPD | 12-15-2003 02:34 PM |
Dale: I would think that they share the same roof structure.
elixirvtec: The 2004s added the Premium Package which comes with a moonroof (although it is somewhat small for what you pay for it).
elixirvtec: The 2004s added the Premium Package which comes with a moonroof (although it is somewhat small for what you pay for it).
| Thumper23 | 12-15-2003 04:49 PM |
my moonroof's been in now for 1.5 years. One CO winter, now the FL rains in summer. Never once has it leaked.
| LYHTSPD | 12-15-2003 07:00 PM |
Thumper23: Do you know if they had to hack the structual beam in the roof?
| WRX03 | 12-16-2003 06:57 AM |
I have a structural fix, make some steel roof rails and weld on some steel ski racks. :lol: What's stopping us is money vs function. Looks good, I'm envious. If your ever in Indy, I would like to see up close.
| 9o7wRx7o9 | 12-16-2003 08:32 AM |
OK other then speculation is there any physical proof that removing that bar is going to compromise the structural integrity to a dangerous point? i.e. anyone hear anything from someone with one installed that rolled their car? I know here in AK of one guy that rolled his rex wagon...totalled the sucker...but it didnt have a moon/sun roof...so much for wagon satisfaction :)
| The_Triton | 12-16-2003 04:16 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 9o7wRx7o9[/i]
[B] OK other then speculation is there any physical proof that removing that bar is going to compromise the structural integrity to a dangerous point?[/B][/QUOTE]
I've never wrecked the car. But I have autoX'd and I do a fair amount of "spirited" driving up the local hill twisties....
No buckling or bowing of the hood since it was installed. No leaks. Just sheer enjoyment:D
[B] OK other then speculation is there any physical proof that removing that bar is going to compromise the structural integrity to a dangerous point?[/B][/QUOTE]
I've never wrecked the car. But I have autoX'd and I do a fair amount of "spirited" driving up the local hill twisties....
No buckling or bowing of the hood since it was installed. No leaks. Just sheer enjoyment:D
| Thumper23 | 12-16-2003 04:48 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LYHTSPD[/i]
[B] Thumper23: Do you know if they had to hack the structual beam in the roof? [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't know.
Like Triton has said, I've rally-x'd, auto-x'd, taken some very spirited drives through the CO mountains and I haven't noticed any problems.
I guess the only real way to tell if our moonroofs effect the integrity is that someone with one rolls their car. But I'm not gonna volunteer myself for that experiment.;)
[B] Thumper23: Do you know if they had to hack the structual beam in the roof? [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't know.
Like Triton has said, I've rally-x'd, auto-x'd, taken some very spirited drives through the CO mountains and I haven't noticed any problems.
I guess the only real way to tell if our moonroofs effect the integrity is that someone with one rolls their car. But I'm not gonna volunteer myself for that experiment.;)
| LYHTSPD | 12-16-2003 04:59 PM |
Thumper23: Oh come on man!!! Take one for the team!!!
| NeoteriX | 12-17-2003 05:51 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LYHTSPD[/i]
[B] I think it is funny how everyone said that Subaru would never put a moonroof in the WRX due to the structual bar that goes across the roof... and look what is an option on the '04 model!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
No it's not. From my understanfing, for the JDMs, they had a small enough moonroof that fit between the structural support, and like you said, the current one goes underneath the support. It's still there in each application, and it's still quite relevant.
[B] I think it is funny how everyone said that Subaru would never put a moonroof in the WRX due to the structual bar that goes across the roof... and look what is an option on the '04 model!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
No it's not. From my understanfing, for the JDMs, they had a small enough moonroof that fit between the structural support, and like you said, the current one goes underneath the support. It's still there in each application, and it's still quite relevant.
| LYHTSPD | 12-17-2003 07:26 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoteriX [/i]
[B]No it's not. From my understanfing, for the JDMs, they had a small enough moonroof that fit between the structural support, and like you said, the current one goes underneath the support. It's still there in each application, and it's still quite relevant. [/B][/QUOTE]
I never said that it was not relavant. I was just commenting on how a year ago everyone said that Subaru COULD not put a moonroof in due to the cross bar, and now we see them in the cars.
[B]No it's not. From my understanfing, for the JDMs, they had a small enough moonroof that fit between the structural support, and like you said, the current one goes underneath the support. It's still there in each application, and it's still quite relevant. [/B][/QUOTE]
I never said that it was not relavant. I was just commenting on how a year ago everyone said that Subaru COULD not put a moonroof in due to the cross bar, and now we see them in the cars.
| dbrier | 12-17-2003 07:31 AM |
I really want a sunroof but I am not going to cut that large beam.
The idea of a small sunroof that opens to the ouside of the car is something I am very interested in.
I talked to Zeibart about a sunroof and the guy told me it would be no problem to put one in. He could just cut the beam, they do it all the time.
:rolleyes: So much for that idea.
I need to find a good custom shop like some of the guys here have done.
The idea of a small sunroof that opens to the ouside of the car is something I am very interested in.
I talked to Zeibart about a sunroof and the guy told me it would be no problem to put one in. He could just cut the beam, they do it all the time.
:rolleyes: So much for that idea.
I need to find a good custom shop like some of the guys here have done.
| SlideWRX | 12-17-2003 09:29 AM |
So are these sunroofs/moonroofs that we are seeing ones that just pop up, or do they slide back as well? If they pop up only, then the integrity shouldn't be compimised much. If they slide back, either inside or out, they need rails that would run through the center cross rail, and that [I]would[/I] affect integrity. I wouldn't worry so much about auto/rally-x, but crashes. Here's a sedan that rolled, and you can see where the collapsing roof stopped - at the cross rail.
[IMG]http://www.99percent.com/wreck/06.jpg[/IMG]
It can be done, just be aware of the trade-offs and don't just believe the seller that 'everything's OK'.
I wouldn't be suprised if Subaru took time for the '04 to design a cross rail that could accomodate a sunroof, without loosing much crashworthyness.
Tom
[IMG]http://www.99percent.com/wreck/06.jpg[/IMG]
It can be done, just be aware of the trade-offs and don't just believe the seller that 'everything's OK'.
I wouldn't be suprised if Subaru took time for the '04 to design a cross rail that could accomodate a sunroof, without loosing much crashworthyness.
Tom
| dbrier | 12-17-2003 01:03 PM |
:eek:
That picture should make a believer out everyone.
I think most of the 02-03 installs I have seen on this board slide back inside the roof.
That picture should make a believer out everyone.
I think most of the 02-03 installs I have seen on this board slide back inside the roof.
| LYHTSPD | 12-17-2003 01:29 PM |
I would rather have one that goes above the roof. That way it should not drop the headliner in my car. I can barley get a helmet on for autox the way it is!! :lol:
| Eggas | 12-22-2003 09:19 PM |
Could the dearler install a sunroof in a my03?
| reno_bk | 12-23-2003 11:35 AM |
For all the earlier posts implying that the USDM Impreza's roof is somehow different enough to not allow a factory sunroof, I'd like to add that the upcoming Saab 9-2x has a sunroof optional. Since the 9-2x is identical to the WRX/TS wagons in every way except trim, I'd guess that adding a roof is not going to kill the structure of that car. From the looks of the Saab's sunroof, it's the same size as the OEM sunroof in teh WRX sedan for 2004.
B
B
| 02R6 | 12-24-2003 02:24 AM |
Better late than never...
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| 02R6 | 12-24-2003 02:25 AM |
still more...
Fully tilted:
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Partially tilted:
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Partially tilted:
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| 02R6 | 12-24-2003 02:25 AM |
I got the roof installed back in June and it's been great so far; no leaks, no defects, no nothing. I use it every chance I get. There's a bit of wind noise at speeds above 75mph (getting really bad above 100mph) but if you close the shade, you can't hear anything.
It sounds like I have the same roof as the original thread poster. Webasto-Hollandia, one-touch open/close, auto (if you want) close, two presets, new headliner, $1100, etc.
I enjoy "spirited" driving as often as possible and have not noticed a difference in the way the car behaves from before and after the install. I will be participating in a trackday/weekend in April as well as some Auto-X events this coming season and will probably find any ill-effects then.
Sorry for jumping on the bandwagon a little late but, I didn't see anybody post some up close pictures. Hope this helps anyone decide.
It sounds like I have the same roof as the original thread poster. Webasto-Hollandia, one-touch open/close, auto (if you want) close, two presets, new headliner, $1100, etc.
I enjoy "spirited" driving as often as possible and have not noticed a difference in the way the car behaves from before and after the install. I will be participating in a trackday/weekend in April as well as some Auto-X events this coming season and will probably find any ill-effects then.
Sorry for jumping on the bandwagon a little late but, I didn't see anybody post some up close pictures. Hope this helps anyone decide.
| LYHTSPD | 12-24-2003 12:41 PM |
02R6: looks nice man. Do you know if the installers had to cut the roof beam? I think that is one of the big things on everyone's mind...
Also, did it lower the headliner at all?
Also, did it lower the headliner at all?
| 02R6 | 12-24-2003 04:05 PM |
LYHTSPD,
To be honest, I didn't ask if they cut the beam that's on everyone's mind. I'll call and ask here in a couple of days.
As far as how much lower the headliner is, couldn't tell you. For what it's worth, I'm 6'0," keep the stock seat slid as far back as possible, reclined in a fairly upright position (although my Dad disagrees), set on its lowest, height adjustable setting (I think), and have about an inch of clearance between the top my Arai RX7-RR3 and the headliner. The B-pillar and hand grip might be a slight issue, depending on the corner, but nothing to get in a fuss about.
To be honest, I didn't ask if they cut the beam that's on everyone's mind. I'll call and ask here in a couple of days.
As far as how much lower the headliner is, couldn't tell you. For what it's worth, I'm 6'0," keep the stock seat slid as far back as possible, reclined in a fairly upright position (although my Dad disagrees), set on its lowest, height adjustable setting (I think), and have about an inch of clearance between the top my Arai RX7-RR3 and the headliner. The B-pillar and hand grip might be a slight issue, depending on the corner, but nothing to get in a fuss about.
| idealrides | 12-24-2003 06:24 PM |
To everyone who wants a sunroof: do NOT get one made by "ASC" ... they are crap and the one I had installed in my truck 4 years ago still leaks to this day. As if thats not bad enough, sometimes it jams halfway shut.
A friend of mine has the factory moonroof in his euro-spec 02 WRX. If anyone wants me to, I can measure it and take pictures.
A friend of mine has the factory moonroof in his euro-spec 02 WRX. If anyone wants me to, I can measure it and take pictures.
| MK19 | 12-30-2003 01:35 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KenG [/i]
[B]No version of the WRX (including the STI) is offered with a sun-roof, nor is it an option anywhere in Europe.
Shell strength and integrity is what it is all about, and adding the moonroof will compromise them.
Where has this idea we (non-US markets) get sun-roofs or that the STI has it (I own one and it does not) come from? Is it some urban myth amongst the US WRX community?
Ken
UK [/B][/QUOTE]
Subaru put one in the 2001 GGB (aka STi wagon baby!!!)
[B]No version of the WRX (including the STI) is offered with a sun-roof, nor is it an option anywhere in Europe.
Shell strength and integrity is what it is all about, and adding the moonroof will compromise them.
Where has this idea we (non-US markets) get sun-roofs or that the STI has it (I own one and it does not) come from? Is it some urban myth amongst the US WRX community?
Ken
UK [/B][/QUOTE]
Subaru put one in the 2001 GGB (aka STi wagon baby!!!)
| scubette97 | 12-31-2003 02:42 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SlideWRX [/i]
[B] Here's a sedan that rolled, and you can see where the collapsing roof stopped - at the cross rail.
[IMG]http://www.99percent.com/wreck/06.jpg[/IMG]
It can be done, just be aware of the trade-offs and don't just believe the seller that 'everything's OK'.
I wouldn't be suprised if Subaru took time for the '04 to design a cross rail that could accomodate a sunroof, without loosing much crashworthyness.
Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
A bit confused: why would the beam have been removed? Im guessing this isnt a subaru. Maybe a little more clarification on this pic for me the knowledge inept.
[B] Here's a sedan that rolled, and you can see where the collapsing roof stopped - at the cross rail.
[IMG]http://www.99percent.com/wreck/06.jpg[/IMG]
It can be done, just be aware of the trade-offs and don't just believe the seller that 'everything's OK'.
I wouldn't be suprised if Subaru took time for the '04 to design a cross rail that could accomodate a sunroof, without loosing much crashworthyness.
Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
A bit confused: why would the beam have been removed? Im guessing this isnt a subaru. Maybe a little more clarification on this pic for me the knowledge inept.
| The_Triton | 09-19-2005 02:52 PM |
still lovin' the moonroof :D
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