| KC | 09-12-2006 10:01 AM |
Well don't give up the fight. :)
Good luck!
--kC
Good luck!
--kC
| thrdeye | 09-12-2006 10:08 AM |
Some of the vets in ETR were telling me about the crappy gas in MO and KS. is there going to be some good gas available on site? I know there's a Sunoco pump there, but can we run that in ST*
I guess it would be simpler to bring 5-10 gals with us.
I guess it would be simpler to bring 5-10 gals with us.
| KC | 09-12-2006 10:15 AM |
[QUOTE=thrdeye;15214948]Some of the vets in ETR were telling me about the crappy gas in MO and KS. is there going to be some good gas available on site? I know there's a Sunoco pump there, but can we run that in ST*
I guess it would be simpler to bring 5-10 gals with us.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/211321.aspx[/url]
--kC
I guess it would be simpler to bring 5-10 gals with us.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/211321.aspx[/url]
--kC
| jcroy66 | 09-12-2006 10:16 AM |
As I recall, there is at least one pump with Sunoco 100 that is approved for use in stock (and ST*). That's what we used 2 years ago when we drove out there. Mixed it about half and half with the crappy gas to try to approximate what the computer was used to. It's pricey though. At that time, it was around $5 a gallon IIRC and I heard it's around $7/gallon now. Andy Hollis also saw in the Runoffs supps that the track will be selling Sunoco 93 for the SS* classes. So that might be available as well, although none of us have ever seen Sunoco 93 pumps in prior years.
But yes, IMO, it's easier to bring 10 gallons with you.
Edit: KC is faster than Jen once again. Must be why KC is a Class WinnAr and Jen is completely trophyless in 2 appearances at Nationals.
But yes, IMO, it's easier to bring 10 gallons with you.
Edit: KC is faster than Jen once again. Must be why KC is a Class WinnAr and Jen is completely trophyless in 2 appearances at Nationals.
| thrdeye | 09-12-2006 10:26 AM |
thanks kc. i'll keep an eye on it.
| ratt_finkel | 09-12-2006 10:31 AM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66;15214826]:p :lol: Actually, it's just realistic. I personally think I'm faster this year than I've ever been. For the most part this season, I've actually been able to pull my head out of my *** and DRIVE. I think any given event, I can probably beat one or more of the top drivers in STX. So do I think I had a good chance at trophying? Yes, actually I do. My times have been really close lately to Phil's, McCance's, etc. But win? Hmm, well let me put it this way, the Pick the Winners contest isn't like horse track betting - you don't get more points for picking the long shot. :) And IMO, I'm definitely the long shot. I'd pick a lot of people before I even THOUGHT about me - Billy, Josh, Fitzpatrick, Courtney, Phil, McCance. Jason beats me more often than not, especially recently. Even though my driving stepped up a huge notch this year, Jason has REALLY stepped it up IMO. I'd take Chang and Randy instead of me too. (Sorry West Coast folks, I haven't seen most of you drive, so I just have no comparison.) So, KC, can I stop yet? I'm starting to get an inferiority complex here. ;)
Nope, car's fine. Car's running great, actually.
Finances just took a rather unexpected turn for the worst. Mortgage still has to be paid, and food still has to go on the table. So anything non-essential gets cut. And $350 in National entry fees (and waiver fees), $230 in ProFinale entry fees, and $400 in gas is tops on the list. As far as I could tell, that was basically the bare minimum. Even if we didn't eat out at all, just munched on the free dinners. Even if we skipped the hotel and camped. Still couldn't get around the entry fees and gas. We could save a little $ on gas by driving out there and not towing, but not enough of a difference, especially since the car ran like total crap on that stuff they pass off as gasoline in Missouri and Kansas (and that was with the stock ECU, BEFORE we were tuned for the Sunoco 94 that we always use in it). I even considered just doing the Finale and not Nationals (or vice versa) to save on entry fees, but decided at that point, it isn't worth the trip. So the tires that are already bought go into plastic bags and saved for next year. Phil and I will miss you all, but them's the breaks sometimes. :( But next year you boys better watch out, cuz I'm a comin' for ya! :D
Oh wait, I think Jason said he was going to tell you guys that the reason we weren't going to be there was that Phil broke his foot fighting a bear. So yeah, that's it, forget everything I just said. It was a bear! :D :lol:
Oh yeah, while I'm thinking about it, we had a non-smoking room reserved at the Super 8 for Thursday the 21st through Friday the 29th. I think it was a king room for $72/night. Anyone want it? If so, contact me via PM, and I'll coordinate with the Super 8. If I don't hear anything within the next day, I'm just going to cancel the reservation.[/QUOTE]
Hey Jen, I don't have any spare cash laying around. But I'd be willing to lend both you and Phil my RS. I'll be driving it up there anyway. And I can latch on the race tires if you guys need a car. And you can throw crappy 87 octane in it! :lol:
Nope, car's fine. Car's running great, actually.
Finances just took a rather unexpected turn for the worst. Mortgage still has to be paid, and food still has to go on the table. So anything non-essential gets cut. And $350 in National entry fees (and waiver fees), $230 in ProFinale entry fees, and $400 in gas is tops on the list. As far as I could tell, that was basically the bare minimum. Even if we didn't eat out at all, just munched on the free dinners. Even if we skipped the hotel and camped. Still couldn't get around the entry fees and gas. We could save a little $ on gas by driving out there and not towing, but not enough of a difference, especially since the car ran like total crap on that stuff they pass off as gasoline in Missouri and Kansas (and that was with the stock ECU, BEFORE we were tuned for the Sunoco 94 that we always use in it). I even considered just doing the Finale and not Nationals (or vice versa) to save on entry fees, but decided at that point, it isn't worth the trip. So the tires that are already bought go into plastic bags and saved for next year. Phil and I will miss you all, but them's the breaks sometimes. :( But next year you boys better watch out, cuz I'm a comin' for ya! :D
Oh wait, I think Jason said he was going to tell you guys that the reason we weren't going to be there was that Phil broke his foot fighting a bear. So yeah, that's it, forget everything I just said. It was a bear! :D :lol:
Oh yeah, while I'm thinking about it, we had a non-smoking room reserved at the Super 8 for Thursday the 21st through Friday the 29th. I think it was a king room for $72/night. Anyone want it? If so, contact me via PM, and I'll coordinate with the Super 8. If I don't hear anything within the next day, I'm just going to cancel the reservation.[/QUOTE]
Hey Jen, I don't have any spare cash laying around. But I'd be willing to lend both you and Phil my RS. I'll be driving it up there anyway. And I can latch on the race tires if you guys need a car. And you can throw crappy 87 octane in it! :lol:
| ratt_finkel | 09-12-2006 10:33 AM |
[QUOTE=thrdeye;15215159]thanks kc. i'll keep an eye on it.[/QUOTE]
And which eye would that be? Your third eye?
And which eye would that be? Your third eye?
| Mhyrr | 09-12-2006 10:44 AM |
Sad to hear you and Phil won't be there Jen.. catch ya next year!! (Although maybe not in the same class..)
| CamaroFS34 | 09-12-2006 01:40 PM |
:( Awwww, Jen! That's too bad, though I totally understand. We're gonna miss you guys, especially at the afterhours entertainment facilities.... And who's gonna make sure Billy drinks for his conage?
Next year, girl... next year....
Karen
Next year, girl... next year....
Karen
| makofoto | 09-12-2006 01:42 PM |
What's this about the "town hall" SCCA meeting @ Nationals ... where the STU competitors can press their point about becoming a National Class ... I guess it's not "automatic."
| jcroy66 | 09-12-2006 02:20 PM |
[quote=CamaroFS34;15217946]And who's gonna make sure Billy drinks for his conage?[/quote]Well, I will just have to leave that in your capable hands, I guess. :D I'm sure Jason, Brad, and Angie will all help! :) And if Maria is able to attend, I'm QUITE sure she will help!! :D I seem to recall many comments directed Billy's way along the lines of "You'll drink with everyone else, but you won't drink with ME on my 21st birthday?!?!?" :lol:
| KC | 09-12-2006 02:30 PM |
[QUOTE=makofoto;15217989]What's this about the "town hall" SCCA meeting @ Nationals ... where the STU competitors can press their point about becoming a National Class ... I guess it's not "automatic."[/QUOTE]
Nothing is automatic when it comes to accepting national classes. Go there, make your voices heard with reasonable reasons why they should become a national class.
--kC
Nothing is automatic when it comes to accepting national classes. Go there, make your voices heard with reasonable reasons why they should become a national class.
--kC
| RacerMike | 09-12-2006 05:20 PM |
[QUOTE=KC;15218840]Nothing is automatic when it comes to accepting national classes. Go there, make your voices heard with reasonable reasons why they should become a national class.
--kC[/QUOTE]
I think 50+ competitors is a pretty reasonable reason, but will they? :confused:
Mike
--kC[/QUOTE]
I think 50+ competitors is a pretty reasonable reason, but will they? :confused:
Mike
| thrdeye | 09-12-2006 05:22 PM |
[QUOTE=RacerMike;15221612]I think 50+ competitors is a pretty reasonable reason, but will they? :confused:
Mike[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't understand why they can't go ahead and grant the National Status.
If only 50% of the people that are there this year come next year, that's still 25+
I think the addition of the 350Z would also help the class.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't understand why they can't go ahead and grant the National Status.
If only 50% of the people that are there this year come next year, that's still 25+
I think the addition of the 350Z would also help the class.
| Imprezivblue | 09-12-2006 06:22 PM |
Run/work orders are posted on scca.com. I copied them here. I hope they're right but it's worth double checking scca's website as well.
[B]Tues/West - Wed/East[/B]
Heat Run
1 BSP, ESP, ASPL, DSL
2 BS, EM, SML, FML
3 DS, GP, BSPL, ESPL, DML
4 ASP, SM, BSL, EML
5 DM, FM, GPL
Heat Work
1 DS*, SM*, GP, BSL, DML, EML
2 SM*, ASP, DM, GPL
3 ESP*, FM, ASPL
4 ESP*, BSP, DSL, FML
5 DS*, BS, EM, BSPL, ESPL, SML
[B]Tues/East - Wed/West[/B]
Heat Run
1 FS, DP, F125
2 STU, ASL, STXL, BPL
3 GS, XP, FSL, F125L
4 STX, BP, STUL, DPL
5 AS, GSL, XPL
Heat Work
1 STX*, BP*, GS, XP, STUL
2 STX*, BP*, GSL, XPL, DPL
3 AS, DP
4 FS, F125, ASL
5 STU, FSL, STXL, BPL, F125L
[B]Thur/West - Fri/East[/B]
Heat Run
1 CSP, BM, CSL, ESL
2 FSP, FP, CPL, EPL
3 CS, AM, CSPL, BML
4 ES, EP
5 CP, FSPL, AML, FPL
Heat Work
1 CS*, EP, AM
2 CP*, ES, AML
3 CP*, BM*, ESL, FSPL, FPL
4 BM*, FSP, FP, CSL, CPL
5 CS*, CSP, CSPL, EPL, BML
[B]Thur/East - Fri/West[/B]
Heat Run
1 HS, CM, STS2L, FSAEL
2 STS, DSPL, SM2L
3 STS2, FSAE, SSL, CML
4 DSP, SM2, HSL, STSL
5 SS
Heat Work
1 DSP*, FSAE*, SM2, SSL, STSL
2 SS*, DSP*, HSL
3 SS*, HS
4 STS*, CM, STS2L, FSAEL
5 STS* FSAE*,STS2,DSPL,SM2L,CML
* Workers from these classes are divided across two heats; those with Ladies class co-drivers will not be assigned to the Ladies heat.
[B]Tues/West - Wed/East[/B]
Heat Run
1 BSP, ESP, ASPL, DSL
2 BS, EM, SML, FML
3 DS, GP, BSPL, ESPL, DML
4 ASP, SM, BSL, EML
5 DM, FM, GPL
Heat Work
1 DS*, SM*, GP, BSL, DML, EML
2 SM*, ASP, DM, GPL
3 ESP*, FM, ASPL
4 ESP*, BSP, DSL, FML
5 DS*, BS, EM, BSPL, ESPL, SML
[B]Tues/East - Wed/West[/B]
Heat Run
1 FS, DP, F125
2 STU, ASL, STXL, BPL
3 GS, XP, FSL, F125L
4 STX, BP, STUL, DPL
5 AS, GSL, XPL
Heat Work
1 STX*, BP*, GS, XP, STUL
2 STX*, BP*, GSL, XPL, DPL
3 AS, DP
4 FS, F125, ASL
5 STU, FSL, STXL, BPL, F125L
[B]Thur/West - Fri/East[/B]
Heat Run
1 CSP, BM, CSL, ESL
2 FSP, FP, CPL, EPL
3 CS, AM, CSPL, BML
4 ES, EP
5 CP, FSPL, AML, FPL
Heat Work
1 CS*, EP, AM
2 CP*, ES, AML
3 CP*, BM*, ESL, FSPL, FPL
4 BM*, FSP, FP, CSL, CPL
5 CS*, CSP, CSPL, EPL, BML
[B]Thur/East - Fri/West[/B]
Heat Run
1 HS, CM, STS2L, FSAEL
2 STS, DSPL, SM2L
3 STS2, FSAE, SSL, CML
4 DSP, SM2, HSL, STSL
5 SS
Heat Work
1 DSP*, FSAE*, SM2, SSL, STSL
2 SS*, DSP*, HSL
3 SS*, HS
4 STS*, CM, STS2L, FSAEL
5 STS* FSAE*,STS2,DSPL,SM2L,CML
* Workers from these classes are divided across two heats; those with Ladies class co-drivers will not be assigned to the Ladies heat.
| 10th Warrior | 09-12-2006 06:44 PM |
ugh, running 1st heat. you'd think I was back in GS or something. Better go read the AWD drifting thread :lol:
| CamaroFS34 | 09-12-2006 06:48 PM |
Join the club. And my rain tires are a shared expense with an ESP driver, so I am really, really, really praying it's dry. Otherwise, I may as well stay home. Two rain tires are just as bad as none. :(
Karen
Karen
| jbrennen | 09-12-2006 07:01 PM |
[QUOTE=CamaroFS34;15222654]Two rain tires are just as bad as none. :([/QUOTE]
Put the two rain tires on the left side of the car and lean against the driver's door REALLY REALLY HARD while driving.
Put the two rain tires on the left side of the car and lean against the driver's door REALLY REALLY HARD while driving.
| ChrisDP | 09-12-2006 09:16 PM |
Everybody on the LEFT SIDE OF THE BUS!!!
| solo-x | 09-12-2006 09:37 PM |
bloody hell! CM runs in first heat? um, can we say, SLICKS!!!!! :mad: :furious: : pissed as hell:
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z!
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z!
| 10th Warrior | 09-12-2006 09:44 PM |
[QUOTE=solo-x;15223773]bloody hell! CM runs in first heat? um, can we say, SLICKS!!!!! :mad: :furious: : pissed as hell:
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z![/QUOTE]
Nothing says JDM sw33t like a Formula Ford :D
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z![/QUOTE]
Nothing says JDM sw33t like a Formula Ford :D
| KC | 09-12-2006 09:55 PM |
[QUOTE=solo-x;15223773]bloody hell! CM runs in first heat? um, can we say, SLICKS!!!!! :mad: :furious: : pissed as hell:
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z![/QUOTE]
At least you get to watch the DSP battle and some fun with SM2...
I get to watch DM/FM.... packs ear plugs.
--kC
oh well, at least i'm first driver. look for my mad d0r1ft0 sk1||z![/QUOTE]
At least you get to watch the DSP battle and some fun with SM2...
I get to watch DM/FM.... packs ear plugs.
--kC
| solo-x | 09-12-2006 10:09 PM |
here's to hoping you can actually see people as they run. might want to pack binnaculars instead of earplugs!
| solo-x | 09-12-2006 10:24 PM |
i AM exaggerating. i'm not really pissed. i do wish i were second driver though.... running in first heat in a car that relies so heavily on its tires is interesting. unlike ST where the car struggles to work around/within the limitations of the tires, in CM, the car just doesn't work if the tires are cold but becomes a dream once they warm up. ever wonder why everyone hates to see a slick shod car make it past the first rounds at a pro solo? gary godula was several seconds slower per course at the Peru Pro this year on cold tires vs. warm.
anyway, if anyone wants to stop by our grid space before the heat starts and sit on, fart on, breath on, crawl into a sleeping bag naked (with the tires dummy!), or do anything else with our tires that might put even one degree of heat in them, feel free. i just ask that it is nothing too smelly or potential for disqualification.
nate - will be hugging one tire while waiting to strap in
ps. so whats the over under for dq's for tire warm ups/speeding during the 1/4 mile drive to the courses?
anyway, if anyone wants to stop by our grid space before the heat starts and sit on, fart on, breath on, crawl into a sleeping bag naked (with the tires dummy!), or do anything else with our tires that might put even one degree of heat in them, feel free. i just ask that it is nothing too smelly or potential for disqualification.
nate - will be hugging one tire while waiting to strap in
ps. so whats the over under for dq's for tire warm ups/speeding during the 1/4 mile drive to the courses?
| pleiades | 09-12-2006 10:40 PM |
If anyone is looking for a set of Yoko's (Neova), we've got a set of 245/40/17's for sale and can deliver anywhere between Charlotte, NC and Topeka! They have a whole 20 runs on them. $700. :) Email please: [email][email�protected][/email]
(Continental FTW)
(Continental FTW)
| alltracin | 09-12-2006 10:51 PM |
Oh my! How does splitting classes up work?? I think that incredibly rediculous! What happens if it rains for one half and not the other??? :huh: I don't even know whether to hope for the early run group or late....early I actually remember my lines through the course late I can watch people who actually know how to drive all day :lol:
| ChrisDP | 09-12-2006 11:01 PM |
I think that means they are splitting workers FROM those classes... ie big classes might supply more workers than they need for 1 heat. Possibly?
| alltracin | 09-12-2006 11:17 PM |
Ohhhh good call misread on my part! 3rd run group both days ftw! :)
| adhowe70 | 09-13-2006 01:10 AM |
:lol: at alltracin.
| alltracin | 09-13-2006 04:34 AM |
:p ...
| Silencer | 09-13-2006 10:55 AM |
BSP running 1st as a course cleaner, that should be interesting.:(
Dave
Dave
| ratt_finkel | 09-13-2006 11:38 AM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior;15222611]ugh, running 1st heat. you'd think I was back in GS or something. Better go read the AWD drifting thread :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol:
[QUOTE=solo-x;15224380]i AM exaggerating. i'm not really pissed. i do wish i were second driver though.... running in first heat in a car that relies so heavily on its tires is interesting. unlike ST where the car struggles to work around/within the limitations of the tires, in CM, the car just doesn't work if the tires are cold but becomes a dream once they warm up. ever wonder why everyone hates to see a slick shod car make it past the first rounds at a pro solo? gary godula was several seconds slower per course at the Peru Pro this year on cold tires vs. warm.
anyway, if anyone wants to stop by our grid space before the heat starts and sit on, fart on, breath on, crawl into a sleeping bag naked (with the tires dummy!), or do anything else with our tires that might put even one degree of heat in them, feel free. i just ask that it is nothing too smelly or potential for disqualification.
nate - will be hugging one tire while waiting to strap in
ps. so whats the over under for dq's for tire warm ups/speeding during the 1/4 mile drive to the courses?[/QUOTE]
I'd be happy to jump in the sack with your tires!:lol:
:lol:
[QUOTE=solo-x;15224380]i AM exaggerating. i'm not really pissed. i do wish i were second driver though.... running in first heat in a car that relies so heavily on its tires is interesting. unlike ST where the car struggles to work around/within the limitations of the tires, in CM, the car just doesn't work if the tires are cold but becomes a dream once they warm up. ever wonder why everyone hates to see a slick shod car make it past the first rounds at a pro solo? gary godula was several seconds slower per course at the Peru Pro this year on cold tires vs. warm.
anyway, if anyone wants to stop by our grid space before the heat starts and sit on, fart on, breath on, crawl into a sleeping bag naked (with the tires dummy!), or do anything else with our tires that might put even one degree of heat in them, feel free. i just ask that it is nothing too smelly or potential for disqualification.
nate - will be hugging one tire while waiting to strap in
ps. so whats the over under for dq's for tire warm ups/speeding during the 1/4 mile drive to the courses?[/QUOTE]
I'd be happy to jump in the sack with your tires!:lol:
| AndrewSS | 09-13-2006 11:45 AM |
[QUOTE=pleiades;15224577]If anyone is looking for a set of Yoko's (Neova), we've got a set of 245/40/17's for sale and can deliver anywhere between Charlotte, NC and Topeka! They have a whole 20 runs on them. $700. :) Email please: [email][email�protected][/email]
(Continental FTW)[/QUOTE]
Not a bad deal, I would jump on em to have another set for when I wear out the ones on my car now, but I dont think I can justify the $$$ at this time.
(Continental FTW)[/QUOTE]
Not a bad deal, I would jump on em to have another set for when I wear out the ones on my car now, but I dont think I can justify the $$$ at this time.
| TyrannoSullyRex | 09-13-2006 12:25 PM |
I'm not about to read all 350+ posts, so not sure if this has been posted yet. Be sure to check out the supplemental regulations, some highlights:
$50 utility vehicle fee (any motorized vehicle like sccoters and whatnot)
$150/week for motorhome parking
Beer served during the competition to non-participants
Golf cart rentals are handled by HPT at a substantial increase over previous years.
$50 utility vehicle fee (any motorized vehicle like sccoters and whatnot)
$150/week for motorhome parking
Beer served during the competition to non-participants
Golf cart rentals are handled by HPT at a substantial increase over previous years.
| Patrick L | 09-13-2006 01:26 PM |
Better pack your tire blankets Jeff! LOL
I was thinking about the one I have but now that I see I am running 4th heat. All is good. I just don't want to see a 4th year in a row in the wet in the first day of competition. Last year was the worst.
I was thinking about the one I have but now that I see I am running 4th heat. All is good. I just don't want to see a 4th year in a row in the wet in the first day of competition. Last year was the worst.
| jcroy66 | 09-13-2006 01:40 PM |
[quote=ratt_finkel;15215235]Hey Jen, I don't have any spare cash laying around. But I'd be willing to lend both you and Phil my RS. I'll be driving it up there anyway. And I can latch on the race tires if you guys need a car. And you can throw crappy 87 octane in it! :lol:[/quote]
Hehe. Thank you so much for the offer Jeremy! :) But we'll sit this one out and see you guys next year.
Hehe. Thank you so much for the offer Jeremy! :) But we'll sit this one out and see you guys next year.
| PKer | 09-13-2006 02:57 PM |
Bummer Jen and Phil, Shauna and I were looking forward to meeting another couple married to STX...I mean each other.
| 10th Warrior | 09-13-2006 03:10 PM |
[QUOTE=Top_Dog;15231475]Better pack your tire blankets Jeff! LOL
I was thinking about the one I have but now that I see I am running 4th heat. All is good. I just don't want to see a 4th year in a row in the wet in the first day of competition. Last year was the worst.[/QUOTE]
maybe we can just put hot water in the sprayer for a change :)
I too really hope to have an all dry event for a change, though at least this year we'll have rain tires mounted on wheels that fit the car :)
I was thinking about the one I have but now that I see I am running 4th heat. All is good. I just don't want to see a 4th year in a row in the wet in the first day of competition. Last year was the worst.[/QUOTE]
maybe we can just put hot water in the sprayer for a change :)
I too really hope to have an all dry event for a change, though at least this year we'll have rain tires mounted on wheels that fit the car :)
| DrBiggly | 09-13-2006 03:42 PM |
[QUOTE=PKer;15232939]Bummer Jen and Phil, Shauna and I were looking forward to meeting another couple married to STX...I mean each other.[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
-Biggly
:lol: :lol:
-Biggly
| crystalhelix | 09-13-2006 04:20 PM |
[QUOTE=Silencer;15229094]BSP running 1st as a course cleaner, that should be interesting.:(
Dave[/QUOTE]
It sucks man. 1st time at Nationals and I have to go at the ass crack of dawn on a dirty course, lol.....should be good times with good people, none the less..woot:banana:
Dave[/QUOTE]
It sucks man. 1st time at Nationals and I have to go at the ass crack of dawn on a dirty course, lol.....should be good times with good people, none the less..woot:banana:
| BlkWRXWag | 09-13-2006 04:24 PM |
[QUOTE=crystalhelix;15234388]It sucks man. 1st time at Nationals and I have to go at the ass crack of dawn on a dirty course, lol.....should be good times with good people, none the less..woot:banana:[/QUOTE]
I would think that would be an advantage for the AWD cars in BSP. The slippier the better:D
I would think that would be an advantage for the AWD cars in BSP. The slippier the better:D
| jcroy66 | 09-13-2006 04:58 PM |
[quote=PKer;15232939]Bummer Jen and Phil, Shauna and I were looking forward to meeting another couple married to STX...I mean each other.[/quote]Thanks. :) Heck, I was looking forward to meeting another girl with my name. :)
Shawna Jennifer Croy
Shawna Jennifer Croy
| Patrick L | 09-13-2006 05:29 PM |
[QUOTE=crystalhelix;15234388]It sucks man. 1st time at Nationals and I have to go at the ass crack of dawn on a dirty course, lol.....should be good times with good people, none the less..woot:banana:[/QUOTE]
Say No to Ass Crack.....of dawn.:lol:
Say No to Ass Crack.....of dawn.:lol:
| Imprezivblue | 09-13-2006 05:49 PM |
[QUOTE=crystalhelix;15234388]It sucks man. 1st time at Nationals and I have to go at the ass crack of dawn on a dirty course, lol.....should be good times with good people, none the less..woot:banana:[/QUOTE]
If you are able to open your eyes anything more than a little bit that morning, you obviously didn't have enough fun the night before! :banana: Hopefull you won't even notice the dirty course!
If you are able to open your eyes anything more than a little bit that morning, you obviously didn't have enough fun the night before! :banana: Hopefull you won't even notice the dirty course!
| AUTOwrXER | 09-13-2006 06:16 PM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;15234476]I would think that would be an advantage for the AWD cars in BSP. The slippier the better:D[/QUOTE]
Exactly. On a cold, dusty course, it must really suck not to have AWD. I can't wait to hear all the "Rally Cars to ASP" talk again... :rolleyes:
Exactly. On a cold, dusty course, it must really suck not to have AWD. I can't wait to hear all the "Rally Cars to ASP" talk again... :rolleyes:
| CamaroFS34 | 09-13-2006 07:04 PM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER;15235974]Exactly. On a cold, dusty course, it must really suck not to have AWD. I can't wait to hear all the "Rally Cars to ASP" talk again... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I thought that was the real reason for the motor build... to take on the C5s, Porsches and Ferraris in ASP!! :lol:
Mornings suck. Early mornings suck worse. Speaking of which, you ProSoloists did hear that our promised late Friday morning start with a limited number of free practice starts has been replaced with a "normal" 8AM start, right?
No, I'm not kidding. I wish I was.
Karen
I thought that was the real reason for the motor build... to take on the C5s, Porsches and Ferraris in ASP!! :lol:
Mornings suck. Early mornings suck worse. Speaking of which, you ProSoloists did hear that our promised late Friday morning start with a limited number of free practice starts has been replaced with a "normal" 8AM start, right?
No, I'm not kidding. I wish I was.
Karen
| motoring | 09-13-2006 07:10 PM |
There is nothing normal about an 8 am start. We normally start at 9 on the first day.
| adhowe70 | 09-13-2006 07:45 PM |
Keith, Nationals has started at 8am every day I've been there, on T,W,R and F. 8am is a normal start. And, on topic, the one ProFinale I did started at 8am also.
| JerryLamb | 09-13-2006 10:53 PM |
Andy, the ProSolo is starting at 8:00 instead of the normal 9:00. They previously published 10:30. On the other hand no-one should be too surprised, we would never be able to finish 275 cars if we started that late, unless the timing equipment worked correctly ;).
| adhowe70 | 09-14-2006 12:50 AM |
I could swear that in '03, the ProFinale started at 8am on both days. I remember I couldn't see anything because of the sun being so low on the horizon.
| KC | 09-14-2006 07:53 AM |
[QUOTE=adhowe70;15240070]I could swear that in '03, the ProFinale started at 8am on both days. I remember I couldn't see anything because of the sun being so low on the horizon.[/QUOTE] 1st car off last year was scheduled for 8AM according to: [url]http://www.scca.com/Event/Event.asp?Ref=05-ps-finale[/url]
And it generally has been 8am all along. So Andy... you got it right. :)
However,[QUOTE=JerryLamb;15238918]Andy, the ProSolo is starting at 8:00 instead of the normal 9:00. They previously published 10:30. On the other hand no-one should be too surprised, we would never be able to finish 275 cars if we started that late, unless the timing equipment worked correctly ;).[/QUOTE]It was published all up until last week (or early this week) that the ProFinale will be starting at 10:30 with early morning practice starts. That was renegged with an 'oops, sorry' from SCCA.
--kC
And it generally has been 8am all along. So Andy... you got it right. :)
However,[QUOTE=JerryLamb;15238918]Andy, the ProSolo is starting at 8:00 instead of the normal 9:00. They previously published 10:30. On the other hand no-one should be too surprised, we would never be able to finish 275 cars if we started that late, unless the timing equipment worked correctly ;).[/QUOTE]It was published all up until last week (or early this week) that the ProFinale will be starting at 10:30 with early morning practice starts. That was renegged with an 'oops, sorry' from SCCA.
--kC
| CamaroFS34 | 09-14-2006 08:46 AM |
[QUOTE=KC;15241523]However,It was published all up until last week (or early this week) that the ProFinale will be starting at 10:30 with early morning practice starts. That was renegged with an 'oops, sorry' from SCCA.[/QUOTE]
That should have been an "oops, you're screwed" from SCCA. I was initially going to get a flight in on early Friday morning because I teach on Thursday nights, and it's a pain to get a sub. If I'd done that, I would have been f--ked.
The jerking around gets old. [i]Real[/i] old.
Karen
That should have been an "oops, you're screwed" from SCCA. I was initially going to get a flight in on early Friday morning because I teach on Thursday nights, and it's a pain to get a sub. If I'd done that, I would have been f--ked.
The jerking around gets old. [i]Real[/i] old.
Karen
| KC | 09-14-2006 09:22 AM |
[QUOTE=CamaroFS34;15241855]That should have been an "oops, you're screwed" from SCCA. I was initially going to get a flight in on early Friday morning because I teach on Thursday nights, and it's a pain to get a sub. If I'd done that, I would have been f--ked.
The jerking around gets old. [i]Real[/i] old.
Karen[/QUOTE]
It doesn't personally effect me, so I put in a "PC" quote. If it did effect me, I would have put something very different... trust me. The SCCA doesn't understand that people have to make plans months out for these things and by changing something like this make it look more and more like a monkey show...
[Rant ON]And I'm willing to bet I know who made the decision to a "T". This person has been F&^%ing the ProSolo program up for the past few years.... one of the big reasons why my interests have wained in it recently.
Get someone in charge for the ProSolo program, someone WITH a backbone that sticks up for the competitors and knows the problems from the competitor side.
If they could cover my salary now, I'd do it in a heartbeat. (And I wouldn't be afraid to look at different car classing for the cars in ProSolo, specifically... certain AWD cars.) You know... someone that understands the technical aspects of the program itself...[/Rant OFF]
--kC
The jerking around gets old. [i]Real[/i] old.
Karen[/QUOTE]
It doesn't personally effect me, so I put in a "PC" quote. If it did effect me, I would have put something very different... trust me. The SCCA doesn't understand that people have to make plans months out for these things and by changing something like this make it look more and more like a monkey show...
[Rant ON]And I'm willing to bet I know who made the decision to a "T". This person has been F&^%ing the ProSolo program up for the past few years.... one of the big reasons why my interests have wained in it recently.
Get someone in charge for the ProSolo program, someone WITH a backbone that sticks up for the competitors and knows the problems from the competitor side.
If they could cover my salary now, I'd do it in a heartbeat. (And I wouldn't be afraid to look at different car classing for the cars in ProSolo, specifically... certain AWD cars.) You know... someone that understands the technical aspects of the program itself...[/Rant OFF]
--kC
| thrdeye | 09-14-2006 09:32 AM |
<---Votes to replace pro-solo w/ Double X :banana: :disco:
| Imprezivblue | 09-14-2006 09:45 AM |
[QUOTE=thrdeye;15242264]<---Votes to replace pro-solo w/ Double X :banana: :disco:[/QUOTE]
In this case, I don't think the program is necessairly the problem. ;)
In this case, I don't think the program is necessairly the problem. ;)
| BlkWRXWag | 09-14-2006 03:19 PM |
Rain in the forecast for the ProFinale!
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USKS0572?from=search_10day[/url]
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USKS0572?from=search_10day[/url]
| CamaroFS34 | 09-14-2006 04:35 PM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;15247496]Rain in the forecast for the ProFinale!
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USKS0572?from=search_10day[/url][/QUOTE]
:huh: Umm.... if the ProSolo was [i]this[/i] weekend, I'd be more concerned about a forecast for rain. But how often are 10 day "outlooks" worth anything?
Karen
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USKS0572?from=search_10day[/url][/QUOTE]
:huh: Umm.... if the ProSolo was [i]this[/i] weekend, I'd be more concerned about a forecast for rain. But how often are 10 day "outlooks" worth anything?
Karen
| Scooby921 | 09-14-2006 04:35 PM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66;15218679]Well, I will just have to leave that in your capable hands, I guess. :D I'm sure Jason, Brad, and Angie will all help! :) And if Maria is able to attend, I'm QUITE sure she will help!! :D I seem to recall many comments directed Billy's way along the lines of "You'll drink with everyone else, but you won't drink with ME on my 21st birthday?!?!?" :lol:[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I won't be there until late Tuesday night. I suppose that does give me Wednesday and Thursday to feed him some drinks! The better bet is that I get wasted and tackle Jason again.
-Brad
Unfortunately I won't be there until late Tuesday night. I suppose that does give me Wednesday and Thursday to feed him some drinks! The better bet is that I get wasted and tackle Jason again.
-Brad
| 10th Warrior | 09-14-2006 04:47 PM |
[QUOTE=CamaroFS34;15248633]:huh: Umm.... if the ProSolo was [i]this[/i] weekend, I'd be more concerned about a forecast for rain. But how often are 10 day "outlooks" worth anything?
Karen[/QUOTE]
yer darn book learning has no place in the midwest, 'specially Kansas :mad: If a 'coon dog ain't able to learn it, it ain't worth knowin'.
Karen[/QUOTE]
yer darn book learning has no place in the midwest, 'specially Kansas :mad: If a 'coon dog ain't able to learn it, it ain't worth knowin'.
| AndrewSS | 09-14-2006 06:12 PM |
I am just curious, is there any talk about next years nationals being scheduled during a weekend and/or any earlier ???
Has nationals ever been in august?
Has nationals ever been in august?
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